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verbatim9

Quote from: verbatim9 on June 03, 2019, 18:30:48 PM
New train station at Skygate together with new terminals at Brisbane Airport, according to the new proposed master plan. @BrisbaneAirport #7NEWS #brisbane


https://twitter.com/7NewsBrisbane/status/1135462327581413376

Brisbane Airport announces draft master plan


Couriermail-------------------->https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/brisbane-airport-announces-draft-master-plan/news-story/933a1fc3f3cc4c7b33f8c547fe6fbe8c


QuoteBrisbane Airport announces draft master plan
Brisbane Airport has revealed multi-billion dollar expansion plan to build as many as three new terminals as it prepares for passenger numbers to double.

Nic Darveniza, The Courier-Mail

June 4, 2019 5:46am

COURIERMAIL1:23
Brisbane Airport multibillion-dollar revamp (7 News)
New terminals and train stations, and more international flights are coming to Brisbane Airport...

Brisbane Airport's preliminary draft master plan for 2020 has revealed multi-billion dollar expansion plans to build as many as three new terminals in a major facelift for one of the country's busiest airports.

PricewaterhouseCoopers data estimates that Brisbane Airport will serve more than double their current 23 million passengers per year by 2040, necessitating a host of upgrades to prepare for future demand.

The north-south runway, which has been in development since the 1970s, was the first item on the agenda and is due to open in 2020.

Brisbane Airport executive general manager of aviation development Jim Parashos said the new runway would help transform the airport into one of Australasia's busiest.


Brisbane Airport has unveiled a draft master plan. Picture: Supplied
"The new runway will provide flexibility of scheduling throughout the day to meet every Queenslander's needs," Mr Parashos said.

"Our current single runway operation can handle 55 arrivals and departures combined per hour.

"In effect, when demand builds in a few years, we can handle 110 movements per hour, effectively doubling our capacity.

"That will make Brisbane one of the highest capacity airports in Australasia."

Brisbane Airport spokesman Steve Grant said future development plans included as many as three new terminals.

"We may possibly do international and domestic passengers under one roof in the future," he said.

"We see places like Hong Kong where you're able to check in, in the CBD and take public transport. That could be an opportunity for Brisbane Airport in the future.

"There are very similar systems in Europe and the United States to screen passengers so we can get them safely onto their aircraft."


A performance track will make up part of a new $85 million auto mall. Picture: Supplied
An $85 million auto mall — a shopping centre for car dealerships including Sci-Fleet and performance track for test drives — will open near the Airport in 2021.

The master plan will be open for public comment until August 21st.

Draft master plan can be found here------------>https://www.bne.com.au/corporate/projects/airport-master-plan

verbatim9

#241
Quote from: timh on June 03, 2019, 23:59:07 PM
Quote from: verbatim9 on June 03, 2019, 18:30:48 PM
New train station at Skygate together with new terminals at Brisbane Airport, according to the new proposed master plan. @BrisbaneAirport #7NEWS #brisbane


https://twitter.com/7NewsBrisbane/status/1135462327581413376
They've been talking about Skygate station for ages, does this mean some progress on that front? I have my doubts that station is gonna go ahead any time soon,as much as I think it's a great idea. Too many weird politics about who would pay for it, how the fares would work, etc.


^^Members of the community have the opportunity to provide feedback on the ground transport plan. Its good to see Skygate station still an option in the Master plan. Community feedback is open until 21 Aug 19

QuoteThe 2020 Ground Transport Plan
also includes details of projects being
considered over the longer term. It
considers both a potential future mass
transit system and an opportunity to
work in partnership with Airtrain and the
Queensland Government on providing a
new train station at Skygate

QuoteAIRTRAIN SERVICES
Airtrain connects to the Brisbane CBD and to the Gold Coast
line via Eagle Junction. Weekday services commence at 5am,
running every 15 minutes during peak morning and afternoon.
times and every 30 minutes for the remainder of the day.
Airtrain is managed through an agreement between the
Queensland Government and Airtrain extending to the
year 2036. The agreement includes contract conditions that
restrict the introduction of competitive public transport services.
Government and key industry stakeholders agree that the
development of a new Airtrain station at Skygate would be
likely to increase the attractiveness of catching public
transport to commercial and industrial areas at the airport.
More information, including details of modelling work
demonstrating the potential extra public transport catchment
area of a new station can be found later in this chapter.

