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Beerburrum to Nambour Rail Upgrade (Stage 1)

Timing
Early works construction has started. Construction of Stage 1 is scheduled for completion in 2025, weather and construction conditions permitting

The Beerburrum to Nambour Rail Upgrade will provide additional track capacity and reliability, creating travel time savings and increased passenger and freight services to the growing Sunshine Coast region.

Stage 1 will:

Deliver 3 new bridges.
Remove 3 level crossings.
Expand 3 park 'n' ride facilities.
Duplicate the section of rail track between Beerburrum and Beerwah.
Construct a new bus interchange on the eastern side of Landsborough Station.

Key features

Stage 1 includes (main contract works):

Duplication of the North Coast Line between Beerburrum and Glass House Mountains on an improved alignment.
Duplication of the North Coast Line between Glass House Mountains and Beerwah following the existing alignment.
Beerburrum Road and Steve Irwin Way intersection upgrade including a new road overpass on Beerburrum Road.
Expansion of the park 'n' ride facility on the northern side of Beerburrum Station.
Replacement of the Barrs Road level crossing in Glass House Mountains with a new road overpass connecting Barrs Road to Moffatt Road.
Closure of 2 private level crossings with alternative access provided.
Replacement of the Burgess Street road-over-rail bridge with a new road overpass.
Early works are currently underway which include:

Construction of a new park 'n' ride facility on the eastern side of Landsborough Station.
Construction of a new bus interchange at Landsborough.
Expansion of the park 'n' ride facility on the eastern side of Nambour Station.
Realignment of a 1km section of Steve Irwin Way between Nursery Road and Moffatt Road to accommodate the new rail corridor and track infrastructure.

View the concept designs for Beerburrum to Nambour Rail Upgrade (Stage 1)

Beerburrum to Nambour Rail Upgrade Project visualisation



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Current status as at 22 September 2022

Early works contract has been awarded to Hall Contracting and construction has started.

Two tenderers have been shortlisted for the design and construction contract for Stage 1 main works. This is expected to be awarded in late 2022. The timing for delivery and staging of construction works will be finalised following the detailed design phase.

We are continuing discussions with the Australian Government regarding funding for future stages to deliver the full scope under the business case.

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Quote from: ozbob on October 29, 2022, 08:06:12 AMRemove 3 level crossings.

Ironic that the Sunshine Coast will have more level crossings removed than Brisbane within the next 3 years 

https://twitter.com/railbotforum/status/1586137034904653824

It is interesting that TMR's official video refers to 'duplication to Landsborough' as forming part of Stage 1 when, in fact, duplication under Stage 1 will stop at Beerwah.

Quote from: Stillwater on October 29, 2022, 10:26:36 AMIt is interesting that TMR's official video refers to 'duplication to Landsborough' as forming part of Stage 1 when, in fact, duplication under Stage 1 will stop at Beerwah.

Yes, noted that.  It does refer to just Beerwah towards the end.

It sort of confirms that Landsborough was the proper plan.

Quote from: RowBro on October 29, 2022, 09:19:29 AM

Quote from: ozbob on October 29, 2022, 08:06:12 AMRemove 3 level crossings.

Ironic that the Sunshine Coast will have more level crossings removed than Brisbane within the next 3 years 

Indeed.  Although we can start to see some potential progress.

5 on the Kuraby - Beenleigh upgrade.

Coopers Plains

Cavendish Road Coorparoo

Beams Road Carseldine

11 potential in SEQ at this time.

Sent to all outlets:

Beerburrum to Nambour Rail Upgrade (Stage 1) - update

31st October 2022

We note that early works has started on the Beerburrum to Nambour Rail Upgrade (stage 1).

Welcome news of course, but well overdue.  This should have been completed in 2012, ten years ago!

* https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/projects/beerburrum-to-nambour-rail-upgrade-stage-1

* "Early works construction has started. Construction of Stage 1 is scheduled for completion in 2025, weather and construction conditions permitting.

The Beerburrum to Nambour Rail Upgrade will provide additional track capacity and reliability, creating travel time savings and increased passenger and freight services to the growing Sunshine Coast region.

