Started by dwb, November 12, 2011, 08:30:04 AM
QuoteGold Coast awarded right to host Commonwealth Games in 2018BY: JARED OWENS From: The Australian November 12, 2011 9:06AMThe Gold Coast has won the right to host the 2018 Commonwealth Games, beating Sri Lanka's Hambantota.QUEENSLAND'S Gold Coast has won the rights to host the 2018 Commonwealth Games - and the $1.1bn debt that comes with it - with a solid victory over a tsunami-ravaged port in Sri Lanka.The Gold Coast was hot favourite to out-muscle Hambantota and is counting on using the Games to restore lustre to an image battered by downturns in tourism and property and the wrong kind of publicity about its crime rate.Premier Anna Bligh is also keen for a win as she gears up for a state election due early next year that is odds-on to deliver a change of government.When the result was announced, Ms Bligh threw her arms into the air and cried out with joy."It's been a very very close vote and there's a good choice we weren't going to make it. We had seven rehearsals, we've had 15 meetings, we've lobbied everybody, there hasn't been much sleep," the blushing premier said immediately after the announcement."I'm so proud of this team, I'm so proud of the Gold Coast, I'm so proud of being a Queenslander tonight."A meeting of the 71 Commonwealth nations on the Caribbean Island of St Kitts this morning was decided by a vote of 43 to 27 in the Gold Coast's favour.A close vote was anticipated after 11th-hour lobbying by Sri Lanka including an impassioned address by President Mahinda Rajapaksa on the sidelines of last month's Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting in Perth.SportsBet was last night paying $1.50 on a Gold Coast win, compared with $2.50 for Hambantota.As taxpayers are to foot 56 per cent of the Gold Coast games' proposed $1.97bn budget, plus any overruns, questions are being asked as to whether the economic benefits outweigh the cost.RMIT University sports economist Mark Stewart said extensive research on major sporting events, including the Sydney Olympics, showed such spectacles "very rarely" reaped economic benefits across a whole economy."So why do cities bid for them? There is research that shows major events result in a great amount of happiness, so politicians are probably seizing on this potential for their political ends," Mr Stewart said.Ms Bligh has touted the games as a "once-in-a-generation opportunity" to transform the Gold Coast, citing the 1982 Brisbane Commonwealth Games. That event -- remembered for swimmer Tracey Wickham, marathon runner Robert de Castella and Matilda the winking kangaroo -- left Queenslanders "assets" such as the 49,000-capacity QEII Stadium, which once hosted the Brisbane Broncos but now caters mostly to school carnivals and audience-free training sessions.This week, the stadium was so eerily quiet that Griffith University students such as Racheal Watt sat their yearly exams in the venues' function rooms."The government keeps saying it doesn't have enough money for more hospital beds and more nurses, but that's what we need and that's where the money should be going instead," said the 22-year-old trainee nurse. "I've only ever been here for school athletics and exams, so it's not being used for what it was built for."Jim Soorley, Brisbane's lord mayor from 1991 to 2003, said his administration "spent millions of dollars propping up and maintaining old, depreciating Commonwealth Games facilities" until the state government "thankfully" had assumed liability for the venues. "The Commonwealth Games are archaic. They're a relic of the past with absolutely no significance nowadays. That there are only two cities bidding for the event proves that."Stadiums Queensland's Cobey Moore said it was unfair to judge QEII's worth by 1982 standards, saying its purpose had now changed to a community venue.Queensland Treasury was unable to say when, or if, the 1982 games debt was actually paid off, due to the passage of time and changes in accounting practices.Hambantota's budget anticipated a spend of only $652m, with Sri Lankan authorities subsidising 66 per cent of the proposed cost.The Gold Coast will be the fifth Australian city and the first of our regional cities to host the games. Sydney was the first to have that honour, hosting the then British Empire Games in 1938, followed by Perth (in 1962), Brisbane (1982) and Melbourne (2006).
Quote from: jouzocha on November 12, 2011, 09:42:20 AMLet's hope this fast-tracks both the light rail and the heavy rail extension to Coolangatta Airport!
Quote from: O_128 on November 12, 2011, 10:02:28 AMQuote from: jouzocha on November 12, 2011, 09:42:20 AMLet's hope this fast-tracks both the light rail and the heavy rail extension to Coolangatta Airport! My lists would be1. Light rail to helensvale2. light rail to coolongattta3. Coomera - helensvale duplication No point putting heavy to the airport as CRR won't be ready.
