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Ministerial Deliverables The Honourable Scott Emerson MP
« on: May 04, 2012, 10:50:46 AM »
Ministerial Deliverables  The Honourable Scott Emerson MP

10 April 2012

The Honourable Scott Emerson MP
Minister for Transport and Main Roads
Level 15, Capital Hill
85 George Street
BRISBANE QLD 4000

Dear Minister

Congratulations on your success in the electorate of Indooroopilly and thank you for
accepting my invitation to serve Queensland as the Minister for Transport and Main Roads.

Our electoral success was achieved with a strong cohesive CanDo team committed to real
change, and your contribution to the team played a significant part. Queenslanders have
voted for change, and it is critical that we respect the trust bestowed on us by delivering
on our commitments to grow a four pillar economy, lower the cost of living by cutting
waste, deliver better infrastructure and better planning, revitalise front line services for
families, restore accountability in Government and work towards our goal of achieving 4%
unemployment in six years.

For this reason, I am writing to each Minister outlining my expectations of the priority tasks
to be achieved to deliver on our election commitments. You and your Department have a
vital role to play in the reform program, as reflected in the following tasks for which I am
requesting you to take responsibility.

I expect that at all times Ministers will demonstrate to the public the capabilities and
behaviours that will define us as the Government we undertook to be – united, energetic,
disciplined and ethical. I refer you to the Queensland Cabinet Handbook, the Queensland
Ministerial Handbook, the Queensland Executive Council Handbook, the Queensland
Parliamentary Procedures Handbook and the Queensland Legislation Handbook.

Contribution to the 100 Day Plan

The following are the specific tasks relevant to your portfolio which you need to achieve in
the first 100 days of Government.

• Regulate to freeze family car registration
• Re-introduce discount fares for regular commuters on buses, trains and ferries, by
making the tenth and any additional journeys each week free (from 1 July 2012).
• Act to ensure our policy to halve Labor's huge 15% fare rises over the next two years
to deliver a real saving to commuters is delivered, with the first fare rise scheduled to
take place on 1 January 2013.
• Commence negotiations to include the Stradbroke Island and Southern Moreton Bay
Islands Ferries under the Translink system.

Support the Deputy Premier, and Minister for State Development and Infrastructure to:
• Appoint the Bruce Highway Crisis Management Group and instruct the Department
of Transport and Main Roads to compile a proper engineering based 10-year ‘Crisis
Action Plan’ to address the Bruce Highway crisis
• Begin updating the Toowoomba second range crossing business case
• Establishment of the Roads to Resources Program and the framework for identifying
priority road projects.

First Term Tasks
In addition to these early milestones, the following tasks within your area of Ministerial
responsibility are to be achieved within the first term of Government.
• Implement all LNP election policy commitments relevant to your portfolio.
• Identify wasteful expenditure that could be redirected to front line services.
• Complete investigation into affordable solutions to deliver an integrated, effective and
reliable public transport system, and encourage increased patronage.
• Focus on providing affordable solutions to improve Brisbane’s rail network,
including:
• beginning a program to extend the rail capacity of the Merivale Bridge.
• addressing capacity constraints on Brisbane’s rail network, including resolving
SEQ’s rail network into the CBD in the short, medium and long term.
• delivering increased daytime off peak services on the Ferny Grove line.
• establishing an enhanced maintenance regime to minimise disruption to the
rail network.
• ensuring that delivery of new rollingstock will adequately meet demand
• upgrading key rail crossings, with priority given to Telegraph Road, Bracken
Ridge and Robinson Road, Geebung.
• Implement the LNP’s School Safety Zone Program.
• Deliver on our policy to halve Labor's huge 15% fare rises over the next two years to
deliver a real saving to commuters.
• Develop policies and initiatives to address growing traffic congestion problems in
South East Queensland. Solutions must account for budgetary constraints.
• Meet our election commitment on construction of Blakey’s Crossing and Woolcock
and Mathers street intersection in Townsville.
• Identify the extent of over commitment to transport projects identified by the
Queensland Transport and Roads Investment Program (QTRIP) and realign the
investment program to fit with LNP investment priorities and to accurately reflect the
investment program.
• Implement priorities identified in the LNP’s Infrastructure Discussion paper within
the budget constraints.
• Deliver a 10 year strategy to fix the Bruce Highway including successful partnership
arrangements with the Federal Government and the completion of an engineering
based solution for investment ready projects.
• Finalise a strategy for the upgrade of the Warrego Highway.
• In conjunction with the Minister for State Development, establish a best in class
business case for the Toowoomba Second Range Crossing including participation by
the private sector and the Federal Government. This exploration should also include
consideration of the transfer of freight to rail.
• Implement the LNP’s election commitment to cut waste by reducing travel,
advertising and consultancy expenditure.

