Redcliffe Peninsula Line [was MBRL (Petrie to Kippa Ring)]

[ozbob]

Daylight saving discussion here please --> http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=11019.0

[HappyTrainGuy]

The bridge isn't the concern. It's the overpass and available space once safeworking clearances are factored in.

[red dragin]

The bridge isn't the concern. It's the overpass and available space once safeworking clearances are factored in.

The plans show some kind of works on both road overpasses - not sure exactly what though. It is certainly going to be squeezy through there.

I should have added that my comments re: the rail over river bridge are that the website implies that the second bridge would carry two lines (one now one in future) but the plans show a four track bridge which I am assuming will see the existing bridge removed.

Edit:
The new newsletter confirms a 4 track bridge, also state's track laying to begin next year.
http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/Projects/Featured%20projects/MBRL/Publications/mbrprojectupdate1114.pdf

[ozbob]

Minister for Transport and Main Roads
The Honourable Scott Emerson
Saturday, November 01, 2014

Hundreds take a ride along Moreton Bay Rail route

More than 650 Murrumba residents will enjoy a historic trip today when they travel the length of the $988 million Moreton Bay Rail Link by bus.

Transport Minister Scott Emerson and Member for Murrumba Reg Gulley inspected the route with residents to view the progress of the exciting project.

"This project is well on track to be delivered by 2016 as part of our strong plan to deliver better infrastructure for Queensland," Mr Emerson said.

"Since construction started 10 months ago the project has already reached significant milestones, with beams being installed on a number of bridges, including over the Bruce Highway/

"Platforms are starting to come out of the ground at Mango Hill station and the laying of the rail line is expected to start early next year."

Three buses carried members of the public from Kippa-Ring to Mango Hill from 8am to 5pm.

"This trip of a lifetime will give residents the chance to view this massive engineering achievement at first-hand and in safety," Mr Gulley said.

"The response to my invitation to view the project was so great that almost 1,000 excited residents responded. Unfortunately, we were only able to cater for 660.

"This train line was first mooted in 1894 and had been promised by so many governments that many people never thought they would see it built.

"I fought hard to have the line built and now everyone can see this project is finally happening."

The Moreton Bay Rail Link project will deliver 12.6km of dual track passenger rail line, between Petrie and Kippa-Ring, connecting to the existing North Coast line.

Mr Gulley said today's crowds were a great indicator of how many people would use the line when it opens in 2016.

The $988 million required for the project is being provided jointly by the Australian Government, Queensland Government and Moreton Bay Regional Council.

For more information on the Moreton Bay Rail project, visit www.moretonbayrail.qld.gov.au

[ozbob]

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Scott Emerson ‏@scottemerson

Great to join Murrumba MP Reg Gulley & 650 locals touring construction on the Moreton Bay Rail Link project #qldpol

[ozbob]

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7News Brisbane ‏@7NewsBrisbane

SOON: Residents get a sneak peek of progress on the Moreton Bay Rail Link #7NewsQ

[red dragin]

http://www.northlakes.com.au/news/item/2014/12/05/another-chance-to-travel-moreton-bay-rail-link-by-bus-january-2015

The first bus trip (not well advertised either) had 1000 people apply for 660 spots so they are running another.

The Goodfellows Rd bridge got it's beams last Friday night, I think that means the track bed is close to 100% connected end to end now.

Two massive crawler cranes have been assembled and sit in the corridor between Petrie and Dohles Rocks Rd, I imagine they are to lift the beams for the flyover north of Petrie station which looks like it will be ready prior to Christmas.

Track closure Christmas -> New Year to allow turnout installation and overhead works. 

[dancingmongoose]

Google maps now has the railway line in map view

[ozbob]

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Anthony Albanese ‏@AlboMP

With Qld Labor local candidates - Moreton Bay Rail Link - Supporting jobs and public transport #nationbuilding

[Stillwater]

Completion date 'late 2016'.  Is this when we could expect a revised timetable for northern lines, with (presumably) flow-on consequences for the network as a whole?

[ozbob]

Completion date 'late 2016'.  Is this when we could expect a revised timetable for northern lines, with (presumably) flow-on consequences for the network as a whole?

Yes, sector one will need to be redone.  I would expect that upgraded SCL services would be pencilled in, in the same way as Springfield services were pencilled in for the June 2011 sector one changes so that when construction to Landsborough complete seamless introduction as for Springfield.  Bring it on! 

