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Started by ozbob, January 10, 2011, 18:15:25 PM

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Richlands line interim train timetable

http://www.translink.com.au/resources/travel-information/services-and-timetables/timetables/110124_richlands.pdf
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An interim timetable has been released for the new Richlands train station, starting from Monday 24 January, 2011. The timetable includes some all-stations trains between Richlands and Bowen Hills stations, as well as shuttles between Richlands and Darra stations. Travel time between Richlands and Brisbane CBD stations is about 33 minutes.

Why interim?

A new timetable for Caboolture, Sunshine Coast, Ipswich, Rosewood and Richlands lines will start in the first half of 2011. This interim timetable provides customers with access to train services to and from Richlands as soon as the station is open, rather than waiting for the major timetable changes to be introduced.

Monday to Friday

Morning peak - inbound from Richlands station

Ten (10) trains will depart Richlands station during the morning peak. This includes three trains providing a one-seat, all-stations journey to Brisbane CBD stations, departing Richlands station at 6.31am, 7.25am and 8.10am.

In addition, shuttle services from Richlands station during morning peak will run approximately every 15 minutes connecting with inbound trains on the Ipswich/Rosewood line at Darra station. The first three trains that connect with inbound trains at Darra depart Richlands station at 5.40am, 6.10am and 6.40am.

Afternoon peak - outbound from Central station

Twelve (12) trains arrive at Richlands stations during the afternoon peak. This includes two trains providing a one-seat, all-stations journey from Brisbane CBD stations to Richlands, departing Central station at 4.42pm and 5.17pm.

In addition, shuttle services from Darra station during the afternoon peak will run approximately every 15 minutes after connecting with outbound Ipswich services at Darra station.

Outside peak hours

Richlands station will have train services every 30 minutes off-peak (except early Sunday morning).

Outside of peak times, existing Corinda trains will be extended to Richlands. This includes outbound trains arriving at Richlands between 8:45am and 1:51pm and inbound trains departing Richlands between 9:17am and 2:17pm.

Evening trains will operate every 30 minutes with a one-seat, all stations trains between Bowen Hills and Richlands stations. This includes outbound trains arriving at Richlands between 7:24pm and 11:24pm and inbound trains departing Richlands between 7:51pm and 10:51pm.

At other times, shuttle services between Richlands and Darra stations will run every 30 minutes.

Weekends

Weekend trains will operate every 30 minutes (except early Sunday morning) with a one-seat, all stops journey between Bowen Hills and Richlands stations.

Timetables will be available from train stations on the Ipswich/Rosewood line, at CBD train stations and on the TransLink website.

If you would like further information please phone TransLink on 13 12 30 anytime.

Bus Connections

Two new bus routes will connect with Richlands train station.

    * Route 465 (Heathwood to Richlands)
    * Route 466 (Willawong to Richlands)
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ozbob

I would assume that there is a non revenue movement to position for the first down service (5.40am), why cannot that be a live one in from Darra?

Complicates my travel on the morning of the 24th!   :P
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Some extra frequency for stations Darra < -- > CBD as well from the 24th.
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Gazza

Quote from: ozbob on January 10, 2011, 19:39:19 PM
Complicates my travel on the morning of the 24th!   :P
:bi and take the train back to Darra...It's only 4km.

ozbob

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but if it don't stop raining it might be ...

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#5
From the Brisbanetimes click here!

Minister backs station with no trains

QuoteMinister backs station with no trains
Daniel Hurst
January 11, 2011 - 5:48AM

Transport Minister Rachel Nolan has backed a decision to open southeast Queensland's newest railway station on a day when no trains are running.

brisbanetimes.com.au last week highlighted how visitors to the new Richlands railway station would not be able to catch a train at the official opening on January 23, due to a track maintenance clash.

The community open day will take place on the same weekend major upkeep is scheduled for the Ipswich Rosewood line, with services to be replaced by buses.

A resident who complained about the issue said he received a response from Queensland Rail on Friday suggesting either the maintenance or the opening date might be shifted.

"This issue [the scheduled track maintenance] was communicated to several key persons who requested the opening be on that date," said the email, quoted on an online forum hosted by commuter lobby group Rail Back on Track.

"Queensland Rail has made representations to the Minister's office requesting the date was to be reviewed [sic]. This review is still taking place and we hope to have a definitive answer very soon."

However, Ms Nolan yesterday confirmed the opening day would go ahead as planned on Sunday, January 23, with the first service from Richlands due to begin the next day at 5.40am.