• Implement the LNP’s election commitment for sustainable public sector growth.
• Implement the LNP’s election commitment to reduce red tape.
• Continue to establish effective working relationships with stakeholders and other
interest groups relevant to your portfolio areas.

Could you please consult with your Director-General to ensure these goals are understood by
the Department and that systems are in place to monitor and report on progress towards their
achievement, so that you are able to update Cabinet regularly. In this regard, the Department
of Premier and Cabinet will be responsible for coordinating reports to Cabinet on progress,
and will assist your Department with proposed reporting formats.

I intend to review this charter and your efforts to implement it regularly.

Finally, I congratulate you again on your appointment and I look forward to working closely
with you as a Ministerial colleague as we implement our policies and achieve the goal of
providing a CanDo Government to get Queensland back on track.

Yours sincerely

CAMPBELL NEWMAN
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Re: Ministerial Deliverables The Honourable Scott Emerson MP
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2012, 10:54:08 AM »
Good to see these documents publicly available.  Some good things there.

Well done.
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Re: Ministerial Deliverables The Honourable Scott Emerson MP
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2012, 11:00:49 AM »
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• Commence negotiations to include the Stradbroke Island and Southern Moreton Bay
Islands Ferries under the Translink system.

Good work. CityCycle as well.
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• Identify wasteful expenditure that could be redirected to front line services.
Cut Maroon CityGlider, flush-through of Brisbane Transport Bus routes, cut Brisbane Transport and upload to State Government (bypass one layer of bureaucracy).

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• Complete investigation into affordable solutions to deliver an integrated, effective and
reliable public transport system, and encourage increased patronage.

The Core Frequent Network, Core Frequent Network Mapping, Cut Legacy Routing
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Re: Ministerial Deliverables The Honourable Scott Emerson MP
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2012, 03:01:16 PM »
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• In conjunction with the Minister for State Development, establish a best in class
business case for the Toowoomba Second Range Crossing including participation by
the private sector and the Federal Government. This exploration should also include
consideration of the transfer of freight to rail.

Encouraging. Maybe this will be usable in regards to the NCL.

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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2012, 03:12:46 PM »
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• beginning a program to extend the rail capacity of the Merivale Bridge.
This is discouraging.  Merivale Bridge capacity can only be increased by:
(a) tighter headways
(b) higher peak loadings on trains - i.e. more overcrowding
(c) higher average loadings on trains, best done by having the Gold Coast trains stop at more stations on the inner parts

Really, CRR was the best solution which was a bypass of the Merivale bridge.

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Re: Ministerial Deliverables The Honourable Scott Emerson MP
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2012, 03:17:59 PM »
It clearly appears to be in relation to the local Toowoomba situation.
Nothing on the most congested single line track in the nation, recognised as such in the 1994 BTCE report, according to Dr Phillip Laird, University of Wollongong NSW.

Not a peep about anything on the NCL in their first term.
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Re: Ministerial Deliverables The Honourable Scott Emerson MP
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2012, 03:25:10 PM »
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• beginning a program to extend the rail capacity of the Merivale Bridge.
This is discouraging.  Merivale Bridge capacity can only be increased by:
(a) tighter headways
(b) higher peak loadings on trains - i.e. more overcrowding
(c) higher average loadings on trains, best done by having the Gold Coast trains stop at more stations on the inner parts

Really, CRR was the best solution which was a bypass of the Merivale bridge.

 I wouldn't be too fussed.  When full briefings and what not undertaken from the government side of the fence, priorities will change.  The reality becomes clearer.
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Re: Ministerial Deliverables The Honourable Scott Emerson MP
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2012, 03:26:12 PM »
It clearly appears to be in relation to the local Toowoomba situation.
Nothing on the most congested single line track in the nation, recognised as such in the 1994 BTCE report, according to Dr Phillip Laird, University of Wollongong NSW.

Not a peep about anything on the NCL in their first term.