Stage 1 will:
Deliver 3 new bridges.
Remove 3 level crossings.
Expand 3 park 'n' ride facilities.
Duplicate the section of rail track between Beerburrum and Beerwah.
Construct a new bus interchange on the eastern side of Landsborough Station.

Key features:
Stage 1 includes (main contract works):
Duplication of the North Coast Line between Beerburrum and Glass House Mountains on an improved alignment.
Duplication of the North Coast Line between Glass House Mountains and Beerwah following the existing alignment.
Beerburrum Road and Steve Irwin Way intersection upgrade including a new road overpass on Beerburrum Road.
Expansion of the park 'n' ride facility on the northern side of Beerburrum Station.
Replacement of the Barrs Road level crossing in Glass House Mountains with a new road overpass connecting Barrs Road to Moffatt Road.
Closure of 2 private level crossings with alternative access provided.
Replacement of the Burgess Street road-over-rail bridge with a new road overpass.
Early works are currently underway which include:
Construction of a new park 'n' ride facility on the eastern side of Landsborough Station.
Construction of a new bus interchange at Landsborough.
Expansion of the park 'n' ride facility on the eastern side of Nambour Station.
Realignment of a 1km section of Steve Irwin Way between Nursery Road and Moffatt Road to accommodate the new rail corridor and track infrastructure."

There is a major problem with this stage of the project.  The line needs to be duplicated through to Landsborough North.  It was always the intention to do this and it is only lately that it has been cut back to Beerwah.  The cost of continuing the duplication through to Landsborough North as part of the project would not be great, but the benefits profound.  It will be many years, if ever, heavy rail will be constructed from Beerwah to Maroochydore.  Landsborough is, and will remain, a key bus and rail interchange station.  Additionally, duplication through to Landsborough North will allow for much better train path management of freight and long distance passenger trains.  It would also allow for better services to be implemented to Landsborough, and then in turn for Nambour and Gympie.

Major rail projects in Queensland are often not optimal.  This is another example.  Cross River Rail, although worthwhile is also not optimal.  Not having the tunnel through to Yeerongpilly on the south side means a significant operational constraint to and from the southern portal.

Lets get these projects right from now. Duplicate the Sunshine Coast line from Beerburrum to Landsborough North as part of stage 1.
Queensland is often penny wise, pound foolish, sadly.  We all suffer in the end.

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Crikey, so sad.

Half baked, and 10 years late ...



QUEENSLANDER !!!

Quote from: ozbob on October 31, 2022, 07:51:22 AMCrikey, so sad.

Half baked, and 10 years late ...



QUEENSLANDER !!!

This is exactly where the Minister see rail.  He is all press release no substance unless it involves a road project.

Quote from: ozbob on October 31, 2022, 04:19:37 AMhttps://twitter.com/railbotforum/status/1586784773304774656

A litany of lies to the Sunshine Coast.

Queensland Parliament

https://documents.parliament.qld.gov.au/tableOffice/questionsAnswers/2022/992-2022.pdf

Question on Notice
No. 992
Asked on 12 October 2022
MS S BOLTON ASKED MINISTER FOR TRANSPORT AND MAIN ROADS (HON M BAILEY)

QUESTION:
With reference to the report in budget estimates of a commitment of $1.5m to undertake preinvestment planning for the North Coast Rail Line—
Will the Minister confirm (a) the objective, scope and timeline for this project and (b) that it includes
to Gympie North?

ANSWER:

I thank the Member for Noosa for the question.

The Australian and Queensland governments have committed $1.5 million to the Brisbane to
Sunshine Coast Rail Corridor Strategy (the strategy), to undertake pre-investment planning for
the North Coast Line between Brisbane and Gympie North, with consideration of a future line
direct to the Sunshine Coast.

The strategy will review demand for the North Coast Line and how this rail line will support strong
predicted growth in the regions of Gympie, Noosa, the Sunshine Coast, Moreton Bay and
Brisbane into the future.

