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Premier
The Honourable Campbell Newman

Newman Government welcomes Parallel Runway

Premier Campbell Newman has welcomed the announcement by Brisbane Airport Corporation that work on the new Parallel Runway is due to begin within weeks.

Mr Newman said Brisbane Airport was the major gateway for business in Queensland.

"The Parallel Runway will provide billions of dollars of economic benefits, create jobs and support our four pillars of resources, construction, agriculture and especially tourism," Mr Newman said.

"More immediately, during the peak construction phase of the project, the runway is expected to generate almost 2,700 jobs, not to mention 7,800 brand new permanent jobs by 2035.

"Since coming to office, the Newman Government has expressed its views to representatives from Brisbane Airport Corporation about the need to expedite the construction of the runway in the interests of Queensland.

"This announcement is a major step towards improving Brisbane's infrastructure and dovetails nicely with our plans to build critical infrastructure around Queensland.

"A Parallel Runway will mean more flights into Brisbane and will give the business community the confidence it needs to book seminars, forums and conferences in Brisbane, safe in the knowledge they will arrive on time.

"The tourism benefits will also be great and will help drive our commitment to double overnight visitor expenditure to $30 billion by 2020.

"Tourism already contributes a total of $22 billion every year to the Queensland economy and we're starting to see some of the fruits of the hard work that we've put into promoting Queensland in Australia and around the world.

"Overall visitor numbers are up 10 per cent in the past year – the number of visitors from China alone is up 32 per cent – and this runway will help bring Brisbane Airport up to speed with some of the major airports around the world."

[ENDS] 10 October 2013
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Deputy Premier, Minister for State Development, Infrastructure and Planning
The Honourable Jeff Seeney

Queensland Airports Strategy Takes Off

The Newman Government has released a new Economic Directions statement, Economic Directions Statement – Queensland Airports 2013-2023, to drive airport expansion and employment across Queensland.

Deputy Premier and Minister for State Development, Infrastructure and Planning Jeff Seeney said the new Economic Directions statement aims to build on 40 of the state's leading airports which have strategic significance for economic growth.

"The Newman Government will assist Queensland's airports to build on their areas of competitive advantage and attract new investment," Mr Seeney said.

"The government will make a significant contribution to support the proposed $418.6 million Sunshine Coast airport expansion project as a tangible demonstration of what the strategy means to Queensland's strategic airports.

"The government is in the process of handing over three parcels of land needed by the Sunshine Coast Regional Council for this project.

"They will be converted to freehold title, at no cost to the Sunshine Coast Regional Council.

"This is a very significant contribution towards this key economic development project on the Sunshine Coast.

"The Queensland Government's contribution should assist the Council's effort to raise the necessary capital for the expansion project, which is currently undergoing assessment by the Coordinator-General."

The airport expansion project could create up to 5,000 direct jobs and when operational, could result in as many as 3,400 indirect jobs in the region.

Mr Seeney said the Newman Government was fully committed to doing everything it could to help the Sunshine Coast airport position itself to take advantage of new market opportunities.

"That is why we have amended the State Planning Regulation to exclude infrastructure on airports, and ancillary works from any development assessment referral under the Vegetation Management Act," he said.

"This move will not only assist the Sunshine Coast airport, but will benefit all other Queensland airports facing vegetation management issues.

"Our approach is all about reconciling what's best for the Queensland economy, and above all, thinking long-term."

Economic Directions Statement – Queensland Airports 2013-2023 is available to download from:  www.dsdip.qld.gov.au/airports

[ENDS] 16 October 2013
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I don't get aircraft noise.  I mean you move under a flight path, sure a month or two it's bad, then you get used to it and don't even hear it.

James

Little tidbit of interest in the article:

QuoteThe top four complainants accounted for over 80 per cent of all these complaints, with the most frequent complainant lodging 11,428 during the period

That means 2 in every 3 complaints come from this one person! Another way of looking at it, is that this person lodges 10.4 complaints every day, or one complaint every 2 hours and 20 minutes.

Is there a way you can simply force evict someone? This person honestly sounds like a community pest and should be removed from the flight path. Maybe she should be put out in the middle of nowhere so she has both no aircraft noise and nobody to complain to.  >:D And on that note, a curfew shouldn't be implemented. Current noise abatement measures are adequate.
Is it really that hard to run frequent, reliable public transport?

SurfRail

There's somebody in that same position in Adelaide who personally accounts for around 75% of the complaints received.  And Adelaide has much more legitimate issues with noise given where the airport and flight paths are.
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Set in train

Quote from: James on October 24, 2013, 10:36:18 AM
Little tidbit of interest in the article:

QuoteThe top four complainants accounted for over 80 per cent of all these complaints, with the most frequent complainant lodging 11,428 during the period

That means 2 in every 3 complaints come from this one person! Another way of looking at it, is that this person lodges 10.4 complaints every day, or one complaint every 2 hours and 20 minutes.

