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Said it there too. DFO should have a rail station.  the fact it doesn't is stupid.

Keep Gold Glider (T20) to Hamilton Foreshores...lots of people.

Quote from: verbatim9 on May 19, 2022, 15:50:28 PM

Quote from: RowBro on May 19, 2022, 15:20:54 PM

Quote from: verbatim9 on May 19, 2022, 15:13:15 PMYeah Coles Kmart and Priceline would do well there, especially being able to set their own hours e.g. 6am-midnight 7 days inline with other states.

This also changes the dynamics of the Gold Glider, enhancing the need for it to turn around at Skygate instead of Hamilton North Shore.

Do we really want to encourage more car centric retail developments though? There is no residential around DFO so everyone has to either catch Public Transport (which is lacking to say the least) or drive. There is no walkup patronage.

Quote from: Jonno on May 19, 2022, 15:45:39 PM

Quote from: RowBro on May 19, 2022, 15:20:54 PM

Quote from: verbatim9 on May 19, 2022, 15:13:15 PMYeah Coles Kmart and Priceline would do well there, especially being able to set their own hours e.g. 6am-midnight 7 days inline with other states.

This also changes the dynamics of the Gold Glider, enhancing the need for it to turn around at Skygate instead of Hamilton North Shore.

Do we really want to encourage more car centric retail developments though? There is no residential around DFO so everyone has to either catch Public Transport (which is lacking to say the least) or drive. There is no walkup patronage.

Hear hear

I have provided solutions for both of your concerns in the Gold Glider thread and the 369 thread.

Providing and extra bus service or station does little to make it less car centric. The problem lies in the fact that it isnt close to any resdential buildings. You can't just walk there. You have to either drive or spend twice as long catching public transport. Sure providing better PT connections would help make it more accessible, but its still a remnant of a car centric past where we build around cars and roads and have commercial buildings nowhere near residential building.

Simply put, it shouldn't be a requirement for everyone to drive or catch public transport to get to a commercial outlet. It should be built around residents.

Quote from: Jonno on May 19, 2022, 15:54:40 PMSaid it there too. DFO should have a rail station.  the fact it doesn't is stupid.

Keep Gold Glider (T20) to Hamilton Foreshores...lots of people.

It might get one, after the rail line transfer to QR. I don't expect it before then, and few people would be willing to pay the premium if it did IMO.

https://twitter.com/NewsTalk4BC/status/1527420543800311808

It seems Mirvac is looking to develop the Toombul land to be mixed use with Retail, Offices, and Residential all in the same precinct. I think the pedestrian bridge over Sandgate road is a good idea. I'm curious as to where the bus interchange would go...

https://leonard.design/portfolio/toombul-brisbane/?fbclid=IwAR2s45BnPtT7_bU0Ek83ewjQQJvZChTSignoOLHAe1j2Le1EVsLEXCqJ-IY

Quote from: #Metro on May 19, 2022, 12:23:06 PM

QuoteI don't think many, if any, of the shops will relocate to DFO. DFO is mainly for industrial outlets.

DFO has already been about doubled in size. Plenty of development happening in the Airport precinct and I think it is the next logical place for stranded tenants to go.

It is also on Federal land, so a shopping centre on Airport land could theoretically open 24/7.

And yet none are. Only a handful of shops are open past 6pm and most/if not all are hospitality and only 1 store is open 24 hours being woolworths. Dfo shops open at 10am and close between 5-6pm. Skygate is similar with most shops being 9-5. No one wants to go bed shopping at 10pm. Skygate that had the most recent expansion does the bulk of its trade on the weekend and it too deals mostly with 9-5 trade. It's just another area with close access to its distribution/warehouse facilities at Pinkenba/trade coast.

It's not as popular as you make it out to be just because it's on federal land.

QuoteAnd yet none are. Only a handful of shops are open past 6pm and most/if not all are hospitality and only 1 store is open 24 hours being woolworths. Dfo shops open at 10am and close between 5-6pm. Skygate is similar with most shops being 9-5. No one wants to go bed shopping at 10pm. Skygate that had the most recent expansion does the bulk of its trade on the weekend and it too deals mostly with 9-5 trade. It's just another area with close access to its distribution/warehouse facilities at Pinkenba/trade coast.

It's not as popular as you make it out to be just because it's on federal land.

What's currently at Toombul? A closed shopping centre. Why should buses continue to run to that?

   Because that's the network interchange location.

Compare the residential populations of the 2 locations and it will become clearer.

Brisbanetimes---> Queensland budget: Govt to levy more than $1b from big business for mental health

QuoteTreasury estimates the levy would apply to about one per cent of all businesses in the state, scaling up to generate an annual $425 million by 2025-26. While Woolworths and Coles have recently reported rising sales figures, these have been partially offset by the tandem costs of inflation.

"I do not think one single person will be critical of large companies using 1 per cent [of their budgets] to actually help to help people who are going through the worst of the worst from a pandemic," Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk told reporters in the budget lockup press conference.

^^This will likely be past onto consumers in the way of grocery and liquor prices. It may also deter new investments into new supermarket builds as well.

