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What would be suitable roads/locations for improved bus priority?

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QuoteBus lanes on major roads (Gympie Rd, Logan Rd, Ipswich Rd, Corro Drive) so that buses get places quickly.

Example:

Bus Priority Infrastructure Program (BPIP)

The NSW Government released its roadmap to deliver the state's future transport network, the Future Transport Strategy 2056, in 2018. The Bus Priority Infrastructure Program supports this vision by delivering infrastructure that make bus services faster and more reliable, such as bus lanes, bus priority at intersections or more efficient bus stop placement.

https://roads-waterways.transport.nsw.gov.au/projects/easing-sydneys-congestion/bus-priority-program.html

An old RBoT forum thread on bus priority > https://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=5443.0

Public Transport Infrastructure Manual (PTIM)

https://www.publications.qld.gov.au/dataset/public-transport-infrastructure-manual

Does make some references to bus priority.

QuoteThe public transport infrastructure manual (PTIM) applies best practice planning and design principles to public transport infrastructure. It defines the elements of good public transport facilities, helps with evaluating existing facilities and should be used as a design tool when developing new infrastructure within the TransLink network.

The Bus Lanes needs to go hand in hand with:

• Long-term End-State Vision - Rail, Metro, Light-Rail and BRT

Connecting SEQ 2031 - T, L, B & U - Full Colour
high resolution > https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52588686650_ede86baa6d_o.png

• Light Rail-like stations and spacing
• Signal-prioritisation

Step 1 - Publish and educate community on reason behind cross-region Trunk Routes and bus network review
Step 2 - Take existing kerbside lane/parking on all trunk routes and rationalize stop spacing/locations where possible without resumption.
Step 3 - Build bus lane where resumption required to enable dedicate bus-lane.
Step 4 - Convert Long-term BRT/Light Rail routes to median/centre running and build stations with signal prioritisation/separated bike lane
Step 5 - Build light rail as planned.

Implementing the long-term cross-region routes not possible without Bus Lanes.

Restating the OP:

What would be suitable roads/locations for improved bus priority?

I'm away at the moment but somewhere in Part B of the BB4BNE project has a list of potential locations listed in priority order. It is an optimistic, but also realistic list of what we genuinely see possible in the next few years.

^ thanks!

That's very comprehensive.  Are you happy if I post that list here?

Just some basics


Mains Road
Beaudesert Road
Logan Road through Upper Mount Gravatt at Mount Gravatt
Old Cleveland Road

Nerang-Broadbeach Rd
Southport-Nerang Rd
Gold Coast Hwy various stretches (especially Pine Ridge Rd to around The Grand Hotel as it can back up badly around Harbour Town)
Ferry Rd / Bundall Rd
Christine Ave
In and around Robina Town Centre
Between GC Airport and Tweed Heads (especially needed whenever there is any sort of festival or event near the border)
Much better priority access for buses into Broadbeach South coming from the west / Pacific Fair

Some of these could be partial or focused on priority at signals.

If they could put in a green link between Sanctuary Cove and Santa Barbara that would allow the 711 and 718 to share the same terminus at Sanctuary Cove.

Some intersections around the major shopping centre bus terminals in my neck of the woods - Morayfield, North Lakes, Kippa Ring and Strathpine - could benefit from bus priority signalling I think.

Had done some analysis of Corridor Widths using the TMR High Frequency Network

30m plus is good as enough space for Bus lane, Separated Bike lane, etc.
Less than 20m is much harder.  Ideally these corridors need to be widened to 27m min perferabbly 30m.

Corridors with Bus Lanes do not need to maintain 2 traffic lanes. This is the problem with TMR approach.  They require 40m plus so there is 2 lanes of traffic and bus lane then pedestrian/bike combination.

Bases on the analysis

No Brainers
Old Cleveland Road
Wynnum Rd
Coronation Drive - Mogill Road. Gets narrow between Taringa and Toowong
Ipswich/Main Rds
Logan Rd
Gympie Rd
Enoggera Rd
Sandgate Rd
Mains Rd/Plainland Rd/Beaudesert Rd

Next Set
Old Northern Rd
Kessels Rd
Creek Rd
Albany Creek Rd

Problematic
Waterworks Rd
Jubilee Tce/Route 20.
Most of the cross-city main roads.

The CBD would also likely need to have Transit only Corridors as they typically are only 20m corridors with no opportunity to widen.


Connecting SEQ 2031 - Corridor Fit
high resolution > https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52592328532_6d0716b551_o.png


Connecting SEQ 2031 - Inner City - Corridor Fit
high resolution > https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52592343292_3e15447cab_o.png

If it has a BUZ (or equivalent service level) then it can, at minimum, have peak hour/direction T2 lanes (assuming there's two lanes each way).

Waterworks Road is already at this T2 standard - and it works well enough IMHO. Anything other than a general traffic lane is probably enough.

Remember, slowing down cars is a regrettable necessity. What matters is that the bus is not heavily impacted by congestion. Peak hour transit lanes and targeted priority will usually be sufficient.

By the time we hit three BUZ-equivalents on combined corridor... that's OCR and Gympie Rd: busway tier. The inner part of Mains Rd now has a 24h T3 lane which is probably good enough there.

Interpolating for other corridors...

* Coronation Drive: both directions both peaks
* Gympie Rd: the Windsor-Lutwyche Missing Link and also from Chermside to Aspley (existing Transitway project fills in the rest to a higher standard than this)
* the Gold Glider route north of the city once it's in
* Mains Rd / Calam Rd as far as Compton Rd
* Carindale to Capalaba (assuming full busway or bus lanes to Carindale)

Coronation drive is at capacity. They will unlikely reintroduce T2 lanes along that stretch of road. The best solution is extend the Busway from UQ to Indooroopilly as this can provide an alternative route to the city, as well as speed up East-West trips.