The strategy will guide future non-infrastructure and infrastructure investment opportunities to
improve network capacity, travel times, safety, resilience and efficiency for passengers and freight
on the North Coast Line to 2051. It will also identify further detailed planning required to reflect
the whole of rail network considerations and priorities such as project staging, constructability,
and operational plans and timetables.

The strategy is currently underway and is expected to be completed in 2023. This strategy will
build on the recently released SEQ Rail Connect, the State's blueprint to guide future investment
for the South-East Queensland rail network.

Sunshine Valley Gazette 16th November 2022 page 20

https://www.sunshinevalleygazette.com.au/read-paper-online

Credit where it's due for Labor and LNP pollies
by Jeffrey Addison, Sunshine
Coast Commuter Advocate

QuoteOn April 14, 2011 I joined the LNP. For the record my membership lapsed in 2015.

My rationale was to bolster the case for rail in the political background, as that was where I saw the true blockage.

I had determined that if I had to use politics to counter the politics of the day, I would do so.

I met a bloke by the name of Ted O'Brien. He'd expressed interest in the information I'd gathered on the rail network, so I invited him to come to my place to explain the case for rail duplication to Nambour and why it was so important.

I clearly recall having laid out on our lounge room floor, all the newspaper reports and clippings, studies and Right to Information papers I had gathered, for the argument to pursue the 39km rail duplication to Nambour.

I had examined the freight case and the economic benefits it would bring to the state, from here up to Cairns.

The LNP state conference occurred from 15-18 July 2011. I was invited to attend and present a resolution to the conference to make rail duplication a priority. Ted had helped me to word the resolution and lodge a submission to the party.

I had prepared a speech to go with the presentation in case one was needed (I found it in my records) – but it wasn't required on the day. In 2011, Ted was Chairman of the LNP Futures Committee.

He would later go on to become the Federal member for Fairfax in 2016.

My resolution, number 27 on the list, was this: 'That this Convention of the LNP recommends that the next LNP State Government and/or the next Coalition Commonwealth Government adopts a policy to resume the rail duplication works for the North Coast Line (NCL) from Beerburrum to Nambour on the Sunshine Coast as a matter of high priority.' To my delight, it was passed unanimously by the 700 delegates in attendance.

By May 2018, Ted and Andrew Wallace MP had secured $390 million in funding (50%) for the $780 million, 17km rail duplication from Beerburrum to Landsborough. As I honoured Federal Minister Catherine King for keeping her word on the Maroochydore rail project, so I honour Ted O'Brien and Andrew Wallace, for their integrity in pursuing funding to get the rail project started in their very first term. For me personally, where lies in politics are commonplace, it's refreshing to see integrity.

In June 2018, it prompted the state government to announce their $160.8 million contribution to the project. Since then the project has been cut back (staged) due to the Queensland state government refusing to pay half the cost - while at the same time arguing for an 80% contribution from the Federal government.

That is where it still stagnates today.

The alternative: The state funds rail properly, as they proposed in 2009, to Landsborough and eventually Nambour - and puts an end to this ridiculous impasse that denies us an acceptable level of public transport.

The analysis probably has been done, but would appreciate a further explanation of the number of trains in versus the number of trains out of the CRR tunnel on the north-south axis post 2025. If the Queensland Government promises 'more trains running faster' to the Gold Coast they have to pop out the other end and run to Redcliffe, Caboolture, Nambour/Gympie and (potentially) Maroochydore -- but at what frequency for each destination?

Quote from: Stillwater on November 23, 2022, 19:54:16 PMThe analysis probably has been done, but would appreciate a further explanation of the number of trains in versus the number of trains out of the CRR tunnel on the north-south axis post 2025. If the Queensland Government promises 'more trains running faster' to the Gold Coast they have to pop out the other end and run to Redcliffe, Caboolture, Nambour/Gympie and (potentially) Maroochydore -- but at what frequency for each destination?

Well, they could terminate after Exhibition or Northgate or something.

I would refer you to the Minerva plan for some more detail on this also.

Right now the Gold Coast line peaks at 6tph in both AM and PM. You can think of these as being either a 4tph base with two infills or an 8tph base with two gaps. Consulting earlier plans reveals an ultimate ambition for 12tph but I think a reasonable goal for 2025 is to have a 'complete' 8tph in peak.