"There is no review of the Richlands station opening date," she said.

"The station will be officially opened 23 January and I hope local residents and train enthusiasts can come along for a look.

"Finishing touches on the line won't interfere with the station opening.

"Similar to the openings of the Gateway Bridge and Clem7, people will be able to take their time, walk through the station and inspect this new state of the art facility in safety."

A state opposition spokesman last night questioned how the scheduling clash could have happened.

"Let's hope their organisation of the commuter services is a little bit better than their organisation of the opening, which clashes with track maintenance work," he said.

Rail Back on Track spokesman Robert Dow said he was delighted to hear services would soon commence, but was "frankly a bit disappointed" about the lack of trains at the open day.

"It would have been appropriate to have trains there, but due to circumstances beyond the control of everyone by the look of it it's not to be," he said.

Comment about the scheduling clash was sought yesterday from local State Labor Member for Inala Annastacia Palaszczuk, who was on leave.

"The local community is looking forward to the opening of Richlands train station," her spokesman said in a one-line written response.

Ms Nolan said the Richlands to Darra line was part of a vital new rail corridor that would service one of Brisbane's fastest growing regions and ultimately extend to Springfield by 2013.

"The new Richlands train station includes a bus interchange for up to four buses at a time, a park 'n' ride with 650 car parks, secure storage for 88 bicycles and 32 bike racks, 15 kiss 'n' ride bays and three taxi zones," she said.

Ms Nolan said an interim timetable would include 10 morning peak and 12 afternoon peak trains, with some all-stations trains between Richlands and the CBD, and some shuttle services between Richlands and Darra.

More details are available at www.translink.com.au or on 13 12 30.
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Media release 11 January 2011

SEQ: Richlands railway station opening, two important things missing

RAIL Back On Track (http://backontrack.org) a web based community support group for rail and public transport and an advocate for public transport commuters has welcomed the opening of the Richlands rail station on the 23rd of January 2011, with the regular rail services commencing on the 24th January 2011 (1).

"The opening of the Richlands railway station will mark the beginning of a rail extension to Springfield."

"Rail Back on Track has previously called for Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) feeder buses to Richlands station to make public transport a real option for residents of Forest Lake, Doodanella, Ellen Grove and Inala (2). High frequency buses to rail have been shown to be critically important in collecting patronage, such as in Perth (3) and also supports Transit Oriented Development (TOD) (4).  Without these, we believe patronage will be lower than it could be. The new bus routes to feed Richlands railway station from nearby suburbs are very welcome."

"It is disappointing that a track closure from Corinda to Rosewood coincides with the open day at Richlands railway station on the 23rd January 2011 and which means rail services will not be running for the opening. The arrangements for shuttle bus on the day will however allow access to the new station."

"The lack of a direct bus service from Springfield to Richlands railway station is of concern however.  A bus route replicating the Springfield railway line would allow a much more direct access for residents of the greater Springfield area into the rest of the public transport network at Richlands railway station, rather than bus via Goodna railway station."

"We have been close observers of the Darra to Richlands railway project for many years, and congratulate all at the construction team on a job very well done!"

References:

1. http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=5228.0

2. SEQ: Feed rail when Richlands opens!
http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=4805.0

3. Rockingham City Centre Transit System
http://www.pta.wa.gov.au/Projects/CompletedProjects/RockinghamCityCentreTransitSystem/tabid/81/Default.aspx

4. SEQ: Richlands rich in Transit Oriented Development potential
http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=4805.0

Contact:

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
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somebody

Interim timetable isn't as bad as feared.  I was worried about all day shuttles.  But why isn't it timed for a clockface 15 minute frequency?  And what is with the hour on a weekday from about 7pm to 8pm where the Ipswich line reverts to being half hourly heading inbound?

I can live with the trackwork on the opening.  It's not the biggest deal is it?

ozbob

From the South West News 12th January 2011 page 5

Station opens - but no trains

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Jonno

Given the last 2 days I wonder if both activities may be postponed now.

ozbob

Hope not, water will be dropping on Friday, get back to normal asap is the go!
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Golliwog

If anything, give this event a boost! The car park could make a good gathering area for some flood relief services?
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somebody

Wonder if we should just let the timetable slide.  Seems to be a few issues with it though:
1) Why are the new outbound services evenings and weekends two minutes later than they should be to have a 15 minute frequency?
2) Why is there the weird last two shuttles heading inbound on a weekday.  Seems that they must be to allow for other trains to position into Richlands, but surely this could be done in other ways to get a 15 minute frequency consistently?
3) Why are the inbound weekend trains 1 minute later than what would be required for a 15 minute frequency?
4) Why are the inbound weekday evening trains 1 minute slower Darra-Indro than the Ipswich trains, and the weekend trains are 2 minutes slower?

ozbob

Let it slide IMHO, too many things happening now.  We just have to hang on for the final timetable.

