Logan Rd BUZ 175 & redirect the 170

[beauyboy]

Ok I hate duplicate routes so here is my idea to add a new BUZ but lose almost no coverage.
BUZ the 175 by deleting the 174 and adding those runs to the 175. Minimal cost big gain.
To cover the Creek Road - Newnham rd stops the 174 use to service redirect the 170 from ducking down Broadwater rd to traveling down Creek road. There is only one stop on Broadwater Road and is within 600meters of many other stops (logan road, creek road, Newnham rd). This also benefits Creek Rd uses as it will give them a quicker run into the city

In short this gives a New BUZ with minimal cost and has very little change to existing routes and/or coverage.

Donald

[#Metro]

It has my YES vote!

CUT!!

[cartoonbirdhaus]

I voted YES too. Maybe at the other end, terminate it underneath Holland Park West busway station? That would make a frequency increase to the 170 viable, in addition to BUZ-ing the 175.

[WTN]

I had the same idea too, so a big YES from me. Stop spacing for both 174 and 175 needs to be rationalised. Some are ridiculously close.

Can a bus turnaround under Holland Park West?

I would also consider removing BUZ 180 from Logan Rd once 175 is a BUZ. Either terminate at Holland Park West or send it via Cavendish Rd. Both options require rejigging of stops.

[#Metro]

I would also consider removing BUZ 180 from Logan Rd once 175 is a BUZ. Either terminate at Holland Park West or send it via Cavendish Rd. Both options require rejigging of stops.

It is always confusing with some of these buses - with a car you'd just drive STRAIGHT down the main road. Not with public transport - no - in addition to being slowed down stopping everywhere, you have to be taken on detours / blah as well.

Steam iron please! (Hmm, can we have a scissors and steam iron icon?)

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[kazzac]

Most of Logan Road has plenty of coverage/routes to choose from.

[somebody]

My main concern with this idea is what if the 180 is removed from Logan Rd (which would be sensible).  Then the 175 would be the only service between Juliette St and Holland Rd.  Perhaps BUZing it outweighs complaints?  I'm not completely convinced because there is already a BUZ and the new BUZ would be slower.

And should the modified 170 use Fairland St?

[beauyboy]

Fairland St is a bit uncomfortable where it hits creek road and I don't think it would give any time advantage.
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Yes I also had the idea that if the 175 was BUZed then the 180 could be rerouted to travel further done Cavendish Rd and then use Chatswood to access Logan Road and it's normal route again. This would again increase BUZ coverage and hopefully be at Zero cost.

Donald

PS this would also not add any congestion to Culture as it is not adding anymore runs.

[achiruel]

Is 5 an excessive number of CFN routes to serve Logan/Cavendish/Newnham Rds (+Wishart/Mansfield)? 

Anyway, here is an idea I drew up quickly.

Biggest problem I see with it is no service on Creek Rd.  Still, most of the homes/shops in that area are a reasonable walk from either Broadwater, Newnham, Cavendish, Logan or Nursery Rds.

Also how about terminating the all stops via Logan Rd & Cavendish Rd at Woolloongabba, they can transfer on to 66/200 there.  Will help frequency be achieved at lower cost.

I guess the other thing to think about is peak loadings.  For e.g. on the lower half of the pink route, for many it would be quicker to travel to GC Interchange and transfer to a busway route than enter the busway at HPW.  This is currently achieved by 186 (whose route number I stole ) but I didn't really want to include such a confusing variation.

[WTN]

Is 5 an excessive number of CFN routes to serve Logan/Cavendish/Newnham Rds (+Wishart/Mansfield)? 

Anyway, here is an idea I drew up quickly.

Biggest problem I see with it is no service on Creek Rd.  Still, most of the homes/shops in that area are a reasonable walk from either Broadwater, Newnham, Cavendish, Logan or Nursery Rds.

Where's the map?

The rerouting of the 170 discussed here increases the frequency along Creek Rd. Another option (but a bit awkward) is to reroute the 590 to follow the 598/599 along Logan and Creek Rds instead of Newnham Rd.

Also how about terminating the all stops via Logan Rd & Cavendish Rd at Woolloongabba, they can transfer on to 66/200 there.  Will help frequency be achieved at lower cost.

I'd caution against terminating all those services at Woolloongabba, especially during peak. Most of them continue through to the valley via Adelaide or Elizabeth St. You'd need at least some through running (but not all) since the 196s and 199s can get very full during peak.

[somebody]

Also how about terminating the all stops via Logan Rd & Cavendish Rd at Woolloongabba, they can transfer on to 66/200 there.  Will help frequency be achieved at lower cost.

That might make sense for some of the minor routes, such as the 172 and 203.  I wouldn't support it for routes like 110, 125 and 175.

[achiruel]

Where's the map?

My apologies  , here it is

http://goo.gl/maps/CUoU

[SurfRail]

^ Maybe the green one could go via Logan Rd, Mt Gravatt Central and Creek Rd for better coverage, then via Cav Rd.  The 590 exists to take Newnham Rd.  (Or put the 590 in there, either way.)

[achiruel]

Changed the green route as suggested, added GC-Carindale bit of 590 (purple)

Now if only the 590 would become frequent! 

[somebody]

http://goo.gl/maps/CUoU

Can't say I'm a fan.  Far too much criss crossing.

Isn't there no portal/ramp access to the busway at Holland Park West station?  And why would the 175 terminate at W'Gabba?

[techblitz]

if achiruel suggests terminating them at gabba busway and provided its possible then im definitely in favour. Enough buses pass through the gabba to warrant some terminating gabba services. And our little bus route 66 might start getting a few more passengers on board from inbound to the city.

[somebody]

if achiruel suggests terminating them at gabba busway and provided its possible then im definitely in favour. Enough buses pass through the gabba to warrant some terminating gabba services. And our little bus route 66 might start getting a few more passengers on board from inbound to the city.

What about weekends and evenings when the 66 isn't running?  That's the least of the concerns, really.

[somebody]

http://goo.gl/maps/CUoU

I do like the move from the Birdwood Rd portal to continue along Bapaume Rd to Nursery Rd before reaching Logan Rd.  That is superior to merely turning left at Marshall Rd as a currently poorly served area can be upgraded, and Wellers Hill can still be served.