Similarly the Beenleigh line also hits 7tph in AM peak and 6tph in PM peak; both are structured as 4tph to/from Beenleigh plus short-workings.

On the northside, Caboolture/Nambour hits 9tph in AM peak and 8tph in PM peak (a 10tph base with one/two gaps. Redcliffe hits 9tph in AM peak and 6tph in PM peak though it's less of an even pattern.

So the max Southside combined (noting that the most intensive periods of service for lines may not overlap exactly) is 13tph; the max Northside combined is 18tph.

Cross River Rail is at a 24tph design max frequency (2.5 minute slots) so you could imagine 2025 AM services something like this:
4tph Nambour-Caboolture to Beenleigh on the hour
4tph Redcliffe to Gold Coast at 5 past
4tph Caboolture to Boggo Rd at 7.5 past
4tph Redcliffe to Boggo Rd at 12.5 past
(and each at 15 minute intervals thereafter; times at any common station).

That leaves 8tph spare on the "2.5 past" and "10 past" cycles. Reserve 4 tph for spare and 1-2 of those could go to each Northside line as Boggo Rd terminators, plus presumably the Gympielander needs a slot somewhere in peak.

Once CAMCOS is up and running, call it 4tph Nambour-Caboolture, 4tph CAMCOS-Caboolture and 2tph Caboolture-only.

Not quite sure what will happen with 9 car service but I imagine that will be a trigger point to swap pairings.

9 car services will be Sunshine Coast to Gold Coast and will be used instead of ramping up the outer frequency. Frequency will then be boosted on the inner core due to patronage demand/unable to run higher capacity services.

Any Nambour originating services from 2025 will possibly likely be all converted to Nambour-Beerwah terminators, thus to not take up CRR slots and to meet up with the regular 'Direct Sunshine Coast Line' services at Beerwah.

Whether Gympie North retains its 'direct' services via Northgate and terminates at Roma Street on its current route is another question entirely.  Though I do suspect there will be some (infrequent) Gympie North-Beerwah shuttles thrown in during daytime-offpeak and maybe weekends.

Off peak, absolutely it'd be shuttles. In peak, though, I suspect there'll be a transitional phase where CAMCOS is running but not yet running 9 car units and the Nambour services still continue to Brisbane. Depends on how busy the Gold Coast gets probably.

Ideally once CAMCOS is in (well after 2025 though!) I guess we'd see half-hourly off-peak 9-car CAMCOS-Caboolture express from Petrie, and timed connections at Beerwah to the Nambour shuttle. If the Gympielander only runs to Beerwah (as a Nambour extension) I think it could run at two-hourly frequency with two trains in service - it's about 1:45 from Gympie North to Beerwah.

This also means Caboolture-Petrie should be upgraded for 9 car service, by the way. With all the development up in Cab West, there'll be plenty of demand for the outer Cabo line at least in peak.

Very hard to say if that will happen. Too many different things can influence if that would happen. Caboolture-Petrie can be upgraded to 9 car services. The only issue is Narangba but that's more of a funding issue with the triple plans - depends how you want to go about track layouts with the current points north of the crossing. Bring the station closer to the level crossing and configure the points to the south or maintain the points and extend the platform on the northern end but on a slight curve. The second issue is the network configuration at the time ie keep it as 6 car length but enable a transfer option at Petrie which seems like what will happen if NWTC gets up and running. Revolving around that is also the stabling issue which requires additional infrastructure which comes back again to funding and infrastructure layout at the time.

So perhaps we should now be asking what the configuration of the Beerwah Station will look like after 2025, or in time for 2025 (very little time to plan and construct) in order to work with NCL shuttles to Nambour and further north, plus Direct Sunshine Coast Line services eventually.

To elaborate on Beerwah station design:

Beerwah station itself doesn't need reconfiguring until CAMCOS happens; any prior duplication of the NCL can just connect to the extant double-track.

Now, post-CAMCOS and with a Nambour shuttle it's presumably desirable to have three platforms.