https://www.bne.com.au/corporate/projects/airport-master-plan

verbatim9

Airport expansion: Jobs galore as work starts on massive project

Gold Coast Bulletin--------->https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/news/gold-coast/airport-on-the-grow-jobs-galore-as-work-starts-on-massive-project/news-story/ff8f9c7afe4a893525721481c6dd8060

QuoteAirport expansion: Jobs galore as work starts on massive project
Locals are predicted to be the big winners as foundation work begins this week on a massive redevelopment set to transform Gold Coast Airport.

Luke Mortimer, luke.mortimer1@news.com.au, Gold Coast Bulletin

July 15, 2019 5:47pm


A LANDMARK expansion of Gold Coast Airport will create 1500 jobs over two years and eventually double the footprint of the existing terminal.

The project includes aerobridges, extra shops, a new departure lounge and updated baggage handling and border control facilities.

In total, about $500 million will be invested into the airport precinct at Bilinga, including the redevelopment and the ongoing construction of Rydges airport hotel.

Foundation works for the new southern terminal expansion will begin this week, ahead of its expected opening in mid-2021.

Work will then begin on a refurbishment of the existing terminal.

Queensland Airports Limited chief executive Chris Mills said years of planning was involved and the "level of development activity is unprecedented".

"This project will change the face of the Gold Coast and northern New South Wales and deliver a gateway that Australia's leading tourism destination deserves," he said.

"Importantly, the project will address current capacity issues while paving the way for future passenger growth.

"From September this year, we will have three tower cranes onsite at the airport."

Mr Mills said the airport was working with Lendlease on "unique solutions" to make sure the airport continued to run smoothly during the construction of the terminal expansion.

Lendlease Building chief executive Dale Connor said building a 30,000 sqm expansion at one of Australia's fastest growing airports was "no easy feat".

"It requires careful programming and stakeholder engagement to ensure minimal disruption to day-to-day operations," he said.

"Together with the airport, we have developed innovative solutions to minimise disruption to passengers travelling through the airport and maintain construction progress.

"For example, we will create a temporary baggage tug tunnel to maintain our baggage handling operation while the three-level building is constructed over the top."

Deputy Prime Minister Michael McCormack, the Minister for Transport, said the Federal Government was working with airports to improve infrastructure ahead of an expected boom in tourist numbers.

"With almost seven million passengers expected next year, the airport and the region will benefit from this development for years to come," he said.

"This means more options for locals, and more visitors to the Gold Coast.

"Recently growth in international traffic with Singapore and New Zealand has been really ramping up, and South Korea connections will start later this year.

"This is why our government approved Gold Coast Airport's plans for this terminal development and a major hotel."

Member for McPherson Karen Andrews, whose electorate includes the airport, said the expansion was essential to cement the Glitter Strip's status as an "iconic tourist destination".

"This will be great for the local economy too, not just once the terminal opens, but also through the significant number of jobs in the construction phase," she said.

The southern terminal will house the airport's international operations, but will also be able to service domestic flights based on demand using a "swing gate system".

A total of 6.6 million passengers per year pass through Gold Coast Airport each year — a number set to more than double by 2037.

The airport states it will pump $818 million into the region and support 20,000 full-time jobs by 2037.

verbatim9

The public comment period for the 2020 Brisbane Airport Preliminary Draft Master Plan closes at 5pm today.


Brisbane Airport ------>https://www.bne.com.au/corporate/projects/airport-master-plan

verbatim9

Quote from: verbatim9 on August 21, 2019, 10:29:03 AM
The public comment period for the 2020 Brisbane Airport Preliminary Draft Master Plan closes at 5pm today.


Brisbane Airport ------>https://www.bne.com.au/corporate/projects/airport-master-plan
I mentioned in my submission if the hours of the train could be addressed to run later to about 11.30pm or midnight. Also mentioned if they could complete Skygate station in conjunction with the opening of Cross River Rail by 2024. Especially if they want to run the line as  a separate spur? The station will give the opportunity for an extra passing loop which is needed to run more trains per hour.

timh

Quote from: verbatim9 on August 21, 2019, 10:47:48 AM
Quote from: verbatim9 on August 21, 2019, 10:29:03 AM
The public comment period for the 2020 Brisbane Airport Preliminary Draft Master Plan closes at 5pm today.


