Transport Research Thread

[#Metro]

Comparison of Long Distance Regional PT Networks (Rail or Coach) in QLD vs VIC, NSW and WA.

NSW - Regional Trains and Coaches
https://transportnsw.info/regional-network-map


VIC - Regional train and coach map
https://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/PDFs/Maps/Network-maps/52a677a2a3/PTV_Regional-Train-Coach_Network_Map_2017.pdf


WA - System Map (TransWA)
https://www.transwa.wa.gov.au/plan-your-journey/transwa-system-map


QLD - ??
https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/public/transport/timetables/distance

[Jonno]

Regional Rail Services - QLD
Question on Notice  No. 1216  Asked on 13 October 2021  
URL: https://documents.parliament.qld.gov.au/tableoffice/questionsanswers/2021/1216-2021.pdf

MR J LISTER ASKED MINISTER FOR TRANSPORT AND MAIN ROADS (HON M BAILEY)

QUESTION:  Will the Minister provide the annual patronage and government subsidy per passenger trip for direct operating costs for each of the following Queensland Rail services (reported separately for each of the past three financial years (actuals) and the next three financial years (forecasts)) (a) Spirit of Queensland, (b) Spirit of the Outback, (c) Tilt Train, (d) Westlander and (e) Inlander?

now ask same question about roads Mr Lister!!

[SurfRail]

There is absolutely no reason the Westlander and the Inlander should be running anymore.  Complete and utter waste of money which a combination of existing subsidised and unsubsidised coaches and flights cover near completely.

[#Metro]

Investigating the multi-billion-dollar company controlling Australia's roads | Four Corners

Investigation of Transurban and toll road fines, plus the special legal provisions that apply to Transurban in certain jurisdictions.

Decades of deals between state governments and toll operators have left Australia's biggest cities with a network of private roads that are worsening the cost-of-living crisis for millions of motorists. 

In this episode of Four Corners, reporter Pat McGrath investigates the near-monopoly held by toll giant Transurban in Brisbane, Melbourne and Sydney. 

While taxpayers are racking up hundreds of thousands in debts and fines — facing prison if they fail to pay in Victoria — state governments are trying to claw back control of prices.  

Even senior figures in the industry are calling for change, raising the prospect of an end to the toll industry's roads of gold. 

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[Gazza]

There is absolutely no reason the Westlander and the Inlander should be running anymore.  Complete and utter waste of money which a combination of existing subsidised and unsubsidised coaches and flights cover near completely.

Yeah its crazy, $5000 subsidy per trip, there is no way you are spending $5000 in Charleville in tourism dollars.

[SilverChased]

Fly my family to the other side of the world and back.. or take me on a very long train journey in to the middle of nowhere. Lots of options with $5000

[SurfRail]

Did I mention sitting bolt upright in a chair for 16 hours with nothing more than a snack box?

Anybody who didn't travel on the Inlander or Westlander before 2013 missed out big time.  I was lucky to get them in, but you couldn't pay me to do either now.

[Gazza]

Hey can we have some research or papers about Realpolitik in this thread?

[OzGamer]

Did I mention sitting bolt upright in a chair for 16 hours with nothing more than a snack box?

Anybody who didn't travel on the Inlander or Westlander before 2013 missed out big time.  I was lucky to get them in, but you couldn't pay me to do either now.

Yeah - time to put them out of their misery.

I would like to see a battery/electric multiple unit service considered for running to Laidley, Gatton, and possibly Helidon. Taking passengers further west by rail no longer makes sense until a decent range crossing is built.

[Gazza]

I would like to see a battery/electric multiple unit service considered for running to Laidley, Gatton, and possibly Helidon. Taking passengers further west by rail no longer makes sense until a decent range crossing is built.

What about the range between Grandchester and Laidley?

[OzGamer]

I would like to see a battery/electric multiple unit service considered for running to Laidley, Gatton, and possibly Helidon. Taking passengers further west by rail no longer makes sense until a decent range crossing is built.

What about the range between Grandchester and Laidley?

Yes, that's a slow section also, but not as long as the main range crossing. The current Westlander timetable has 30 minutes from Rosewood to Laidley, and a modern EMU should be able to shave a bit off that. If you can get into the hour and a half range between Brisbane and the Lockyer Valley it's becoming viable.