[HappyTrainGuy]

I honestly expect to see Ipswich-Caboolture go into a limited express pattern with the same 2tph frequency while Kippa Ring-Springfield goes into a 4tph pattern. That way Landsborough services can simply be modified Caboolture services with the only timetable mods then coming from Caboolture-Landsborough/Nambour.

[BrizCommuter]

I honestly expect to see Ipswich-Caboolture go into a limited express pattern with the same 2tph frequency while Kippa Ring-Springfield goes into a 4tph pattern. That way Landsborough services can simply be modified Caboolture services with the only timetable mods then coming from Caboolture-Landsborough/Nambour.

Bet its only 4tph off-peak Darra to Petrie.

[Arnz]

Arnz would predict that the Landsborough - Ipswich trains to run express Petrie to Bowen Hills stopping at Northgate and Eagle Junction, then express from Milton to Darra stopping only at Indooroopilly.  Shorncliffe/Airport/Doomben would also pick up the slack in the inner-city stations during off-peak as rollingstock becomes available.

Taking into consideration the extra travel time by adding Elimbah to Landsborough, the added time is negated by the express patterns on both lines, saving 18 minutes. 

Taking into consideration the freights+traveltrains, express trains would use the middle road between Petrie and Northgate during the quieter off-peak periods, though scheduled traveltrains using the middle road may see certain express trains using the same track as the all-stoppers inbetween the 15 min headways.

A current Caboolture to Ipswich all stopper takes 124 mins (2 hours 4 minutes), including the 2 minute break at Central. 

A Landsborough to Ipswich with the above mentioned express patterns (26 mins Lands to Cab (on re-aligned track - expecting 3-4 min savings), 53 mins from Cab to Central, 2 min break, 50 mins from Central to Ips) takes 131 mins (2 hrs 11 minutes).  That would mean shorter turn-arounds, but still with some slack of 8-9 minutes at Ipswich and Landsborough (currently 11 mins at Ipswich and 12 mins at Caboolture)

Kippa Ring to Springfield Central all-stoppers at 4TPH should be picking up the slack at the skipped stations.

[mufreight]

I honestly expect to see Ipswich-Caboolture go into a limited express pattern with the same 2tph frequency while Kippa Ring-Springfield goes into a 4tph pattern. That way Landsborough services can simply be modified Caboolture services with the only timetable mods then coming from Caboolture-Landsborough/Nambour.

Regardless of what we or you may expect there is a greater need for 4tph off peak on the Ipswich line than there is on the Springfield line, a situation that may change with the extension of the Springfield line through the Ripley valley.

[HappyTrainGuy]

And what's more realistic of actually happening first? 

[darthcaligula666]

I honestly expect to see Ipswich-Caboolture go into a limited express pattern with the same 2tph frequency while Kippa Ring-Springfield goes into a 4tph pattern. That way Landsborough services can simply be modified Caboolture services with the only timetable mods then coming from Caboolture-Landsborough/Nambour.

Regardless of what we or you may expect there is a greater need for 4tph off peak on the Ipswich line than there is on the Springfield line, a situation that may change with the extension of the Springfield line through the Ripley valley.

what is needed on the ipswich line is for it to run express from darra to milton with the stop at indro during off peak as well as at peak times. most of us are happy to change at darra or indro if we need stations in between. may a time did i have to make the change at indro of a morning for an exam at uq and have to use toowong. it would be fantastic if this became a reality, with the ipswich and springfield running like the goldie and the beenie.

[mufreight]

Still needs 4tph on the Ipswich line off peak

[HappyTrainGuy]

And the Cleveland and Shorncliffe lines need duplication but I don't see that happening soon.

[Gazza]

Shorncliffe runs 4tph in both directions for a lot of the day now. Ditto for Cleveland.
In the immediate future you could expand this to weekday offpeak, and still retain paths for special trains on the weekends.

That said, I think the whole notion of allocating these special paths is a bit silly anyway. They should just do it at night.
Busier metro systems don't have the luxury of having random gaps in the middle of the day, so why do we need them in Qld?

[red dragin]

Murrumba Downs Station pedestrian bridge is being lifted into place tomorrow morning.

[SurfRail]

Shorncliffe runs 4tph in both directions for a lot of the day now. Ditto for Cleveland.
In the immediate future you could expand this to weekday offpeak, and still retain paths for special trains on the weekends.

That said, I think the whole notion of allocating these special paths is a bit silly anyway. They should just do it at night.
Busier metro systems don't have the luxury of having random gaps in the middle of the day, so why do we need them in Qld?