The are a number of LNP MPs from the Sunshine Coast.  Time they got off their backsides.
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Re: Ministerial Deliverables The Honourable Scott Emerson MP
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2012, 04:13:42 PM »
Or got a delegation from their constituents.  Maybe the petitions should be changed to read: 'we petition our local member to get of his/her backside and do something about the NCL'.   :D

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Re: Ministerial Deliverables The Honourable Scott Emerson MP
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2012, 04:32:50 PM »
Might be time to approach local chambers of commerce and bigger local businesses to get them to lend their signatures and support?

I'm considering the merits of an approach like that for basic issues down here like getting them to commit to a date on the Coomera River bridge.
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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2012, 04:59:16 PM »
For there to be any significant benefits of the Coomera bridge duplication, SE QLDs rail network would also require further Beenleigh Line triplications, and either improved signalling through the CBD, or CRR, or alternative to CRR.

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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2012, 05:17:18 PM »
For there to be any significant benefits of the Coomera bridge duplication, SE QLDs rail network would also require further Beenleigh Line triplications, and either improved signalling through the CBD, or CRR, or alternative to CRR.

Disagree.

Every station south of Coomera (inclusive), except Nerang, is in the middle of a current or future town centre, or is next to one.  For Nerang it balances out because of the high volume of passengers travelling on to Surfers or Broadbeach.

If we want to implement a local 15 minute frequency at some point to better support the rapid transit system and the development of the Coomera town centre in particular, the absence of the missing bridge will be a serious impediment. 

It is already an impediment to journey times as there are still precision crosses, and it does impose a limit on the number of peak direction trains (even if it is only down to one or so given related problems inbound of Beenleigh, that is still a big volume given the proportion of service it makes up).

Bottom line is it needs to be done, and can be done quite a bit more easily than any of the other things we push for.

We should wheedle as much as we can for low-hanging fruit, particular where the bit ticket stuff requires federal funding.  Sandgate-Shorncliffe, Manly-Cleveland (progressively), passing loop on the Doomben line etc. 

One thing in particular that Campbell now has to deal with, which nobody appears to have even considered publicly, is how the hell Central is going to cope with the passenger volumes which will now have to use it with no upgrade in sight.  There is some work on this in ICRCS and CRR documentation I believe, none of which augurs well.
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2012, 05:39:40 PM »
I side with BC.

The only impediment to journey times is caused by the lack of "catch points".

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Re: Ministerial Deliverables The Honourable Scott Emerson MP
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2012, 05:52:05 PM »
For there to be any significant benefits of the Coomera bridge duplication, SE QLDs rail network would also require further Beenleigh Line triplications, and either improved signalling through the CBD, or CRR, or alternative to CRR.

I also partly disagree too. Who said trains from the Gold Coast/Varsity Lakes had to go to Brisbane? Why can't Beenleigh-Gold Coast be 15 mins with a turn around service at Beenleigh. When the track futher north could accept the additional traffic simply extend them.
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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2012, 05:56:40 PM »
I side with BC.

The only impediment to journey times is caused by the lack of "catch points".

Que?

Catch points don't help 2 trains travelling at 140kph on the same 9km stretch of track.
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« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2012, 06:01:23 PM »
No, but they do allow trains to approach Helensvale from the south and Coomera from the north at full speed.  AIUI this doesn't happen at present.

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« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2012, 06:13:36 PM »
On many journeys I have done on the Gold Coast have often had to wait at Coomera / Helensvale for clearances.  The greatest idiocy of the recent era IMHO was building the Gold Coast as a single line, even if they left room and did the basics for a double. Have little doubt that the final section will be amplified, possibly as soon as the Games.  That will improve reliability.  Only the other day there were delays to problems on the single section. At least with  a double they can scoot around issues.
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« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2012, 06:19:25 PM »
Airport and Coomera R single lines combine in fairly unpleasant ways, based on stuff I have done.  CRR would stop that (assuming no political interference), but it's not clear that project is a go.

I've also had to wait on the airport single track.

15 minute frequency is achievable on current infrastructure south of Beenleigh in both directions, but 12 minutes is a real push.

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Re: Ministerial Deliverables The Honourable Scott Emerson MP
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2012, 06:24:31 PM »
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• In conjunction with the Minister for State Development, establish a best in class
business case for the Toowoomba Second Range Crossing including participation by
the private sector and the Federal Government. This exploration should also include
consideration of the transfer of freight to rail.

Encouraging. Maybe this will be usable in regards to the NCL.

