South Brisbane station closure

[ozbob]

Informed sources suggest South Brisbane railway station will be closed from October through to December for refurbishment.

No official confirmation (as yet).

[O_128]

Informed sources suggest South Brisbane railway station will be closed from October through to December for refurbishment.

No official confirmation (as yet).

Good this means its going to be a hardcore refurbishment - fingers crossed for a new paint job and removal of the bitumen platforms. But please don't get rid of the old fashioned chairs etc.

[Stillwater]

Love the ornate chairs.  And can we have a bit of greenery (planter boxes) on the platforms?  Salivating at the thought of a 'hardcore' makeover.

[ozbob]

I think the platforms might be raised as part of the refurbishment, hence the closure ..



Men and women arriving and departing from the Melbourne Street Railway Station, South Brisbane. A tram with passengers is in front of the station.

[Mr X]

At first I thought you meant that the station was being permanently closed 

[SurfRail]

I think the platforms might be raised as part of the refurbishment, hence the closure ..

That's what the tender documents said as of a few months ago. 

The plans I have seen look quite respectable.

[O_128]

I think the platforms might be raised as part of the refurbishment, hence the closure ..

That's what the tender documents said as of a few months ago. 

The plans I have seen look quite respectable.

Great news, let's lose the pink and do something with the parking out the front. KEEP THE CHAIRS! if not sell them I'd buy one

[SurfRail]

I think the platforms might be raised as part of the refurbishment, hence the closure ..

That's what the tender documents said as of a few months ago. 

The plans I have seen look quite respectable.

Great news, let's lose the pink and do something with the parking out the front. KEEP THE CHAIRS! if not sell them I'd buy one

The heritage seating is to be removed, refurbished and then reinstalled, along with a number of other features (eg the platform canopies).

[O_128]

I think the platforms might be raised as part of the refurbishment, hence the closure ..

That's what the tender documents said as of a few months ago. 

The plans I have seen look quite respectable.

Great news, let's lose the pink and do something with the parking out the front. KEEP THE CHAIRS! if not sell them I'd buy one

The heritage seating is to be removed, refurbished and then reinstalled, along with a number of other features (eg the platform canopies).

YAY, If not I was gonna see if I could by one.

[ozbob]

From the Couriermail click here!

South Brisbane train station to close for renovation

South Brisbane train station to close for renovation

    Robyn Ironside
    From: The Courier-Mail
    September 13, 2011 1:07PM

ONE of the busiest stations in the Citytrain network will close next month for major refurbishment work.

South Brisbane station - which is used by nearly 4000 people a day - will be out of action for as long as two months during the upgrade.

It is not clear when Queensland Rail or Translink were planning on making the closure public but a spokesman said alternative transport arrangements were being made.

The upgrade will include raising the platform so it is level with the carriages to make them wheelchair-accessible, and restoring the station to its former heritage glory.

Robert Dow from commuter advocacy group Back on Track said the upgrade was much-needed but ``early notification was required so people could start planning alternative transport''.

``The lack of notice generally (about service disruptions) is something that's irritating a lot of people,'' Mr Dow said.

``It will affect some local businesses in terms of walk-up patronage but it has to be done.''

He said there would be no extra cost to passengers in fares, but trips were likely to take more time.

``It's important people know so they can plan,'' Mr Dow said.

A total of $200 million is being spent on upgrading city network stations, including Toowong, Alderley, Enoggera and Banyo.

[ozbob]

From the Brisbanetimes click here!

South Brisbane train station to close for renovations

South Brisbane train station to close for renovations
Bridie Jabour
September 13, 2011 - 4:48PM

The 120-year-old South Brisbane railway station will be closed for six weeks as the state government upgrades it to the tune of $10 million.

The heritage-listed station will be closed from October 31 to December 9 while major renovations are done to restore it and improve access for wheelchairs.

Queensland Rail was unable to do the work while keeping parts of the station open and has decided to close it for safety reasons.

A QR spokeswoman said they had already started to inform businesses in the area.

"Train services will still be able to travel through the station, and nearby South East Busway services will be supplemented by a free shuttle bus service running between South Bank and South Brisbane stations," she said.

"We are working with local businesses, residents, and TransLink, to minimise any disruptions for the community and apologise for the inconvenience while we undertake this essential work.

"We have a full communications plan in place to inform customers closer to the closure date, as is usual practice."

