Started by ozbob, August 15, 2012, 10:08:23 AM
QuoteCouncil to discuss light railTrevor Hockins | 15th August 2012 5:00 AMA REPORT, to be presented to a closed meeting of the council next week, will lay the groundwork for an integrated Sunshine Coast transport system, including a likely light rail system.Council transport portfolio chief Rick Baberowski said the report would include three integrated system choices, but was staying quiet on the specifics until the council had a chance to look at them.The council is expected to release the details, including some costings, later in the year.Cr Baberowski said a workable, practical public transport system was essential for the Coast's future.He said it had to fit in with larger transport networks to work properly, and that was where careful planning came in."I'm pretty comfortable that I can mount a good argument for an integrated transport system, but, of course, in the end it is the council's decision," he said.Cr Baberowski, who was a senior bureaucrat for a decade before being elected to the council in April, said he believed it was essential that key communities were connected by good public transport.Those key areas include Sunshine Coast Airport, the Coast's new health precinct in Kawana and commercial and tourist areas.He said Coast transport in turn had to be linked to larger transport systems in south-east Queensland, such as rail."Ultimately, we have to have an integrated road and rail system on the Coast that works," he said."That is an imperative for the future."Cr Baberowski, who lives at Beerwah and has divisional responsibilities for an area that stretches from Caloundra West to Glasshouse Mountains, admitted that the rail service between Brisbane and the Coast was not functioning well."Ultimately, it's up to us to argue to have that improved," he said. "And that is no doubt what we will be doing."But it is up to us to make the case to higher authorities, to build, for example, dual rail lines."The busy North Coast line, which links Brisbane and Nambour, is notorious for service problems.The difficulties are partly to do with dual rail lines running only to Beerwah, which causes a glut of trains between Beerwah and Nambour.Earlier this year, the Federal Government gave the council $500,000 for a feasibility study into light rail and transport options.
QuoteA tram to Mooloolaba? Sunshine Coast considers light rail optionDate August 27, 2012 - 4:31PM Katherine FeeneyA $4 million feasibility study for light rail on the Sunshine Coast has been approved by Mayor Mark Jamieson, although it remains unclear how the project, likely to cost billions, would be funded.In signing off on a two-year study into a proposed corridor between Caloundra and Maroochydore today, Mr Jamieson said stage one could be established as soon as 2020.But the council will be unable to pay for the plan unless a deal is struck with government or the private sector. Given the state government's current cost-cutting mission, such a deal seems unlikely any time soon.In response to the announcement, a spokeswoman for the Minister for Transport and Main Roads, Scott Emerson, said the project was not a priority."The Newman government's focus is to deliver on election commitments and to improve the state's dire financial situation," she said."A light rail project on the Sunshine Coast is not a priority project at this time."Yet the project's leader, Ken Deutscher, said council was hopeful the million-dollar study would present a convincing business case to the state."In fairness to the minister's office, this is a project that's only really just come out of council today and they probably haven't been brought up to speed on where we're at," Mr Deutscher said."That's a dialogue process that has to happen now."The feasibility study would also investigate a public private partnership funding model, similar to the one responsible for getting the Gold Coast's GoldLinQ mass transit system off the ground.GoldLinQ was realised thanks to contributions of $365 million from the Commonwealth, $464 million from the State Government and $120 million from the Gold Coast City Council, in addition to private funds."Gold Coast is a partnership between three levels and we think it's a good funding model for us to follow," Mr Deutscher said.If successful, the light rail system would travel between the Sunshine Coast's major destinations including Maroochydore, Mooloolaba, Caloundra and the new hospital and town centre at Kawana.Like GoldLinQ, which is due to open in 2014, the Sunshine Coast track would look to link in with the local airport at a later stage.Light rail taskforce member and Maroochydore architect James Birrell, who initially tabled the plans for light rail at the Sunshine Coast six years ago, said GoldLinQ also gave a good indiction of how much the Sunshine Coast project would cost."The Gold Coast [light rail] came in at around $1.2 billion and that's a reasonable figure to look at for stage one," Mr Birrell said. "But the final figures will come out in the business case - it's important to remember that there's cost avoidance in infrastructure if you start to condense your urban footprint of where people live, not to mention this project will also help create jobs."Cr Jamieson said the project was estimated to yield 9000 jobs during construction and operation."We want to become the most sustainable region in Australia - light rail could help us to get to that destination," Cr Jamieson said.Mr Birrell said without the project, the Sunshine Coast could end up with the urban sprawl challenging Brisbane's public transport network."The coast is facing a major increase in population and being someone who was born here I've seen the coast undergo a lot of changes which haven't been good for the character and feel of the area," he said."The Sunshine Coast will end up like Brisbane if it keeps going business as usual - our quality of life will really be affected - this will enable us to refocus human settlement patterns, reduce urban sprawl, and protect our way of life."It's about letting transport dictate urban form, rather than the other way around."Brisbane City Council currently has no plans for a similar light rail network, however a $2 million feasibility study into a new bus network is currently being conducted by AECOM.Due for completion in mid-2013, the Suburbs 2 City Buslink includes a proposed new green bridge from the Cultural Centre and aims to reduce congestion on surface roads by taking 8000 buses off CBD streets per day.Meanwhile plans for the state government's pared-back $4.4 billion Cross River Rail Project have been submitted to Infrastructure Australia for funding consideration.Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/a-tram-to-mooloolaba-sunshine-coast-considers-light-rail-option-20120827-24w2y.html
Quote from: SurfRail on August 15, 2012, 15:28:26 PMIf they can afford something like this, they can afford to just give the money to Campbell so they can duplicate the line to Nambour and build CAMCOS, and maybe an extra hundred or so buses. There is no point mucking around with this sort of thing while the basics are so rooted.
