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Started by ozbob, July 31, 2011, 11:40:49 AM

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david

Quote from: Simon on November 13, 2011, 16:54:54 PM
Why send the 467 to Darra?  Oxley seems pretty reasonable.

With the 101/102 maybe we should focus on what we really want there - bus to coordinate with the city train at Oxley.

Two reasons:
1) To take the pressure off Oxley Station if we are to terminate the 101/102 there.
2) Darra offers a higher peak frequency, and I'm sure there are a lot of people in that area that are choosing to drive to Darra instead of catching the bus to Oxley in peak. Hence, a flow-on effect would be a small reduction in the overflow parking at Darra.

The time difference travelling to Darra is almost the same as travelling to Oxley from the Windermere area, but the overall time savings (ie time saved from the express into the City) counts for a lot. This is one reason why I think parking at Darra has become much much worse.

And as a side note, I regularly see spare parking spots at Corinda these days. Used to be a completely different story back when Corinda was the end of the line for high frequency...

somebody

Quote from: david on November 13, 2011, 19:46:21 PM
Two reasons:
1) To take the pressure off Oxley Station if we are to terminate the 101/102 there.
2) Darra offers a higher peak frequency, and I'm sure there are a lot of people in that area that are choosing to drive to Darra instead of catching the bus to Oxley in peak. Hence, a flow-on effect would be a small reduction in the overflow parking at Darra.
I can accept the second reason but not the first.  Oxley stop B, which is used by the 467 is on the other side of the station from stop A.  So no capacity issue there.

Gazza

QuoteAnd as a side note, I regularly see spare parking spots at Corinda these days. Used to be a completely different story back when Corinda was the end of the line for high frequency...
Even before the new timetable, Corinda was a hidden gem for car parking...Any time of the day, always can get a spot close to the station.

david

Quote from: Simon on November 13, 2011, 20:24:10 PM
Quote from: david on November 13, 2011, 19:46:21 PM
Two reasons:
1) To take the pressure off Oxley Station if we are to terminate the 101/102 there.
2) Darra offers a higher peak frequency, and I'm sure there are a lot of people in that area that are choosing to drive to Darra instead of catching the bus to Oxley in peak. Hence, a flow-on effect would be a small reduction in the overflow parking at Darra.
I can accept the second reason but not the first.  Oxley stop B, which is used by the 467 is on the other side of the station from stop A.  So no capacity issue there.

467 actually does use Oxley stop A (the actual bus interchange on the same side as the shopping village). The only route that uses stop B is the 106. Don't even get me started on the 106..

Gazza

Between Oxley and Mt Ommaney, it's actually not a bad little route, it follows pretty much the way I'd send route it and would be a decent, logical, cross town service. North of Oxley is just crap though.

somebody

Quote from: david on November 13, 2011, 21:55:19 PM
Quote from: Simon on November 13, 2011, 20:24:10 PM
Quote from: david on November 13, 2011, 19:46:21 PM
Two reasons:
1) To take the pressure off Oxley Station if we are to terminate the 101/102 there.
2) Darra offers a higher peak frequency, and I'm sure there are a lot of people in that area that are choosing to drive to Darra instead of catching the bus to Oxley in peak. Hence, a flow-on effect would be a small reduction in the overflow parking at Darra.
I can accept the second reason but not the first.  Oxley stop B, which is used by the 467 is on the other side of the station from stop A.  So no capacity issue there.

467 actually does use Oxley stop A (the actual bus interchange on the same side as the shopping village). The only route that uses stop B is the 106. Don't even get me started on the 106..
Alright.  I checked the stop timetables.

ozbob

Went past Gailes this morning, never seen as many cars (>450) and Friday to boot.  Interesting changes underway, with the new timetable changes more and more are heading to Wacol and Gailes, Darra is parked out early.  Makes sense as the peak trains are express ex Darra; Goodna is always parked out early.

Wacol had a lot of extra cars verge parking as well yesterday, as is the norm most days.
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somebody

Wouldn't it be nice to get a revamped 103 to ease pressure on parking!

ozbob

For interest ..

Queensland Times --> It's official, Dingo Hill exists

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25th Feb 2010 2:00 AM

AN IPSWICH geographical feature has been officially named Dingo Hill by the State Government after the name reportedly used by legendary explorer John Oxley in 1823.

The Department of Environment and Resource Management (DERM) Senior Spatial Information officer Ross Norman said Dingo Hill was the longstanding local name.

"Oxley reportedly referred to the geographical feature as Dingo Hill when he sighted a dingo as he climbed the hill to survey the surrounding area.

Dingo Hill is located on Old Logan Road, in the suburbs of Gailes and Camira. Prior to the construction of Gailes Railway Station in 1925, Dingo Hill was also the name of an unmanned siding near the railway gates.
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We often speculated that when the Springfield line opened the overflow verge parking at Wacol and Gailes  would probably reduce.   

It does seem to have reduced a bit at Gailes and Wacol but not to the degree we once speculated.  I guess population increase (residential development) is still driving it a bit.

The other thing I have noted lately too is that Dinmore park and ride is virtually full these days.  It once always seemed to have a bit of space left most days.
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Verge parking at Gailes (and Wacol) is in overdrive ..  hundreds and hundreds of horseless carriages.

I always smile when I pass Gailes on the flyers.  Officially it has 7 car parks ...  :P

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OzGamer

It would be interesting to see a cost/benefit analysis of closing Gailes and building more car parks at Goodna and Wacol. The running time savings would add up over the years and I doubt that many (if any) people use Gailes other than those who have driven and could easily use one of the stations either side with sufficient parking.

SurfRail

100% yes please.

Bindha too for that matter, also one of the Wynnums, but especially Bindha.  When you have more trains stopping than passengers boarding or alighting you definitely have a problem.
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Poor old Dingo Hill.  It is not DDA compliant of course, and it is difficult to argue for the money to be spent in making in compliant.   I guess when DDA deadlines become real it will go.  Until then, it is a good parking relief valve ...

Quote from: ozbob on September 12, 2011, 07:50:33 AM
Gailes railway station was originally known as Dingo Hill Railway Station

Trove --> here!

As reported in The Courier Saturday 19th September 1925 page 23


QuoteDINGO HILL RENAMED.

Dingo Hill railway station on the main line to Ipswich, has been renamed, and in future will be known as Gailes. This station is adjacent to the Goodna golf links, and the name. Gailes, was selected as it is that of a noted and popular golf club in the Motherland.
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Quote from: SurfRail on September 04, 2019, 16:06:10 PM
100% yes please.

Bindha too for that matter, also one of the Wynnums, but especially Bindha.  When you have more trains stopping than passengers boarding or alighting you definitely have a problem.

I got a bit ruthless in my head one day when looking at patronage figures and local geography and decided that not only should Gailes go, but also Riverview and Ebbw Vale. The outer Ipswich line would actually be pretty quick with good spacing between stations then and I doubt you'd lose much, if any, patronage.

Gazza

The direct access from Bindha Station to the cannery was closed in 2008!
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/golden-circle-workers-fear-for-safety-20080817-gea96i.html

Should have closed the station then!

ozbob

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In view of some of recent discussion, thought you might find this interesting ..

Also noteworthy rail/bus connections have been problematical for some out west ...

From the Queensland Times 10th June 1949 page 2 (source Trove https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/117098210 )

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