But why not write "investigate improving freight rail crossing of Toowoomva range.  This investigation should also consider alternatives of upgrading the road as a comparison". That would be encouraging. As it stands it is just a "prove that transfer to freight cant work jesture"

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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2012, 07:43:40 PM »
How about revamping the 88 to be a QUT KG-Wishart Outlook via Parliament & CC Bridge.  161 just for evenings.

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« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2012, 09:17:38 PM »
^Nah, seems utterly pointless in the context of what the network really needs to be coming up with new services like that.

Simply survey the pax requirements for an all stops busway service, and then run as many 111s as needed accordingly.
Onwards pax to QUT change.

Nothing else needed.
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« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2012, 08:18:22 AM »
You don't see the positives? 
- Provides a 4bph service to Wishart Outlook
- Reduces turnaround costs
- Connects Parliament to both Roma St and Buranda directly
- Increases service between Roma St and QUT KG

Also reduces service to 8mp which is massively over serviced.

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« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2012, 10:09:18 AM »
Somebody seriously needs to sit down and go "this bus route for this road (or this stretch of road)" and make it stick.  Adjust bus stop locations to fit, and only keep expresses for longer corridors where justified.

Expresses and tiering is something I would expect for intra-regional services like catching a bus to Redland Bay or a train to Caboolture, and maybe the outermost stretches of the BT system - not from Carindale or Garden City inbound (especially along the busway).  All this duplication comes at a serious opportunity cost.
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Re: Ministerial Deliverables The Honourable Scott Emerson MP
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2012, 11:45:40 AM »
You don't see the positives? 
- Provides a 4bph service to Wishart Outlook
- Reduces turnaround costs
- Connects Parliament to both Roma St and Buranda directly
- Increases service between Roma St and QUT KG

Also reduces service to 8mp which is massively over serviced.
I could see all these reasons when reading the idea, but it's not what is needed right now in the context of the network.
The coridoor in question you propose for this service has heaps of options, and if there are localised issues with overcrowding (eg QUT to RS), then spend the money there directly rather than on a longer 7 day service that happens to cover that in it's last couple of km.

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« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2012, 11:54:10 AM »
Who says the 88 needs to be a 7 day service?  Perhaps there is enough demand on the SEB corridor though.

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« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2012, 12:21:29 PM »
it's not what is needed right now in the context of the network.
That would be your opinion, not a fact.

if there are localised issues with overcrowding (eg QUT to RS), then spend the money there directly
This idea isn't going to be a starter.  So far, whenever they have wanted to increase capacity here all they have done is increase the 66.  You can increase/extend the 393, but to get the 393 operating much more frequently than present is actually quite a long trip.

I challenge you to suggest how it will work.

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« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2012, 12:49:54 PM »
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Who says the 88 needs to be a 7 day service?
You did mention going to Wishart outlook on this revamped 88, so I thought that would imply them getting a 7 day per week service.

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That would be your opinion, not a fact.
Well, Id genuinely rather see more network wide BUZzing (Or at least a decent 7 day 6-9pm frequent service) rather than funneling another option onto the busway corridoor.
Remember that thread from a while back which had a list of 20-30 potential BUZ candidates that we voted on? I reckon that is a good basis to be working on.
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« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2012, 01:13:49 PM »
I think it's a valid option.  You can disagree.

Wishart Outlook currently only has the service to Garden City on weekends anyway, so it wouldn't be a downgrade.

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« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2012, 01:32:06 PM »
Yay!!! Its Sunday funday!!!!!! Hmmm.... No buses are running.... Haha stuff that then  ;D

My hatred for 5-6 day timetables continues.

FYI, 8MP can be underserviced for trips to the city. Waited 20 minutes for a bus to drop me off at the city (555 and the 111 turned up at the same time  ::)). 111 needs to be ramped up with more local routes terminating along the busway stops.
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« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2012, 01:41:57 PM »
What about the 88?  Was it evenings after it had stopped running?

I say harden up, really.

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« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2012, 01:56:05 PM »
Simon, giving an area a 5 day a week all day 15 minute service, and then switching that to a hourly service on weekends with a different route number doesn't represent good planning, at all, and yes that is my opinion.


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« Reply #31 on: May 06, 2012, 01:59:23 PM »
Simon, giving an area a 5 day a week all day 15 minute service, and then switching that to a hourly service on weekends with a different route number doesn't represent good planning, at all, and yes that is my opinion.