Brisbane Airport ------>https://www.bne.com.au/corporate/projects/airport-master-plan
I mentioned in my submission if the hours of the train could be addressed to run later to about 11.30pm or midnight. Also mentioned if they could complete Skygate station in conjunction with the opening of Cross River Rail by 2024. Especially if they want to run the line as  a separate spur? The station will give the opportunity for an extra passing loop which is needed to run more trains per hour.

I doubt we'll get Skygate station with CRR, however I really think they should improve the frequency + hours of operation for Airtrain. No mucking around with passing loops though, the line should be fully duplicated (and should be have been built as dual track from the beginning)

verbatim9

Quote from: timh on August 21, 2019, 11:44:54 AM
Quote from: verbatim9 on August 21, 2019, 10:47:48 AM
Quote from: verbatim9 on August 21, 2019, 10:29:03 AM
The public comment period for the 2020 Brisbane Airport Preliminary Draft Master Plan closes at 5pm today.


Brisbane Airport ------>https://www.bne.com.au/corporate/projects/airport-master-plan
I mentioned in my submission if the hours of the train could be addressed to run later to about 11.30pm or midnight. Also mentioned if they could complete Skygate station in conjunction with the opening of Cross River Rail by 2024. Especially if they want to run the line as  a separate spur? The station will give the opportunity for an extra passing loop which is needed to run more trains per hour.

I doubt we'll get Skygate station with CRR, however I really think they should improve the frequency + hours of operation for Airtrain. No mucking around with passing loops though, the line should be fully duplicated (and should be have been built as dual track from the beginning)
I hope you express your views if not done already in a quick emailed submission.

timh

Quote from: verbatim9 on August 21, 2019, 11:51:15 AM
Quote from: timh on August 21, 2019, 11:44:54 AM
Quote from: verbatim9 on August 21, 2019, 10:47:48 AM
Quote from: verbatim9 on August 21, 2019, 10:29:03 AM
The public comment period for the 2020 Brisbane Airport Preliminary Draft Master Plan closes at 5pm today.


Brisbane Airport ------>https://www.bne.com.au/corporate/projects/airport-master-plan
I mentioned in my submission if the hours of the train could be addressed to run later to about 11.30pm or midnight. Also mentioned if they could complete Skygate station in conjunction with the opening of Cross River Rail by 2024. Especially if they want to run the line as  a separate spur? The station will give the opportunity for an extra passing loop which is needed to run more trains per hour.

I doubt we'll get Skygate station with CRR, however I really think they should improve the frequency + hours of operation for Airtrain. No mucking around with passing loops though, the line should be fully duplicated (and should be have been built as dual track from the beginning)
I hope you express your views if not done already in a quick emailed submission.

Done! :D

verbatim9

#248
Virgin Australia unveils My Lounge at Brisbane International Airport


Couriermail-------->https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/virgin-australia-unveils-my-lounge-at-brisbane-international-airport/news-story/bbf9834e7e571fa08d165a0841dcde98

Quote
Virgin Australia unveils My Lounge at Brisbane International Airport
Just days after announcing the loss of 750 jobs and a possible relocation of its headquarters away from Brisbane, Virgin Australia has a glamourous new multimillion-dollar facility at Brisbane Airport that even economy class travellers can access.

VIRGIN Airlines has taken the stuffiness out of airport lounges with a family-friendly offering that even economy class travellers can access.

The unveiling today of the swank My Lounge, on the ground floor of Brisbane's international terminal, represents a bold multimillion-dollar investment and comes just days after the airline announced it would cut 750 jobs and consider relocating its head office out of Brisbane's Bowen Hills.

Paul Scurrah, CEO and managing director of Virgin Australia, said Brisbane was "an incredibly important part of our network", flying more than 500,000 people to 12 destinations, but it was important to restructure the business to ensure long-term profitability.

The new Virgin lounge at Brisbane airport Picture: Kylie Lang
Evolving the customer offering with a new lounge was part of that process, Mr Scurrah said.

"The design is based on feedback on what Virgin customers want, and in Brisbane, there are a lot more leisure travellers so giving them a premium relaxing start to their holiday is really important for us," he said.