The upgrade of South Brisbane station was announced last October by then Transport Minister Rachel Nolan.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/south-brisbane-train-station-to-close-for-renovations-20110913-1k7eo.html#ixzz1XoZ9MbOB

[O_128]

Hahaha A rail bus for something the SEB already duplicates and is only a few hundred metres to walk.

[Mr X]

^^ The cultural centre is basically across the street!!!
All South Bank buses operate through the Cultural Centre anyway and it's the same zone, so why not just ask people to walk across the street to the Cultural Centre and take the 100/111/120/130/140/150/160/170/180/200/222/230 bus? If you can't figure out which bus to take to South Bank then there really must be something wrong with you.

[somebody]

It's easier to list the exceptions, which are 4xx, 19x and 202.  IIRC.

[Mr X]

And the 3xx

[Golliwog]

It's easier to list the exceptions, which are 4xx, 19x and 202.  IIRC.

And Cityglider 

I do think that a shuttle bus is a bit much, and I think running it on the busway would be a waste as theres no turn around at either CC or South Bank. If anything, just run a few extra buses on route 66, or 109 (or any of the other routes that aren't particularly long).

[david]

Or walk? Come on... It's seriously not THAT far to walk from South Bank to South Brisbane station. Some people are TOO spoilt for choice these days

[SurfRail]

More to the point, you only have 6 services each way per hour in the weekday off peak.  Passengers from Roma Street or South Bank can change to a number of bus services collectively running much more frequently than that.  With integrated ticketing, there really is not much of an excuse.

If they want to pay for it, good for them though - can't imagine the expense will be significant.

[Gazza]

I think I'll raise this point at the CRG...It's a blatant waste of money.

[ozbob]

Couriermail 14th September 2011 page 10

Busy station taken off track for months

[mufreight]

More to the point, you only have 6 services each way per hour in the weekday off peak.  Passengers from Roma Street or South Bank can change to a number of bus services collectively running much more frequently than that.  With integrated ticketing, there really is not much of an excuse.

If they want to pay for it, good for them though - can't imagine the expense will be significant.

You seem to again overlook the fact that the more inconvenient you make public transport the less people use it, particularly the elderly and the disabled, you may be younger and not physicaly impaired in any way but many are not so fortunate and despite your thoughts on the matter there is considerable justification for concern.
Based upon your conception perhaps we should simply close South Brisbane permanently and save the money that will be expended on the upgrade or to take it to the extreme shut down the entire passenger rail system and replace it with buses with the alternative for most of walking.

[somebody]

Based upon your conception perhaps we should simply close South Brisbane permanently and save the money that will be expended on the upgrade or to take it to the extreme shut down the entire passenger rail system and replace it with buses with the alternative for most of walking.

I think that comment is going a bit far.  There are other reasons to keep South Brisbane, largely for interchange with Cultural Centre bus services.

[mufreight]

Based upon your conception perhaps we should simply close South Brisbane permanently and save the money that will be expended on the upgrade or to take it to the extreme shut down the entire passenger rail system and replace it with buses with the alternative for most of walking.

I think that comment is going a bit far.  There are other reasons to keep South Brisbane, largely for interchange with Cultural Centre bus services.

No more so than the post to which I responded, it is parallel to the logic of that post and equaly as absurd and unthinking of others and their limitations.   

[Gazza]

You've missed the point Mu, if these replacement  railbuses are going to be run on the Busway, then how is that a convenience advantage?.... Plus they won't even get used specifically I bet, because people would just grab the first bus coming, since it's the same platform.

[Mr X]

I assumed the rail buses would just go up Grey St to South Bank station? If they run on the busway then that's epic fail. The buses would need to turn around in the city and in Woolloongabba. 

[somebody]

mu's comments raise a worthy issue though.  When I have used rail replacement buses, they have almost exclusively been high floor types.  What if a wheelchair passenger wants to use them?

[Derwan]

I assumed the rail buses would just go up Grey St to South Bank station?

Yes - they're running between the stations - not along the SEB.

nearby South East Busway services will be supplemented by a free shuttle bus service running between South Bank and South Brisbane stations

The SEB might be okay during the off-peak, but for peak services, would you really expect people heading to South Brisbane to get off at South Bank and board the probably already overcrowded buses on the SEB?

