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Started by ozbob, January 26, 2012, 06:18:33 AM

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Gazza

Aparently Logan refused to allow the new development to connect to their streets.

jkillope

Hi readers. This may be old time post of 2012. But i like to come up with this transportation available across Drewvale.

I'm a new naighbourhood in drewvale and bought a wonderful big house.  But i notice the bus shedule are some what lack of all times in this area. I previewly was living at mt gravatt. Good transportation but still lack in drewvale yet in 2014 ?

There is a city rocket bus. Not sure if that is a (express city bus from drewvale straight to the city) but notice it only runs early morning during peak-hours and then re shedule again late afternoon during peak-hours.  And the rest of the day from around 9am and until 5pm there are no bus to the city?

Making this all drewvale naighbourhood to walk all the way to Browns plains shopping centre to catch the bus? Take note: it would take me 45minutes walk from my home in drewvale all the way to browns plains shopping centre to catch a city bus (during the day) 

Not everyone just goes off to the city early. There are alot of people willing to go to the city around 10am or 11 am and spend alitle while in the city and teturn around 3pm and not go early 7am and back at 6pm Because the shedule with this 153 rocket bus does not work around the clock and only a very limited hours.

So i don't no what people in drewvale thinks about this but i do like to hear your feedbacks. And will ever there be for a change a hourly bus available to the city and back all day and night and not just 6am till 8am  and then there is no bus the rest of the day.

I don't drive a car im a pensioner and i go for bus.  Any chance the timeslot for this bus service will change better more (frequently) or does this mean drewvale population is not a big one to deal with yet ?


P.S  Bus stop seats and undercovers would be useful in drewvale. All i see is a pole with the name of the bus stop. When it rains we can't always stand there under a unbrella next to a treet waiting for the bus.   Hopefuly this will work out soon.

As they say.... Premier wants all queenslanders to spread out more evenly. Rather then be living stuck between close to the city as the population is growing and over packed. And they want people to move out far to spread out evenly and space. Rather then over packed suburbs close to city.  This is what i did and desided to move all the way here for a peaceful tranquility without the over pack people. As everyone knows queensland and anywhere is booming. They want everyone to spread out instead of been tight between suburbs.
thank you.

jkillope

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Hi im a new naighbourhood to drewvale.  I always must catch a bus to and from city and even garden city shopping centres.  These times are alittle too tight. And would be nice to see hourly hours to the city allday and night. Not only early morning bus and then late bus back home to drewvale.

I would like to catch a bus around 10am as an example. But there wont be a bus in drewvale at that time. This means i must walk to browns plains shopping centre bus stops to catch a bus to the city and to walk there from my home in drewvale is arpx 40minutes walk. 

STB

The idea for Drewvale is that you can catch an all day local route that connects to other citybound services.  If every bus was a citybound service running all day, we'd have a defacto taxi service, and this is part of the reason why the fares are so high.  That area of Drewvale also has a low population base, so it makes sense to just have a local service that links up to the main public transport corridors, with a peak only city service that runs when the highest demand is there.

I'm probably jumping the gun here, but I would suspect that Rail: Back On Track as a whole would not support an all day Drewvale to City service for various reasons.  And nor would TransLink for that matter either.

For yourself - you'd need to catch route 547 to either Browns Plains and interchange onto either routes 140 or 150, or to Woodridge station and get the train in.  See the timetable here ---> http://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/140120-547.pdf

jkillope

Thank you. May i ask if your in drewvale ?

And if so. Please forgive my reply bus which is the alternative best way to catch a bus from drewvale to catch a nother bus to the city lets say i want to go to the city at 11am. And then return around 3pm  If i cant get to drewvale because no timetable to and from city. Where can i go to change bus and all ? I am not too sure about going all the way to logan central and woodrige areas.. these areas are not always safe for me and my kids. Sorry for the rudeness of that but i hear bad things from many violet areas.  Browns plains shopping centre may only be there nearest and closes area available ? To me browns plains shopping centre is like a Garden city version with the buses all day and night from one place to another.