Alcohol and coffee are among the beverages that will be on offer.
While business class flyers have priority access, economy travellers can buy three hours of lounge time from $60, with $10 for each additional hour.

Features include a serve-yourself buffet, with a bi-monthly rotational menu across American, Italian and Asian cuisine, and a well-stocked bar where you can make your own cocktails.

The new Virgin lounge at Brisbane airport Picture: Kylie Lang
The pies are locally made by Creative Cuisine in Salisbury and the beers are from Newstead Brewery.

Importantly for the chilled atmosphere, the lounge is not on the upper level with the other exclusive airline lounges but on the lower level beside rows of public seating.

It is a joint venture with No 1 Lounges, a London-based group that has 15 similar offerings around the world.

OzGamer

Quote from: timh on August 21, 2019, 11:44:54 AM
I doubt we'll get Skygate station with CRR, however I really think they should improve the frequency + hours of operation for Airtrain. No mucking around with passing loops though, the line should be fully duplicated (and should be have been built as dual track from the beginning)

Not sure I agree with this. The line as it is seems capable of operating four trains an hour each way quite reliably and does it really need more than that? As far as I know that train is never overcrowded and a fifteen minute frequency seems fine for an airport line.

Extended operating hours absolutely, but there's no need for more infrastructure to achieve that.

timh

Quote from: OzGamer on September 05, 2019, 15:45:46 PM
Quote from: timh on August 21, 2019, 11:44:54 AM
I doubt we'll get Skygate station with CRR, however I really think they should improve the frequency + hours of operation for Airtrain. No mucking around with passing loops though, the line should be fully duplicated (and should be have been built as dual track from the beginning)

Not sure I agree with this. The line as it is seems capable of operating four trains an hour each way quite reliably and does it really need more than that? As far as I know that train is never overcrowded and a fifteen minute frequency seems fine for an airport line.

Extended operating hours absolutely, but there's no need for more infrastructure to achieve that.
Yeah nah that's my bad. At the time I didn't realise Airport trains were running 4tph most of the time. I misunderstood, thought the single track sections were preventing it. I've since done my research. I don't think more than 4tph is needed, so yeah duplication probably not needed here. Skygate station I'm still all for though

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Gazza

The only real benefit of Duplication is more flexibility in Sector 2, since inbound trains aren't tied to a certain timeslot related to the outbound train.

AnonymouslyBad

Quote from: verbatim9 on September 04, 2019, 12:14:53 PM
Virgin Australia unveils My Lounge at Brisbane International Airport [etc.]

Particularly poor regurgitating of a press release here. Economy travellers "can now access" the facility? But only if they pay $60? That's ... exactly the same as every Virgin lounge? Only thing is you can now enter 3 hours before departure, rather than 2, but I can't see too many people turning up 3 hours early anyway.

Quote from: Gazza on September 06, 2019, 08:51:47 AM
The only real benefit of Duplication is more flexibility in Sector 2, since inbound trains aren't tied to a certain timeslot related to the outbound train.

Yeah. There don't seem to be any issues with reliability during the existing 4tph periods.

OzGamer

Quote from: Gazza on September 06, 2019, 08:51:47 AM
The only real benefit of Duplication is more flexibility in Sector 2, since inbound trains aren't tied to a certain timeslot related to the outbound train.

Fair enough, but I don't really think that's a good enough reason to put scarce infrastructure funds into this ahead of numerous more important things.

ozbob

Couriermail --> Brisbane Airport pocketed $600m profit from parking since 2003

QuoteBRISBANE Airport has pocketed over half a billion dollars from its lucrative car parks in the past 15 years, with a profit margin of nearly 70 per cent.

Analysis of annual ACCC reports into airport operations reveal Brisbane Airport's car parks have raked in an operating profit of at least $608 million since 2003-04, off the back of over $870 million in revenue.

While its profit margin over the past 15 years was slightly behind those of Sydney and Melbourne airports, Brisbane has ranked ahead of Perth.

Its annual operating profit has also ballooned by over 200 per cent in the past 15 years, from $20.6 million in 2003-04 to $65.4 million in 2017-18.

The operating profit of $65.4 million in the 2017-18 financial year equated to an astonishing $179,178 per day or $124 every minute.

