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Started by ozbob, August 12, 2006, 08:59:05 AM

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Couriermail Quest --> Name for the Moreton Bay Rail Link revealed

QuoteIT HAS been more than 100 years in the making, now a soon-to-be-opening train line north of Brisbane has a name.

Much has been said in recent months about that the Moreton Bay Rail Link should be called with all sorts of entertaining suggestions being made by locals — including Trainy McTrainface, made popular by a failed UK ship-naming campaign, and About Time Line because it has taken so long to build.

A questnews.com.au poll revealed 41 per cent of those who voted wanted "Redcliffe line", with "Moreton Bay Line" and Kippa-Ring Line" second and third.

State Labor MP for Petrie Yvette D'Ath has this afternoon revealed it will be called the Redcliffe Peninsula Line — recognising the long wait Redcliffe residents have had for the service.

Ms D'Ath thanked residents for their suggestions in recent months, but said she was thrilled with the choice.

"The people of Redcliffe have waited more than 100 years for this line and I couldn't be happier that it will be named the Redcliffe Peninsula Line," she said.

"I had a lot of input (in the decision) which has been wonderful. I'm very appreciative of the involvement in the process. I was particularly firm in Redcliffe being part of the name."

Moreton Bay Regional Council Mayor Allan Sutherland welcomed the announcement the new line would formally recognise the Moreton Bay Region's historic past.

"More than 34 per cent of our region's residents will, for the first time ever, be connected to a fast, reliable rail line linking our local suburbs via new stations at Kippa-Ring, Rothwell, Mango Hill, Mango Hill East, Murrumba Downs and Kallangur," Cr Sutherland said.

"I'm looking forward to the official opening and I know everyone will get on-board with the region's new train line".

The Redcliffe Peninsula Line will open with a community day on October 3. Normal services will start on October 4.
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STB

Urgh, this is why naming shouldn't be left with the public (hello Boggo Road/Park Road), Kippa Ring Line would've made perfect sense and kept all the general naming conventions as occurs already on the rest of the network (exception to Sunshine Coast line and Gold Coast line which arguably are separate distinct regions to the greater Brisbane area anyway).

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STB

Quote from: SurfRail on September 02, 2016, 15:24:27 PM
^ Arguably?

Give it another 30-40 years IMO and we'll all be one big happy family!  Aka, you'll be a part of Brisbane whether you like it or not!  :P

tazzer9

Names that are better than Redcliffe Peninsula line:
Kippa ring line, redcliffe line, Moreton bay line, North east line, peninsula line, anzac line.  I can go on.

tazzer9

Does QLD not have an equivalent to the NSW geographical names board?

SurfRail

Quote from: STB on September 02, 2016, 15:25:43 PM
Quote from: SurfRail on September 02, 2016, 15:24:27 PM
^ Arguably?

Give it another 30-40 years IMO and we'll all be one big happy family!  Aka, you'll be a part of Brisbane whether you like it or not!  :P

Not gonna happen... the interurban gap at Pimpama might only be 2km wide, but in other respects the gulf in unbridgeable.

South-East Queensland, yes.  Definitely not Brisbane.
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Quote from: tazzer9 on September 02, 2016, 15:28:52 PM
Does QLD not have an equivalent to the NSW geographical names board?

Place names are handled by DNRM.  Part of the legislation update I get every week usually features minor changes to boundaries, names etc. 

https://www.qld.gov.au/environment/land/place-names/naming/history/
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STB

Quote from: SurfRail on September 02, 2016, 15:31:31 PM
Quote from: STB on September 02, 2016, 15:25:43 PM
Quote from: SurfRail on September 02, 2016, 15:24:27 PM
^ Arguably?

Give it another 30-40 years IMO and we'll all be one big happy family!  Aka, you'll be a part of Brisbane whether you like it or not!  :P

Not gonna happen... the interurban gap at Pimpama might only be 2km wide, but in other respects the gulf in unbridgeable.

South-East Queensland, yes.  Definitely not Brisbane.

You know I was been cheeky and not serious when I said that right...?  :o ::)

ozbob

I am starting a movement to rename the Springfield line the ' Ripley Valley ' line ..

Y'all with me?   :P :-w :hc :hc

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tazzer9

Quote from: ozbob on September 02, 2016, 16:01:53 PM
I am starting a movement to rename the Springfield line the ' Ripley Valley ' line ..

Can renaming the cleveland line to redland bay line, and the shorncliffe line to the Bramble Bay line be included in that movement. 
(Bramble Bay line has a nice ring to it)

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STB

Quote from: tazzer9 on September 02, 2016, 16:08:06 PM
Quote from: ozbob on September 02, 2016, 16:01:53 PM
I am starting a movement to rename the Springfield line the ' Ripley Valley ' line ..

