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https://statements.qld.gov.au/statements/94482

Southern Sunshine Coast public transport expansion on track
16th February 2022

Minister for Transport and Main Roads
The Honourable Mark Bailey

Community feedback is sought on a new public transport strategy that will set the future direction for improved connectivity and accessibility across the Sunshine Coast.

Transport and Main Roads Minister Mark Bailey today released the draft Southern Sunshine Coast Public Transport Strategy that contains the vision for future public transport options in the region.

"The Sunshine Coast is Queensland's third biggest city and as the region's population continues to grow, so to does the need for an efficient and well connected public transport network," Mr Bailey said.

"The draft South East Queensland Regional Transport Plan and ShapingSEQ strategy both outlined the specific needs of the Southern Sunshine Coast community, which this strategy directly responds to.

"What we now have is a blueprint for short, medium and long-term transport developments in the region – whether that be bus corridors, heavy rail or multi-modal connections.

"Public transport will be developed around key corridors and connections to complement the southern Sunshine Coast's character as well as keep people moving to and through the area."

The majority of the Sunshine Coast's 320,000 residents live between Maroochydore and Beerwah, and an additional 190,000 are expected to call the region home over the next 20 years.

"It has never been more important to get transport planning right," Mr Bailey said.

He said the plan would simplify Sunshine Coast services by building up four key corridors:

Coastal: new mass transit service between Caloundra and Maroochydore providing a reliable and direct high-capacity public transport connection for shorter trips on the coast.

Centre: a link via the protected Caloundra and Maroochydore Corridor Options Study (CAMCOS) that provides for longer distance trips on the coast and to the rest of South East Queensland.

Western: upgraded infrastructure along the existing North Coast rail line.

Key connectors: new and upgraded east-west bus connections, more dedicated bus priority and high frequency routes and local services that spread the benefits of mass transit.

Mr Bailey said an important part in delivering the strategy successfully would be partnering with the Sunshine Coast Council.

"Ensuring that all levels of government are committed to a unified vision for public transport in the future is essential to delivering the best outcomes for locals," he said.

"As part of our partnership, the Palaszczuk Government have commenced a $15 million, jointly funded detailed business case for the first stage of Sunshine Coast Mass Transit.

"Work is also underway to investigate a heavy rail connection from Beerwah to Maroochydore as part of the CAMCOS corridor and design is underway for the $320 million Mooloolah River Interchange upgrade."

Sunshine Coast Council Mayor Mark Jamieson welcomed the State Government's new draft public transport strategy for the southern area of the Sunshine Coast and strongly encouraged all residents to have their say.

"Public transport connectivity is critical to the functionality and economic prosperity and liveability of our Sunshine Coast and south east Queensland, now and into the future, especially in providing for a viable alternative to private car travel," Mayor Jamieson said.

"I encourage everyone to provide feedback on the draft Southern Sunshine Coast Public Transport Strategy.

"Sunshine Coast Council's Integrated Transport Strategy also provides a blueprint for an integrated, safe, efficient and sustainable transport system.

"When it comes to transport, each level of government, working in partnership for our community, is also critical."

Member for Caloundra Jason Hunt said engaging with the community on the draft strategy would be essential.

"I know my community, and Sunshine Coast residents more broadly, are passionate about their area and the infrastructure they need to get from a to b using public transport.

"That's why we will be consulting with the community, and I encourage the community to jump online and have their say so we can better understand local needs.

"There's never been a more important time to be engaged and help shape the future of our city's public transport network.

"Things are moving, but this plan wraps it all together and shows how all elements will work together for the Coast, and support the 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games.

"It will take a mix of options: heavy rail, local mass transit, new stops stations, park 'n' rides, bus priority, better links to Brisbane and more efficient corridors.

"This includes more routes with peak services every 15 minutes or better.

"This plan shows at a high level how all the transport pieces fit together. Detailed business cases, transport modes, costs and timelines will be developed after informed community feedback."