An ACCC spokesman said in the past few years, Brisbane's car park profit margins had been higher than those of both Melbourne and Perth airports, but had lagged behind Sydney.

He said there were still options for travellers looking to avoid high car parking charges, with five independent off-site operators in 2017-18.

"For those that need to drive, they can choose the typically cheaper independent car parks operating outside the airport's grounds," he said.

"For those that want the convenience of parking at the airport itself, savings are available if you book online in advance.

"For example, in 2017-18, average online prices for at-terminal parking were 18 per cent lower for short-term stays of less than 24 hours and 36 per cent lower for stays of six to seven days."

Despite the big increase in its operating profits, the airport's profit margin from its car parks has reduced significantly since 2003-04, from about 81.4 per cent down to 65.4 per cent in 2017-18.

The ACCC spokesman said its latest report showed it had also reduced its long-term parking prices by up to 8.7 per cent when compared to the previous year — which was the largest price reduction among all monitored airports.

Brisbane Airport did not respond to The Courier-Mail's request for comment.
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verbatim9

Alan Joyce, CEO @Qantas & Paul Scurrah, CEO @VirginAustralia, Addressing the #NPC on 'The Great Australian Monopoly: Where nobody wins but the airports' #live on @abcnews https://t.co/01uucrsn9S

verbatim9

#256

verbatim9

Breaking -


Brisbane Development.com---> International hawker style food hall proposed for domestic airport

QuoteBy

Brisbane Development



September 29, 2019


Impression of Brisbane Domestic Terminal's Food Collective

Brisbane Airport is currently undertaking a $40 million redevelopment of the domestic terminal centred around the Qantas and Central terminal areas.

The redevelopment plans to provide airport guests with a world-class shopping and dining experience which includes a new food hall, called Food Collective.

Inspired by outdoor hawker street dining and farmers markets, the Food Collective will feature five new restaurants, Ze Pickle, Upper West Side Deli, Yo! Sushi, Nippon Ramen and Mi Casa Burritos.

verbatim9

#258

verbatim9

There are growing calls for an independent umpire, to help drive down sky-high airport prices. Passengers agree something needs to be done, but say that's not the only place they are being slugged extra. @EmArnold_7 #7NEWS https://t.co/ieRXkLOCRp

https://twitter.com/7NewsBrisbane/status/1183659473530802176

#Metro

^
First world problems!

It's not the role of the govt to regulate the prices of lattes and croissants.

As for parking, construction of multi storey car parks isn't cheap ether.

And people have a choice. Eat before you get to the Airport.
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verbatim9

#261

verbatim9

Waste from the Brisbane Airport precinct is being turned into compost for Queensland farmers. The airport's focus on sustainability is saving enough energy to power 2,000 homes each year. https://t.co/VZ3A1cpmr5 @laurenmarer #7NEWS https://t.co/eTzcVGqmsz

https://twitter.com/7NewsBrisbane/status/1198518976495570945

verbatim9

Waste recycling initiatives at Brisbane  International Terminal

https://youtu.be/xwzlMbJR9Us

Gazza

Quote from: verbatim9 on October 14, 2019, 20:13:58 PM
There are growing calls for an independent umpire, to help drive down sky-high airport prices. Passengers agree something needs to be done, but say that's not the only place they are being slugged extra. @EmArnold_7 #7NEWS https://t.co/ieRXkLOCRp

https://twitter.com/7NewsBrisbane/status/1183659473530802176
Just give 1 star google reviews to businesses that engage in price gouging.

#Metro


Lattes, food, and even airport car parking are not an essential public service.

Eat before you go or park at one of the parking places outside of the Airport.

As for the person who bought the $7 water - isn't there a free water bubbler in the terminal somewhere?

:bo
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verbatim9

#266

verbatim9

#267
BrisbaneTimes.com.au---> Possible later buses to Skygate to connect with shuttles to the Airport terminal?

Quote
A lack of transport options at Brisbane Airport will be further exposed when the city's new $1.3 billion parallel runway leads to a doubling in passenger movements in 20 years, Brisbane's development association has warned.

Committee for Brisbane executive director Annie Macnaughton said while the new airport facilities would be a boon for the city, accessible public transport was the "missing piece of the new airport jigsaw".

