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« on: October 29, 2011, 04:17:33 AM »
From the Brisbanetimes click here!

Electric buses bound for Brisbane streets

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Tony Moore
October 28, 2011 - 11:26PM

Brisbane is set to have its first fully electric bus, which can be fully charged in 10 minutes, within two years.

brisbanetimes.com.au understands an official announcement will be made late next month and a prototype being built for Brisbane City Council is expected to be on the road within two years.

Brisbane-based firm Varley Electric Vehicles, based at Virginia, is in the design phase for the Brisbane electric bus project.
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Varley's divisional manager for electric vehicles, John Bettini, and said both the council and the state government were involved in the project.

"We are developing an electric bus at the moment which is rather unique," Mr Bettini said at this week's Australia Electric Vehicles Conference.

"And I think that could come on line in the next two years. We are actually designing a bus for Brisbane City Council right now."

Mr Bettini said Varley was working with several multinational and Australian firms and believed a prototype would be ready early in 2012.

"We are developing a fast-charge electric bus which is capable of being charged within 10 minutes," he said.

"We are in the design stage and the prototype will be built early next year."

Varley Electric Vehicles won a $250,000 state government grant in June to convert carbon-fuelled buses to electric.

A spokesman for Treasurer Andrew Fraser said he was unaware of a planned announcement, however council sources confirmed it had a tentative date set for late November.

The council and the state government co-fund Brisbane's bus fleet.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/electric-buses-bound-for-brisbane-streets-20111028-1mo4p.html
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2011, 06:11:40 AM »
Check this out --> http://www.szdaily.com/content/2011-07/19/content_5855050.htm
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2011, 01:35:36 PM »
How long do the battery cells last though.
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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2011, 03:44:43 PM »
Years.  My hybrid is going well, saves a fortune on fuel.  Not that I drive it a great deal.

Battery technology is moving quickly. For an application like a bus, I don't see any major issues with the present generation of batteries, will only improve with time.

Battery life is generally guaranteed for 5 years for hybrid cars. Replacement cost around $2000 for my hybrid (honda).  Longer life if used lesser.  I would expect buses would probably need replacement batteries every 2 years or so.  Battery cost would probably be in the order of $20K or so I would expect. 
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2011, 03:41:51 PM »
Check this out --> http://www.szdaily.com/content/2011-07/19/content_5855050.htm

Isn't Shengzen a sister city?

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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2011, 03:54:12 PM »
Yes indeed, the BCC page is down at the moment, here is another --> http://www.accca.com.au/index.php?Events:Previous_Events:Echoes_of_Hometown

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Shenzhen is a Sister City of Brisbane.  Te celebrate ten years anniversary of Brisbane-Shenzhen Sister City relations and 35 years of Anniversary of China-Australia Diplomatic relations, Shenzhen City Municipal Government has specifically organised the Shenzhen Arts Troupe to visit Brisbane to present Echoes of Hometown – Music and Dance Concert for Chinese communities in Brisbane.

Maybe they can share their electric bus experiences as well?   ;)
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2012, 09:13:39 AM »
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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2012, 06:22:01 PM »
Found this site showing the bus

http://www.instantchargeelectricbus.com/

Perhaps we should ask for a demo / tour of it when it gets to the trialing stage?

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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2012, 08:13:15 PM »
Found this site showing the bus

http://www.instantchargeelectricbus.com/

Perhaps we should ask for a demo / tour of it when it gets to the trialing stage?
Specs from a .pdf on that page:

DESIGN Specifications
Charge time: 80% in less than 10 minutes
Speed: 90kph (electronically limited)
Power: 150 kW (continuous)
Range: 100 km per full charge
Grid impact: None (buffered recharging)
Charge Station: Modular
Emissions: Zero tailpipe
Energy source: 100% renewable energy
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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2012, 08:25:48 PM »
This will no doubt be based on the testbed that Varley acquired from Council (one of ex-623 or 624, which were the 2 Volvo midi-buses originally bought for use on the Citysights tour).