This could be done by putting a track around the outside of either existing platform to make a side+island. Most of Beerwah town is to the west of the station so I'd favour the island being on the eastern side. The shuttle would presumably terminate at the middle platform with through trains on the outside.

(The presence or absence of grade separation is a separate concern to the station design, assuming two tracks at least as far as Landsborough.)

However, to truly facilitate cross-platform connection requires a different design with two islands but only a single track between them.

Diagram: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mto5j8550wldwqp/beerwah.pdf?dl=0

Quote from: Arnz on November 27, 2022, 12:20:27 PMAny Nambour originating services from 2025 will possibly likely be all converted to Nambour-Beerwah terminators, thus to not take up CRR slots and to meet up with the regular 'Direct Sunshine Coast Line' services at Beerwah.

Whether Gympie North retains its 'direct' services via Northgate and terminates at Roma Street on its current route is another question entirely.  Though I do suspect there will be some (infrequent) Gympie North-Beerwah shuttles thrown in during daytime-offpeak and maybe weekends.

Only QLD would implement a new rail line and make the existing line terminate as a shuttle.  NSW rail network and services leave us looking like a bunch of toddlers with their first trainset. Meanwhile the new freeway caters for every user and then some as a priority.  We make being mediocre an Olympic Sport.

Quote from: Jonno on November 28, 2022, 17:46:43 PM

Quote from: Arnz on November 27, 2022, 12:20:27 PMAny Nambour originating services from 2025 will possibly likely be all converted to Nambour-Beerwah terminators, thus to not take up CRR slots and to meet up with the regular 'Direct Sunshine Coast Line' services at Beerwah.

Whether Gympie North retains its 'direct' services via Northgate and terminates at Roma Street on its current route is another question entirely.  Though I do suspect there will be some (infrequent) Gympie North-Beerwah shuttles thrown in during daytime-offpeak and maybe weekends.

Only QLD would implement a new rail line and make the existing line terminate as a shuttle.  NSW rail network and services leave us looking like a bunch of toddlers with their first trainset. Meanwhile the new freeway caters for every user and then some as a priority.  We make being mediocre an Olympic Sport.

Depends on the case.  If the plan is to run the 'Direct Sunshine Coast Line' every 15 minutes all day (with better frequencies in peak) into the more populated coastal cities, it does make sense to terminate the lesser populated Hinterland Line at Beerwah to meet with the frequent service, plus there are still 'single line' issues north of Beerwah (Landsborough) where Freight will like be the priority over passenger services outside of Peak Times.

Gympie North trains in Peak Times will still likely run its own dedicated paths and probably run express Bowen Hills to Beerwah on the existing non-CRR route and stopping only at Eagle Junction, Petrie and Caboolture

Caboolture will likely lessen it's importance as a terminator station from 2025 onwards as most (if not all) current terminators will simply be extended to Beerwah (and Nambour before 2025).  When CAMCOS/Direct Sunshine Coast Line gets put in, the vast majority of trains will simply be extended to Caloundra/Birtinya (SCUH)/Maroochydore (depending on wherever the line initially terminates or they go the whole line in one go).

Quote from: Jonno on November 28, 2022, 17:46:43 PMOnly QLD would implement a new rail line and make the existing line terminate as a shuttle.  NSW rail network and services leave us looking like a bunch of toddlers with their first trainset. Meanwhile the new freeway caters for every user and then some as a priority.  We make being mediocre an Olympic Sport.

I have to break it to you but the Sunshine Coast line - as spavined as it is - still works better than the Southern Highlands line, the need to change trains at Kiama, and the lack of direct services between Maitland and stations Broadmeadow and south.

What is your solution for Beerwah when CAMCOS eventually gets built?  My view is that a shuttle is perfectly fine since the line north of Beerwah is effectively rural for the most part and most of the patronage will probably evaporate - a lot of it at present would be people going to or from the coastline and they would have no reason to be on trains north of Beerwah on the current route if they can get a train to Caloundra or Kawana or Maroochydore directly.  Train every 30 minutes from Beerwah to Cooroy would probably be overkill for what is left, since much of it is still pineapple plantations and national park.  There's no point in running these trains to Brisbane since they will create an uneven timetable when slotted around CAMCOS and Caboolture trains. 