The Airtrain runs to and from the Brisbane Airport every 15 minutes in peak times and less frequently at other hours of the day.

The Airtrain runs to and from the Brisbane Airport every 15 minutes in peak times and less frequently at other hours of the day.

She said those improvements were needed, as the airport's passenger numbers would increase from 23.4 million in the 2018-19 financial year to more than 50 million by 2040.

"I think efficient, fast, 'turn up and go' mass transit in and out of the airport precinct is absolutely essential for Brisbane," Ms Macnaughton said.

The privately owned Airtrain has monopoly access to provide public transport to Brisbane's domestic and international terminals until 2036, due to a contract signed with the Queensland government in 1999. After 2036, the line returns to Queensland Rail.

It was a situation Robert Dow, a spokesman for transport lobby group Rail Back on Track, said needed to change.

"I think there is a need to look at opening it up to normal route public transport in and out of the airport," Mr Dow said.

Lord mayor Adrian Schrinner has asked the state government to revisit Airtrain's exclusivity, floating the idea to have the council's Brisbane Metro buses service the airport.

In addition to passengers, 25,000 people work at the Brisbane Airport precinct - a number predicted to grow to 50,000 by 2040.

As part of the Airtrain contract, the council's buses can only enter the airport precinct as far as the Skygate retail centre, several kilometres from the terminals.

From Skygate, bus passengers catch a shuttle bus to the domestic or international terminals.

Brisbane's new parallel runway opens in mid-2020, but questions are being asked why no CityGlider-type service is allowed to operate.

Airtrain chief executive Chris Basche said he had discussed extra bus services with the council, but declined to provide many details of the talks.

"Airtrain expects to provide a complimentary service to the Brisbane Metro when it commences operations because there will be connections between Airtrain and the metro at both South Brisbane's Cultural Centre and the Roma Street stations," he said.

Cr Schrinner declined to be interviewed on Thursday.

But in a statement, Cr Schrinner said there were "several opportunities" to increase public transport options for workers.

"I had a very positive meeting with the Airtrain CEO today and it's great to already have Brisbane Airport Corporation supporting better connections to the airport, Brisbane CBD and our suburbs," he said.

"...There are several opportunities to increase the public transport options for workers, including the expansion of Metro, and we look forward to working with Brisbane Airport Corporation and Airtrain to deliver the best possible outcome.

"The metro could provide both an economical and efficient way for workers to travel to and from the airport precinct."

Mr Basche said Airtrain negotiated with TransLink and the company running the Gold Coast light rail stage two when it connected to the main Brisbane rail line.

"Airtrain saw an uplift in passengers connecting from Brisbane Airport to Surfers Paradise after stage two of the Gold Coast light rail was opened in late 2017," he said.

"A similar connection will be possible with Brisbane Metro connecting the airport to major universities, hospitals and employment precincts."

Mr Basche says Airtrain's domestic and international stations were well placed to cope with the gradual passenger growth expected after the parallel runway opens next year.

"Airtrain also plans to expand the peak period frequency of trains - every 15 minutes - into the current non-peak period," he said.

Mr Basche said train services every 15 minutes were the "international benchmark".

"That covers between 90 and 95 per cent of all flights that come and go," he said.

An Airtrain ticket costs $19 from Central Station to the airport, or $36 return.

Mr Basche said Airtrain had noticed a 12.5 per cent increase in airport precinct staff using the service after offering a 20-ticket book for $120 for precinct workers.

Workers can travel within the precinct for no extra charge on the Airtrain.

He described Airtrain's patronage as consistent and not impacted by Uber or taxis.

Brisbane Airport Corporation is running tours of the new parallel runway and will hold an open day and a fun run down the runway in the first half of 2020, before it opens for operation.

Work began in October 2013 to gather the sand from Moreton Bay - to let it lay flat for three years - before the runway construction began in 2017.

TransLink did not answer questions about extending bus services to the airport. It said Airtrain had suitable rail capacity.

SurfRail

More passengers use the airport, more of an economic case to run more trains, Airtrain makes more money.  This is a self-solving problem.
Ride the G:

verbatim9

Quote from: SurfRail on December 05, 2019, 21:38:38 PM
More passengers use the airport, more of an economic case to run more trains, Airtrain makes more money.  This is a self-solving problem.
I hope the extend the service to 11.30pm? Especially now that Cathy and Emirates have altered their departure time to 00.30am and 2.45am respectively.