I suspect it will look nothing like the render on the page, but rather more like this.



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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2012, 03:15:48 PM »
Interesting development.  :-t

- should put a bit of a zap into things....

- should spark things up a little...

- let's hope they don't (wait for it) c h a r g e any more for using it....
 
- let's hope it's ever-ready to hit the road...

- personally, to be honest, I can see some positives and negatives in the idea....

- I do feel..OK, I'll shut-up now....
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2012, 06:25:23 PM »
Any sign of the prototype?
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2012, 07:43:37 PM »
Any sign of the prototype?
I have not heard anything..

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« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2012, 08:13:55 AM »
As prototypes cost money I would not be surprised if this project had been cancelled.

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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2012, 08:18:50 AM »
OP suggests an official announcement would be made in November.  None was AFAIK.

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« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2012, 08:25:11 AM »
Bustech have been letting on that they have been commissioned to build a bus of some kind for BT for delivery by the end of the year - no idea what, but it would have to be a demonstrator of some kind and not serial production.

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« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2012, 12:02:33 PM »
Checking with my contact, stay tuned.
Have asked for a picture if possible.
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« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2012, 12:09:55 PM »
My colleagues on Rail Back on Track are asking about the electric prototype bus.


Response received as shown below ...


FF: How is it going, is it still progressing?
[name removed] ..Not going at the moment. We are in discussion with BCC.

FF: Any proposed completion date?
[name removed] …Hopefully prior to the end of this year but to be confirmed.

FF: Are you able to provide a picture of it (via mobile phone)?
[name removed] ..Once work progresses, should not be a problem.
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« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2012, 09:00:59 AM »
http://brizcommuter.blogspot.com.au/2012/08/new-bus-technology.html
A quick review of new bus technology by BrizCommuter.

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« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2012, 12:39:23 PM »
This technology is good too for electric busses. It could be rolled out along the busway network and major stops throughout Brisbane

http://primove.bombardier.com/application/bus/


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« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2012, 01:16:20 PM »
In theory, Gold Coast Rapid Transit is compatible with Primove if it were ever installed (The Flexity 2s are designed with it in mind), but catenary is a lot more proven.

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« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2013, 09:11:34 AM »
My colleagues on Rail Back on Track are asking about the electric prototype bus.


Response received as shown below ...


FF: How is it going, is it still progressing?
[name removed] ..Not going at the moment. We are in discussion with BCC.

FF: Any proposed completion date?
[name removed] …Hopefully prior to the end of this year but to be confirmed.

FF: Are you able to provide a picture of it (via mobile phone)?
[name removed] ..Once work progresses, should not be a problem.

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« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2013, 09:25:24 AM »
For interest --> http://www.viainfo.net/Communications/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleId=2103

VIA Metropolitan Transit San Antanio Texas

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Electric bus service begins

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On February 26, 2013 VIA Metropolitan Transit rolled out a new kind of transit bus for the San Antonio area, one that runs solely on electricity provided by on-board batteries.

Called the Arc, this electric bus service was made possible by a grant from the Transit Investments for Greenhouse Gas and Energy Reduction program as part of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. This funding was made available to encourage the use of cutting-edge environmental technologies, and a total of $100 million was awarded in a nationwide competition. VIA is one of just 43 transit agencies from across the nation that received this funding, and it is also the only transit agency in Texas that was awarded in this process.

The grant of $5,000,000 was given to VIA Metropolitan Transit to purchase and operate three electric powered buses built by Proterra in the downtown area. VIA is just one of two transit agencies in the United States to have these buses in service.

“VIA is excited to have the opportunity to bring electric buses to San Antonio,” said Jeffrey Arndt, VIA’s interim president and CEO. “The Arc service marks a new direction for VIA as we introduce a completely emissions-free way to provide transit service to the central business district.”