Cleveland I thought was compromised by Port trains using the electric tracks as a passing loop in the off-peak.  That should be able to be timetabled around (or if necessary they could just build a proper passing loop somewhere east of Murrarie).

Shorncliffe sees less intensive service than Sandringham which is also a single platform terminus, so I don't think there is too much of a reason to duplicate it if there are other priorities.

[red dragin]

Murrumba Downs Station pedestrian bridge is being lifted into place tomorrow morning.

Taken from Bray's road - had to zoom on phone so not as clear as I would like.

[ozbob]

Thanks ..   

[red dragin]

Post's for the overhead going up along the track bed where it crosses over Dohles Rocks Rd today. 

Pile of sleepers at the depot on Dohles Rocks Rd have been relocated too.

[petey3801]

Plenty of work also going on around Petrie with the new Up Main formation coming along well, the bridge across the river towards Lawnton is about 3/4 the way across, plus the new platforms 4&5 have started being built on the new formation as well, the whole project seems to be coming along nicely!

[red dragin]

Mango hill station over bridge was meant to be lifted into place last Tuesday too - haven't checked yet.

[Golliwog]

Mango hill station over bridge was meant to be lifted into place last Tuesday too - haven't checked yet.

Has been done, crane is now being assembled at Mango Hill East in preparation for their pedestrian overbridge going up.

[red dragin]

Thanks 

Seems a very well planned project. That crane appears to be doing each station on its way to Kippa Ring with little down time.

Kallangur station also appears to have the basics of its platforms in place.

[SurfRail]

Is there a layout plan somewhere for Petrie?

[red dragin]

http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/Projects/Featured%20projects/MBRL/Stations/Petriestationmbrl.pdf

[SurfRail]

Well at least they have learned something from Darra.  Cross platform interchange to swap between the express Caboolture and all-stations Moreton Bay service heading inbound, and likewise outbound, if they do it properly.

What's the plan for the existing side platform on the west side?  Refuge for freight/long-distance?  The stabling is going so this won't be a terminating location anymore.

[Golliwog]

Well at least they have learned something from Darra.  Cross platform interchange to swap between the express Caboolture and all-stations Moreton Bay service heading inbound, and likewise outbound, if they do it properly.

What's the plan for the existing side platform on the west side?  Refuge for freight/long-distance?  The stabling is going so this won't be a terminating location anymore.

Pretty sure they're leaving a 5th track as a siding south of Petrie (not sure how long it will be, you can see the turnout on the Petrie station map) though not sure if it's going to be electrified. Either way, expect it's main use will be mobilization storage of maintenance locos (same as how the 3rd track/siding at Mitchelton is used)

So yeah expect you're correct that it shouldn't see much regular passenger use bar short notice platform switches.

[red dragin]

Have been emailed the newsletters for the project this morning, track laying is due to begin in March 

[ozbob]

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Jeff Addison ‏@Jeffrey_Addison

#MBRL Moreton Bay Rail Link Lawnton to Petrie station rail works video

#MBRL Moreton Bay Rail Link
Lawnton to Petrie station rail works video pic.twitter.com/tNmNdpjSoI

— Jeff Addison (@Jeffrey_Addison) February 11, 2015

[red dragin]

Mango hill station over bridge was meant to be lifted into place last Tuesday too - haven't checked yet.

Has been done, crane is now being assembled at Mango Hill East in preparation for their pedestrian overbridge going up.

Rothwell station gets its over bridge this weekend (I'm signed up to all the newsletters) 

[red dragin]

The cantenery supports are starting to appear on the overhead stanchions near Dohles Rocks Rd overbridge.

Noticed a boom lift on the bridge next to the stanchions today as well.

[red dragin]

Only a few more cantenary supports have been installed.

Over head mast's now in place to the Bruce Highway, possibly further. Sound barriers in place in most locations where needed Petrie - Bruce Highway.

Several stacks of sleepers have appeared since this morning, on the track bed just south of the Dohles Rocks Rd Bridge.

A small mobile crane was removing the portable concrete road barriers that where in place on the bridge and a sweeper was cleaning the bridge deck lunchtime today - looks like track laying is about to begin. 

[ozbob]

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Transport Main Roads ‏@TMRQld now

Works on the project are progressing well. This is the future Murrumba Downs station taking shape.

[ozbob]

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Transport Main Roads ‏@TMRQld now

Crews have been working hard since 2014 to deliver this major project. For more info see http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/moretonbayrail