For more information and to have your say on the plan, go to https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/southernsunshinecoastpt

For more information on the Queensland Government's South East Queensland Regional Transport Plan, ShapingSEQ and the Queensland Transport and Roads Investment Program (QTRIP) 2021-22 to 2024-25, visit https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/About-us/Corporate-information/Publications
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Draft Southern Sunshine Coast Public Transport Strategy

>> https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/projects/Draft-Southern-Sunshine-Coast-Public-Transport-Strategy

Note: We are inviting feedback on the draft Southern Sunshine Coast Public Transport Strategy. Provide your feedback by emailing SouthernSunshineCoastPT@tmr.qld.gov.au by 16 March 2022.
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Fares_Fair

It's a 9 page document so not too long for people to take in.
It's only a four week consultation period - but perhaps that is normal.
The Legend on p3 covers the NCL corridor - that's how non-important they deem it.  :steam:


THE CENTER CORRIDOR
Description
Consisting of the protected CAMCOS* public transport
corridor and adjacent parallel roads.
Function
Medium and longer distance trips connecting the economic
centres of the Sunshine Coast and providing a fast, reliable
and direct link to the western corridor at Beerwah.
Form
Dedicated corridor designed for higher speeds with wider
stop spacing.
Access
Predominately via feeder bus and park 'n' ride. The coastal
corridor will interchange customers at select stations.
Active transport will be encouraged at major residential and
activity centres.
Features
,, Higher capacity services
,, Higher frequency peak hour services
,, Higher speed (comparable to private vehicle)
,, Limited stops / stations
,, Park 'n' ride facilities at select stations
,, Interchange with the coastal and western corridors
Next steps
Staged implementation of public transport within the centre
corridor between Beerwah and Maroochydore.
Road management will focus on the Mooloolah River
Interchange (MRI) upgrade. The Mooloolah River crossing
proposed as part of the MRI will provide a direct connection
of the Sunshine Motorway to Kawana Way, completing a
critical missing link to the future Kawana Motorway. This will
enable the Coastal Corridor to better accommodate public
transport.

It says predominately via feeder bus and park' n' rides !!

THE WESTERN CORRIDOR
Description
The North Coast Rail Line.
Function
Inter-regional freight and passenger line,
connecting coastal Queensland between
Brisbane and Cairns.
Form
Dedicated corridor designed for long distance
travel and between existing widely spaced
towns.
Access
Predominately via the centre corridor and by
park 'n' ride facilities. Feeder buses will service
select stations. Active transport access will be
encouraged within railway towns and villages.
Features
,, Long distance services
,, Higher capacity services
,, Higher frequency peak hour services
,, Limited stops /stations
,, Higher speed (comparable to private vehicle)
,, Park 'n' ride facilities at all stations
Next steps
The Beerburrum to Nambour Rail Upgrade (B2N)
project covers about 40 kilometres of the North
Coast Rail Line and will provide additional track
capacity and reliability, creating travel time
savings and increased passenger and freight
services to the growing Sunshine Coast region.

No further improvements to the North Coast Line.

THE COASTAL CORRIDOR
Description
Nicklin Way, Brisbane Road, Aerodrome Road and
other coastal roads between Maroochydore and
Caloundra.
Function
Local travel with access to coastal tourism, health
and business precincts and to the centre corridor.
Form
On-road, designed to give priority to passenger
and active transport. Part of the urban landscape
providing a gateway to communities along the Coast.
Access
Predominately via active transport and feeder bus.
Park 'n' ride and transfer from the centre corridor at
some stations.
Features
,, High patronage (locals, tourists, commuters)
,, High capacity services
,, Stop spacing to balance speed and accessibility
,, Integrated with surroundings
,, Access into centre of health, tourism and business
precincts
,, High frequency all day, extended hours services
,, Walk up catchments
Next steps
Public transport will focus on incremental and staged
improvements to high capacity, reliable public
transport. This will commence with the detailed
business case for the first stage of a mass transit
solution.
Road management will focus on diverting medium
and longer distance trips onto the centre corridor
to better accommodate public transport, cycling,
walking and streetscaping.