Arnz

Quote from: verbatim9 on December 05, 2019, 21:51:02 PM
Quote from: SurfRail on December 05, 2019, 21:38:38 PM
More passengers use the airport, more of an economic case to run more trains, Airtrain makes more money.  This is a self-solving problem.
I hope the extend the service to 11.30pm? Especially now that Cathy and Emirates have altered their departure time to 00.30am and 2.45am respectively.

Cathay always has had a daily flight around Midnight (in addition to the morning departure - although morning flights have been cut back recently with the recent HK protests).  Emirates is just changing one of their non-stop flights to the old BNE-SIN timeslot once the SIN tag ends.
Rgds,
Arnz

Unless stated otherwise, Opinions stated in my posts are those of my own view only.

verbatim9

Quote from: Arnz on December 05, 2019, 22:34:38 PM
Quote from: verbatim9 on December 05, 2019, 21:51:02 PM
Quote from: SurfRail on December 05, 2019, 21:38:38 PM
More passengers use the airport, more of an economic case to run more trains, Airtrain makes more money.  This is a self-solving problem.
I hope the extend the service to 11.30pm? Especially now that Cathy and Emirates have altered their departure time to 00.30am and 2.45am respectively.

Cathay always has had a daily flight around Midnight (in addition to the morning departure - although morning flights have been cut back recently with the recent HK protests).  Emirates is just changing one of their non-stop flights to the old BNE-SIN timeslot once the SIN tag ends.
The Cathay flight was around 22:30 it's now 00:30. A few people that I know that travel to HKG were complaining about the change. It's also a significant change for EK as well.  Plus the flights between 22:30 and 00:30; one could say that demand for PT services past 10pm is on the rise.

Arnz

Quote from: verbatim9 on December 05, 2019, 23:03:51 PM
Quote from: Arnz on December 05, 2019, 22:34:38 PM
Quote from: verbatim9 on December 05, 2019, 21:51:02 PM
Quote from: SurfRail on December 05, 2019, 21:38:38 PM
More passengers use the airport, more of an economic case to run more trains, Airtrain makes more money.  This is a self-solving problem.
I hope the extend the service to 11.30pm? Especially now that Cathy and Emirates have altered their departure time to 00.30am and 2.45am respectively.

Cathay always has had a daily flight around Midnight (in addition to the morning departure - although morning flights have been cut back recently with the recent HK protests).  Emirates is just changing one of their non-stop flights to the old BNE-SIN timeslot once the SIN tag ends.
The Cathay flight was around 22:30 it's now 00:30. A few people that I know that travel to HKG were complaining about the change. It's also a significant change for EK as well.  Plus the flights between 22:30 and 00:30; one could say that demand for PT services past 10pm is on the rise.

According to the Google Timetable search, current evening Cathay flight leaves at 12:40am. 
Did you confuse this with Etihad? (EY have the 10:15pm departure to AUH), or the morning Cathay departure at 10:35am?

https://www.google.com/search?q=bne-hkg+schedules&oq=bne-hkg+schedules&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l4.3392j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Rgds,
Arnz

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verbatim9

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Quote from: Arnz on December 07, 2019, 12:45:17 PM
Quote from: verbatim9 on December 05, 2019, 23:03:51 PM
Quote from: Arnz on December 05, 2019, 22:34:38 PM
Quote from: verbatim9 on December 05, 2019, 21:51:02 PM
Quote from: SurfRail on December 05, 2019, 21:38:38 PM
More passengers use the airport, more of an economic case to run more trains, Airtrain makes more money.  This is a self-solving problem.
I hope the extend the service to 11.30pm? Especially now that Cathy and Emirates have altered their departure time to 00.30am and 2.45am respectively.

Cathay always has had a daily flight around Midnight (in addition to the morning departure - although morning flights have been cut back recently with the recent HK protests).  Emirates is just changing one of their non-stop flights to the old BNE-SIN timeslot once the SIN tag ends.
The Cathay flight was around 22:30 it's now 00:30. A few people that I know that travel to HKG were complaining about the change. It's also a significant change for EK as well.  Plus the flights between 22:30 and 00:30; one could say that demand for PT services past 10pm is on the rise.