:-c
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mufreight

Quote from: somebody on January 12, 2011, 20:56:33 PM
Wonder if we should just let the timetable slide.  Seems to be a few issues with it though:
1) Why are the new outbound services evenings and weekends two minutes later than they should be to have a 15 minute frequency?
2) Why is there the weird last two shuttles heading inbound on a weekday.  Seems that they must be to allow for other trains to position into Richlands, but surely this could be done in other ways to get a 15 minute frequency consistently?
3) Why are the inbound weekend trains 1 minute later than what would be required for a 15 minute frequency?
4) Why are the inbound weekday evening trains 1 minute slower Darra-Indro than the Ipswich trains, and the weekend trains are 2 minutes slower?

At the present time all the kicking and screaming is an absolute waste of effort, time and effort that would be better expended formulating alternatives bearing in mind that to operate services on one line there has to be allowance made for how the trains are positioned as they are all continuations of services on other lines or continue through to provide services on other lines.
Preparing a timetable that looks all nice and neat frequently will not work when the train operating diagram is prepared due to the limitations of avaliable train paths, crewing requirements and the avaliability of equipment, (train sets) in the right place at the right time.
Perhaps if one feels that the standards of service are so woefull due to a lack of constructive planning then perhaps applying for a job creating operating timetables might add constructively to the debate.
The other consideration is the funding of services, someone has to fund them and by its track record Translink is not inclined to spend the funds that are avaliable on rail services.   :lo

somebody

Quote from: mufreight on January 13, 2011, 19:25:29 PM
Perhaps if one feels that the standards of service are so woefull due to a lack of constructive planning then perhaps applying for a job creating operating timetables might add constructively to the debate.
A possibility.  Would I get it?  I'd think that they only want yes men working for them.

mufreight

Quote from: somebody on January 13, 2011, 19:28:57 PM
Quote from: mufreight on January 13, 2011, 19:25:29 PM
Perhaps if one feels that the standards of service are so woefull due to a lack of constructive planning then perhaps applying for a job creating operating timetables might add constructively to the debate.
A possibility.  Would I get it?  I'd think that they only want yes men working for them.
You will never know if you do not try there are some at Translink who definately are not yes men and proof of that is that some parts of their system do work, the problem is the non performing incompetent yes men who otherwise could not retain their employment, unfortunately too many of these people have risen far above any level of their competence to the management of Translink.
Remove them and Translink might be able to perform the task that it was created to provide.

ozbob

#17
Monday the new interim timetable for Richlands --> http://www.translink.com.au/resources/travel-information/services-and-timetables/timetables/110124_richlands.pdf

The 'Thru'  services also represent a frequency boost  Darra <-> Roma St ...   :-c

The 7.10am service ex Richlands is express Darra (CT) to Roma St

The 7.55am service ex Richlands (CT Darra) is express Corinda to Indooroopilly to Milton

The 4.28pm service ex Central is express Milton to Darra

Some sunshine!   :D
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somebody

Slight correction (or perhaps clarification): None of those express trains are actually through services.  Also, some of the through services in peak were previously Darra or Corinda terminators/starters.  Still, an increase in frequency at Darra and Oxley is a good thing.

ozbob

Quote from: somebody on January 23, 2011, 08:53:52 AM
Slight correction (or perhaps clarification): None of those express trains are actually through services.  Also, some of the through services in peak were previously Darra or Corinda terminators/starters.  Still, an increase in frequency at Darra and Oxley is a good thing.

Yes thanks, I was a bit vague ....  LOL
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#20
Managed to squeeze in a quick trip to Richlands earlier this afternoon on 24th January 2011

Darra is a busy place these days, trains whizzing around everywhere, and when the range re-opens it will be busy!