AND PASSING THE TRANSPORT BUCK - IT'S ALL ABOUT ROADS AND BUSES
Emerging transport options
New and emerging transport technology and delivery
models, such as demand responsive transport, Mobility
as a Service, and ride-share services will enhance the
convenience of public transport by providing new and
innovative ways to access the network.

SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME I'M WRONG.  :'(
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Fares_Fair


Gazza

#6
QuoteIt says predominately via feeder bus and park' n' rides !!
Probably par for the course since thats the case on the GC, or in similar environments interstate such as the Joondalup Line in WA. Most of the Southern Sunshine Coast is outside walking distance of stations, and the stations will be a good distance apart to keep line speeds high.
But there might be some TOD at Kawana and Maroochydore.

QuoteHigher speed (comparable to private vehicle)
Yes! If they are going to build a new train line, it needs to be faster than driving.


QuoteRoad management will focus on diverting medium
and longer distance trips onto the centre corridor
to better accommodate public transport, cycling,
walking and streetscaping.
This is being done on the GC. (GC Highway for sustainable transport, M1 for general traffic)
Essentially trying to get traffic to use the Sunshine Motorway so that Nicklin Way/Aerodrome Rd/Brisbane Rd can be made less of a traffic sewer and more walkable/PT friendly.

Stillwater

It is supposed to be a forward-looking strategy, but the state government elements included in the documentation is what the Queensland Government is committed to already, including a spur railway line 'towards the east coast' (i.e Caloundra). Beyond that the 'partnership arrangement' with the SCC appears to be a case of 'over to the council for the rest'. It almost as though the strategy is set up to corner the SCC into asking for money from the feds under the SEQ City Deal to fund the non-state committed component.

Gazza

QuoteIt almost as though the strategy is set up to corner the SCC into asking for money from the feds under the SEQ City Deal to fund the non-state committed component.
You make it sound like a bad thing to get the Feds to fund some of this stuff?

#Metro

I'm confused. Why initiate a study like this covering just half a region? Why not just do the whole region?
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Stillwater

#10
lol. see references re Nautilus Study, subject of article in local newspaper. It covered the 'other half', but sunk without trace it seems.

Gazza, if Albo and Labor wins federally, Ted O'Brien is off the Olympics Committee and federal Labor unlikely to featherbed his LNP seat on the Sunshine Coast. My comment goes to the politics, which is so closely tied to any piece of transport infrastructure on the Sunshine Coast. The politics should not be part of the funding decisions, is my point. Projects such as these should be considered on their transport merits.

https://tedobrien.com.au/ted-obrien-joins-bocog-for-the-2032-games


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Brisbanetimes --> Train to Caloundra gathers steam in new Sunshine Coast transport plan $

QuotePlanning for new passenger rail from the North Coast line into Caloundra to help the Sunshine Coast handle an expected population boom will be held back until after the federal election.

With the Sunshine Coast facing the challenge to accommodate an extra 200,000 people over the next 20 years, heavy rail was "an important part of the equation", Queensland Transport Minister Mark Bailey said on Wednesday.

"Not just with the Olympic Games coming and the need to move people around, but its population growth well before that, which is driving the need for heavy rail," he said.

Mr Bailey released the Southern Sunshine Coast Public Transport Strategy on Wednesday, showing two public transport links running east-west between Caloundra to the North Coast rail line. ...
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Quote from: #Metro on February 16, 2022, 22:40:06 PM
I'm confused. Why initiate a study like this covering just half a region? Why not just do the whole region?

The Palaszczuk govt is about getting the Feds to pay for everything!   :steam:
SEQ, where our only "fast-track" is in becoming the rail embarrassment of Australia!   :frs:

#Metro

Isn't this just well timed election vote bait? Doesn't the train line get rolled out every election and then put away once over?
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Gazza

No it was never promised at the last election.

Stillwater

It would be 'insurance' if pressure was put on federal Labor to promise funding for this project. The way these things work these days, there is no such things as a 'federal commitment' -- it is a LNP or a Labor promise and the punters hope against hope that the party that makes the promise gets in at the election and hangs around long enough to get the promised infrastructure built.