Yes, he lives in Tingalpa from memory and phones every time a plane flies over. Was featured in print media a year or two ago.

James

Quote from: Set in train on October 24, 2013, 12:00:42 PMYes, he lives in Tingalpa from memory and phones every time a plane flies over. Was featured in print media a year or two ago.

As much as I love freedom and all that, is there any way to remove wankers like that from the community? Or at least have all his complains put into a spam folder where they just get shredded and then dumped on his house every year? People like this are wasting resources for the odd time that there is a genuine complaint which needs to be dealt with, and should be dealt with.
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Stillwater

Bring on the new runway for the Sunshine Coast Airport.  Uncle Clive (Palmer)might feel generous and fund a light rail link from the airport to his resort and plastic dinosaur park at Coolum.

Arnz

Considering BNE can only support 2 747s and 1 A380 a day as of current, what makes Clive think SC Airport can support multiple 747s?   Also, GC's International LCC market is very tourist/low yield orientated with Jetstar recently axing direct GC-Osaka, Japan flights.

Whilst he is in right spirit of getting tourism, his views on Airports are pretty much :fo: :fo:

As most local Sunshine Coast bloggers and random people surveyed around the coast have said, most prefer increased domestic flights out of MCY to North Queensland, and to a lesser extent restoring the Adelaide link (better chance with Jetstar considering they just opened a hub there), as well as making the current Winter/Spring seasonal Air New Zealand flights to Auckland year-round.
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Arnz

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Stillwater

The Sunshine Coast Airport expansion reportedly will achieve a positive BCR of 3.52, deliver NPV benefits of $645m and will create 5000 jobs.

From the business case, here: http://www.infrastructureaustralia.gov.au/public_submissions/published/files/Sunshine_Coast_Regional_Council.pdf

verbatim9

Money better spent rail from MCY linking Bne. Improve terminal and run way for more domestic flights in and out of MCY. Make BNE the international flight hub essentially. Have dedicated trains every 20 mins MCY-BNE-OOL (Gold Coast)

James

I think the 'multiple regional airports' strategy as it works currently is fine. The only issue I can see is that the Gold Coast Airport has aircraft noise restrictions. And lets face it, the Gold Coast airport is far from a bustling hub. It didn't have jetways until recently for goodness sake...

I expect the new airport north of Toowoomba to have reasonable success domestically and minimal success beyond that. Gold Coast Airport is a low landing-fee alternative to Brisbane airport, yet you don't see airlines flocking to Coolie for lower landing fees/charges.
Airports located far far away from major population centres tend not to draw huge amounts of people - as such, I don't expect passenger numbers to take off (pardon the pun) at this new airport.

Any hugely expanded Sunshine Coast airport would be a flop. There just isn't the market there.
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Arnz

Gold Coast still doesn't have any jetways to my knowledge.  It's just one huge "building".
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Arnz

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SurfRail

^ May that never change.   I love it the way it is.
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SurfRail

BNE + OOL seems to work quite well.

OOL has quite considerable expansion plans designed to cope with a 3-fold increase in passenger density.  Given the city is meant to double in size over the next 20 years it sounds eminently sensible.
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SurfRail

^ Maybe not.  It certainly won't be an "alternative" airport to BNE, but I fully expect there will be more routes coming for SE Asia, reactivation of Osaka flights, more domestic services to places like Adelaide and Perth and so onm plus greater traffic density on the Sydney and Melbourne flights.

Even doubling its passenger count only puts it at around 10-11 million per year, so it is hardly going to eat too far into BNE's market - by the time it gets there BNE will be a lot further along than where it is now too.

Wellcamp is primarily about freight and local access.  I don't expect any more passenger traffic than say a Mt Isa (if that).
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Arnz

Looking at the other forums, AirAsia X Thailand is looking at direct BNE-DMK (old Bangkok Airport) flights to differentiate themselves from their Malaysian parent (who flies OOL-KUL), so it seems the 'silent' agreement to have OOL only go after the LCCs and BNE go after the premiums may likely be over (judging by the recent JQ BNE-DPS announcements).

However, I don't expect OOL to grab much routes with Premium Classes apart from full service carriers on Domestic Routes (ala Qantas) or LCCs with Premium Economy (ala Scoot).  At most QF may increase their services to SYD and perhaps reintroduce OOL-MEL

As for MCY, the only growth I can see is expanded FIFO and domestic passenger services, with highly possible passenger service to CNS (via JQ's CNS hub), with possible reinstatement of MCY-ADL flights (also likely via JQ given they just opened a hub there), as well as the council working on a business case for NZ to make their MCY-AKL Winter-Spring service a all-year-round service. 

Any other short-haul international service out of MCY (Nadi-Fiji or Christchurch) would likely be the occasional charter on the A320/737 given MCY's runway can only support narrow bodies.
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Arnz

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