--> http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=639.msg45923#msg45923
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#21
Impacts of frequency improvement at Oxley for example of this interim Richlands timetable

Inbound M-F

Ex Richlands

Oxley 5:56 6:26 6:38 6:54 7:07 exp 7:34 7:54 8:12 8:17 8:40 8:58 9:24 9:54 10:24 10:54 11:24 11:54 12:24 12:54 1:24 1:54 2:24 3:09 3:39 4:09 4:37 5:20 5:39 5:54 6:09 6:39 7:08 7:40 7:54 8:24 8:54 9:24 9:54 10:24 10:54

Ex Ipswich

Oxley 5:06 5:38 5:56 6:11 6:26 6:38 6:44 6:54 7:02 7:07 7:14 7:20 ---- exp 7:29 ---- 7:43 ---- 7:50 7:54 8:00 ---- ---- 8:12 8:16 ---- 8:28 . 8:40 8:58 9:09 ---- 9:39 ---- 10:09 ---- :39 ---- :09 ---- 2:39 ---- 3:09 3:24 3:39 ---- 4:01 4:09 4:24 4:37 4:53 5:20 5:26 5:39 5:54 6:09 ---- 6:39 . 7:08 7:40 8:10 :40 :10 10:43 11:10 11:40

============================

Outbound M-F

Ex Central for Richlands

Oxley 5:31 . 6:12 6:21 6:49 7:39 8:04 8:38 9:24 9:45 10:14 10:44 11:14 11:44 12:14 12:44 1:14 1:44 1:59 2:29 2:59 3:16 3:38 3:43 4:02 4:16 4:35 exp 5:08 . 5:20 5:42 5:53 6:07 6:13 6:32 6:44 7:17 7:47 8:17 8:48 9:17 9:47 10:17 10:47 11:17

Ex Central for Ipswich

Oxley 5:31 6:12 6:21 6:42 6:49 ---- 7:19 7:39 7:53 8:04 ---- 8:18 8:25 ---- 9:01 ---- 9:36 ---- 9:59 ---- :29 ---- :59 ---- 1:29 ---- 1:59 2:14 2:29 ---- 2:59 3:16 3:29 ---- 3:38 3:43 4:02 ---- 4:16 4:30 4:35 4:44 exp 5:01 5:08 5:14 5:20 5:29 5:33 exp 5:42 5:53 5:56 6:07 6:13 6:32 6:44 6:59 7:27 7:59 8:29 8:59 9:29 9:59 10:29  10:59 11:30 11:59 12:29 12:59 1:30


Red in the Richlands timetable line are additional services at Oxley

http://translink.com.au/resources/travel-information/services-and-timetables/timetables/101010_ipswich.pdf

http://www.translink.com.au/resources/travel-information/services-and-timetables/timetables/110124_richlands.pdf
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ozbob

There doesn't seem to have been any real attempt to highlight the frequency gains from last Monday Darra <--> CBD,  we should spread the good news!

:lo
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johnnigh

A curious signboard phenomenon on Sunday 30th: Richlands trains and stations from Milton, where I entrained, told me that the train was bound for Darra (and I believed them). On detraining at Corinda, the guard told me it was a Richlands train as he closed the doors (damn, I would have stayed on to Richlands and returned to Corinda to see what the fuss is all about). The electronic signboards at Corinda said 'Darra' for the next train after the Ipswich one, and the station staff said they were confused about why the Richlands sign wasn't showing.

ozbob

A number of train destos and PIDS don't appear to Richlands capable at this time.  It is not as though there hasn't been a long lead time.

I will check out Darra platform one later today hopefully, not sure if the PIDs are operational there yet either.

Unless pax are clearly told and indicated that the 'Darra' services are actually Richlands it is a mine of confusion.  Particularly as there are still some genuine 'Darra' services in the mix ...

Not a good look ..

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Just left Darra inbound on EMU70.  No live PIDs platform one, exit/entry western end still closed.  Stairs western end platform 4 still closed.


SMU237  with a flashing RICHLANDS desto just passed through UP Corinda.
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johnnigh

I wouldn't buy the 'not capable' line, Bob. Corinda had Richlands showing from day one and I suspect the train signs, being electronic even on the oldest sets, can do anything that is tapped into the keyboard or its equivalent by the Fat Controller. Perhaps a software glitch messed them up, as the problem uniformly affected all stations and all Richlands trains for that period, but that's the only story I'd give any cred to.

p858snake

Most of the older trains, you can't just "tap on a keyboard", most of them have a control unit you enter a predefined number that brings up stored text (the same as on the buses). You would need to open the control units up and connect them to a pc to update the definitions. Although the newer trains do apparently have computers built into them, i don't know if their external signage is connected into them.

colinw

The destination scrolls on the original EMUs did not have Rosewood, but did have Grandchester.  During the early days of the Rosewood electric service I saw a couple of Rosewood trains go out with Grandchester on the front.  More common was a hand written bit of cardboard with Ipswich - Rosewood propped up in the front of the cab.