If a shuttle is good enough for Changi Airport it's good enough for Eudlo.

It is interesting to note the considerable works underway at Landsborough (car park to the east of the station and new bus interchange) if the frequency of the trains through Landsborough will be on a shuttle timetable in future (also given that is likely to remain the Tilt Train Station for the Southern Sunshine Coast). The Direct Sunshine Coast Line will branch off NCL south of Landsborough, making Beerwah a frequent stop station.

Re Gympie thru services. All depends on the network configuration. At first there will be thru services for peak but once 9 car ops are up and running via Caloundra it would not surprise me in the very slightest to see only traveltrains and freight trains running any thru services south of beerwah.

It can go a couple ways. What I expect to see with 9 car trains in operation is no thru running or 6 car services operating on the ncl north of beerwah. Everything Gympie-Beerwah is run as a 3 car service. Nambour gets a frequency boost and every "x" service continues as a thru to Gympie service (think of it as something similar to the current Ipswich-Caboolture service where every odd one continues on to Nambour). The ETCS converted 60's would now find Gympie-Beerwah their home and would somewhat address the crewing issues north of Nambour with the 100's being withdrawn from operations. 9 car services would not be provided by NGRs. I expect to see the phase out of the 200/220 with the NGRs providing suburban services. The next rollingstock phase will be pumping out 6 car sets but I expect these will be the sets that would eventually become 9 car sets or manufactured as 9 car sets depending where they are in the manufacturing phase. NGR were configured for expansion but I more than expect this has now become a redundant option.

Until the network moves to 9 car ops due to turn around restrictions, platform restrictions and patronage I expect to see a couple 3 car IMU100/120's making their home at Gympie. I'd also expect to see the return of splitting services like we did on the Doomben line ie the morning Gympie service would run as a 6 car service to Beerwah and terminate. Runs back to Nambour and terminates. Splits into 2x 3 car services. 1 continues to Gympie while the other forms the next shuttle.

But as I said it all depends on the network setup at that particular time.

Quote from: SurfRail on November 29, 2022, 16:41:45 PM

Quote from: Jonno on November 28, 2022, 17:46:43 PMOnly QLD would implement a new rail line and make the existing line terminate as a shuttle.  NSW rail network and services leave us looking like a bunch of toddlers with their first trainset. Meanwhile the new freeway caters for every user and then some as a priority.  We make being mediocre an Olympic Sport.

I have to break it to you but the Sunshine Coast line - as spavined as it is - still works better than the Southern Highlands line, the need to change trains at Kiama, and the lack of direct services between Maitland and stations Broadmeadow and south.

What is your solution for Beerwah when CAMCOS eventually gets built?  My view is that a shuttle is perfectly fine since the line north of Beerwah is effectively rural for the most part and most of the patronage will probably evaporate - a lot of it at present would be people going to or from the coastline and they would have no reason to be on trains north of Beerwah on the current route if they can get a train to Caloundra or Kawana or Maroochydore directly.  Train every 30 minutes from Beerwah to Cooroy would probably be overkill for what is left, since much of it is still pineapple plantations and national park.  There's no point in running these trains to Brisbane since they will create an uneven timetable when slotted around CAMCOS and Caboolture trains. 

If a shuttle is good enough for Changi Airport it's good enough for Eudlo.

My solution starts with

1. Accepting that spending billions on more urban freeways/motorways is a waste of money

2. Developing a vision of the SEQ and regional/freight rail services that delivers significant mode share change.

3. Buy rollingstock and design/build network that enables that vision!

So no solution for what happens with trains north of Beerwah when the direct Sunshine Coast line is built then.

I thought I made a post on this yesterday but must have forgotten to submit.

When CAMCOS opens, I predict the following

-Patronage on the 615 will nosedive (if it even exists in its current form)

-Patronage at Landsborough will drop. Currently it gets patronage because it is geographically the closest station on a main road for Caloundra pax. If Caloundra and Aura have their own stations, many people lose the need to drive or bus to Landsborough.