^ So?

They aren't doing it tough.  Bugger them.

Deregulate trading hours so it is a quid pro quo proposition.

Courier Mail---> New Woolies, BWS opening at luxe Gabba tower, units for lease

QuoteA full-line Woolworths supermarket and BWS are opening this Saturday at a major new inner-south residential tower. Units are now up for lease, with tenants able to get their dry cleaning done, hire a bike or even catch views of The Gabba stadium.

I took some pics while it was being constructed. It's located in the basement level of the building. It's the South City development which includes a new Hyatt hotel. The Maroon Glider stops nearby.

^^They may likely have lettuce being a new store opening 🙂😅

The Qld Government has also completed their review into retail trading hours. They are going to legislate less powers for the QIRC, as well as ensuring that stores like Coles, Kmart and Woolies can't open past 10pn, except for the week before Christmas.

It goes against the grain of marketing Brisbane as a new world city as well as promoting and accommodating 24/7 lifestyles.

It will take another Government to implement another review to improve retail trading hours.

Courier Mail---> Garden City renamed Westfield Mt Gravatt to dismay of local community

QuoteGarden City shopping centre in Upper Mt Gravatt will now be known as Westfield Mt Gravatt, with the retail giant already renaming the centre's Facebook page and the name of the centre on their website.

I don't mind the name change. A bit of a shock though.

Quote from: verbatim9 on August 09, 2022, 18:43:16 PMCourier Mail---> Garden City renamed Westfield Mt Gravatt to dismay of local community

QuoteGarden City shopping centre in Upper Mt Gravatt will now be known as Westfield Mt Gravatt, with the retail giant already renaming the centre's Facebook page and the name of the centre on their website.

I don't mind the name change. A bit of a shock though.

Terrible decision. As a local, it will ALWAYS be Garden City. Or Garbo 😎.

Westfield is only doing it because they think people aren't giving them enough attention, because they're just calling it "Garden City" instead of "Westfield (insert suburb here)". Westfield can go suck it quite frankly.

In addition, if they wanted to make it after the location, they could have at least got the suburb right and called it Westfield UPPER Mount Gravatt

Well if there's any positive to come from it, hopefully the interchange and busway station will finally have the same name after all these years...

It's a shopping centre.  Care factor zero.

I've never heard the expression "Garbo" in 15 years of working or living here either.

QuoteTerrible decision. As a local, it will ALWAYS be Garden City. Or Garbo

'Garbo' or 'Gardo'?
Latter makes more slang sense...
The name change is quite significant....'garden city' has been around a while......but considering chermside/carindale westfields are named after their respective suburbs....mt gravatt or upper mt gravatt seems fair...

Garden City 1971...

100% Garbo with a "B". Every kid at the local schools around the centre know it as such and have done so for 20+ years.

Quote from: techblitz on August 10, 2022, 14:47:50 PM

QuoteTerrible decision. As a local, it will ALWAYS be Garden City. Or Garbo

'Garbo' or 'Gardo'?
Latter makes more slang sense...
The name change is quite significant....'garden city' has been around a while......but considering chermside/carindale westfields are named after their respective suburbs....mt gravatt or upper mt gravatt seems fair...

Garden City 1971...

Its longer nickname is Garbage City, hence "Garbo."

I also don't have an issue with calling it Westfield Upper Mount Gravatt, but without the Upper gets a big NOPE from me.

Why is it even called Garden City?

It has no gardens

Quote from: Gazza on August 10, 2022, 20:57:15 PMWhy is it even called Garden City?

It has no gardens

Rich soil in the area meant surroundings areas had beautiful gardens like The Oasis at Sunnybank:

https://www.museumofbrisbane.com.au/mob-sunday-stories-the-oasis/

It really should be Upper Mt Gravatt. Mt Gravatt is a totally different suburb focused around Mt Gravatt Central shopping district.

https://statements.qld.gov.au/statements/95990

New laws streamline and simplify Queensland retail trading hours
18th August 2022

Minister for Education, Minister for Industrial Relations and Minister for Racing
The Honourable Grace Grace

Queensland's retail trading hours have been further streamlined and simplified through new laws passed by Parliament today.

Industrial Relations Minister Grace Grace said the laws mean all recommendations made following an inquiry earlier this year will now be implemented.

"The Palaszczuk Government has always been committed to ensuring we strike the right balance between creating greater consumer choice, while providing protections for retail workers and certainty for retail businesses," Ms Grace said.

"Before our reforms in 2017, there were almost 100 different trading hours zones across the state, and a range of anomalies that were confusing for both businesses and customers.

"I am proud that we stepped up to change that, and that the 5-year review from the Education, Employment and Training Committee from earlier this year shows those reforms have operated effectively, supporting businesses, consumers, and workers.

"The Committee did make some recommendations to further streamline and simplify trading hours arrangements, including set hours and limiting the number of trading hour areas, and these laws implement those recommendations in full.

"I want to thank all the Queenslanders from across the state who got in touch to share their views, and the Committee for their extensive work in this important area."

