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Redcliffe Peninsula Line [was MBRL (Petrie to Kippa Ring)]

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red dragin

Quote from: ozbob on November 12, 2015, 13:01:37 PM
Quote from: red dragin on November 03, 2015, 13:20:02 PM
Buy a house in Camarsh Drive they said. They'll never build that railway, you always have lovely park views they said.  ;D

Must be such a contrast having the sound barrier as a back fence compared to all that parkland.

Couriermail Quest 11th November 2015 page 11

Residents not happy with station lighting



They are very brightly lit, to deter the unwelcome guests stations attract at night.

I do feel for the residents. If they had used LED lighting, they would be able to control the direction much more easily than the systems they went with.

Gazza


Fares_Fair

On the bright side (yes there's at least one), flying ants will never again be a problem for residents. 😛 and the grass will indeed be greener.





On a serious note, it sure sounds like something needs to be done.
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BrizCommuter

Thanks for the detailed information. However it is possible to have a higher speed scissors crossover close to the platform. Brixton and Walthamstow on London's Victoria Line have 80kph scissors crossover, and Tokyo Station on Tokyo's Chuo Line (same gauge as QLD) has a 60kph scissors crossover. In this case the space, and thus crossover speed is determined by the space between the platform and the turnout to the stabling yard.

Golliwog

Quote from: Golliwog on October 17, 2015, 19:07:18 PM
Also, re the above, at Mango Hill Station, just off the bottom of that picture, the land between Mango Hill Blvd West, Halpine Drive and the Coles shopping center is being developed currently into townhouses (granted not high density, but not low either), and once the project is complete, my understanding is the land between Halpine, Mango Hill Blvd West and that station access road is to be sold off to a developer, so again either medium density living, commercial or some combo of the two. Not sure if anything is proposed for the land between the access road and the train line though.

As a follow on, the AV Jennings development is expanding, the block on the corner of Halpine Drive and Mango Hill Blvd West now has "proposed development" signs up showing plans for the site to be developed into something high density with something like 70 apartments and ground floor cafe.
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HappyTrainGuy

Quote from: BrizCommuter on November 14, 2015, 07:25:22 AM
Thanks for the detailed information. However it is possible to have a higher speed scissors crossover close to the platform. Brixton and Walthamstow on London's Victoria Line have 80kph scissors crossover, and Tokyo Station on Tokyo's Chuo Line (same gauge as QLD) has a 60kph scissors crossover. In this case the space, and thus crossover speed is determined by the space between the platform and the turnout to the stabling yard.

I still don't get why you have to have an expensive scissor cross just before the station. The frequency is never going to be so high that trains are going to be so tightly bunched up like that. Even if there is overcrowding any extra services will either start or terminate at Petrie. Considering it will be a major crew facility turn around times would be a couple minutes so you can spend all the money you want on a precision 300kph crossover but that still doesn't change the fact that a train is going to be occupying a platform doing nothing. Even if one departs for the city just as another train arrives. The train that just arrived more than likely wouldn't have been turned around by the time the train from the stabling yard made its way out.

red dragin

Noted trailer mounted Variable Message Signs this morning at Murrumba Downs, stating the overhead will be live from December 2nd. Also received an email this morning confirming the same.

Trains on track soon after, starting at 5km/hr and working up gradually to around 60km/hr, once clearances are confirmed.

red dragin

A few quick photo's from Petrie this morning. I arrived expecting to have to wait a while, but a train pulled in so I didn't get any shots of the new platform, aside from those caught in the edge of photographs. PID's still aren't operational on the eastern forecourt.

:lo


Eastern car park & Kiss & Ride cul-de-sac (to the left of shot).


Beginning of shared user path, complete with distance to next locale signs (just out of shot).


Northern approach to station.


Platform signs on overbridge - Philips Lane - must be the name given to the former Amcor entry road.

red dragin

Quote from: red dragin on November 18, 2015, 10:04:41 AM
Noted trailer mounted Variable Message Signs this morning at Murrumba Downs, stating the overhead will be live from December 2nd.

Signs where changed sometime today to say "Electricity live Mid-December".

Any rumours on a date for the first test train?

BrizCommuter

Quote from: HappyTrainGuy on November 14, 2015, 16:30:29 PM
Quote from: BrizCommuter on November 14, 2015, 07:25:22 AM
Thanks for the detailed information. However it is possible to have a higher speed scissors crossover close to the platform. Brixton and Walthamstow on London's Victoria Line have 80kph scissors crossover, and Tokyo Station on Tokyo's Chuo Line (same gauge as QLD) has a 60kph scissors crossover. In this case the space, and thus crossover speed is determined by the space between the platform and the turnout to the stabling yard.