Quote from: BrizCommuter on November 12, 2011, 11:14:23 AMhttp://brizcommuter.blogspot.com/2011/11/gold-coast-gets-commonwealth-games-what.htmlSo it is possible to win a games bid with half-baked public transport!
Quote from: SurfRail on November 12, 2011, 15:20:17 PMQuote from: BrizCommuter on November 12, 2011, 11:14:23 AMhttp://brizcommuter.blogspot.com/2011/11/gold-coast-gets-commonwealth-games-what.htmlSo it is possible to win a games bid with half-baked public transport!you really do come off as an enormous dropkick at times
QuoteCapital achievement for a city that has come a long way in half a centuryEllen LuttonNovember 13, 2011FIFTY years ago, the Gold Coast had only just been named a city. Still in the infancy of glitter strip status, much of the Gold Coast remained untouched; it was a quiet oceanside idyll popular with surfers and holidaymakers.The Coast's first high-rise was only two years old. Canal estates and land subdivisions were beginning to emerge and the the commute from Brisbane was made along a single-lane highway.By the time Brisbane hosted the Commonwealth Games in 1982, Coolangatta Airport had opened, Japanese property investors had moved in and the Gold Coast had become synonymous with towering high-rises and theme parks.Advertisement: Story continues belowAs the population neared 156,000, it became a firm favourite as Australia's family holiday destination.Today, it still stands as a holiday favourite but on a much larger scale.Having experienced rapid growth over recent decades, it is now the sixth-largest city in Australia, with more than half-a-million people calling the Gold Coast home. It has its own rugby league, AFL, football and basketball teams, universities and a world-class hospital.A light rail is being constructed down the middle of the Gold Coast highway. An expansion of the heavy rail to Gold Coast Airport and prioritised funding for a light rail link from Helensvale Railway Station connecting with the existing rapid transit are just some of the big-ticket items that community leaders are hoping to gain now that the Commonwealth Games bid has succeeded.The high-rises keep getting bigger and better - a brand new Hilton Hotel has just opened at Surfers Paradise and luxury brand Peppers is now at Broadbeach.It has been a busy 50 years for the Gold Coast, during which time it has matured from a popular oceanfront holiday destination to a bustling and cosmopolitan metropolis, now destined to be the first non-capital city in Australia to host the Commonwealth Games.Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/capital-achievement-for-a-city-that-has-come-a-long-way-in-half-a-century-20111112-1nd97.html
Quote from: dwb on November 12, 2011, 17:28:18 PMQuote from: SurfRail on November 12, 2011, 15:20:17 PMQuote from: BrizCommuter on November 12, 2011, 11:14:23 AMhttp://brizcommuter.blogspot.com/2011/11/gold-coast-gets-commonwealth-games-what.htmlSo it is possible to win a games bid with half-baked public transport!you really do come off as an enormous dropkick at timesI barely bother to read the blog anymore
Quote from: BrizCommuter on November 13, 2011, 12:36:28 PMQuote from: dwb on November 12, 2011, 17:28:18 PMQuote from: SurfRail on November 12, 2011, 15:20:17 PMQuote from: BrizCommuter on November 12, 2011, 11:14:23 AMhttp://brizcommuter.blogspot.com/2011/11/gold-coast-gets-commonwealth-games-what.htmlSo it is possible to win a games bid with half-baked public transport!you really do come off as an enormous dropkick at timesI barely bother to read the blog anymoreThat's OK, BrizCommuter still has 4,999 other readers.
