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Started by ozbob, November 16, 2009, 19:14:34 PM

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Quote from: BrizCommuter on May 29, 2021, 15:11:39 PM
The Ferny Grove Line is not running on its normal scheduled clock face times this weekend. No mention of that unless you check the journey planner.

Noticed that with the trains meeting at Newmarket like the previous timetable had it. I also noticed that the 2-hourly 397 and 398 were scheduled to leave Ferny Grove sometimes 2 mins before an outbound train would arrive. Could they literally give less of a sh!t about commuters?
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Quote from: Cazza on May 29, 2021, 22:20:22 PM
Quote from: BrizCommuter on May 29, 2021, 15:11:39 PM
The Ferny Grove Line is not running on its normal scheduled clock face times this weekend. No mention of that unless you check the journey planner.

Noticed that with the trains meeting at Newmarket like the previous timetable had it. I also noticed that the 2-hourly 397 and 398 were scheduled to leave Ferny Grove sometimes 2 mins before an outbound train would arrive. Could they literally give less of a sh!t about commuters?
They clearly don't give a sh%t. Regular passengers would assume normal clock face times.

achiruel

Should the R591 be extended to Corinda? I think it would reduce the inconvenience for passengers who need to travel between the Beenleigh/Gold Coast and Ipswich/Springfield lines during track closure. By my estimate, it could save at around 1 hr (around 1:15 by R599+R591 rail bus vs 15 minutes the 104 takes off-peak.
Track closures are very inconvenient, so why not improve the situation a little?

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Apparently the majority/all 306/322 services inbound and outbound were delayed today due to overcrowding. A number were 15+ mins late leaving cultural centre. Standing loads with some services having 50+ Passengers onboard prior to Bowen Hills in both directions. Caused due to the track closure.

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BrizCommuter

So two weeks out from a week of closures on the inner-Beenleigh Line (and significantly less services via South Bank) and no timetable info at all on TransLink's website. p%ss poor Translink!

verbatim9

They do mention replan your journey though.

There are lots of buses to Southbank, Buranda and the PA bus stations from Roma Street.

BrizCommuter

Quote from: verbatim9 on August 16, 2021, 14:33:04 PM
They do mention replan your journey though.

There are lots of buses to Southbank, Buranda and the PA bus stations from Roma Street.
Can't replan my journey if I don't even know which Ferny Grove trains travel beyond Roma Street.

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https://twitter.com/TransLinkSEQ/status/1431129539673870336

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achiruel

Trackwork on the Gold Coast line this weekend. Is it just me, or is it pretty moronic to do trackwork on the GC line during holiday season? Yeah, I know there's buses, but they're horrifically slow (probably worse than most lines due to the high speeds south of Beenleigh).

Honestly, of all the lines you'd schedule trackwork for at this time of the year, GC should be bottom of the list!

(And yes, FWIW this has affected me personally, and led me to contribute to M1 traffic; I simply didn't have the time for the extra 53 minutes each way would take by rail-bus vs train, so I drove to Helensvale to get on the tram).

Incidentally, there's probably ~30% of people on the tram wearing masks).

SurfRail

I've always found GC railbuses to be as fast, or even faster, provided the services are set up right.  That's an indictment on the shambolic alignment through Logan and the southside of course.
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verbatim9

Quote from: achiruel on December 18, 2021, 13:04:25 PM
Trackwork on the Gold Coast line this weekend. Is it just me, or is it pretty moronic to do trackwork on the GC line during holiday season? Yeah, I know there's buses, but they're horrifically slow (probably worse than most lines due to the high speeds south of Beenleigh).

Honestly, of all the lines you'd schedule trackwork for at this time of the year, GC should be bottom of the list!

(And yes, FWIW this has affected me personally, and led me to contribute to M1 traffic; I simply didn't have the time for the extra 53 minutes each way would take by rail-bus vs train, so I drove to Helensvale to get on the tram).

Incidentally, there's probably ~30% of people on the tram wearing masks).
Quote from: SurfRail on December 18, 2021, 15:21:31 PM
I've always found GC railbuses to be as fast, or even faster, provided the services are set up right.  That's an indictment on the shambolic alignment through Logan and the southside of course.
The express buses from Southbank to Helensvale are faster than the train from what I have experienced and what Surfrail has stated.

achiruel

I guess it depends on where your trip originates. If it's from an inner-city station, than yes, it might well be quicker. If it's from an intermediate station on the Beenleigh line (as mine was) where there's no express buses, it gets awfully long.

Some examples:

Trinder Park - Helensvale railbus 1hr 37min, train 46min (+51 minutes)
Runcorn - Helensvale railbus 1hr 42min train 52min (+50 minutes)

Regardless, I still think that having trackwork on the line that attracts the most tourists in the network, on the weekend before Christmas, is not really well thought out, and it would be more sensible to work on some lines that don't attract so many tourists like Springfield or Ferny Grove etc.

HappyTrainGuy

Ideal time actually. Lower patronage (both passenger and freight). No school (primary, secondary, TAFE  or uni). Government public servant shut down. Staffing reductions at freight facilities due to public holidays. Manufacturing/warehouse sector quieting down for the Christmas-New Years period.