The Trading (Allowable Hours) and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2022 also clarifies the role of the Queensland Industrial Relations Commission (QIRC) and enhances work protections for employees, so they freely choose whether to work extended trading hours.

More on trading hours is available here

ENDS

No real changes here though, except for public holiday trading in the regions that don't already have it.

Moratorium still stands until August 2023. After that any region can apply to open up until 10pm Monday to Sat and until 9pm Sundays and the trading public holidays.

Grace Grace did state the Government will consider extending the hours in the future and may allow trading on a couple of non-trading public holidays.

Mirvac has started community consultation on what the future of the Toombul site will look like. There is a survey you can complete by the 30th if you have some opinions you wish to share. I would encourage you to let them know how important integration with PT is and how bad of an environment the previous site was with the shopping centre surrounded by carparks on all sides. You can find the shortened statement from Mirvac below and the link to the survery here.

Quote from: Toombul Shopping CentreToombul sustained catastrophic damage during the flood event in February 2022. Given the extent of the damage and the increased risk of a further flood event, Mirvac made the difficult decision that it was not practicable to reinstate the Centre as is. We understand the hardship experienced by our retailers, and the challenging time this has been for the broader Toombul community.

We are now commencing early planning for the proposed renewal and potential redevelopment of this iconic site. Community engagement is a critical part of this process, and we are committed to seeking your feedback and keeping you informed about progress.

We are committed to a genuine engagement process. The outcomes of community consultation, along with planning outcomes and commercial considerations will inform decisions about the future of the Toombul site.

Brisbane CBD is well on its way to making a full COVID comeback, reaching pre-pandemic levels.

Queen Street Mall was today back in full swing, the streets packed full of shoppers getting their last-minute Christmas presents.

@Brig_OBrien #9News

9 News--->https://twitter.com/9NewsQueensland/status/1605126936283455491

Courier Mail ---> 2032
Brisbane needs 24-hour night-life scene in major reinvention

Quote2032
Brisbane needs 24-hour night-life scene in major reinvention
Brisbane must reinvent itself as a cosmopolitan city with a thriving night-life scene well ahead of the 2032 Games, business leaders say

Mr Schrinner said he would be backing 24-hour trade but he expected there would be "plenty of regulatory hurdles".

^^

Quote"Extending trading hours for licensed venues, like clubs, pubs and restaurants, as well as retailers must also be on the table.

In regards to suggestion of retail changes, I think they should deregulate the Brisbane, Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast retail zones as well as Cairns in the next few years. This will enable retailers to build their businesses around deregulation. By allowing deregulation we may see a lot more stores trading until 10pm as well as supermarkets open until midnight and  having 24 hour Kmart stores like in other states.

Allowing 24 hour trade just for the Olympics will not work as it has to be in place for years to create effective and vibrant mixed night life precincts.

A good start would be to change BCC and other SEQ council's City Plans to require commercial centres to be subdivided, with granular/multiple ownership, mixed-use, tradition downtown or high street, car-free and walkable/cycling-safe! If an operator wants to open then they don't need to ask anyone to allow it or turn on air conditioning, open doors, etc. You own or lease a shop then you control how and when it is open!

It's going to be embarrassing if international visitors come and everything is closed by 6 pm.

Brisbane Times---> Woolloongabba shopping centre to be bulldozed for $750m development

QuoteThe skyline on Brisbane's inner-southern fringe is set for further change, with the approval of a $750 million mixed-use development on the site of a Woolloongabba shopping centre.

Across busy Ipswich Road from the Princess Alexandra Hospital, Buranda Village is a dated shopping centre that remains popular with locals and visitors to the hospital.

Must be happy with that Jonno! Next generation shopping centres.

Quote from: #Metro on February 07, 2023, 21:21:38 PMMust be happy with that Jonno! Next generation shopping centres.

Way too much car parking, blank walks to 3 frontages and ugly Stroads on 2 side but I am hard to please

Quote from: Jonno on February 07, 2023, 22:22:45 PM

Quote from: #Metro on February 07, 2023, 21:21:38 PMMust be happy with that Jonno! Next generation shopping centres.

Way too much car parking, blank walks to 3 frontages and ugly Stroads on 2 side but I am hard to please

At least it's an improvement though.

Myer to leave Queen st mall site later this year...

Quote from: techblitz on March 16, 2023, 12:16:29 PMMyer to leave Queen st mall site later this year...

Time to remove the car park exit from Albert Street.  Actually get rid of the car parking al together.  Water tank anywone?

^^Brisbane Times---> Brisbane's Myer Centre to lose namesake tenant

QuoteDepartment store Myer will not renew its lease in Brisbane's Queen Street shopping centre that shares its name.

Myer will leave the site at the end of July, after declining an offer from the centre's owners to move into a smaller space.

The move paves the way for a long-overdue redevelopment of the centre, which promises to transform the retail experience in the Queen Street Mall.

The Myer Centre has dominated the mall since opening in 1988, offering multiple levels of retail outlets and major stores – the largest being Myer itself.