PT expectations for 2012

[Mr X]

Following on from the best and worst moments in 2011, what can we expect to see in 2012?

- Sector 2 train line changes, 15mins off peak to Ferny Grove?
- new BUZes (hopefully 230/330/450?)
- northern busway
- more fare rises..
- more track closures...

[ozbob]

A green light for Cross River Rail ...

[#Metro]

Reintroduction of Coronation Drive Bus lane
Great Circle Line broken up - cut it up, get rid of it in it's current form!

Route 594 (Indooroopilly to Mitchelton via M5) replacing the GCL on this section
BUZ 230
BUZ 235
BUZ 400
BUZ 245 (Wynnum and Manly Roads)

any other BUZifications required to complete the Core Frequent Network (Bus)

Route 475 terminated at Wooloongabba busway (Ips road users can change to BUZ 100 now) and sent via the INB (Roma Street)
Route 470 sent via the INB
Route 476 abolished
Route 198 abolished, replace with 190 down to the Ferry via Ryan Street and Boundary Rds

15 Minute train frequency on FG Line AND Ipswich Line   (Hahaha I know everyone disagrees with me on Ips, but too bad).

Amalgamate stations that are too close together / no-body uses to speed up trains

That's about all I can think of at the moment. Maybe a small projects fund to get rid of single track as well.

[somebody]

I think this is an expectations thread, not a wish list!

I'd say deferral of the sector 2 timetables into 2013 or later.

[Fares_Fair]

Reintroduction of Coronation Drive Bus lane
Great Circle Line broken up - cut it up, get rid of it in it's current form!

Route 594 (Indooroopilly to Mitchelton via M5) replacing the GCL on this section
BUZ 230
BUZ 235
BUZ 400
BUZ 245 (Wynnum and Manly Roads)

any other BUZifications required to complete the Core Frequent Network (Bus)

Route 475 terminated at Wooloongabba busway (Ips road users can change to BUZ 100 now) and sent via the INB (Roma Street)
Route 470 sent via the INB
Route 476 abolished
Route 198 abolished, replace with 190 down to the Ferry via Ryan Street and Boundary Rds

15 Minute train frequency on FG Line AND Ipswich Line   (Hahaha I know everyone disagrees with me on Ips, but too bad).

Amalgamate stations that are too close together / no-body uses to speed up trains

That's about all I can think of at the moment. Maybe a small projects fund to get rid of single track as well.

As Charles Dickens once wrote .. 'Great expectations'   

[#Metro]

As Charles Dickens once wrote .. 'Great expectations'

Well given the little fact that the E.Busway cost $0.5 BILLION DOLLARS for 1 km to construct and is only used by 209 and 222 (of which 222 gives a ZERO increase in mobility, since that area was already served by 203/204/200 and 174/175) AND is going to, in the future, funnel more buses into a bottleneck that is Cultural Centre...

With that cash, the entire CFN (Bus) and Ips and FG TUZ services could have been funded with cash to spare.

[Golliwog]

Don't the eastern region services (250/270, etc) use it as well? They just don't stop.

[#Metro]

Don't the eastern region services (250/270, etc) use it as well? They just don't stop.

I think they do... I meant to say 'all day services' as I am thinking about all day mobility. Of course a bus that doesn't stop there doesn't improve mobility in that area,
and IMHO probably not worth $0.5 bn price tag. Yeah, that corner is congested, but that said you could implement a BUZ 200 solution which is simply to not run 250 and 270 through there, but just send it and all the rockets via Deshon Street and Wooloongabba.

[david]

Talking of which:

Review all bus services through Cultural Centre!!!

[Gazza]

Review all bus services

[SurfRail]

Review ALL the services!

[BrizCommuter]

I think this is an expectations thread, not a wish list!

I'd say deferral of the sector 2 timetables into 2013 or later.

BrizCommuter will be surprised if we see the phase 2 timetables this financial year (despite being in TransLink's network plan for this financial year). BrizCommuter is not expecting any more 15 min off-peak services, which is quite frankly disgraceful.

[Cam]

1) The incoming LNP government:

a) Defers CRR indefinitely & begins to waste considerable money on a band aid solution

b) Doesn't reverse the 15% increase in fares & hold future increases to inflation

2) Phase 2 timetables:

a) do not include any increases in off peak frequencies

b) include more added padding

[HappyTrainGuy]

More world class paint.