It might cause a few headaches for some passengers but in the overall scheme it's making maximum use of the closure especially when CRR works are triggering closures (mtce work has been shifted to align with CRR closure dates otherwise it's via Sherwood services). Some might not see it that way but that's the reality.

achiruel

Quote from: HappyTrainGuy on December 19, 2021, 23:26:18 PM
Ideal time actually. Lower patronage (both passenger and freight). No school (primary, secondary, TAFE  or uni). Government public servant shut down. Staffing reductions at freight facilities due to public holidays. Manufacturing/warehouse sector quieting down for the Christmas-New Years period.

Now this is utter garbage. Particularly the bit about manufacturing/warehouse sector quietening down, I know this for a fact as I work in that sector and it is flat out busy right up until 23rd December. There's also no public holidays until next weekend, so I'm not sure what relevance that has to the just-completed closure.

Lower patronage might apply during the week, but I've been travelling by train to the Gold Coast on weekends for a number of years, and December is consistently the busiest (except last year, perhaps, but we all know the reason behind that). Add to that, the recently reopened border with NSW/Vic and likely more travel by air (not everyone will be coming to OOL), and to help their experience on the way, get on a train, get off at Park Rd to be offloaded to a (non-DDA-compliant) bus, to complete their journey. Not a good look for tourism in Qld IMO.

HappyTrainGuy

That particular section I was referring to how most industries close down or have skeleton staff from 24 December - 4th January.

Air travel demand still isn't high and buses can cope.

Some might not like it but that's how it's always been and will always be. It's the quietest time for the railways (as I said patronage and network demand) which is why there's always a lot of major trackwork programs being run. After the crr works crews should be heading straight to the FG/Northgate shut down and then the Springfield shut down all of which has been in place for over 15 months. Freight operators are aware and have more trains running or have dedicated priority time slots when AR/FI is closed (which will apply to the next Gold Coast shutdown with no fright movements allowed).

ozbob

Just finished an interview with 7 News on the planned closures over the Christmas / New Year break.

Just an information piece essentially.

https://translink.com.au/updates/66966

&

https://crossriverrail.qld.gov.au/construction/travel-impacts/changes-to-train-services-this-christmas-and-new-years/

It is all well documented.  I took the opportunity to push for a rail network operation plan ...  :P
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Changes to train services this Easter: 15 – 18 April
> https://crossriverrail.qld.gov.au/construction/travel-impacts/upcoming-work-easter-long-weekend/

Changes to train services this Easter: 15 – 18 April
Cross River Rail will be undertaking major track works over the Easter long weekend and up to Sunday 24 April 2022. To allow works to be completed safely and efficiently, a 10-day track closure is required from 15 April to 24 April 2022 and will impact services on all lines across the network.

Works over the Easter long weekend will include track upgrades and enabling works in the Southern Area at Clapham Yard, Dutton Park, Yeronga and Fairfield stations, as well as works along the Dual Gauge line, and in the Northern Area at Mayne Yard and along the Shorncliffe line.

During this time trains will operate to special timetables. If you are planning to travel to and through Brisbane during this period, please plan ahead by using TransLink's journey planner to find out your best travel options.


Beenleigh line
Trains will terminate at Banoon.
Buses replace trains all stops between Banoon and Ferny Grove and Banoon and Northgate.

Gold Coast line
Trains will terminate at Banoon.
Buses replace trains all stops between Banoon and Ferny Grove Banoon and Northgate.
An express bus will operate between Banoon and Eagle Junction to connect with the Airport line.

Airport line
Airport services will operate between Domestic Airport and Northgate, stopping at Eagle Junction (express through Nundah and Toombul).

Cleveland line
Trains will terminate at Cannon Hill.
Buses replace trains between Cannon Hill, Northgate and Shorncliffe.

Ferny Grove line
No trains running on Ferny Grove line.
Buses replace trains between Ferny Grove and Banoon.

Shorncliffe line
No trains running on Shorncliffe line.
Buses replace trains between Shorncliffe, the inner city and Cannon Hill.

Doomben Line
Trains will operate on Saturday only between Eagle Junction and Doomben.
Buses replace trains Eagle Junction to Roma Street.
Trains will not run on Good Friday, Easter Sunday and Easter Monday due to public holiday and Sunday timetable (no rail replacement buses will operate).

Ipswich & Springfield lines
Trains will terminate at Roma Street.
Buses will replace trains from Roma Street to Northgate.

Sunshine Coast, Caboolture and Redcliffe Peninsula lines
Trains will terminate at Northgate.

Buses will replace trains from Northgate into the city and to Roma Street, Banoon and Cannon Hill.
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https://crossriverrail.qld.gov.au/construction/travel-impacts/changes-to-train-services-tuesday-19-sunday-24-april/

Changes to train services: Tuesday 19 – Sunday 24 April

Cross River Rail will be undertaking major track works over the Easter long weekend and up to Sunday 24 April 2022. To allow works to be completed safety and efficiently, a 10-day track closure is required from 15 April to 24 April 2022.