STB

Quote from: jkillope on July 30, 2014, 20:15:27 PM
Thank you. May i ask if your in drewvale ?

And if so. Please forgive my reply bus which is the alternative best way to catch a bus from drewvale to catch a nother bus to the city lets say i want to go to the city at 11am. And then return around 3pm  If i cant get to drewvale because no timetable to and from city. Where can i go to change bus and all ? I am not too sure about going all the way to logan central and woodrige areas.. these areas are not always safe for me and my kids. Sorry for the rudeness of that but i hear bad things from many violet areas.  Browns plains shopping centre may only be there nearest and closes area available ? To me browns plains shopping centre is like a Garden city version with the buses all day and night from one place to another.


Call 13 12 30, or go to www.translink.com.au and they will assist you with planning your trip.

jkillope

For me the nearest bus stop would have to be Macquarie corner of Buckley bus stop ? Where would i go to catch a antytime day bus to find another bus to go to the city ?

And when i want to go home. This means i must go somewhere to get off the bus and then catch a drewvale bus ?Or nearest place would have to be ?

STB

Quote from: jkillope on July 30, 2014, 20:19:44 PM
For me the nearest bus stop would have to be Macquarie corner of Buckley bus stop ? Where would i go to catch a antytime day bus to find another bus to go to the city ?

And when i want to go home. This means i must go somewhere to get off the bus and then catch a drewvale bus ?Or nearest place would have to be ?

Call 13 12 30 or go to www.translink.com.au and they will assist you with planning your trip.

This forum isn't TransLink!

jkillope



For yourself - you'd need to catch route 547 to either Browns Plains and interchange onto either routes 140 or 150, or to Woodridge station and get the train in.  See the timetable here ---> http://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/140120-547.pdf
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Thats what i mean catch the local bus the 547 from Macquarie corner of Buckley... to go to browns plains shopping centre bus terminals. Which im sure there is plenty buses to go to the city even by express i hope.

I also notice browns plains shopping bus terminals to be upgraded. Does this also means more better new routes express for example browns plains shops to garden city shops by express ?  Without the going all over the places one stop to another.

I don't really like the going thru logan central and woodrige as these places are a bad area. Only for my safety and only of my excuse i would rather a better safer route.

I just dont no which or where to get buses. Just know browns plains shopping centre is currently upgrading. I wonder why they are upgrading. Maybe new bus routes ?

STB

Quote from: jkillope on July 30, 2014, 20:24:49 PM


For yourself - you'd need to catch route 547 to either Browns Plains and interchange onto either routes 140 or 150, or to Woodridge station and get the train in.  See the timetable here ---> http://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/140120-547.pdf

Thats what i mean catch the local bus the 547 from Macquarie corner of Buckley... to go to browns plains shopping centre bus terminals. Which im sure there is plenty buses to go to the city even by express i hope.

I also notice browns plains shopping bus terminals to be upgraded. Does this also means more better new routes express for example browns plains shops to garden city shops by express ?  Without the going all over the places one stop to another.

I don't really like the going thru logan central and woodrige as these places are a bad area. Only for my safety and only of my excuse i would rather a better safer route.

I just dont no which or where to get buses. Just know browns plains shopping centre is currently upgrading. I wonder why they are upgrading. Maybe new bus routes ?

With all due respect, if you don't know where the buses depart from, nor feel safe at either Woodridge or Browns Plains, you should've not have brought a house in that area in the first place.  There will not be an all day service, the population density will not support it in that area.  What you have already is the best you'll get.

James

You have two options from Drewvale to get to the City:
1. Catch a 547 to Woodridge station, then catch a Ferny Grove train to Central station (faster option).
2. Catch a 547 to Browns Plains (Grand Plaza), then catch either a 140 or 150 to Queen Street bus station.

To get from the City to Drewvale:
1. Catch a Beenleigh train to Woodridge station, then a 547 to your stop.
2. Catch a 140 or 150 to Browns Plains (Terminus of these routes), then catch a 547 to your stop.