Can renaming the cleveland line to redland bay line, and the shorncliffe line to the Bramble Bay line be included in that movement. 
(Bramble Bay line has a nice ring to it)

Redland Bay Line would be misleading, due to the fact that we actually have a suburb called 'Redland Bay' in the Redlands.  (from a resident of that area of 20+ years - although no longer).

ozbob

No one is really serious STB ..   ;)

I suppose the fact that the political push feels comfortable with ' Redcliffe Peninsular Line ' is at least going some way to hide the failure to actually build the railway to Redcliffe.  Colloquially the line will be known as Kippa-Ring.
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tazzer9

The Redcliffe peninsula is in the suburb of redcliffe, which has no railway line in it.   Didn't stop the eggheads in the QLD government.

James

"Redcliffe Peninsular Line"... it just rolls off the tongue! :P :fp:

We cannot even get the basics right here in Queensland, can we? Logic would dictate that it would be called the Kippa-Ring line, but anyway. Perhaps this is the ALP's 'Segway moment'? :-r
Is it really that hard to run frequent, reliable public transport?

#Metro

It doesn't go to Redcliffe!

I guess that they were trying to get an effect similar to "Gold Coast Line, Sunshine Coast Line".
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ozbob

Visitor: " Can I get a train to Redcliffe "

TransLink phone robot: " No "

Visitor: "  Well where in the fuk does the Redcliffe Peninsular Line go ?  "

TransLink phone robot: " Kippa-Ring "

Visitor: " Oh ...  "

TransLink phone robot: " The railway was promised to be built to Redcliffe for a 100 years or more, so we all pretend that it goes to Redcliffe when it doesn't really.  You understand? "

Visitor: " No ... I don't really.  But I was warned about Queensland -  bananas affect the mind they tell me.  Is that true? "

TransLink phone robot: " Time expired.  Call 131230 anytime. "

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Quote from: ozbob on September 02, 2016, 17:16:06 PM
Visitor: " Can I get a train to Redcliffe "

TransLink phone robot: " No "

Visitor: "  Well where in the fuk does the Redcliffe Peninsular Line go ?  "

TransLink phone robot: " Kippa-Ring "

Visitor: " Oh ...  "

TransLink phone robot: " The railway was promised to be built to Redcliffe for a 100 years or more, so we all pretend that it goes to Redcliffe when it doesn't really.  You understand? "

Visitor: " No ... I don't really.  But I was warned about Queensland -  bananas affect the mind they tell me.  Is that true? "

TransLink phone robot: " Time expired.  Call 131230 anytime. "

:bna: :bna: :bna:

I'm wondering how the heck they explain that to visitors that the one combined busway and railway station has two different names (Boggo Road/Park Road), while at Roma Street the combined busway station and railway station is called simply Roma Street station!  :fp:

STB

Quote from: ozbob on September 02, 2016, 16:31:55 PM
No one is really serious STB ..   ;)

I suppose the fact that the political push feels comfortable with ' Redcliffe Peninsular Line ' is at least going some way to hide the failure to actually build the railway to Redcliffe.  Colloquially the line will be known as Kippa-Ring.

Oh thank goodness!  8) ;D

tazzer9

Quote from: LD Transit on September 02, 2016, 17:11:05 PM
It doesn't go to Redcliffe!

I guess that they were trying to get an effect similar to "Gold Coast Line, Sunshine Coast Line".

Gold Coast line is being continually extended, so that makes sense.
Sunshine coast line has two termini, so they call it that to avoid confusion. No point calling it the Gympie North line when only two services a day end up there.

aldonius

And this, folks, is why on every fantasy map I make, lines are both consistently paired and named for their endpoints.

nathandavid88

Quote from: tazzer9 on September 02, 2016, 16:33:18 PM
The Redcliffe peninsula is in the suburb of redcliffe, which has no railway line in it.   Didn't stop the eggheads in the QLD government.

Actually, that is incorrect. It is the reverse that is true – the suburb of Redcliffe is located on the Redcliffe Peninsula, together with the suburbs of Scarborough, Margate, Woody Point, Clontarf, Newport, Kippa-Ring and Rothwell (at least in part). While the line doesn't reach the suburb of Redcliffe, it does technically reach the Redcliffe Peninsula.

https://www.moretonbay.qld.gov.au/uploadedFiles/moretonbay/discover/maps/Redcliffe-Map.pdf

And just for the record, the public poll that the Courier Mail/Quest story is relating to is just one which the paper ran itself. There was no official poll, as far as I know.


SurfRail

Quote from: STB on September 02, 2016, 15:53:59 PM
Quote from: SurfRail on September 02, 2016, 15:31:31 PM
Quote from: STB on September 02, 2016, 15:25:43 PM
Quote from: SurfRail on September 02, 2016, 15:24:27 PM
^ Arguably?

Give it another 30-40 years IMO and we'll all be one big happy family!  Aka, you'll be a part of Brisbane whether you like it or not!  :P

Not gonna happen... the interurban gap at Pimpama might only be 2km wide, but in other respects the gulf in unbridgeable.

South-East Queensland, yes.  Definitely not Brisbane.