The EMUs had a few funny or junk destinations on their scrolls.  Over the years I have seen:

- Kippa-Ring.  A bit ahead of its time.
- Grandchester.
- Rocklea - not used as a terminus since the 1950s AFAIK
- Sunnybank - ditto, the angle there was removed shortly postwar I believe.
- Pinkenba
- Whinstanes-Doomben ... the original name for the "new" Doomben station

There may well be others.

somebody

Quote from: colinw on February 01, 2011, 13:15:19 PM
- Sunnybank - ditto, the angle there was removed shortly postwar I believe.
Doesn't make sense to me why that would be done.  But I guess things were likely somewhat different in 1950.

colinw

#30
There's details in the ARHS Book "Destination South Brisbane".  I don't have it on hand so this is from memory ...

In the pre-war period, the vast majority of suburban services on the southside terminated at either Rocklea or Sunnybank.  One of the very early QR rail motors were the relatively unsuccessful McKeen cars - click here.  Weird looking things. For a period they worked Sunnybank services, and used to turn on the very steeply graded angle there.



Post war the suburban terminus became Kuraby, which had an angle up until a few years ago when the 3rd platform was built.  When the section Yeerongpilly to Kuraby was duplicated in the late '40s or early '50s the angle went.  This was supposed to be a precursor to electrification as far as either Kuraby or Kingston at 1500V DC, but that was cancelled.

You can get a hint of where the angle went from the odd shape of lot 21 on Dixon St, just beyond Sunnybank station.
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=-27.57946,153.056722&spn=0.002539,0.004275&z=18

mufreight

#31
Quote from: somebody on February 01, 2011, 15:05:23 PM
Quote from: colinw on February 01, 2011, 13:15:19 PM
- Sunnybank - ditto, the angle there was removed shortly postwar I believe.
Doesn't make sense to me why that would be done.  But I guess things were likely somewhat different in 1950.

Unlike the PB15 tender locos the D16 and D 17 steam tank locos like the diesel locos (1600 and 1620 class) that replaced them did not need to be turned so there was no longer any need to turn locos so the Y was no longer needed.

ozbob

Media release 6 February 2011

SEQ: Promote 15 minute frequency between Central and Darra stations on the Ipswich line!

RAIL Back On Track (http://backontrack.org) a web based community support group for rail and public transport and an advocate for public transport commuters has called for proper promotion of the recent frequency upgrades to the Ipswich line. Please, spread the good news: there is now a frequent alternative to constant traffic delays on Coronation Drive!

Robert Dow, Spokesman for RAIL Back On Track said:

"Since the opening of the Richlands line, RAIL Back on Track has seen very little promotion of the fact that train frequency between Central Station and Darra Station on the Ipswich line has now been upgraded to an extended 15 minute off peak frequency, including weekends. The upgrade of weekend frequency to a service every 15 minutes is a MAJOR upgrade on previous frequencies. Even if you turn up at 9pm on Sunday, there are trains every 15 minutes departing Central."

"RAIL Back on Track members are puzzled as to why there is no mention or promotion of this on the front page of the TransLink website, or indeed anywhere! All we have seen is the stolid timetables, and the new 'interim' Richlands timetable, which is printed separately to the Ipswich line timetable which makes it difficult for people to realise there is a frequency improvement (1)."

"When the Bus Upgrade Zones (BUZ) were introduced, special marketing, branding and promotions were rolled out including stop signage, large promotional posters featuring a pizza delivery person catching the BUZ (due to high frequency), advertisements in newspapers, competitions and a high frequency BUZ map which distinguished BUZ from other generic bus routes (this BUZ map appears on the TransLink website)."

"Just like the BUZ services, passengers need to be able to distinguish instantly stations and stops with high frequency services from stations and stops with non-high frequency services."

"On buses it's called BUZ and everyone in Brisbane knows that means buses every 15 minutes 6am - 11.30pm, 7 days. Unfortunately, no such marketing, promotion or branding of high frequency rail services has yet been developed for trains and we feel that this would be a great missed opportunity if this situation were left to continue. The Ipswich Line draft timetable's 4 minute am peak hour frequency at Indooroopilly, for example, is an almost metro-like frequency."

"So why isn't it promoted as such, particularly when huge numbers of people in buses and other vehicles get stuck on Coronation Drive for up to an hour at times?"

