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524 Redbank Plains - Goodna
« on: April 29, 2012, 04:06:50 PM »
Route: 524

Weekdays

First service inbound: 5.43am

First service outbound: 6.24am

Last service inbound:  6.51pm

Last service outbound: 8.20pm

Peak frequency: 30 minute

Off peak frequency: one hour

Days per week: 7

Weekends Public Holidays

First service inbound: 7.46 am

First service outbound: 8.24 am

Last service inbound: 4.44 pm

Last service outbound: 5.24 pm

http://translink.com.au/resources/travel-information/network-information/timetables/110801-524,525,526.pdf
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Re: 524 Redbank Plains - Goodna
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2012, 07:36:51 PM »
The poor frequency of this and other feeder services in the area explains why so many vehicles are parked near Goodna, Gailes & Wacol railway stations on a weekday.

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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2012, 07:56:00 PM »
For planners it is difficult to justify a high frequency service with the density of the area.  They could also be coming from areas outside of the catchment of route 524/5/6, but that would needed to be looked at of course.  Route 255 used to run every 15mins out my way for example during peak hour but had hardly any patronage, everyone continued to drive to the station, so the 255 was cut back in frequency, then route.

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Re: 524 Redbank Plains - Goodna
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2012, 07:57:37 PM »
Running more often than the train line is somewhat interesting.

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Re: 524 Redbank Plains - Goodna
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2012, 09:04:05 PM »
Running more often than the train line is somewhat interesting.

Trains leave Goodna, Gailes & Wacol every 6 minutes between about 7am & 7.35am but the 524 frequency is half hourly.

In the afternoon peak, the rail frequency is 12 minutes at best but waiting up to 30 minutes for a bus is not acceptable to many commuters with the option of driving to a railway station.

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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2012, 09:15:38 PM »
I was referring to the 255 which had the opposite situation.

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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2012, 09:21:41 PM »
I was referring to the 255 which had the opposite situation.

Route 255 used to meet nearly every train in peak hour, but hardly ever took anyone, people still preferred to drive.

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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2012, 03:20:14 AM »
The 524 bus is well patronised even with the present poor frequency, the next step would be 15 minutes at peak, 30 minutes out of peak.  This would also perhaps encourage some parking relief which is now a major issue and drive even more patronage.
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Re: 524 Redbank Plains - Goodna
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2012, 03:43:45 AM »
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30 April 2012

Re: 27 Apr 2012: SEQ:Brisbane Transport should be removed from Brisbane City Council

Greetings,

To further emphasise why the entire bus network needs to be recast, and Brisbane Transport planning control removed from BCC consider this example.

Bus route 524 which runs between Redbank Plains and Goodna has the following service characteristics.

Route: 524

Weekdays

First service inbound: 5.43am

First service outbound: 6.24am

Last service inbound:  6.51pm

 Last service outbound: 8.20pm

Peak frequency: 30 minute

Off peak frequency: one hour

Days per week: 7

Weekends Public Holidays

First service inbound: 7.46 am

First service outbound: 8.24 am
 Last service inbound: 4.44 pm

 Last service outbound: 5.24 pm

 http://translink.com.au/resources/travel-information/network-information/timetables/110801-524,525,526.pdf


As can be noted the service frequency is abysmal, and leads to massive parking problems at railway stations such as Goodna, Wacol, and Richlands. Gailes acts as a relief with hundreds of cars parking on the road verge daily.

Rather than waste valuable funds on the extremely ill conceived ' Maroon CityGlider '  we need to fix the bus system overall.  Inner Brisbane generally has plenty of public transport,  but middle and outer suburbia doesn't.

Bus routes like the 524 need a minimum of 15 minute service frequency at peak, and 30 minutes out of peak.  With hours of operation extended, particularly on weekends.

Brisbane City Council cannot grasp the fact that the public transport network needs to be properly integrated with all modes, and that public transport requirements extend past council boundaries.

Best wishes
Robert

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Media release 27 April 2012

SEQ: Brisbane Transport should be removed from Brisbane City Council?

RAIL Back On Track (http://backontrack.org) a web based community support group for rail and public transport and an advocate for public transport passengers has called for Brisbane Transport to be removed from the Brisbane City Council and uploaded to the State Government.

Robert Dow, Spokesman for RAIL Back On Track said:

"The state already owns the buses that Brisbane Transport uses through a lease-back agreement with Queensland Treasury and it already funds the operation of services through TransLink. No other council in Australia acts as a public transport operator, funder, network planner and beneficiary. In 2004, TransLink was created to perform the network planning functions, so we can't really see why Brisbane Transport needs to continue these functions or invent its own services."

"This conflict of multiple interests has also caused a bizarre situation where Brisbane City Council actively denies that it has a role in network planning or or delivery of new services (despite employing network planning officers) and then, contrary to it's own words, announces The Maroon CityGlider, which upon close analysis adds no new areas of high frequency mobility to the network that doesn't already have it. And of course it doesn't - TransLink didn't plan it, Brisbane City Council did!"

"Brisbane City Council's own words appear to contradict their own actions. Why is it that the Lord Mayor's campaign team is telling people that 'bus routes and frequency are handled by the State Government' while, in total contradiction, it announces a high frequency Maroon CityGlider and not only that, but also a City to Suburbs bus tunnel in the CBD, of which it pre-determines the mode, has no funding nor authority to construct, let alone alter TransLink's bus routes to use it. It is remarkable that something as wasteful as Maroon CityGliders is allowed to be funded, at a time when we pay some of the highest fares in the world, some of the highest subsidies in the world and residents within the three key public transport blackout 'no go zones' actively petition TransLink as they languish with worst-class services. Just ask the residents of Bulimba, Centenary and the Northwest!"

"We think the best thing to happen to Brisbane Transport is that it is separated from Brisbane City Council, and uploaded to the State Government. One option would be to merge it with TransLink and use 'ring-fencing' or other forms of corporate division to separate it from TransLink's management arms. A precedent for this model exists in Perth, Western Australia, where TransPerth contracts TransPerth trains internally to provide train services. It would also mean that new route planning would be much faster because there would be no need for TransLink network planners to talk to Brisbane Transport network planners, it would just be one, in-house, integrated operation. This is important as Brisbane's bus network needs to be recast around a Core Frequent Network (1)."

"This transfer could occur in stages, with all network planning being incorporated into TransLink first, followed by operations. This would allow Queensland Premier Campbell Newman to accept his own offer to takeover Brisbane Transport from the Brisbane City Council (2,3)."

"The public has had enough of the games.  It is time to move forward with a proper public transport system, with network planning and connectivity to maximise the use and return from public transport. Please move forward from the present mediocrity."

References:

Re: 25 Apr 2012: Brisbane: Council Elections 2012: More buses, more often!  http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=8211.msg96110#msg96110

SEQ: Brisbane Transport buses and ferries ripe for state takeover  http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=4715

Lord Mayor Campbell Newman wants State Government to run buses  http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/campbell-newman-wants-state-government-to-run-buses/story-e6freoof-1225839337936

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