Stillwater

There is very little chance that the federal seats of Fisher, Fairfax and Wide Bay – all held by the LNP – will change hands at the upcoming federal election, almost none. The picture is different in Longman (based on Caboolture), which is red hot contestable. It is held by Terry Young (LNP) after being represented by Labor's Susan Lamb during the previous term.

Dickson, the seat based around the Pine Rivers suburbs, is notionally marginal, but tends to track closely the statewide fortunes of the LNP, so Ali France is less likely to pick up that seat from Peter Dutton – but it could still change hands.

So, in the game of handing out a limited amount of federal money for big-ticket infrastructure projects likely to impress the voting public, the tactics are fascinating. Time is running out for signing of the SEQ City Deal – clever tactics on the part of State Labor. It has denied the feds the chance of announcing the elements of the deal during the election campaign and, by holding up finalisation, obviously hopes for a better outcome with Labor in power both within Queensland and federally.

As far as federal Labor handing out money for rail projects, it sees advantage by promising fast rail to the Hunter, where it needs to shore up Joel Fitzgibbon's seat (he is retiring). In Queensland, it would face pressure to back the rail spur to Caloundra in support of Jason Hunt (ALP, Caloundra) at the state level.

However, if federal Labor was eyeing off winning Longman and Dickson, it might be tempted to back the North-West Transport Corridor (Trouts Road alignment) to provide faster rail between Caloundra and Brisbane, plus bringing rail to a string of North-West Brisbane suburbs. It could argue that would bring faster travel times between Brisbane and the Sunshine Coast, further up the line, so the SC would benefit indirectly.

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Queensland Parliament

https://documents.parliament.qld.gov.au/tableOffice/questionsAnswers/2022/4-2022.pdf

Question on Notice
No. 4
Asked on 22 February 2022

MR D PURDIE ASKED MINISTER FOR TRANSPORT AND MAIN ROADS (HON M BAILEY)

QUESTION:

With reference to the draft Southern Sunshine Coast Public Transport Strategy—
Will the Minister advise what consideration is being given to the public transport needs of the
growing population areas north of the Maroochy River?

ANSWER:

I thank the Member for Ninderry for the question.

The Palaszczuk Government is committed to delivering a single integrated transport network
accessible to everyone. As a fast-growing and maturing urban area, the Sunshine Coast
community has growing demands and expectations for better public transport. The Department
of Transport and Main Roads (TMR) is seeking to deliver a more attractive public transport
network to support development, productivity, and liveability on the whole of the Sunshine Coast.
The draft Southern Sunshine Coast Public Transport Strategy (the draft Strategy), released for
community comment earlier this year, was an action of the Regional Transport Plans for South
East Queensland. The draft Strategy sets out a strategic vision for public transport in the area
between Beerwah and Maroochydore, as this section of the Sunshine Coast has the highest
travel demands and the most complex transport network, when compared to areas north of the
Maroochy River.

The draft Strategy aims to enable planners to develop viable public transport corridors in parts of
the Sunshine Coast experiencing congestion and forecast population growth.
The Palaszczuk Government is also committed to the needs of Sunshine Coast communities
north of the Maroochy River and in the hinterland. TMR works with the Sunshine Coast and Noosa
councils to monitor development and travel needs north of the Maroochy River and is currently
planning several bus route and infrastructure improvements to existing and new growth areas.
New routes, bus stop and station improvements will be announced as planning is completed and
are approved for delivery.

On 17 March 2022, the Palaszczuk Government was pleased to announce early works have
commenced on the Beerburrum to Nambour Rail Upgrade (Stage 1) which will improve public
transport connectivity from Nambour to the rest of South Eastern Queensland. Our government
will continue to invest in the transport needs of the Sunshine Coast. The Queensland Transport
and Roads Investment Program 2021–22 to 2024–25 represents a record investment of
$27.5 billion in our roads and transport infrastructure. This includes a $2.9 billion investment in
TMR's North Coast region, supporting 2640 direct jobs.
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https://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/Work-of-the-Assembly/Petitions/Petition-Details?id=3746