The three composite body buses will operate on VIA’s downtown circulator routes, and they will be recharged at the Robert Thompson Transit Station at the Alamodome. As the batteries are charged, they will receive energy that is generated either by solar panels installed as part of the project or by turbines in West Texas wind farms as part of VIA’s Windtricity agreement with CPS Energy.
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« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2013, 07:36:22 AM »
The 2 ex-BCC buses which were donated for the trial have been sold.  One is with Logan Coaches and the other is with their parent operations in NSW.

Not going anywhere it seems.

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« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2013, 08:19:11 AM »
Electric buses have reached the point where operators can buy them off the shelf.

Might be the go ...

eg.  http://www.ebus.com/
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« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2013, 10:02:49 AM »
For interest ..

Mail Online --> Take a ride on the world's largest bus that is 101ft long and can carry 256 passengers


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World's longest bus: Debuted in Germany, the megabus AutoTram Extra Grand is nearly 101ft long and can carry 256 passengers


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« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2013, 02:12:32 PM »
REnewcconomy --> The electric bus – charged in 15 seconds
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« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2013, 06:39:34 AM »
NPR --> Electric Bus Fleet Brings Chinese Manufacturing To America
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« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2013, 09:57:05 AM »
Volvo hybrid(s) will be appearing next year.  There is one of the same basic model operating for Transperth at the moment on the basis that model may replace the gas buses used on the CAT services in the Perth CBD.  Going very well by all accounts.

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« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2013, 11:06:56 AM »
NSW Hybrid bus trial is worth reading --> Hybrid Bus Trial Report

Maybe technology has improved.
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« Reply #30 on: November 26, 2013, 07:25:01 PM »
NSW Hybrid bus trial is worth reading --> Hybrid Bus Trial Report

Maybe technology has improved.

The bus used for that trial is still running in Adelaide.

The tech can vary.  The Yanks are in love with hybrids but the fuel consumption figures often seem dreadfully high (60L or more per 100km), much more than a recent gen diesel only bus which will go from mid-30s to 50ish depending on how much stop start is involved and how big the powerplant is.

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« Reply #31 on: November 26, 2013, 08:34:34 PM »
Hybrid buses would serve a purpose if they were also trolleybuses.

Otherwise, (if indeed their fuel consumption is actually worse than equivalents) why bother? Just overcomplicates things. Then again, most of the Brisbane fleet is gas, so in terms of raw L/100km we're not doing so well regardless.

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« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2013, 03:19:12 AM »
For interest ..

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« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2014, 03:50:17 AM »
BBC News Technology --> Wirelessly charged electric buses set for Milton Keynes

^ very good article, explains how they work and rapid charge etc ...
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« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2014, 04:00:12 AM »
PHYS ORG --> New bus system tops off batteries in just 15 seconds
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« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2014, 02:24:46 PM »
Earth Techling --> Buses Making Transition More And More To Electric
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« Reply #36 on: February 09, 2014, 12:19:14 PM »
Singularity Hub --> Wirelessly Charging All-Electric Transit Buses Grow Their Numbers in Europe
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« Reply #37 on: February 25, 2014, 10:41:03 AM »
Clean Technica --> BYD’s Electric Buses Can Go 30 Hours On Single Charge

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BYD’s electric buses can run for an impressive 30 or so hours straight in between charges, based on the results of a pilot test performed in New York City last year during the months of August–October. Charging to full capacity took, roughly, 3–4 hours, and was completed at night.

According to SAE International (the Society of Automotive Engineers), one of BYD’s buses was used on a number of different routes in Manhattan during that span of time, and ran for a total of 1,481 miles. The pilot test proved that the electric bus could indeed approach the 155-mile-range advertised by BYD.

Read more at http://cleantechnica.com/2014/02/24/byds-ev-buses-can-go-30-hours-single-charge/
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New Vision --> ABB, Volvo reveal tie-up on fast-recharge electric buses
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