Shuttle buses just make it easier for those who are not familiar with the bus system.  (I for one will catch a train from South Bank / South Brisbane to Central if I don't feel like walking over the bridge - even though I know a bus would probably be quicker.  I just don't know what buses go where and stick with what I know.)

[SurfRail]

More to the point, you only have 6 services each way per hour in the weekday off peak.  Passengers from Roma Street or South Bank can change to a number of bus services collectively running much more frequently than that.  With integrated ticketing, there really is not much of an excuse.

If they want to pay for it, good for them though - can't imagine the expense will be significant.

You seem to again overlook the fact that the more inconvenient you make public transport the less people use it, particularly the elderly and the disabled, you may be younger and not physicaly impaired in any way but many are not so fortunate and despite your thoughts on the matter there is considerable justification for concern.
Based upon your conception perhaps we should simply close South Brisbane permanently and save the money that will be expended on the upgrade or to take it to the extreme shut down the entire passenger rail system and replace it with buses with the alternative for most of walking.

I cannot agree with your sentiments.

A shuttle bus to carry people 700 metres from South Bank is a waste of money when there is an alternative in place which is virtually the same walking distance for somebody leaving platforms 2 and 3 and requires no extra fare for somebody transferring from a train.  Adequate signage and staff on hand directing people to the busway would do (and will be provided anyway for the shuttle bus, one would think).

For anybody coming from Roma Street, it is far easier, faster and accessible to the elderly and less mobile to use the heavily staffed concourse at Roma Street to transfer to numerous existing bus services.

It just smacks of a non-integrated public transport system.

[#Metro]

I cannot agree with your sentiments.

A shuttle bus to carry people 700 metres from South Bank is a waste of money when there is an alternative in place which is virtually the same walking distance for somebody leaving platforms 2 and 3 and requires no extra fare for somebody transferring from a train.  Adequate signage and staff on hand directing people to the busway would do (and will be provided anyway for the shuttle bus, one would think).

Totally agree here. ONE SYSTEM.
Run more buses on the busway. The frequency is much higher anyway (a bus every minute or so).

[somebody]

How many mobility impaired people use South Brisbane daily now?  An on demand accessible taxi may be a cheaper option, but given that I don't believe any are able to use it, it would be surplus to requirements.

[mufreight]

How many mobility impaired people use South Brisbane daily now?  An on demand accessible taxi may be a cheaper option, but given that I don't believe any are able to use it, it would be surplus to requirements.

From personal observation, quite a few, not wheelchair bound but definately incapable of walking any distance without assistance.

[Mr X]

Totally agree here. ONE SYSTEM.
Run more buses on the busway. The frequency is much higher anyway (a bus every minute or so).

Agreed. Extra 66s should be enough.
Where is this proposed rail bus going from and to? If it's only going between the cultural centre and south bank via busway that IS a waste

[ozbob]

The big advantage of the shuttle will be it avoids peak SEB bus jam between CC and Southbank.

Folks from the north can detrain at Roma St and board a bus through to the CC if they want.

From the South, detrain at Southbank, walk or catch the shuttle if wishing to go to South Brisbane station precinct.  Others can catch a bus on the SEB for other destinations as needed.

[Gazza]

From personal observation, quite a few, not wheelchair bound but definately incapable of walking any distance without assistance.

What do they do once they get out of the station complex?

[O_128]

From personal observation, quite a few, not wheelchair bound but definately incapable of walking any distance without assistance.

What do they do once they get out of the station complex?

exactly - tell them to transfer to sth bank and continue from there. they most likely end up near south bank on there strolls anyway.

[Mr X]

The big advantage of the shuttle will be it avoids peak SEB bus jam between CC and Southbank.

You know you have a big problem when it's faster for buses to use the surface streets than your $500mil busway.

[HappyTrainGuy]

What do they do once they get out of the station complex?

Buy a scratchie and then get on a train to go home

[Derwan]

Totally agree here. ONE SYSTEM.
Run more buses on the busway. The frequency is much higher anyway (a bus every minute or so).

If we had "one system", they wouldn't have built a busway that runs beside a train line.

[ozbob]

Totally agree here. ONE SYSTEM.
Run more buses on the busway. The frequency is much higher anyway (a bus every minute or so).

If we had "one system", they wouldn't have built a busway that runs beside a train line.

[Gazza]

How do you mean? If the busway has to get into the inner city then inevitably it will run near existing coridoors.... Either that or spend billions tunneling in a different location???