Quote from: aldonius on December 29, 2022, 20:35:39 PMIf it has a BUZ (or equivalent service level) then it can, at minimum, have peak hour/direction T2 lanes (assuming there's two lanes each way).

Waterworks Road is already at this T2 standard - and it works well enough IMHO. Anything other than a general traffic lane is probably enough.

Remember, slowing down cars is a regrettable necessity. What matters is that the bus is not heavily impacted by congestion. Peak hour transit lanes and targeted priority will usually be sufficient.

By the time we hit three BUZ-equivalents on combined corridor... that's OCR and Gympie Rd: busway tier. The inner part of Mains Rd now has a 24h T3 lane which is probably good enough there.

Interpolating for other corridors...

* Coronation Drive: both directions both peaks
* Gympie Rd: the Windsor-Lutwyche Missing Link and also from Chermside to Aspley (existing Transitway project fills in the rest to a higher standard than this)
* the Gold Glider route north of the city once it's in
* Mains Rd / Calam Rd as far as Compton Rd
* Carindale to Capalaba (assuming full busway or bus lanes to Carindale)

The missing link between Windsor and Lutwyche can't come soon enough.

Yes, they at least need the busway from Carindale to the Sleeman centre as well as from Langlands Park to Coorparoo.

Quote from: verbatim9 on December 29, 2022, 20:58:11 PMCoronation drive is at capacity. They will unlikely reintroduce T2 lanes along that stretch of road. The best solution is extend the Busway from UQ to Indooroopilly as this can provide an alternative route to the city, as well as speed up East-West trips.

Every road is at capacity!! Choices need to be made!!

Quote from: ozbob on December 29, 2022, 13:28:39 PM^ thanks!

That's very comprehensive.  Are you happy if I post that list here?

Yeah no worries.

^ thanks Cazza.

Bus priority from BB4BNE courtesy Cazza:












   

   

^ PDF

https://documents.parliament.qld.gov.au/tableOffice/questionsAnswers/2023/274-2023.pdf

Question on Notice
No. 274
Asked on 28 March 2023

MR M BERKMAN ASKED MINISTER FOR TRANSPORT AND MAIN ROADS (HON M BAILEY)

QUESTION:

With reference to the timing for delivering the bus priority corridors in the SEQRTP 'SEQ Frequent
Public Transport Network 2041' on page 53 (the SEQRTP bus priority corridors) and the Creating
Better Connections for Queenslanders report which states, at page 29, that the SEQRTP bus
priority corridors 'will be implemented progressively over the next 10 years'—
Will the Minister advise (a) has the department commenced detailed planning to deliver the
proposed bus priority corridors on Sir Fred Schonell Dr, Moggill Rd (Kenmore to Indooroopilly),
Jubilee Tce Bardon, Latrobe Tce Paddington, Musgrave Rd Red Hill, Kelvin Grove Rd Kelvin
Grove, Lutwyche Rd (Federation St to Truro St), Kingsford Smith Drive, Montague Rd West End,
and Ipswich Rd (Woolloongabba to Moorooka) by 2031 and (b) has the government allocated
funding to support the planning and delivery of these bus priority works?

ANSWER:

I thank the Member for Maiwar for the question.

The SEQ Frequent Public Transport Network 2041 are indicative maps only outlining the intended
extent of the future network by 2041. These maps will provide Department of Transport and Main
Roads (TMR), local governments, and the wider South East Queensland (SEQ) community with
guidance on the likely shape and extent of the future network. The map identifies where bus
priority may be needed.

Creating Better Connections for Queenslanders is a 10-year plan for Queensland passenger
transport that was released on 16 August 2022. This plan for passenger transport revolves around
five key priorities and 20 signature initiatives to be delivered over the next 10 years.

TMR has also either commenced or scheduled future planning on the following road segments:

• Ipswich Road (Woolloongabba to Moorooka) and Lutwyche Road (Federation Street to
Truro Street), local road: detailed planning underway with completion proposed later this
year
• Moggill Road (Kenmore to Indooroopilly), local and state-controlled road: detailed planning
scheduled to commence from the 2023–24 financial year
• Montague Road West End, local road: the Queensland Government is funding Brisbane

City Council (BCC) to undertake a $1 million corridor study into options for Montague Road.
This planning is expected to be complete by June 2024.

For any local road segments, BCC's endorsement and cooperation are essential to the successful
delivery of any proposed improvements. TMR will continue to work collaboratively with BCC to
plan, prioritise and deliver bus priority outcomes on these roads.

TMR is also working to ensure planning and investment programs reflect the commitment to
progressively deliver bus priority corridors across SEQ and ensure that value for money
investment is delivered where it is needed most. Some bus priority corridor segments have
already been delivered, such as the Eastern Transitway on Old Cleveland Road. Others, such
as the Northern Transitway on Gympie Road, are under construction.

The SEQ public transport system will undergo significant transformation with the implementation
of the Palaszczuk Government's Cross River Rail project. TMR is working to ensure the benefits
of the Cross River Rail project are further leveraged through complementary investment in the
transport network throughout SEQ.

What a non-answer.  QLD Transport Planning is paved in plans, strategies and only freeway construction.  and it seems the plans are and strategies are indicative anyway.  No wonder this state is going backwards.