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Quote from: Jonno on September 21, 2024, 17:15:22 PM

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Quote from: Jonno on September 21, 2024, 16:00:19 PMWoodridge has a similar opportunity to be rebuilt over Wembley Rd and integrate to an online bus station below.

Agreed. I also heard there's a 7,000 seat indoor sports centre being built nearby which would be better suited to that location as well.

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Quote from: RowBro on September 21, 2024, 17:21:51 PM

Quote from: Jonno on September 21, 2024, 17:15:22 PM

Quote from: ilovebrisvegas on September 21, 2024, 16:42:32 PM

Quote from: Jonno on September 21, 2024, 16:00:19 PMWoodridge has a similar opportunity to be rebuilt over Wembley Rd and integrate to an online bus station below.

Agreed. I also heard there's a 7,000 seat indoor sports centre being built nearby which would be better suited to that location as well.

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https://omny.fm/shows/4bc-breakfast/new-olympic-level-indoor-stadium-for-logan

Of course it sounds like the typical just plonk something somewhere without thinking about the transport side of things...

^ Maybe? That location is about as good as transport gets in Logan, at least if we assume LGCFR will allow more trains.

A lot of it will come down to pedestrian access. If there's proper pedestrian access (from Council, not forcing people to walk down Jacaranda) the current station is pretty well connected.

Quote from: ilovebrisvegas on September 21, 2024, 16:42:32 PMhttps://omny.fm/shows/4bc-breakfast/new-olympic-level-indoor-stadium-for-logan

Of course it sounds like the typical just plonk something somewhere without thinking about the transport side of things...

The land for the Logan Indoor Sports Centre has been donated by Logan City Council, which is likely what has resulted in the chosen location. It would replace the old Logan City PCYC (replaced by a brand new, larger facility at the corner of Kingston & Compton Roads, Slacks Creek) and an old Childcare Centre which I imagine will be moved to one of the two childcare locations indicated on the map.

Quote from: AnonymouslyBad on September 21, 2024, 19:08:53 PM^ Maybe? That location is about as good as transport gets in Logan, at least if we assume LGCFR will allow more trains.

A lot of it will come down to pedestrian access. If there's proper pedestrian access (from Council, not forcing people to walk down Jacaranda) the current station is pretty well connected.

The plan does indicate that there will be "Active Transit improvements" (whatever that may comprise of) along Railway Parade and Jacaranda Avenue, but they are also making improvements to Charles Avenue, which connects to the existing Wembley Road Shared Path, running between Woodridge State School and Logan Special School, directly down to a lights-controlled pedestrian intersection across Wembley Road. Looks like further improvements are planned through the Council precinct as well.

Be on the Way..or a 1 km walk away!!!      Retain big wide active transport underpass at current station and rebuild new station across Wembly Rd.

Government Statement

https://statements.qld.gov.au/statements/101566

First major contracts awarded kick-starting the Logan and Gold Coast Faster Rail project

30th September 2024

Minister for Transport and Main Roads and Minister for Digital Services
The Honourable Bart Mellish

The Logan and Gold Coast Faster Rail project has kicked off with two of three major contracts being awarded.

The $5.75 billion project, jointly funded by the Australian and Queensland governments, is crucial to increasing train services and catering for a booming population on the Beenleigh and Gold Coast lines. The project will:

. double the tracks from two to four between Kuraby and Beenleigh

. upgrade and rebuild train stations between Kuraby and Beenleigh

. remove five level crossings

The Martinus Degnan Joint Venture (Martinus Degnan) has won the contract to deliver the Loganlea Station Relocation project. This will see a brand-new Loganlea station built at a new location directly opposite Logan Hospital and close to Loganlea TAFE and Loganlea State High School.

The $173.76 million Loganlea Station Relocation project – jointly funded by the Australian and Queensland governments – will better connect customers with nearby health, education and community services.

The upgraded station has been designed to cater for more passengers, and will include improved access to the station with ramps, stairs and lifts from Valencia Street and Armstrong Road. There will also be new pedestrian and active transport connections to local facilities and across the rail line, and a secure storage cage for bicycle and scooter parking.

The Queensland Government is continuing to investigate options to improve connections to Loganlea station, including access to the station by bus, retaining some parking spaces from the existing park 'n' ride, and working with Logan City Council to identify other land opportunities for development.

Construction on the new Loganlea station is expected to start later this year, and open to services by mid-2027. The current Loganlea station will remain open until the new station is completed.