Quote from: tramtrain on August 28, 2012, 09:29:04 AMSo follow CoastConnect for now, make sure there is some heavy rail to at least Caloundra (to act as a hub pending further extension of the heavy rail line).
QuoteA RETIRED development analyst has warned the Sunshine Coast not to follow the Gold Coast by installing a light rail network.Alan Midwood, who wrote the Midwood Report on property investment, has described the Gold Coast light rail project as a cost burden that has already proven a failure.The Sunshine Coast Council has endorsed light rail as its vision for public transport and has begun studying the business case and feasibility of a system, including potential routes.The first stage of a light rail system on the Sunshine Coast has been put at $1.3 billion.In a letter to the Daily, Mr Midwood said the cost of the Gold Coast light rail had blown out from an original $360 million to $1.85 billion and was still rising.While construction of the Gold Coast system was expected to cost $1.1 billion, another $750 million was needed to widen roads and replace hydraulic, electric and telephone services underneath that would be inaccessible once the tracks were down.Mr Midwood said $365 million of the Gold Coast's money was coming from the Australian Investment Fund, and $1.365 billion was being borne by the State Government, but the Sunshine Coast could not expect such hand-outs."Readers can make their own assessment of that happening again under the Campbell Newman Government," he said.Mr Midwood said the Gold Coast did not have the population base to support light rail and the Sunshine Coast even less so.He said the benefits of light rail did not outweigh the costs.Businesses along the Gold Coast's route were losing trade during construction, 2000 car parking spaces would be lost, and the light rail tram cars would impede the flow of traffic which would have to stop every time passengers alighted, he said.A Sunshine Coast Council spokesperson said the council would continue to work closely with Gold Coast and TransLink colleagues during analysis of the feasibility and business case for the project."If it doesn't measure up it won't proceed. This is fundamentally what a feasibility assessment is all about," the spokesperson said.They said light rail had been the preferred option in similar environments around the world.
Quote from: colinw on September 04, 2012, 15:10:22 PMIf he is claiming 10,000 for the Gold Coast Light Rail then he's either a fool or a liar. That would represent a huge drop in patronage compared to the current bus service, which is a most unlikely outcome!
Quote from: SurfRail on September 04, 2012, 15:15:16 PM^ Yes. He might have done (I've been the only person on board a service between Southport and Surfers from time to time, it does happen), but he has extrapolated that into every single bus on the road.Personal anecdotes make for bad arguments.
Quote from: HappyTrainGuy on September 04, 2012, 20:52:50 PMI've been on a host of bus routes by myself.
Quote from: Jonno on September 05, 2012, 08:10:28 AMWhat exactly do those who oppose the GC LRT and other bus or light rail proposals/project actually believe is the alternative. Surely the cannot believe that spending more on road capacity is somehow going to deliver anything but more congestion. Why do people still believe that the last 40 years of road building has not a failed.