Queensland Parliament E-Petition

REVIEW OF DRAFT SOUTHERN SUNSHINE COAST PUBLIC TRANSPORT STRATEGY

TO: The Honourable the Speaker and Members of the Legislative Assembly of Queensland
Queensland Residents draws to the attention of the House: the failure of the current Draft Southern Sunshine Coast Public Transport Strategy to address a region wide solution for the public transport needs of the total Sunshine Coast including the Sunshine Coast Regional Council and Noosa Shire Council Local Government Areas. The Sunshine Coast Is (and is planned to remain) a community of communities that are decentralized but requiring connectivity. The current draft Strategy's focus on spinal (or linear) solutions for the Southern Coastal Section of the region fails to address the needs of those living in the Northern and Hinterland areas of the Sunshine Coast.

Your petitioners, therefore, request the House to: Amend and expand the current Draft Southern Sunshine Coast Public Transport Strategy to extend It to the whole of the Sunshine Coast region and to change the key priority from a spinal, mass transit solution along the Coastal Corridor in favour of a region wide, interconnected, flexible, zero-emissions and adaptable solution that will service not only those currently in the whole region but also those who will live across the whole region in the future.
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^

Hon Mark Bailey MP - Response from the Minister for Transport and Main Roads (Hon. Bailey), to an ePetition (3746-22) sponsored by the Clerk under provisions of Standing Order 119(4) from 398 petitioners, requesting the House to amend and expand the current Draft Southern Sunshine Coast Public Transport Strategy to the whole of the Sunshine Coast region

--> https://documents.parliament.qld.gov.au/tp/2022/5722T1294-2B0E.pdf

13 September 2022
Mr Neil Laurie
The Clerk of the Parliament
Parliament House
George Street
BRISBANE QLD 4000

Dear Mr Laurie

I refer to petition 3746-22, lodged with the Legislative Assembly on 16 August 2022 about the
draft Southern Sunshine Coast Public Transport Strategy.

The Department of Transport and Main Roads (TMR) takes an integrated approach to transport
planning which considers land use and transport in a wholistic manner. The South East
Queensland Regional Plan 2017 (ShapingSEQ) outlines the statutory regional framework for
growth and establishes planning objectives for sustainability, global competitiveness, and a high
quality of living. It highlights the importance of future transport links in supporting growth in the
region and across the State.
To align and integrate with ShapingSEQ, TMR's South East Queensland (SEQ) Regional
Transport Plans 2021 have been prepared as the transport planning response. These set out
priorities and actions for developing our transport system in a way that achieves regional goals
for the community, environment and economy. Regional transport plans now cover the entire
State and can be found on TMR's website online at www.tmr.qld.gov.au/About-us/Corporateinformation/Publications/Regional-Transport-Plans.

Within this planning context, TMR has delivered the draft Southern Sunshine Coast Public
Transport Strategy (the Strategy). The Strategy was published on TMR's website on
16 February 2022 for community and stakeholder feedback, which closed on 16 March 2022.
The Strategy focuses on the southern Sunshine Coast sub-region, noting this is where the
majority of current and expected additional 500,000 new residents and 85,000 jobs on the
Sunshine Coast will be located. The Strategy is anchored by three north-south spine routes that
have been referred to as 'rapid connections'. These are supported and linked by key
connectors, several of which run east-west. This network is then overlayed by other high
frequency and connector routes as well as more than 250 kilometres of local routes, providing a
connected network for the region. It is anticipated that investigation and strategy development
for the further areas of the Moreton and Sunshine Coast regions will be instigated over the next
decade, on a priority/needs basis.

While the population growth is predominantly expected in the southern Sunshine Coast
sub-region, TMR continues to monitor areas of growth across the entire Sunshine Coast region
to determine areas that require service improvements. It is currently planning bus route
improvements to growth areas in northern areas of the Sunshine Coast, which will be
announced as implementation plans are finalised.

