POLL: Which routes should use the Eastern Busway?

[somebody]

Just like it says.

[longboi]

I don't see the need to have both the 222 and 200 using the Eastern busway. You have 222 which provides a high-frequency backbone route for the Eastern Busway and the 200 which provides a high frequency route for Wooloongabba. Don't forget that W'Gabba won't be an industrial area forever and keeping the 200 is good future-proofing.

203 could go either way - The PA hospital link is there with the 209, but the milk-run nature of the 203 is more befitting to the type of patronage that would use PT to travel to hospital (i.e. The elderly).

I see the 204 as kind of like the 200 in that it will eventually become useful when residential developments start popping up along Logan Rd.

[SurfRail]

Something else for me.

Scrap 200 and 222 and replace with a single BUZ replacing both services as far as Coorparoo West, then into the Eastern Busway and to the City via CC.  CBD stop to be determined, but it could be QSBS or Roma Street, no strong feelings either way on my part.

BUZ the 204 and rationalise routes in the Belmont area (eg 212, 213, 225, GCL etc).  Possibly send via Deshon Street.

Add 203 to the busway at Langlands Park and add 202 to busway at Mater Hill.

Withdraw the current bewildering array of rocket services and start again - maybe use those resources to fund a full time BUZ via Chatsworth Rd and withdraw the 202 altogether.  Only one or 2 rocket services from the Carindale area, running at superior frequency.

Give Veolia higher capacity buses to run the 250 and 270 with and proceed with option 4 of the current review.

[O_128]

How about the 200 moves to eastern busway and keeps current routing and the 222 goes all the way out to capalaba? Cull the rockets and move all the other routes into a 205 all stops carindale to valley?

[Mr X]

204 BUZ would be overkill I think, especially when other areas of Brisbane need better buses.

- Replace 200 with the 245 BUZ that people keep talking about, along Wynnum Road and thru Woolloongabba
- Extend 222 to Carindale Heights? Though is this link needed (not an expert on this part of town)
- 202 and 203 to use busway
- Just have ONE (or at most, two) peak hour rocket routes across Captain Cook Bridge

[Bulimba30A]

200 via busway
201 rocket via Old Cleveland Rd
202 entry at Gabba (and have something else do the back of Annerley/Sth Brisbane)
203 via Logan Rd not Ipswich Rd
204 leave as is
205 full time Cityxpress via current route (using Carindale Interchange off-peak)
206 leave as is
207 extend to Meadowlands Rd via Adelaide St or scrap
208 leave as is
209 leave as is
210 leave as is
211 leave as is
212 cross-town route to Bulimba
213 move to Tingalpa or Manly West rather than Cannon Hill
214 full time
215 run down Wynnum Rd, Story Bridge cityxpress style
216 leave as is
217 via Bennetts Rd, Stanley Rd and Meadowlands Rd or scrap
220 run down Wynnum Rd, Story Bridge cityxpress style
221 leave as is
222 extend to Capalaba

My thoughts on 203/204 is that there will still be a need for all stops routes along Old Cleveland Rd.  Its not so apparent now because the busway is so short but will (in my view) if and when the busway is extended and the stations are further apart.  Its about keeping those routes simple.

[somebody]

Something else for me.

Scrap 200 and 222 and replace with a single BUZ replacing both services as far as Coorparoo West, then into the Eastern Busway and to the City via CC.  CBD stop to be determined, but it could be QSBS or Roma Street, no strong feelings either way on my part.

BUZ the 204 and rationalise routes in the Belmont area (eg 212, 213, 225, GCL etc).  Possibly send via Deshon Street.

Add 203 to the busway at Langlands Park and add 202 to busway at Mater Hill.

Withdraw the current bewildering array of rocket services and start again - maybe use those resources to fund a full time BUZ via Chatsworth Rd and withdraw the 202 altogether.  Only one or 2 rocket services from the Carindale area, running at superior frequency.

Give Veolia higher capacity buses to run the 250 and 270 with and proceed with option 4 of the current review.

That sounds pretty near the fourth option to me.