The reason why a 153 cannot run outside of peak hours is because it is not sustainable to do so. The part of Drewvale you live in is anti-public transport in road layout, with a predominantly 9-5/mum dad and the two kids demographic which is not suitable for high frequency public transport, and is too far away to justify a direct bus to Brisbane CBD outside of peak (and I would argue that it is too far away from the CBD to deserve a peak-hour service), and does not have potential patronage high enough to support weekend service.

If you are a PT dependent individual, may I suggest that moving out of Drewvale and instead to a house along the Mains Rd/Calam Rd corridor, which has high frequency services. If it is possible, get a car - developments like the one you live in were made with only the car in mind!

If you have further questions with regards to public transport planning, station upgrades and so forth, contact TransLink. This is a public transport discussion forum, not a forum for questions which TransLink's journey planner can answer!
Is it really that hard to run frequent, reliable public transport?

jkillope

Browns plains shopping centre at browns plains i feel safe enough. I was refering i dont like the idea of going thru logan central and woodrige after seen black people fighting around with sticks and all shown on television news.   So from browns plains shopping centre bus stop. If i catch the 140 or the 150 do these buses are (express) and goes straight to the city or are they also buses that stops everywhere ?  I would check that when i get around. I just dont have a car.

jkillope

Im only new around so getting the idea to get one place to another. I poligies for my repeats. Just dont want to be stuck allday at home without able to get around. Im a pensioner still young at heart.   Drewvle is a lovely place its why i buy a big house there. homes there you will be paying double price tag if living closer to brisbane. Its why the far you go the cheaper it gets and bigger sizes homes.  Im sure in the next dunno maybe 5 to 10 years time this idea about timetable buses across this area may change for the better... drewvale is filling up new land for homes and streets from what ive notice and constructions.  Thank you to all repliers. Will keep this bookmarked for future reference.

My nearest bus stop is call Macquarie corner of Buckley bus stop., I believe that is what the bus stop is call. Not sure the stop number. But from there i would need to rely on going to browns plains shopping centre to catch buses such as City express.... How about Garden city express buses ? and then all that return back to drewvale or brownsplains shopping centre just to get finally home in the afternoon.

I normally would go out around 10 or 11 am and return back from the TAP in the city about 2 or 3pm.

thank you.

Arnz

Quote from: jkillope on July 30, 2014, 20:33:42 PM
Browns plains shopping centre at browns plains i feel safe enough. I was refering i dont like the idea of going thru logan central and woodrige after seen black people fighting around with sticks and all shown on television news.   So from browns plains shopping centre bus stop. If i catch the 140 or the 150 do these buses are (express) and goes straight to the city or are they also buses that stops everywhere ?  I would check that when i get around. I just dont have a car.

Sorry if this comes along as blunt, but I hope you're not trolling here after that comment about fighting among the other races living in the area.
Rgds,
Arnz

Unless stated otherwise, Opinions stated in my posts are those of my own view only.

STB

Quote from: jkillope on July 30, 2014, 20:33:42 PM
Browns plains shopping centre at browns plains i feel safe enough. I was refering i dont like the idea of going thru logan central and woodrige after seen black people fighting around with sticks and all shown on television news.   So from browns plains shopping centre bus stop. If i catch the 140 or the 150 do these buses are (express) and goes straight to the city or are they also buses that stops everywhere ?  I would check that when i get around. I just dont have a car.

Then don't go via Logan, use common sense!  FFS!  :fp:

Routes 140 and 150 are limited stop all day frequent bus routes, use them if you want!

QuoteI normally would go out around 10 or 11 am and return back from the TAP in the city about 2 or 3pm.

Speak to TransLink!  Not us!

jkillope

So if i don't travel to Woodrige im going to take the long ruote to the city from browns plains ?

Routes 140 and 150 Which one of these buses are quicker to get to the city? Or do both use the same routine roads and streets ?

Also from browns plains shopping centre bus terminals... I know there are upgrading there as we speak. Not sure if its more new bus service or just upgrade of the terminal.