The Palaszczuk Government is delivering its seventh record transport and roads infrastructure
program in a row, as detailed in the Queensland Transport and Roads Investment Program
2022–23 to 2025–26, which outlines $29.7 billion in investment over the next four years and is
estimated to support an average of 25,200 direct jobs over the life of the program. Of this,
$3.079 billion is committed across TMR's North Coast Region, estimated to support an average
of 2700 direct jobs over the life of the program. Investment in planning and delivery of heavy rail
is at record levels which includes delivery of Stage 1 of the Beerburrum to Nambour Upgrade
Project (Beerburrum to Landsborough) and planning for Stage 2 (Landsborough to Nambour).

The Australian and Queensland governments, along with Sunshine Coast Council, have also
committed $5 million each towards the $15 million development of a detailed business case for
an integrated urban public transport solution for the Sunshine Coast.

I trust this information is of assistance.

Yours sincerely
MARK BAILEY MP
Minister for Transport and Main Roads
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Response to the Review of Draft Southern Sunshine Coast Public Transport Strategy E-Petition presented to the Queensland Parliament

> https://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/apps/E-Petitions/Home/DownloadResponse/cbdb540e-1eb6-4c11-9b4c-d3712c942dc7

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"Investment in planning and delivery of heavy rail
is at record levels which includes delivery of Stage 1 of the Beerburrum to Nambour Upgrade
Project (Beerburrum to Landsborough) and planning for Stage 2 (Landsborough to Nambour)."


Minister Mark Bailey quote.

What a load of tripe.
I concur, a record low.

Stage 1 = $160 million
Stage 2 planning = $6.25 million (of which $5 million is federal money).

Money spent on the Gold Coast for bus and rail from 2011 to 2021 = $1.38 Billion.
Money spent on the Sunshine Coast for bus and rail from 2011 to 2021 = $160.7 Million.
Regards,
Fares_Fair


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Queensland Parliament

https://documents.parliament.qld.gov.au/tableOffice/questionsAnswers/2023/399-2023.pdf

Question on Notice
No. 399
Asked on 18 April 2023

MS F SIMPSON ASKED MINISTER FOR TRANSPORT AND MAIN ROADS (HON M BAILEY)

QUESTION:

Will the Minister advise when the Southern Sunshine Coast Public Transport Strategy (the draft
which was released in February 2022) will be finalised and released publicly?

ANSWER:

I thank the Member for Maroochydore for the question.

The Palaszczuk Government is delivering its seventh record transport and roads infrastructure
program in a row, as detailed in the Queensland Transport and Roads Investment Program
2022–23 to 2025–26, which outlines $29.7 billion in investment over the next four years and is
estimated to support an average of 25,200 direct jobs over the life of the program. Of this,
$3.079 billion is committed across the Department of Transport and Main Roads' North Coast
Region, estimated to support an average of 2700 direct jobs over the life of the program.

The Draft Southern Sunshine Coast Public Transport Strategy sets out a vision and direction for
how the state and local governments will deliver a public transport system to meet the future
needs of the southern Sunshine Coast, while protecting its natural environment and lifestyle. It
provides context for the business cases investigating the Direct Sunshine Coast Line,
consideration of options for high-frequency public transport along the coastal corridor, and
connecting services within the coast including the Sunshine Coast hinterland.

The Palaszczuk Government is pleased to work collaboratively with the Australian Government
and the Sunshine Coast Regional Council on options to reduce congestion within that community
and between the Sunshine Coast and the rest of South Eastern Queensland.

The release of a finalised Southern Sunshine Coast Public Transport strategy will occur in the
coming months.
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Page 14. The ' Centre Corridor '    :dntk 

If it is a railway call it a railway.  I think they might have ' other plans ' ....
Obfuscated double speak.

centrecorridor.jpg
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Never in the field of transport planning was so much done by the few for little consequences to the many.

(With apologies to Winston Churchill)

ozbob

Quote from: Stillwater on May 23, 2023, 12:25:16 PMNever in the field of transport planning was so much done by the few for little consequences to the many.

(With apologies to Winston Churchill)

I wonder who is actually putting these crap plans/strategies/waffles together. Consultants?  DTMR? 