I'd suggest that possibly the 204 O/B should turn right when it reaches Meadowlands Rd and serve Belmont, removing the Gallipoli St milk run and just stick to O-C Rd, combined with a 210 to Carindale similar to what I've previously suggested, although using Bedievere St and leaving Meadowlands Rd between Bedievere St & Baynes St unserviced.  It's a short walk.  The problem with that plan is then what of the 214/215/220 service to Cannon Hill?  It has a low take up in my experience, but does that mean it should be scrapped, or just reduced in frequency to the 220 only?  The problem with leaving the 220 alone is no one would want to use it to go to the city.  (This is pretty bad tangent here.)

201 rocket via Old Cleveland Rd

I think you are probably correct on this one.  There is zero bus priority on the current corridor until the SE busway.

220 run down Wynnum Rd, Story Bridge cityxpress style
221 leave as is

220 via Storey Bridge = 221 FWIW.

205 full time Cityxpress via current route (using Carindale Interchange off-peak)

Tend to agree, but we could just fix up the rather disgraceful 202.

[somebody]

It should be pointed out that there are the same number of I/B bus stops on Old Cleveland Rd between Main Ave and Logan Rd as there are busway stations, and the stops are outside the stations.  There is an additional O/B stop which would go unserviced if the 203 & 204 used the busway.  Additionally, a few stops on O'Keefe St would be unserviced if the 203 uses the busway. Buranda & Ipswich Rd services aren't far away.

I do not think these are issues.

[Bulimba30A]

I'd suggest that possibly the 204 O/B should turn right when it reaches Meadowlands Rd and serve Belmont, removing the Gallipoli St milk run and just stick to O-C Rd, combined with a 210 to Carindale similar to what I've previously suggested, although using Bedievere St and leaving Meadowlands Rd between Bedievere St & Baynes St unserviced.  It's a short walk.  The problem with that plan is then what of the 214/215/220 service to Cannon Hill?  It has a low take up in my experience, but does that mean it should be scrapped, or just reduced in frequency to the 220 only?  The problem with leaving the 220 alone is no one would want to use it to go to the city.  (This is pretty bad tangent here.)

201 rocket via Old Cleveland Rd

I think you are probably correct on this one.  There is zero bus priority on the current corridor until the SE busway.

220 run down Wynnum Rd, Story Bridge cityxpress style
221 leave as is

220 via Storey Bridge = 221 FWIW.

205 full time Cityxpress via current route (using Carindale Interchange off-peak)

Tend to agree, but we could just fix up the rather disgraceful 202.

Re 204 be the service that services Belmont.  That would ba step backward in my opinion as it would take much longer to get into the City than the current system.
I think Belmont is far enough out to have a limited stops service.

216/221 are rockets from Cannon Hill.  I envisage 215/220 to be limited stops along Wynnum Rd rather than via Richmond Rd/Seven Hills.  I am also aware that people do use 220 to the City, particularly in Manly West as that area is not close to the train line and 227 doesn't provide full coverage.  To be honest I think the Wynnum Manly area needs a complete overhaul.

[dwb]

Deshon St seems reasonably reliable for the 200, and if it is quicker than serving Langlands, Stones Corner and Buranda, then so be it. Leave the 200 as is.

[somebody]

Deshon St seems reasonably reliable for the 200, and if it is quicker than serving Langlands, Stones Corner and Buranda, then so be it. Leave the 200 as is.

A quick check of the Timetable shows the Deshon St routing is 4 minutes slower I/B and 1 minute slower O/B in the middle of a weekday.

[dwb]

Deshon St seems reasonably reliable for the 200, and if it is quicker than serving Langlands, Stones Corner and Buranda, then so be it. Leave the 200 as is.

A quick check of the Timetable shows the Deshon St routing is 4 minutes slower I/B and 1 minute slower O/B in the middle of a weekday.

Ok, they expect it to be faster. I'd like to see it in operation first, and I'd probably prefer to let you customers figure it out, then switch. Yes this might be a bit soft, but possibly 'needed' to shut the whingers up. Yes I realise it is going to be very hard to de-BUZ any route, and that is part of the problem, but maybe like I suggested they could edit where it goes, so 200 ends up at PAH or somewhere?