But having that said at grand plaza bus stop at browns plains shoppng centre. Which bus from there can i get to go to (Garden city shopping centre bus terminal) the quickest way without the long trip ? I don't no which bus to get. And having that said. Is there a bus from Garden city shopping centre to drewvale or browns plains bus stop in the afternoon like lets say 3pm back home ?

thank you

The Reaper

Quote from: jkillope on July 30, 2014, 21:39:40 PM
So if i don't travel to Woodrige im going to take the long ruote to the city from browns plains ?

Routes 140 and 150 Which one of these buses are quicker to get to the city? Or do both use the same routine roads and streets ?

Also from browns plains shopping centre bus terminals... I know there are upgrading there as we speak. Not sure if its more new bus service or just upgrade of the terminal.

But having that said at grand plaza bus stop at browns plains shoppng centre. Which bus from there can i get to go to (Garden city shopping centre bus terminal) the quickest way without the long trip ? I don't no which bus to get. And having that said. Is there a bus from Garden city shopping centre to drewvale or browns plains bus stop in the afternoon like lets say 3pm back home ?

thank you

Call 13 12 30 or go to www.translink.com.au and they will assist you with planning your trip.

jkillope


jkillope

Im only curiosity about this place. Because Browns plains is the line where Logan city council district begins. And knowing that there is more then 57 logan suburbs across brisbane southeast.

So.. The bus in which goes thru drewvale the 547 is that a logan city council bus or a Brisbane city council bus?

Take note that Drewvale is a brisbane city council suburb. But it links betwen the border of Logan city council. So... Drewvale is the tip end corner of brisbane.  So im curious to know what type of bus are they. And they won't be small buses like the one ive seen someone posted here previewsly ages ago these blue small mini bus ?

Thanks people. Just wondering.

SurfRail

The 547 is operated by Bus Queensland Park Ridge.

BCC is really the only council in Australia to operate its own bus service (excluding some smaller councils where there might be a local minibus or similar). 

Logan City Bus Service is just a trading name for (Reg and Yvonne) Clark's Bus Service which is a privately held business.
Ride the G:

jkillope

Quote from: SurfRail on July 31, 2014, 14:48:38 PM
The 547 is operated by Bus Queensland Park Ridge.

BCC is really the only council in Australia to operate its own bus service (excluding some smaller councils where there might be a local minibus or similar). 

Logan City Bus Service is just a trading name for (Reg and Yvonne) Clark's Bus Service which is a privately held business.

Thank you. Isn't that Brisbane city council bus ? the same colour buses you see across brisbane suburbs which has that yellow and green white thing colour or are we talking about a special bus for this area...?

If posible is there a photo i could see for this 547 and also what does the 153 rocket bus looks like ?

Thanks again.

SurfRail

Council buses are blue yellow and white, while the private operator buses are either TransLink green and white or have their own original livery - so Park Ridge's buses will either be green and white, or nearly all over white.

The 153 is a BCC route, the 547 is the Park Ridge route.
Ride the G:

jkillope

Quote from: SurfRail on July 31, 2014, 22:20:46 PM
Council buses are blue yellow and white, while the private operator buses are either TransLink green and white or have their own original livery - so Park Ridge's buses will either be green and white, or nearly all over white.

The 153 is a BCC route, the 547 is the Park Ridge route.

Right thank you for your full info on that.  A bus is a bus.  I have a strong feeling that even though drewvale may not be overly populated only growing fast but in time.  I have a feeling the bus to the city from drewvale will be more open hours in the future. But i guess im thinking somewhere between 10 to 15years time from now.  But i thought premier said Queenslanders please spread out evenly and live alitle futher away from the centre of brisbane. Because it is overly populated in other areas. So this is what we did move out futher back and then well transportation can be a some what little issue. However at least there is a bus localy and thank god there is browns plains shopping centre with bus terminals right there not far from drewvale.  But alot of work has to be done.

Brisbane is huge populated and it will grow even more. So transportation is a big must specially places like drewvale. And drewvale isnt like living out the outbacks.. This is a commercial zone as much as living before at mt gravatt.