QuoteThe Sunshine Coast needs to grow a "spine", according to its mayor.Mark Jamieson has released the Sunshine Coast Regional Council's feasibility study into a light rail system, calling it the best option for building a public transport backbone for the region.Construction would take 15 to 20 years, during which time the population of the Sunshine Coast is expected to grow by 50 per cent."For us to maintain the great charm and lifestyle benefits of the Sunshine Coast we need to have a really effective public transport system," Cr Jamieson said."The alternative is just continuing to acquire property and widen roads, and that's just not a solution that fits well with the region we want to be."Cr Jamieson said the most common form of transport was private vehicle because long or insufficiently serviced public transport routes put many people off using the region's local buses.He said the feasibility study involved looking at rapid transit systems in Kobe, Shanghai, Portland and San Francisco, as well as Melbourne and the Gold Coast."It really is a very efficient and effective way of moving a lot of people around at the one time with a very reliable and regular service so that we create a really effective transportation spine for the Sunshine Coast," he said."We would want a system in the future that would be very reliable, very cost effective, and give people confidence to get out of their cars."Cr Jamieson estimated the first two stages would cost $2 billion, and would see about 23 kilometres of track link Maroochydore's new CBD to the Kawana health precinct, then on to Caloundra."Then there's another leg from Maroochydore to the airport, and into the future...it could include legs to the university and other parts of the Sunshine Coast," he said.He said an advantage the Sunshine Coast had over the Gold Coast was it had large corridors of land still available for use."We are in a fairly fortunate position where we can achieve that, and that obviously means that it's less expensive than going back and having to retrofit everything," he said.Cr Jamieson said a list of possible routes would be put out for public consultation at the end of the month, and he called on residents to have their say."This is an opportunity for our community to see the future, play a role in determining that future, but also make sure their state government representatives understand that this is what they see as a very viable option," he said."Then of course we'd get down to the nitty gritty of how it's to be funded."Cr Jamieson said the council and the federal government would need to contribute, but ultimately the state government would pay the bulk of the $2 billion."This needs to be seen as a great economic driver as well," he said."The density that builds up around the nodes, or the light rail stations, is quite significant."He said the Sunshine Coast was already seeing a trend towards higher-density apartment blocks closer to major facilities, meaning a light rail system would be in the interest of companies including residential and retail developers.Cr Jamieson said frequent bus services from the light rail stations to suburban destinations would be part of the overall transport plan.Rail Back on Track spokesman Jeff Addison said the plan would be a boost for the region."Light rail has been a boon on the Gold Coast, it's been very well patronised, and I think it would be the same for the Sunshine Coast," he said.Mr Addison said in the future the system could be linked to heavy rail in places like Beerwah and Cooroy, creating a full circle service.For more information on the proposed Sunshine Coast light rail system, visit the council website.
QuoteA TOURISM chief, a public transport campaigner and a university deputy vice-chancellor have all welcomed a future light rail network.But a Coast retiree believes a simpler fix exists.A feasibility study into the light rail network, predicted to cost a minimum of $90 million a kilometre to build, was released on Wednesday by Sunshine Coast Council.Sunshine Coast Destination CEO Simon Ambrose said he believed the proposed network offered an opportunity to "free up" the Coast to visitors and locals."I certainly think that any opportunity to engage our visitors with different areas of the Coast and to disperse them to different areas of the Coast is a really positive one," Mr Ambrose said."It (light rail) can be really important for dispersal."Rail Back on Track Sunshine Coast spokesman Jeff Addison was supportive of the plans for light rail and hoped it, combined with a duplication of the heavy rail line from Brisbane to Nambour, would solve travel headaches for Coast residents."The Sunshine Coast does need public transport and a light rail network," Mr Addison said."The cost of building the light rail is offset by the cost that would come with providing extra lanes (on major Coast roads)."Buderim retiree Graham Bailey said he was apprehensive about the Coast committing to such an expensive public transport project when the system was already struggling to provide an adequate service."It's an awful lot of money," Mr Bailey said."You've got to get buses going (more effectively). My answer is no: forget the light rail and get the buses going again."Definitely (upgrade the bus services first) because you're still going to need a service in the future to get to the tram or the light rail (from suburbs inland from the proposed light rail)."Mr Bailey would rather see an upgrade to heavy rail services to the Sunshine Coast before a light rail network was introduced, especially as he felt the light rail would not benefit large numbers of Coast residents away from the proposed coastal line."It's not going to benefit us in any way."Where we are, we don't even have a direct bus service to Mooloolaba."University of the Sunshine Coast Deputy Vice-Chancellor Birgit Lohmann said a light-rail network servicing the university could help attract students from further south to the Coast to study."Potentially, yes, because we're now seeing a lot more students joining the university from North Brisbane," Prof Lohmann said."We should explore these options with vigour."
QuoteTHE State Treasurer's department has confirmed it is not considering a touted third-of-the-cost alternative to the Sunshine Coast Council-endorsed $2 billion light rail network.American Maglev Technology Inc has approached the state government about a proposal to construct a private sector-funded, elevated rail network for an estimated $600 million.AMT's representative in Australia, Dick Rowe, spoke of his frustration at being unable to further discuss the AMT proposal with relevant stakeholders, for a system he said would cost the state government only operating costs after construction.A spokesman for Treasurer Tim Nicholls said the AMT proposal was not on the radar."We are not currently considering a Maglev rail option for Sunshine Coast's public transport system," the spokesman said.
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