I still don't get why you have to have an expensive scissor cross just before the station. The frequency is never going to be so high that trains are going to be so tightly bunched up like that. Even if there is overcrowding any extra services will either start or terminate at Petrie. Considering it will be a major crew facility turn around times would be a couple minutes so you can spend all the money you want on a precision 300kph crossover but that still doesn't change the fact that a train is going to be occupying a platform doing nothing. Even if one departs for the city just as another train arrives. The train that just arrived more than likely wouldn't have been turned around by the time the train from the stabling yard made its way out.

The scissors crossover is not required if trains arrive/depart on time at 6 min frequency, but if there are delays (which are not uncommon) then a poorly designed crossover layout will restrict delay recovery time.

red dragin

Quote from: red dragin on December 01, 2015, 20:48:04 PM
Quote from: red dragin on November 18, 2015, 10:04:41 AM
Noted trailer mounted Variable Message Signs this morning at Murrumba Downs, stating the overhead will be live from December 2nd.

Signs where changed sometime today to say "Electricity live Mid-December".

Any rumours on a date for the first test train?

Signs changed this afternoon (between 5.35 & 5.55) to "live wires in corridor" or words to that effect.

verbatim9


red dragin

Quote from: verbatim9 on December 11, 2015, 15:22:35 PM
I guess the 12km cycleway is already open?

:-r

It relies on a few at grade intersection crossings, all of which are still work sites. Will open with railway.


red dragin

Signs have now been removed, and received the latest newsletter via email today.

Now states overhead powered up in January 2016.

ozbob

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red dragin

Quote from: ozbob on December 17, 2015, 03:32:13 AM
2015 Small Bridges Conference Moreton Bay Rail - Bridges

>> here!  Ext PDF

Awesome find Bob  :-t Was very interesting.

HappyTrainGuy

I miss seeing those old tall trees at Petrie. It was great seeing them line the station in the twilight/night phase with the station lighting briefly highlighting the trees before they faded into darkness.

ozbob

Some photographs around Lawnton and Petrie 30th December 2015

Lawnton










Petrie

















Photographs mufreight 30th December 2015
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red dragin

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Quote from: ozbob on January 02, 2016, 15:28:29 PM
Some photographs around Lawnton and Petrie 30th December 2015

Lawnton



Photographs mufreight 30th December 2015

I can't get my head around the location of this image?  :conf

mufreight

Taken from the northern end of Lawnton platform looking towards the new bridge over the North Pine River.

red dragin

Quote from: mufreight on January 02, 2016, 16:08:50 PM
Taken from the northern end of Lawnton platform looking towards the new bridge over the North Pine River.

Thanks - I see it now :-t

red dragin

http://careers.pageuppeople.com/mob/544/caw/en/job/667713/customer-service-attendants

Looks like the stations will be staffed, albeit only for the first few months.

11th of April is still the opening day at the moment (as also stated by Petey)


techblitz

'moreton bay line' would seem most appropriate...

red dragin

Kippa Ring line is my vote.

It doesn't go to Moreton Bay, and there is a lot of line within the Moreton Bay Regional Council area that is not on this branch. It will most likely never go any further east, whereas the Sunshine Coast/Gold Coast lines has

  • Potential for expansion/deviation
  • Travels to another metropolitan area (stretching it for the Sunny Coast I know)

If you wanted to go for a locale/area name, the Redcliffe Peninsula Line could work.

kaykayt


DayboroStation

Kippa Ring line from me too.

I agree with the comments from red dragin.

ozbob

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http://statements.qld.gov.au/Statement/2016/1/13/moreton-bay-rail-overhead-power-goes-live

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Deputy Premier, Minister for Infrastructure, Local Government and Planning and Minister for Trade and Investment
The Honourable Jackie Trad

Minister for Transport and the Commonwealth Games
The Honourable Stirling Hinchliffe

Wednesday, January 13, 2016

Moreton Bay Rail overhead power 'goes live'


The Moreton Bay Rail project is one step closer to completion with the new rail line's 12.6 kilometres of overhead wiring systems switched on today.

Deputy Prime Minister and Federal Minister for Infrastructure and Regional Development Warren Truss said energising the rail line was a significant milestone for the $988 million project which is jointly funded by the Australian Government ($583 million), Queensland Government ($300 million) and Moreton Bay Regional Council ($105 million).

"Turning on the power today is an enormous achievement for the project, and means the Moreton Bay community is one step closer to receiving train services for the very first time from mid this year," Mr Truss said.