Works between Tuesday 19 and Sunday 24 April include lowering a section of track south of Dutton Park station in preparation to install cross overs later this year. Cross overs allow trains to move between tracks for flexibility in operating the network.

From 19 April to 24 April, services will be impacted on Beenleigh and Gold Coast lines. There will also be minor changes to Airport, Ferny Grove and Ipswich and Springfield lines during this time.

During the closure, trains will operate to special timetables. If you are planning to travel to and through Brisbane during this period, please plan ahead by using TransLink's journey planner to find out your best travel options.

Tuesday 19 to Friday 22 April

Beenleigh line: Trains will terminate at Yeerongpilly and buses replace trains between Yeerongpilly and Roma Street:

Morning and afternoon peaks: express Yeerongpilly to Roma Street.

All day: express Yeerongpilly to Park Road.

All day: StationLink Route 109, all stops between Moorooka and Park Road.

Gold Coast line: Trains will run express between Altandi and Roma Street via Tennyson loop. Trains will depart earlier than usual.

Airport line: Operating as normal to and from Roma Street

Ferny Grove line: trains terminate at South Bank or Roma Street.

Ipswich & Springfield lines: Trains will depart from a different platform between Sherwood and Milton.

Saturday 23 and Sunday 24 April

Beenleigh line: Trains will run express between Moorooka and Roma Street, via Tennyson loop. Buses replace trains between Moorooka and Roma Street and Park Road.

Gold Coast line: Trains will run express between Altandi and Roma Street via Tennyson loop. Outbound trains run 5 mins later from Altandi to Varsity Lakes.

Airport line: Trains depart Roma Street 8 mins later outbound to Domestic Airport.

Ferny Grove line: Trains run express from Roma Street to Moorooka, via Tennyson loop (for connection to the Beenleigh line).

Ipswich & Springfield lines: Trains will depart from a different platform between Sherwood and Milton.

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brissypete

I'm flying to Melbourne on Good Friday, Fairfield is my local station.  The journey planner has no update as yet neither for the Fairfield closure or the Easter shut-down.

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Easter 10-day track closures

https://translink.com.au/service-updates/Easter-10-day-track-closure

From the first service on Good Friday 15 April until the last service on Easter Monday 18 April, tracks will be closed on the Beenleigh, Gold Coast, Cleveland, Ferny Grove, Inner North and Shorncliffe lines.

Timetabled railbuses will replace trains between Roma Street, Banoon, Cannon Hill, Ferny Grove, Northgate and Shorncliffe stations.

From the first service on Tuesday 19 April until the last service on Friday 22 April, tracks will be closed on the Beenleigh and Gold Coast lines.

Timetabled railbuses will replace trains between Roma Street, Park Road and Yeerongpilly stations. Plan your journey to find your fastest travel option.

From the first service on Saturday 23 April until the last service on Sunday 24 April, tracks will be closed on the Beenleigh and Gold Coast lines.

Timetabled railbuses will replace trains between Roma Street, Park Road and Moorooka stations.
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https://translink.com.au/updates/137831

Real-time system outage - Queensland Rail services

Real-time information will be temporarily unavailable on Queensland Rail services from 7am to 5pm on Saturday 23 July and Sunday 24 July due to a planned maintenance.

Departure times may display as 'scheduled' on our app and website, and this will continue while technicians work.
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Queen's Birthday long weekend track closure 1-3 Oct 2022

https://translink.com.au/updates/150971

Start: First service Saturday 1 October
End: Last service Monday 3 October
Affected line: Airport, Beenleigh, Caboolture, Cleveland, Doomben, Gold Coast, Redcliffe Peninsula, Shorncliffe and Sunshine Coast
Next normal service: Beenleigh and Gold Coast/Airport lines will continue to be affected after this closure, from Tuesday 4 to Sunday 9 October. All other lines will resume normal service from Tuesday 4 October.

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Mid-week track closure - Beenleigh and Gold Coast lines 4-7 Oct 2022

https://translink.com.au/updates/153266

Start: First service Tuesday 4 October
End: Last service Friday 7 October
Affected lines: Beenleigh and Gold Coast/Airport
Next normal service: Beenleigh and Gold Coast/Airport lines will continue to be affected after this closure on Saturday 8 and Sunday 9 October. Normal services will resume from first train on Monday 10 October

====

Weekend track closure - Ferny Grove, Beenleigh and Gold Coast lines 8-9 Oct 2022

https://translink.com.au/updates/153316

Start: First service Saturday 8 October
End: Last service Sunday 9 October
Affected lines: Ferny Grove, Beenleigh and Gold Coast/Airport
Next normal service: Normal services will resume from first train on Monday 10 October
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Reminder October nine-day track closures

From Saturday 1 to Sunday 9 October, there will be a series of track closures that will affect all lines.

> https://translink.com.au/service-updates/October-nine-day-track-closure
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Quote from: Cazza on November 02, 2022, 10:18:32 AMSaturday is the 5th and Sunday is the 6th...

I have let them know ...  :hc

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