Bielby Hull Joint Venture (Bielby Hull) has been awarded the design and construction contract to deliver the Open Level Crossing Removal at Beenleigh Road, Kuraby.

This is the first of five level crossings that will be removed between Kuraby and Beenleigh as part of the wider Logan and Gold Coast Faster Rail project.

In late 2023, the Queensland Government sought public feedback on the initial design for the open level crossing removals.

The response showed there is clear support for level crossing removals, which will improve safety and ease traffic congestion. Access to key community facilities, accessible crossings, and local road connections was also a priority for the community.

As part of the tender process, the Queensland Government asked proponents to innovate and consider options to incorporate this feedback and deliver the best value for money.

The proposed solution at Kuraby will build on the previous refined design to provide a new road over rail bridge and improve local walkability and access across the rail corridor.

The Queensland Government will work with Bielby Hull over the next three to six months to further develop the design solution at Bethania, given the complexities at this location, including known flooding issues, ensuring local access and connections are maintained, and minimising impacts to important local community facilities.

The Queensland Government will consult with the community again on the updated designs for the open level crossing removals, in early 2025.

Quotes attributable to Federal Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government Minister Catherine King:

"The Australian Government is proud to be partnering with the Queensland Government to deliver this important upgrade for train users and the Logan community.

"The Logan and Gold Coast Faster Rail will double the capacity of the Gold Coast rail line and reduce waiting times at stations between Brisbane, Logan and the Gold Coast.

"This project will deliver long-lasting benefits for the City of Logan and this contract award is another step toward its completion."

Quotes attributable to Queensland Transport and Main Roads Minister Bart Mellish:

"Logan and Gold Coast Faster Rail is vital to increasing train services between Beenleigh and the Gold Coast. Without it, the network will struggle to cater for a fast-growing population and the capacity to move spectators during the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games.

"Awarding these two contracts means work can begin on this critical transport project.

"Level crossings impact every Queenslander, whether you're a passenger, pedestrian, cyclist, or driver.

"The five level crossings being removed as part of the entire project are some of the first being addressed under the South East Queensland (SEQ) Level Crossing Program 2024.

"The program is the Queensland Government's new coordinated approach to cost-effective solutions to our most problematic level crossings across the South East."

Quotes attributable to State Member for Waterford Shannon Fentiman:

"I will always fight to deliver better services for Logan.

"The newly-located Loganlea station and park 'n' ride will provide better connectivity to local facilities and ensure accessibility for everyone travelling around South East Queensland.

"With Logan Hospital undergoing its biggest expansion ever, the university and Loganlea TAFE right next door, Loganlea's new state-of-the-art train station is a huge boost for Logan's newest health and jobs precinct.

"The new fully accessible station at Loganlea means better services for everyone, and under Labor, locals will be able to travel anywhere using public transport for just 50 cents."

Quotes attributable to the Member for Stretton James Martin:

"Residents regularly raise this level crossing at Kuraby as a concern, it's an important development for my community that the design and construction tender for this road overpass has now been awarded."

"This level crossing removal is an important step to improve safety and congestion on our local road network, detailed design is underway and construction expected to start in early 2026."

"The Miles Government's Logan and Gold Coast Faster Rail is a pivotal project for transport in our region."

We already know that ETCS2 is incorporated into this project but they should go a step further and include outdoor platform screens doors at these stations or the provisions for these stations to be quickly retrofitted for automation. In the mean time / near term Driver Only Operations would be a step forward to ensure economical and efficient operations, hopefully by 2028.

Quote from: verbatim9 on November 10, 2024, 10:44:51 AMWe already know that ETCS2 is incorporated into this project but they should go a step further and include outdoor platform screens doors at these stations or the provisions for these stations to be quickly retrofitted for automation. In the mean time / near term Driver Only Operations would be a step forward to ensure economical and efficient operations, hopefully by 2028.

If you are going to quote yourself a million times you might actually want to be sure what ETCS2 moreso if it goes past Moorooka and the specifics as northern Bowen Hills-Caloundra ETCS2 won't be the same as the Bowen Hills-Varsity Lakes ETCS2 rollout. South section will be the GSM-R based which in railway terms is obsolete (remember we just switched off the 3G network here last month) while the NCL will get a more modern system FRMCS. To put it simple terms GSM-R is 2G while FRMCS is 5G) is actually part of this project??