-If Beerwah is the branching point, patronage there will increase and I think even some people on the southside of Landsborough will use Beerwah to make use of the better frequency.

Personally, I think heavy rail has little chance of being constructed from Beerwah to Maroochydore any time soon.

I am more concerned with getting the upgrade north of Beerburrum in place before 2032, with some regular shuttles Nambour <> Gympie North. 

It makes you wonder how people from the Sunshine Coast will access Travel Train (Tilt Train) services after the spur line to the Coast goes in. The Tilts stop at Landsborough rather than Beerwah and stop at Caboolture and Nambour either side. Someone from the Sunny Coast travelling on the Direct Sunshine Coast Line/CAMCOS from Maroochydore and/or Caloundra would be required to travel by train to Beerwah then catch a shuttle train one station to Landsborough, where they could catch the Tilt. Someone alighting at Landsborough for the Sunshine Coast probably would be looking for a bus to the coast rather than the prospect of getting on a shuttle train for one station (to Beerwah), then a connecting train to Caloundra/Kawana/Maroochydore.

If Beerwah is where motorists will travel to catch the train (in preference to Landsborough), would all the work under way now east of Landsborough Station (car park extension and bus interchange) be largely redundant? It's time QR/Translink let us in on their wisdom, including how shuttle terminators at Beerwah would work and coordinate with other rail services.

No, it will not be redundant. Deep down, the powers to be know that Maroochydore is not in the shunt.

Quote from: ozbob on November 30, 2022, 10:51:28 AMPersonally, I think heavy rail has little chance of being constructed from Beerwah to Maroochydore any time soon.

I am more concerned with getting the upgrade north of Beerburrum in place before 2032, with some regular shuttles Nambour <> Gympie North. 

 

^^ The Queensland Government outshines the Brothers Grimm when it comes to fairytales.

Personally while it'll be great for the Direct Sunshine Coast Line (formerly CAMCOS) to go the whole shebang in one go, the continual politics on the Sunshine Coast regardless if it's a LNP, Labor or Independent member (with the exception of LNP safe seats of Maroochydore and Kawana) means that the whole line being done before 2032 is decreasing rapidly to 'next to zero chance'

IMO, the line will be extended to Caloundra by 2032 courtesy of the Labor state member.  Both Caboolture and Nambour will lessen in importance as 'Terminus' stations except for Peak Periods, as the vast majority of existing Caboolture and Nambour services will simply be extended into Baringa (aka Aura) and Caloundra (a 2 station line).  Any Caboolture 'originators/terminators' mostly during Peak Hour after 2025 in a Caloundra spur will be considered as 'Short runners' for the Caloundra/Direct Sunshine Coast Line.

That assessment is pretty spot on - best hope to Caloundra only by 2032, given the political bunfight around Sunny Coast Rail. Perhaps three or four new stations -- Beerwah East, Aura, Pelican Waters?, Caloundra.

https://www.sunshinecoastnews.com.au/2021/05/24/beerwah-east-housing

Looks like Direct Sunshine Coast Line will swing west of Caboolture to serve Caboolture West housing development.

https://www.statedevelopment.qld.gov.au/planning/growth-areas/caboolture-west

Quote from: Stillwater on November 30, 2022, 11:14:41 AM^^ The Queensland Government outshines the Brothers Grimm when it comes to fairytales.

"The best predictor of future events is probably past events."

— Andre Agassi

Quote from: Stillwater on November 30, 2022, 12:06:27 PMLooks like Direct Sunshine Coast Line will swing west of Caboolture to serve Caboolture West housing development.
https://www.statedevelopment.qld.gov.au/planning/growth-areas/caboolture-west

No rail for Caboolture West (and it would only make it the Indirect Sunshine Coast Line anyway).
Look at the structure plan map. The plan hand-waves, at best, some bus lanes along Bellmere Rd.

https://www.statedevelopment.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0027/73980/Caboolture-West-interim-structure-plan-map.pdf

Stillwater wouldn't you move the tilt train stop to Beerwah then logically?

Or pax will have to bus Nambour as they do now.