According to the Google Timetable search, current evening Cathay flight leaves at 12:40am. 
Did you confuse this with Etihad? (EY have the 10:15pm departure to AUH), or the morning Cathay departure at 10:35am?

https://www.google.com/search?q=bne-hkg+schedules&oq=bne-hkg+schedules&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l4.3392j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Bne International scheduled late evening flights.


Arnz

^

Looks like JL7906 is a codeshare onto the Cathay (CX156) midnighr flight to HKG.

Edit: Also noted the QF codeshare on the CI flight to TPE
Rgds,
Arnz

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verbatim9

Quote from: Arnz on December 08, 2019, 13:37:20 PM
^

Looks like JL7906 is a codeshare onto the Cathay (CX156) midnighr flight to HKG.

Edit: Also noted the QF codeshare on the CI flight to TPE
Yep the icons were cycling the codeshare flight numbers. It's just what I captured at the time.

ozbob

Brisbanetimes --> Airport parking costs to be scrutinised with new government rule

QuoteMajor airports will be forced to hand over more information about the money they make from parking and other services, in a federal government plan that has infuriated critics who want more drastic intervention to halt price hikes.

The Morrison government will require the nation's biggest airports to reveal more about their business to help the competition regulator assess the operators, backing a call from the Productivity Commission for more scrutiny.

But airlines said the government had "squibbed" the chance to give Australians better value after complaints airports were abusing their "monopoly" power.

"The government must urgently rethink this, because Australia's airlines and airport users face significantly increasing costs that will lead to more disputes like the multi-year court case where Perth Airport is suing Qantas to extract monopoly rent," said Graeme Samuel, the chairman of Airlines for Australia and New Zealand.

Qantas chief Alan Joyce said it was not enough to ask for more disclosure when the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission had recommended an "independent umpire" to resolve disputes between airports and airlines over charges for aeronautical services.

"The government knows there's a problem with airports and their profit margins of 50 per cent, but increased monitoring won't fix it," Mr Joyce said.

"This is a slightly bigger magnifying glass when what we really need is a way to get some balance back in the system."

The government changes do not go so far as price regulation because the Productivity Commission found the airports had not "systematically exercised their market power" while passenger numbers have doubled to about 160 million over two decades.

The government decision means the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission will gain more information from four major airports it monitors – Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane and Perth – and will use this to provide public reports on their charges.

Deputy Prime Minister Michael McCormack and Treasurer Josh Frydenberg announced the decision on Wednesday after several months considering the commission review, which said there was "reason to remain vigilant" about high charges.

The government accepted the proposal for the ACCC to be given more information each year on passenger numbers and the costs and revenues in relation to aeronautical services for domestic and international flights.

The airports will also have to give the competition regulator information on customer numbers, costs and revenues for car parking as well as the utilisation rates for each type of parking.

Airlines for Australia and New Zealand, which has pushed for months to have new curbs placed on the big airports in order to reduce costs for airlines, accused the government of siding with the "monopoly" airport operators and investors.

"There is no other monopoly infrastructure in Australia which is exempt from processes to protect
consumers against the exercise of market power," the airline group chief executive Alison Roberts said.

Dr Roberts criticised 70 per cent profit margins on parking, $4 fees for trolleys, "outrageously expensive" food and drinks and fee increases of almost 300 per cent on taxis in recent years.

Australian Airports Association chief Caroline Wilkie praised the government response.

"The recommended improvements will ensure the public has a clear view of how the monitored airports are listening to customer feedback and striving to deliver the best possible airport experience," she said.
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The Airport might be a monopoly, but the food and parking within are not.

Why not eat before you go?

Or park in a car park outside the precinct?
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red dragin

Quote from: #Metro on December 12, 2019, 06:29:28 AM
Or park in a car park outside the precinct?

Or google for discount codes and get a price as good as parking off-site, whilst parking at the terminal like I do.

verbatim9

TownsvilleAirport.com.au----> TERMINAL REDEVELOPMENT

This Airport really does need an upgrade. It's very cramped in there when a couple of flights are departing or arriving.


P.s. They really need to extend the Translink bus to the Terminal as well. It stops short just under a KM away.


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