Quote from: colinw on November 13, 2011, 15:02:25 PMOh come on! This negativity is not doing anyone any good, and reflects badly on this site in my opinion. Surest way to make the decision makers "switch off" and disregard us as a bunch of whiny tossers.Light rail to the Metricon stadium at Carrara is NOT going to happen, and would be a complete white elephant other than for the 2 weeks of the games if it did.As for heavy rail, it goes to one of the stadiums to be used (Skilled Park at Robina), there is a convenient bus interchange for Carrara at Nerang (which will obviously need upgrading).Remember that the '82 games in Brisbane went off just fine with a rail network that was only electrified on two corridors (Ipswich - Ferny Grove, 3 years young at the time, and Kingston - Shorncliffe just barely opened). The main stadium at Nathan was serviced by buses from BANOON station, fed by electric trains which had only been extended to Kingston just before the games. The Beenleigh, Petrie/Caboolture, Doomben, Rosewood, Nambour and Thorneside electrifications were still years in the future, as were the rebuilds of the lines to Gold Coast & Cleveland. The airport had little public transport other than an infrequent diesel train to Pinkenba. But Brisbane coped! In comparison, the Gold Coast will be in much better shape with a decent heavy rail line, light rail in the densest core, and (hopefully) a link to Helensvale open.What I expect of the in time for the games:1. Light rail extended to Helensvale, and potentially further to the south as well (actually more useful to the coast than the Helensvale extension).2. High frequency, high standard light rail services on the core light rail route 24/7.3. Several BUZ standard high frequency bus routes on the Gold Coast, including to the Airport.4. Well co-ordinated high frequency bus services joining the heavy rail, light rail & Gold Coast airport with all major games venues.5. Airtrain operating from before 5AM to midnight.What I do not expect in time for the games:1. CRR completed (would be nice, but the Gold Coast line runs fine without it. CRR is more about improving the Beenleigh line & eventually building Flagstone).2. Light rail all the way to Coolangatta.3. Heavy rail all the way to Gold Coast airport (but Elanora would be nice!)If the funds for one of the big extensions does become available in time for the games, I vote light rail to Coolangatta via the Gold Coast airport. That would be a fine legacy from the games.
Quote from: ozbob on November 13, 2011, 15:46:26 PMHeaven and earth should be moved now to get the light rail from Helensvale to Burleigh Heads now. There is economy of scale. The section from Helensvale to GU will be a lot easier than the rest further south. Having that direct connectivity to the rail at Helensvale will be a great boon. South to Burleigh Heads will also work very well for those on the coast.
QuoteConsideration could also be given to duplicating the final single track section at Coomera.
QuotePlea to tackle Coast's traffic woes before Commonwealth GamesMarissa CalligerosNovember 14, 2011 - 7:42AMThe Gold Coast celebrated on the weekend after the city won its bid to host the 2018 Commonwealth Games, but locals already have concerns about the event's main arena.Carrara's Metricon Stadium has been billed as the games' main stadium, however residents have complained about increasing traffic congestion near the site.A petition, recently tabled in parliament by Mermaid Beach MP Ray Stevens, has called on the state government to improve congestion along Nerang-Broadbeach Road to a roundabout at Gooding Drive.The residents have also urged the government to shelve any plans to divert public transport buses off Nerang-Broadbeach Road onto suburban streets.Mr Stevens said traffic congestion on the Gold Coast, which in his opinion was being compounded by unsuitable roundabouts at major intersections, needed to be properly addressed in preparation for the Commonwealth Games."I'm hoping that with the Commonwealth Games, [the government] will recognise that the roundabout itself has to be fixed up, rather than putting in a rat run solution," the LNP said."[Residents] are looking for answers to the traffic situation right across the Gold Coast."For years, all levels of government have lauded the wonderful growth of the Gold Coast population and have yet not adequately funded the upgrade of infrastructure."He said the roundabout on Nerang-Broadbeach Road was one of the many road problems to be resolved on the Coast, where traffic was increasing by more than four per cent each year.Mr Stevens said the Gold Coast's light rail line, due to be completed by 2014, would only go part of the way in alleviating the problem.In a written response to the petition, Minister for Main Roads Craig Wallace said re-routing buses along residential streets in Broadbeach Waters and Carrara was being considered as part of the proposed transport infrastructure improvements for Nerang-Broadbeach Road.He said the 396 petitioners' concerns had been noted."The department has advised that design options for all other stages are still being analysed and are subject to change," he said.Metricon stadium is due to stage the opening and closing ceremonies and athletics sports during the 2018 Commonwealth Games. Its capacity will be increased from 25,000 to 40,000 seats.Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/plea-to-tackle-coasts-traffic-woes-before-commonwealth-games-20111114-1ne9y.html
QuoteCongratulations to the Gold Coast on winning the chance to host this auspicious event, the Commonwealth Games in 2018. It is fantastic news for the Gold Coast and surrounds.On the flip side it is crushing news for the Sunshine Coast, which will probably be left to wallow in a heavy rail public transport backwater for possibly another 6 years,as it's priority slips further down the chain (insert flush sound here).What ever tourist hardy enough to attempt to get from the Gold Coast to the Sunshine Coast will be few and far between, especially if they attempt it by rail.Regards,Fares_Fair.