The rot continues sadly ...  :fp:

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#31
I would assume that is called the centre corridor because the proposed light rail corridor would be east of it.
Oh wow, the link to the Airport has been reinstated. That's fantastic news - assuming the dashed line is rail.
Regards,
Fares_Fair


kram0

Oh look, more brochures and studies.....wake me up with the build starts.  :frs:

Fares_Fair

Quote from: kram0 on May 23, 2023, 14:40:06 PMOh look, more brochures and studies.....wake me up when the build starts.  :frs:
+1
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Stillwater

Sadly we will see more and more of taxpayer money used to churn out these things. They are thinly veiled pre-election material.  You know the sort of stuff ....... The Palaszczuk Government has big plans for Queensland's transport network .... we want to get more people moving faster by convenient public transport ... and reduce our Greenhouse gas emissions.... We have commissioned a study and we want you to get on board with your ideas .... blah blah blah.

Reviewing the same project/concept over and over again, sometimes for years on end, is not a sign of good governance. It is a sign of a government moribund with inaction.

Fares_Fair

#35
Quote from: Stillwater on May 23, 2023, 16:33:06 PMSadly we will see more and more of taxpayer money used to churn out these things. They are thinly veiled pre-election material.  You know the sort of stuff ....... The Palaszczuk Government has big plans for Queensland's transport network .... we want to get more people moving faster by convenient public transport ... and reduce our Greenhouse gas emissions.... We have commissioned a study and we want you to get on board with your ideas .... blah blah blah.

Reviewing the same project/concept over and over again, sometimes for years on end, is not a sign of good governance. It is a sign of a government moribund with inaction.

Indeed. +1

They are prepared to spend almost 10x more money on the Gold Coast, than here on our rail and bus networks.
We deserve an apology for such blatant anti-Sunshine Coast discrimination by this Premier.

She received my report detailing the studies and quotes for rail duplication to Landsborough and Nambour over 11 years ago (Tuesday 30 August 2011).
What has she done?
Ignored them all until 2018 when an announcement was made - and even that project work that was announced hasn't yet started - and has been cut-back since then.

The longer she delays it, the dearer it becomes.

Same goes for the Maroochydore line.
Another broken promise.
It was $1 billion in 2005.

Regards,
Fares_Fair


Stillwater

From the document:

"The strategy does not specify a preferred public transport mode (i.e. rail, bus or light rail) on corridors."

"The strategy will be used to inform more detailed planning and business case assessments."

And this whopper:

"It also proposes the delivery of high-frequency public transport connections on the southern Sunshine Coast by 2041." (page 7, para 5).

So, it is a strategy that is 'nothing specific' and there still will be more planning and not much will happen before 2041 now...

ozbob

We know from many years of observing the never-ending publication  of these strategies, visions, plans that they are not really going to be implemented.

They are just political staging points.

The ' feel good factor ', the Minister and perhaps Premier of the day can get up and
spruik the latest ' strategy '.  Frankly, I am worn out with the never-ending stream of bullsh%t.

SSCPTS  :tdown:



Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
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Quote from: Stillwater on May 24, 2023, 00:10:57 AMFrom the document:

"The strategy does not specify a preferred public transport mode (i.e. rail, bus or light rail) on corridors."

"The strategy will be used to inform more detailed planning and business case assessments."

And this whopper:

"It also proposes the delivery of high-frequency public transport connections on the southern Sunshine Coast by 2041." (page 7, para 5).

So, it is a strategy that is 'nothing specific' and there still will be more planning and not much will happen before 2041 now...


They just keep pushing back the delivery date by another decade every time they issue a new vision, strategy, summary, connection blah blah blah.

It is beyond pitiful, closer to literally pathetic and the government response to actually implement something with budgeted funding is apathetic.

We should do a study on all these 'studies' to determine if any one system or item proposed in them has ever been completed.
I'd estimate we could count them on one hand.

To even describe the document as vacuous gives it too much substance/credit IMHO.

We go further backwards with every glossy brochure.
I see green and blue is in for this year.
Regards,
Fares_Fair


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