I think it is well recognised as bad planning. The notion that we travel less on weekends is also not correct.  Less peak hour but just as much travel yet our PT assumes almost none hence our traffic problems on weekends.
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« Reply #32 on: May 06, 2012, 02:11:13 PM »
Simon, giving an area a 5 day a week all day 15 minute service, and then switching that to a hourly service on weekends with a different route number doesn't represent good planning, at all, and yes that is my opinion.
You can increase the weekend/evening service.

I think it is well recognised as bad planning. The notion that we travel less on weekends is also not correct.  Less peak hour but just as much travel yet our PT assumes almost none hence our traffic problems on weekends.
I think we travel less on weekends.  There are Uni students who travel a lot interpeak on weekdays.  Certainly weekend travel is less concentrated.

I'm open to supporting arguments that we travel more on weekends though.  I've never seen any stats on it.

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« Reply #33 on: May 06, 2012, 03:06:24 PM »
One of the most remarkable things I saw recently was when I traveled on a Saturday from Capalaba to Garden City (en-route to Logan to meet up with a friend for a day trip to Byron Bay).  Mt Gravatt-Capalaba Rd on approach to Logan Rd, there was heavy traffic backing up to about half way down towards Neumann Rd. 

And on arrival at Garden City, there was gridlock in the shopping centre's carpark area but not a soul to be found at the bus station itself and very few people on the buses themselves.  In fact I was the only one on the bus when I got to Garden City and this was at about 10:30am. 

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« Reply #34 on: May 06, 2012, 03:33:40 PM »
I say harden up, really.

I'm from the northside so I'm use to the appauling public transport network. I'm use to the hourly peak hour frequency. The 314 during peak hour is more frequent than some of the Sunday services up here  :-r
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« Reply #35 on: May 06, 2012, 04:06:18 PM »
I took a walk on the NorthSide today, from Chermside, along Ellison Road to Sunshine Station.

Services on the buses that go down there are HORRIFIC. Worse, these buses can't even drive straight! How hard it is really to get a bus to go from Chermside, along Ellison Road to the train station? Nope, no can do.

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« Reply #36 on: May 06, 2012, 05:13:01 PM »
I took a walk on the NorthSide today...

Let me be the first in saying Welcome to the Northisde. I hope you had some bottled water and lunch with you... or atleast some cash for a taxi  :-r :-r
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« Reply #37 on: May 06, 2012, 05:28:17 PM »
And on arrival at Garden City, there was gridlock in the shopping centre's carpark area but not a soul to be found at the bus station itself and very few people on the buses themselves.  In fact I was the only one on the bus when I got to Garden City and this was at about 10:30am.
You certainly don't see this at Indooroopilly.  The bus station is busy at nearly all times of day, you even get a few people in the evenings.

^Nah, seems utterly pointless in the context of what the network really needs to be coming up with new services like that.

Simply survey the pax requirements for an all stops busway service, and then run as many 111s as needed accordingly.
Onwards pax to QUT change.

Nothing else needed.
Seems your main objection is Wishart Outlook.  While I don't expect a high use there, I see far greater potential to increase PT use there than at 8mp which is all park 'n' ride and well served anyway.

Roma St is also a sh1te terminus, and running more 111s will add more congestion through the Cultural Centre.  I guess the latter point they could fix, but offering a faster service via the CC Bridge seems worthwhile to me.

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« Reply #38 on: May 06, 2012, 05:53:37 PM »
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but offering a faster service via the CC Bridge seems worthwhile to me
AM Peak
9 Mins Buranda-KGS on 111 arriving 8:02 AM
8 Mins Buransa-KGS on P88 arriving 8:01 AM

Offpeak
9 Mins Buranda-KGS on 111 arriving 11:21 AM
8 Mins Buranda-KGS on P88 arriving 11:16 AM

PM Peak
12 Mins KGS-Buranda on 111 departing  5:29 PM
9 Mins KGS-Buranda on P88 departing 5:33 PM

1 Minute saving generally? 3 minutes at best in PM peak? Sounds like a pretty pathetic time saving I'm sorry and I personally couldn't justify a service on those grounds.

My preferred option for Wishart is for its basic service to be a 4bph shuttle to Garden City, with some through services in Peak Hour.
Area doesn't warrant a full time direct CBD service IMO.

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Re: Ministerial Deliverables The Honourable Scott Emerson MP
« Reply #39 on: May 06, 2012, 05:57:21 PM »
111's should be extended north.
"What housing crisis?? There are plenty of free mobile apartments rolling around on the rails every day"

 

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