May i ask you fellow members are you all from drewvale or near by ?

jkillope

Quote from: SurfRail on July 31, 2014, 22:20:46 PM
Council buses are blue yellow and white, while the private operator buses are either TransLink green and white or have their own original livery - so Park Ridge's buses will either be green and white, or nearly all over white.

The 153 is a BCC route, the 547 is the Park Ridge route.

I have a GO card. Currently have aprox 15.00 dollars credit on it.  What number zone is it for drewvale for the bus 153 rocket to the city ? the city been zone 1 if not mistaken.  If so i wonder how much this will cost me on my go card from drewvale to the city. And im sure its the actual same price and zone going back to drewvale...    Getting off from near myer centre or southbank where ever the bus may actually stop or (stop(s)

And if i was to use my GO card from the local bus here the 547 lets say drewvale to browns plains shopping centre.  What zone is this and how much will it cost me on my Go card ? Unless pay cash in person.

And if you make it the same from Browns plains shopping centre bus terminals the 140 or 150 city bus to go to the city centre or southbank which ever the bus actually stops.. How much will that be compare to the 153 bus from drewvale to city and return ?

Thanks.. I think ill prob need to top up my Go card alittle more.. i don't think 15.00 dollars will get me no where i don't think.


And in regards to the local bus drewvale to woodridge train station the beenleigh line to southbank... How much will all that even cost ? I think someone here told me the quickest way to get to the city was to catch the 547 at maquarie st drewvale to woodridge train station to go to southbank.... Maybe depends how fast this is compare to catch the bus at browns plains shopping centre city bus to southbank! Both could be compartibles if not maybe 5minutes diferents.

I could always top my Go card about 50.00 or 100.00 and hopefully that would last me a fair while... Its not like im catching buses everydays but some days of the day. Remember there is more then just 1 trip to get around one place to another to reach to that destination.

Simon Lovell

Far out.  TL;DR.  I would echo STB.  The journey planner has the answers to your questions.

STB

Quote from: jkillope on August 01, 2014, 09:55:37 AM
Quote from: SurfRail on July 31, 2014, 22:20:46 PM
Council buses are blue yellow and white, while the private operator buses are either TransLink green and white or have their own original livery - so Park Ridge's buses will either be green and white, or nearly all over white.

The 153 is a BCC route, the 547 is the Park Ridge route.

I have a GO card. Currently have aprox 15.00 dollars credit on it.  What number zone is it for drewvale for the bus 153 rocket to the city ? the city been zone 1 if not mistaken.  If so i wonder how much this will cost me on my go card from drewvale to the city. And im sure its the actual same price and zone going back to drewvale...    Getting off from near myer centre or southbank where ever the bus may actually stop or (stop(s)

And if i was to use my GO card from the local bus here the 547 lets say drewvale to browns plains shopping centre.  What zone is this and how much will it cost me on my Go card ? Unless pay cash in person.

And if you make it the same from Browns plains shopping centre bus terminals the 140 or 150 city bus to go to the city centre or southbank which ever the bus actually stops.. How much will that be compare to the 153 bus from drewvale to city and return ?

Thanks.. I think ill prob need to top up my Go card alittle more.. i don't think 15.00 dollars will get me no where i don't think.


And in regards to the local bus drewvale to woodridge train station the beenleigh line to southbank... How much will all that even cost ? I think someone here told me the quickest way to get to the city was to catch the 547 at maquarie st drewvale to woodridge train station to go to southbank.... Maybe depends how fast this is compare to catch the bus at browns plains shopping centre city bus to southbank! Both could be compartibles if not maybe 5minutes diferents.

I could always top my Go card about 50.00 or 100.00 and hopefully that would last me a fair while... Its not like im catching buses everydays but some days of the day. Remember there is more then just 1 trip to get around one place to another to reach to that destination.

Call 13 12 30 or go to www.translink.com.au and they will assist you with planning your trip.

jkillope

Thanks for the website people.