Quote from: Set in train on November 15, 2011, 14:06:01 PMI agree, extend the light rail to connect with heavy rail, but would like to see an addition to the 'milk run' of Olsen Av, Harbourtown and west along GC Hwy.The original plan was to run west on Smith St to the railway and beside it to Helensvale.If PT is to be a viable option to car use, this is the route.Yes, we need to consider catchment areas, trip generators etc, but think of the potential growth if there was a 90 km/h light rail service from Helensvale, down along Smith St, entering the rest of network.This would be a fantastic way to take strain off road use. If buses could be replaced, it would give more incentive for people from Brisbane to use the train for day trips as a fast, reliable and easy to understand method.
Quote from: Set in train on November 15, 2011, 14:06:01 PMThis would be a fantastic way to take strain off road use. If buses could be replaced, it would give more incentive for people from Brisbane to use the train for day trips as a fast, reliable and easy to understand method.
Quote from: SurfRail on November 15, 2011, 22:14:29 PMArgh. The Gold Coast is not just Byron Bay and GCRT is not just about making it easier to visit on the weekend - we are actually a city down here you know, with local travel demand and needs. Long distance travellers would be the least of my priorities when designing a rapid transit network for a city. Even local people have difficulty grasping this.
Quote from: dwb on November 16, 2011, 07:58:03 AMQuote from: SurfRail on November 15, 2011, 22:14:29 PMArgh. The Gold Coast is not just Byron Bay and GCRT is not just about making it easier to visit on the weekend - we are actually a city down here you know, with local travel demand and needs. Long distance travellers would be the least of my priorities when designing a rapid transit network for a city. Even local people have difficulty grasping this.GCRT is a part of a regional network, not just a local network. The GCRT therefore needs to accommodate travellers from the GC local network transfering to the regional network and vice versa, and not using a third mode in between!Just look at what Airtrain is already selling - they understand NETWORK is important. I'm sure you do to, and just got a bee in your bonnet from assuming that comment was about only building GCRT for connection to Brisbane which it is clearly not about. But still, you can't deny the need for it to connect into the regional network. Right now it is very difficult to use the train from Brisbane to access the beaches - the last time I did it (and will ever do it until the light rail connects) it took me 5 hours to get home!
Quote from: SurfRail on November 16, 2011, 09:17:56 AMI'm not objecting to that. The connection at Helensvale is needed, but it needs to go via Harbour Town for maximum benefit. I am more interested in how people can get around the Gold Coast than how easy it is to leave.
Quote from: dwb on November 16, 2011, 07:58:03 AMthe last time I did it (and will ever do it until the light rail connects) it took me 5 hours to get home!
Quote from: Gazza on November 16, 2011, 10:29:05 AMWould it be a shuttle? Or would frequency be lower on both branches?
Quote from: Simon on November 16, 2011, 10:54:26 AMQuote from: dwb on November 16, 2011, 07:58:03 AMthe last time I did it (and will ever do it until the light rail connects) it took me 5 hours to get home!How is that possible? The feeders all operate at least hourly until they stop running, unless I'm missing something.
Quote from: dwb on November 17, 2011, 18:33:41 PMQuote from: Simon on November 16, 2011, 10:54:26 AMQuote from: dwb on November 16, 2011, 07:58:03 AMthe last time I did it (and will ever do it until the light rail connects) it took me 5 hours to get home!How is that possible? The feeders all operate at least hourly until they stop running, unless I'm missing something.A good question Simon and I think the answer, thanks to Translink QR is "a comedy of errors"... however I was NOT laughing
Quote from: AnonymouslyBad on November 18, 2011, 16:14:39 PMIf there were going to be an additional branch on the light rail, I'd link it to Nerang or possibly even Robina instead of Helensvale. That would provide a quicker and more direct link to the main strip, which is presumably where most train passengers want to go. The buses currently in place are evidence of this with Nerang being the most popular spot for train-coast connections. Having a branch line along here would also provide service to areas which otherwise wouldn't get light rail at all.
QuoteThe key thing is bus interchange, to the point where the planners have confirmed that the business case will not stack up if that is not implemented properly (which is a pretty bloody good incentive to making it work). A route the length of the coast enables this eg hubbing Paradise Point/Runaway Bay buses to Harbour Town, Elanora area buses at Palm Beach etc. This is more challenging to do if you don't anchor the LRT route at the ends, and face it – what is in Nerang?
QuoteAs for Carrara Stadium - it will be easier and cheaper to get 2-300 buses from interstate to transport people to Carrara at peak times. The rest of the network will need to focus on getting people around the other venues, most of which are "on the way".
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