You know I was been cheeky and not serious when I said that right...?  :o ::)

Yep - just joshing.  :bna:
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Stillwater

So, now the Gympielander ends its journey at the Cooloola Line terminus?   :bna:  :is-

HappyTrainGuy

Hahahahaha. sh%t I'm going to love it the first time when I see that thing programmed into the EMU's. As it is 'Brisbane Airport' just fits in and you can hardly read the damn thing.

Otto

Quote from: BrizCommuter on September 02, 2016, 20:17:50 PM
BrizCommuter has renamed the rest of QR's train lines:
http://brizcommuter.blogspot.com.au/2016/09/redcliffe-peninsula-line-very-posh.html
I would have thought the Cleveland Line could have been renamed the Straddie Flyer Line.. After all, a train has already tried to fly that extra bit to Straddie.    :lo  :pfy:
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Quote from: BrizCommuter on September 02, 2016, 20:17:50 PM
BrizCommuter has renamed the rest of QR's train lines:
http://brizcommuter.blogspot.com.au/2016/09/redcliffe-peninsula-line-very-posh.html

May I suggest that the Beenleigh Line could be called the Orient Trundle instead, as it passes through some of the more multicultural parts of Brisbane (Moorooka, Sunnybank and Logan). Given the 1890's alignment and slow service speed, it'd be inappropriate to call it the Orient Express!

The poor Springfield Line has also been forgotten - perhaps it could be called the Simpsons Line? Ripley Valley Scenic Railway?
Is it really that hard to run frequent, reliable public transport?

ozbob

Quote from: ozbob on September 02, 2016, 16:01:53 PM
I am starting a movement to rename the Springfield line the ' Ripley Valley ' line ..

Y'all with me?   :P :-w :hc :hc



James, are you with us?   :P

Back to sanity, I would hope that the train destos actually display ' Kippa-Ring ' ...  when actually not heading to Redcliffe itself hey?
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Gazza

I don't think the "Redcliffe Peninsula" line is entirely awful as a name.... Would have preferred Kippa Ring for consistency....but i can live with the desicion.

At least it wasn't called the MB line or the plain "Redcliffe" line.

#Metro

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Stillwater

Folks, the name is too long for destination displays.  ....... Quickly it will become known as the Red. Pen. Line.

Gazza

How many characters can it fit? Wont it just cycle like When it says "Brisbane...... Airport"

CABOOLTURE seems to be longer than
REDCLIFFE
PENINSULA

red dragin

Quote from: Stillwater on September 03, 2016, 07:54:55 AM
Folks, the name is too long for destination displays.  ....... Quickly it will become known as the Red. Pen. Line.

Appropriate considering how the red pen was used to cross out the bit that said "use Qld Rail to build"  and "use compatible signalling components"   :P

SurfRail

Quote from: HappyTrainGuy on September 02, 2016, 23:36:25 PM
Hahahahaha. sh%t I'm going to love it the first time when I see that thing programmed into the EMU's. As it is 'Brisbane Airport' just fits in and you can hardly read the damn thing.

It'll be Kippa-Ring, just like since EMU01 was delivered in the 70s!
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Quote from: Stillwater on September 03, 2016, 07:54:55 AM
Folks, the name is too long for destination displays.  ....... Quickly it will become known as the Red. Pen. Line.

They use Springfield and Nambour instead of Springfield Central and Sunshine Coast.  It will be Kippa-Ring no doubt.

Gold Coast and BNE are different - nobody knows where Varsity Lakes is, and the airport has to be distinguished from other airports.  The only display that has trouble with "Brisbane Airport" is the Hanover type fitted to the EMUs, which won't be around in 3 years anyway.
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Quote from: SurfRail on September 03, 2016, 08:31:01 AM
Quote from: HappyTrainGuy on September 02, 2016, 23:36:25 PM
Hahahahaha. sh%t I'm going to love it the first time when I see that thing programmed into the EMU's. As it is 'Brisbane Airport' just fits in and you can hardly read the damn thing.

It'll be Kippa-Ring, just like since EMU01 was delivered in the 70s!

;)

Golliwog

Quote from: Gazza on September 03, 2016, 04:11:27 AM
I don't think the "Redcliffe Peninsula" line is entirely awful as a name.... Would have preferred Kippa Ring for consistency....but i can live with the desicion.

At least it wasn't called the MB line or the plain "Redcliffe" line.
Calling it the Redcliffe Line wouldn't be the worst, if you go back pre-amalgamation, Redcliffe Council was from Rothwell out or something? It would at least roll of the tongue easier than Redcliffe Peninsula Line!
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tazzer9

Quote from: Gazza on September 03, 2016, 08:05:46 AM
How many characters can it fit? Wont it just cycle like When it says "Brisbane...... Airport"

CABOOLTURE seems to be longer than
REDCLIFFE
PENINSULA

Brisbane Airport fits on the EMU's desto.   It looks so strange

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