Question:  At woodrige train station.. To get off the trian from there and then catch a bus back to drewvale or browns plains grand plaza. Is there the only bus there the 547 that will take passangers to browns plains grand plaza ? So this means All passangers living that direction willing to go to grand plaza shopping centre must hope on the 547 and goes thru drewvale before it gets to grand plaza ? Or will passangers get a alternative bus that takes direct from woodrige train station straight to grand plaza without going thru drewvale suburb ?

Just curious about this one. Otherwise that 547 may as well be fully packed at times from shoppers leaving grand plaza to woodrige and back same way. if thats the only bus route that does that.

jkillope

I also forgot.. What company bus is the actual 547 bus ? brisbane city council or sunbus or logan bus ? And i presume the 153 rocket bus is simply just a brisbane city council bus if not mistaken.

I think someone told me this but i can't seem to find it in text. Sorry/

Thanks again people.

achiruel

Quote from: jkillope on August 03, 2014, 23:10:27 PM
Thanks for the website people.

Question:  At woodrige train station.. To get off the trian from there and then catch a bus back to drewvale or browns plains grand plaza. Is there the only bus there the 547 that will take passangers to browns plains grand plaza ? So this means All passangers living that direction willing to go to grand plaza shopping centre must hope on the 547 and goes thru drewvale before it gets to grand plaza ? Or will passangers get a alternative bus that takes direct from woodrige train station straight to grand plaza without going thru drewvale suburb ?

Just curious about this one. Otherwise that 547 may as well be fully packed at times from shoppers leaving grand plaza to woodrige and back same way. if thats the only bus route that does that.

The other route people may catch from Woodridge/Logan Central area to Browns Plains is the 545 which travels via Kingston Rd, Chambers Flat Rd & Browns Plains Rd.

It's a bit of a roundabout way compare to the 547 but it seems to attract more patronage (in my experience).

I'm not sure why this is - perhaps the 547 has not been well publicised in the local area?  Of course it could be simply that the 545 serves more destinations like Marsden Park shops etc where the 547 largely travels through bush between Woodridge and Drewvale.

nathandavid88

Quote from: achiruel on August 04, 2014, 21:09:35 PM

The other route people may catch from Woodridge/Logan Central area to Browns Plains is the 545 which travels via Kingston Rd, Chambers Flat Rd & Browns Plains Rd.

It's a bit of a roundabout way compare to the 547 but it seems to attract more patronage (in my experience).

I'm not sure why this is - perhaps the 547 has not been well publicised in the local area?  Of course it could be simply that the 545 serves more destinations like Marsden Park shops etc where the 547 largely travels through bush between Woodridge and Drewvale.

I put it down to the fact that it services more destinations. I travel on the 545, 550 and 560 myself fairly regularly and the one thing I notice of 95% of passengers on these services, is that they don't travel from end to end but get off part way through. For the 545, most people appear to be travelling between the main hubs of Browns Plains, Marsden, Kingston, Logan Central, Woodridge Station and Garden City, while on the 550 (especially) and 560, a lot of people get off in the residential areas of Marsden, Crestmead and Loganlea (and Kingston and Woodridge for the former and Meadowbrook for the later).

The 547 is a weird route as it has a very limited scope. It doesn't really do what the 545 does, as it only links Logan Central Station, Woodridge Station and Browns Plains, making it only suitable to a limited demographic, but the Drewvale residential area it goes through is very small and doesn't have nearly the catchment potential of routes like the 550. It's a good route to have, linking two major Logan centres, but I can't help but feel that it needs to travel further to earn its keep. Maybe add it as another bus link between Browns Plains and Springfield Central? I personally feel that there should be more links between Logan and Springfield for economic reasons, and having this one continue there, bypassing the Forest Lake and Carole Park areas that the existing 534 services, could be a good fit.

James

As far as I can see, the 547's scope is limited to being a coverage route going through anti-PT suburbia. Sure, its a nice direct link which saves 6 minutes in the off-peak and up to 15 minutes in peak, but the fact it runs hourly on weekdays/dies on weekends and generally has a 545 leaving a few minutes beforehand (in both directions) doesn't help its cause.
Is it really that hard to run frequent, reliable public transport?

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