[#Metro]

Negative expectations for 2012:

* No improvements to train frequency (money spent on 'self-denial' media releases emphasisng reliability rather than frequency, cos ya know its on time even though its 30 minutes wait!)

* More time wasted delaying CRR, band-aid solution

* Trains slowed down even further (called 'optimisation' and 'improvement')

* No new off-peak train services on any lines (so that we don't threaten our place in Guinness World Records as worst train frequency in a developed world city)

* More denial on practical peak busway capacity

* Incoming gov't will rip up Connecting SEQ and we will be back at square one on a new transport plan, with focus on ashphalt and four wheels

* Loads of Future-Faking and Fast Forwarding (Future Faking = glossy documents and media releases that mask inaction, big costly megaprojects that will never
ever be built like HSR to the Gold Coast)

* More plans for concrete infrastructure that are predicated on funding that is shaky and improbable at least.

* Money for Eastern Busway- they should forget about that in its current form and focus on fixing the core at Cultural Centre etc before proceeding. No point building busway and then finding out that there is no core capacity left to take all the new buses and induced travel.

* Goal posts on the statistics massaged and moved so that they are insensitive to actual customer experiences and we just end up using metrics that only are capable of showing good data ('smiley statistics').

[Stillwater]

More world class brochures and video representations of how the network will look in 2031 -- academy award-winning first class stuff.

[Fares_Fair]

More world class brochures and video representations of how the network will look in 2031 -- academy award-winning first class stuff.

and more great media stories ... will Santa return next year, can even he afford the new 15% fare hikes?
I intend updating my motor vehicle analysis (did it elsewhere here somewhere) over the holidays under the new fare prices using our cars real life data for the last 12 months.

Stay tuned in 2012.

Regards,
Fares-Fair.

[petey3801]

Campbell Newman promising the world for Transport then, when in office, stating "the financial situation is a lot worse than Labor said it was, we can't do xxyy".

But, i guess, that's a given! :p

[HappyTrainGuy]

More world class brochures and video representations of how the network will look in 2031 -- academy award-winning first class stuff.

World class CGI.

[#Metro]

Connecting SEQ 2031 has high levels of future faking inside it. Like we would need UNPRECEDENTED levels of funding sustained every year for the next 20 years to get this happening. Lots of hints for cash supply coming from the ATM Infrastructure Australia.

I read the 1997 document, and I can't recall any 'urban greenways' implemented.

[SurfRail]

A person at TransLink I was conversing with today made the very cogent point that there is a Queensland Infrastructure Plan, but absolutely nothing in the way of a plan for services.  (The TransLink Network Plan is neither a plan nor does it relate to a network!)

[Stillwater]

If only Translink would make this bit of the Network Plan work:

"Working with the community In the past 12 months TransLink has been working closely with our delivery partners to create a customer-first culture across all aspects of public transport. We have been active in
engaging with our customers in the community through regional stakeholder meetings and the TransLink Consumer Reference Group.

"In 2011–12, we will continue to engage with the community through the new jointly operated Public Transport Advisory Group, with the Department of Transport and MainRoads and Queensland Rail.

"Customers can continue to provide feedback through the TransLink website, translink.com.au,
or by calling the Call Centre on 13 12 30."

[#Metro]

A person at TransLink I was conversing with today made the very cogent point that there is a Queensland Infrastructure Plan, but absolutely nothing in the way of a plan for services.  (The TransLink Network Plan is neither a plan nor does it relate to a network!)

There seems to be this awful myth that that "more concrete is always the answer" hence we have situations where we spend $500 million dollars on 1km of busway
when, if you wanted buses to go faster through that section, you could have just routed them via Deshon Street.

I can't actually say that in public can I? LOL!

There are infrastructure-level improvements
and there are service-level improvements.

You know what we can do with $500 million big ones, every BUZ you ever dreamed of plus some could be put on!
The entire CFN on bus and probably rail too could be complete by now.

I really hope they re-think the Eastern Busway. What's the point of building it and inducing huge volumes of bus traffic when you haven't sorted out issues like "where are all thes extra buses going to go when it reaches Cultural Centre?" and "where are they all going to layover when they reach the CBD".

[mufreight]

More world class brochures and video representations of how the network will look in 2031 -- academy award-winning first class stuff.

Unfortunately this bumpf with its glossy paper is not fit for purpose for its most logical recycling use and also is insufficently solubile for use in a septic system.
Now if they put the funds expended on this WORLD CLASS POLITICAL propoganda into providing public transport services instead of resolving statewide infrastructure constipation.