"This is an exciting time for the project and means the new rail line, which has been eagerly awaited for the past 100 years, will soon become a reality."

Acting Premier and Minister for Infrastructure Jackie Trad said the Moreton Bay Rail Line was one of South East Queensland's largest infrastructure projects.

"The new Moreton Bay Rail Line is the region's biggest infrastructure project in more than a generation and has supported 800 jobs during construction," Ms Trad said.

"The electrification of the rail line is a critical milestone and brings the key public transport project a step closer to completion."

Minister for Transport Stirling Hinchliffe said with the rail line now 'live', the project would enter an extensive testing phase.

"Queensland Rail and the project team will be monitoring the track infrastructure and signalling equipment and undertaking speed testing to ensure trains are operating safely and efficiently along the new line," Mr Hinchliffe said.

"Over the past two and a half years, more than three million hours of work has gone into this project to reach this milestone. This involved the installation of more than 44,000 sleepers, 60 kilometres of track, 100,000 tonnes of ballast and 170km of signalling cable, in addition to the 632 masts and 12.6 kilometres of overhead wiring switched on today.

"Once opened, the rail line will revolutionise public transport in the Moreton Bay Region, delivering more than 650 train services between Kippa-Ring and Brisbane each week."

Moreton Bay Regional Council Mayor Allan Sutherland said while the electrification of the line was another exciting step in the region-building project, he urged local residents to take precautions around the new Moreton Bay Rail corridor.

"These overhead wires carry 25,000 volts of electricity – more than 100 times domestic supply," Mayor Sutherland said.

"As a former electrician, I know first-hand how important it is for residents to be safe cross at designated overpasses and underpasses, when the new train stations open later this year."

The Moreton Bay Rail project is delivering 14 kilometres of new dual track passenger rail line between Lawnton and Kippa-Ring, linking with the main North Coast line and South East Queensland's integrated public transport network.

For more information about the project, visit tmr.qld.gov.au/moretonbayrail

Video overlay of the electrification of the Moreton Bay Rail Link

Installation of overheads: https://youtu.be/fO4_c8dCSE8 (external site)

Electrification: https://youtu.be/hsDTHh1sTjM (external site)
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techblitz

QuoteIt doesn't go to Moreton Bay


sunshine coast or gold coast lines dont go to the beach either ;) ;)
if the last station is located in the moreton bay regional council then calling it the moreton bay line has merit...
yes the majority of lines are named after the last station but this could go either way imo.....


red dragin

 :lo

Explains all the clipboards around Petrie this morning.

The branch is actually fed from several 11kV supplies, as there are no 33kV lines along its length.

The rest of the network is 33kV fed, meaning the branch has different equipment to service. Apparently QR weren't too keen on funding a new 33kV line and towers, and Energex weren't going to put it in for free  ;D

James

It should be called the Kippa-Ring line, after the last station on the line, just like the rest of the suburban network. The only lines named after regions are the interurban lines, and rightly so.
Is it really that hard to run frequent, reliable public transport?

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Gazza

#1076
Should be called the Kippa Ring line.

Moreton Bay line is not specific enough in terms of location....The Cleveland line runs along Moreton bay too right?

The "Gold Coast" line makes sense.....People popularly know that Robins for instance is on the Gold Coast.

On the other hand, places like Kippa Ring and Rothwell aren't popularly known to be part of a region called 'moreton bay'...
Theyd call it "Redcliffe Peninsula" or "The Peninsula"

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hU0N

#1078
I'm not sure that Moreton Bay is a good idea.

In a general sense, the name Moreton Bay traditionally refers to the region between the Gold Coast and the Sunshine Coast, and west out to the Lockyer Valley. Roughly that is the Logan, Redlands, Brisbane, Ipswich and MBRC councils.

In recent times, the name Moreton Bay has been applied more specifically to the Moreton Bay Regional Council, but it isn't the only place in the wider Moreton Bay area to have the name applied more specifically. Other places within the Moreton Bay area that currently use the name Moreton Bay or a derivative of it (either formally or informally) include the bay itself, the islands (Southern Moreton Bay), Wynnum - Cleveland (bayside), Springfield - Rosewood (West Moreton). And some of these places have rail too (particularly Cleveland), so I think naming it the Moreton Bay rail line could be confusing.

If the name MUST include the words Moreton Bay, then Moreton Bay Regional Council rail line would be better, but a bit clunky.

Otherwise, Redcliffe line or Kippa Ring line would be preferable.

achiruel

Part of the problem is the council being allowed to call itself Moreton Bay Regional Council.  It should've been called North Moreton Regional Council, as was originally planned. However, I believe the line should be called Kippa Ring.

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