"We applaud Queensland Rail and TransLink for the 15 minute weekday and weekend services. Although some gaps could be filled on the weekend mornings, particularly Sunday morning, we only wish Queensland Rail and TransLink take all the credit they deserve and promote this frequency upgrade so that passengers can flock to them!"

"We hope 15 minute frequency can be extended all the way to Ipswich, and that stations which see frequent rail services on the network are distinguishable from the stations which see the generic, non-frequent services."

"Tell the whole community and spread the word!"

Reference:

1. http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=5228.0

Contact:

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
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#Metro

Not far from a metro service now!
If just two extra services per hour were extended to Ipswich, we would have an instant metro!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Metro

The frequency at Indooroopilly is 4 minutes, equal to the service the montreal metro gives during peak hour (2-6 minutes) and the off peak frequency on the Montreal metro is 5-12 minutes!!

This is very exciting!  :-t :-w
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Stillwater


Rather than have a poster of a pizza delivery person catching a BUZ or a Darra train to illustrate frequency and efficiency, why not print the Ipswich/Springfield timetable on the pizza box?  I am sure one of the pizza companies would jump at means of gaining a bit of advertising revenue, and I believe a creative marketing person or graphics artist would come up with some interesting concepts.  Make the timetable panel perforated, so it could be punched out and kept in a drawer, or stuck to the fridge.  Graphics concept could involve a picture of a sleek QR train with various varieties of pizza forming the weels.  There's got to be better ideas, I know.  The benefits of rail have to be marketed to a wider audience.  Posters in train stations preach to the converted, but pizza eaters could be an untapped demographic.

Stillwater

Buy 20 pizzas, get a go-card charged with $10.

#Metro

#36
I like Golliwog's idea, there is a nice big billboard at Toowong Village on the corner of Coronation Drive.

Brisbane Metro: More trains, more frequently
Every 15 minutes or better, all day & weekend

visit translink.com.au/metro for more details


Surely much better than the "more spots" and "new seats popping up near you" TransLink giant billboard campaigns of late (Rubbish- no extra seats popped up near me!!!)
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somebody

A problem with such promotions is that they are open to false advertising claims with current gaps still in place: 17:03-17:30 I/B from Indooroopilly, 7-8pm half hourly frequency I/B, a bit before 10pm finish of Richlands O/B on weekends.

But they've never worried about such things before.

HappyTrainGuy

#38
Quote from: colinw on February 01, 2011, 13:15:19 PM
The destination scrolls on the original EMUs did not have Rosewood, but did have Grandchester.  During the early days of the Rosewood electric service I saw a couple of Rosewood trains go out with Grandchester on the front.  More common was a hand written bit of cardboard with Ipswich - Rosewood propped up in the front of the cab.

The EMUs had a few funny or junk destinations on their scrolls.  Over the years I have seen:

- Kippa-Ring.  A bit ahead of its time.
- Grandchester.
- Rocklea - not used as a terminus since the 1950s AFAIK
- Sunnybank - ditto, the angle there was removed shortly postwar I believe.
- Pinkenba
- Whinstanes-Doomben ... the original name for the "new" Doomben station

There may well be others.


Yep no Rosewood on the desto scrolls but they did have Cairns.... Townsville..... haha, Mt Isa, Dirranbandi, Wallangarra, Yerongpilly, Cannon Hill, Kuraby, Kingston, Beenleigh, Wynnum, Lota, Manly, South Brisbane, Whinstanes, Toowoomba, Helidon, Bowen Hills, Winstanes (Rubbed out/removed), Pinkenba, Goodna, Wacol, Darra, Oxley, Corinda, Ipswich, Roma Street, Central, Shorncliffe, Sandgate, Yandina, Caboolture, Petrie, Zillmere, Ferny Grove, Keperra, Enoggera, Mitchelton, Strathpine, Exhibition and the final one is Special. That's what it says on the old hand painted EMU desto scrolls.

Arnz

Quote from: colinw on February 01, 2011, 13:15:19 PM
The destination scrolls on the original EMUs did not have Rosewood, but did have Grandchester.  During the early days of the Rosewood electric service I saw a couple of Rosewood trains go out with Grandchester on the front.  More common was a hand written bit of cardboard with Ipswich - Rosewood propped up in the front of the cab.

I've seen Gold Coast bound EMUs with scroll destos go out with "Robina" on the front, but had a piece of paper with hand written "Gold Coast" desto sticky-taped on the front of the cab in the early days of the Airport service.
Rgds,
Arnz

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