Train Types and Data

[Fares_Fair]

Hello All,

I looked up the train loading data in light of the issues on the Sunshine Coast services.
These are found here (courtesy ozbob) -> http://www.queenslandrail.com.au/RailServices/City/Fleet/Pages/ice.aspx

I noticed that the ICE train shows a seating capacity of 180 seats for a 3 car service.
All the ICE trains I have ever caught have only 48 (very comfortable) seats (more like recliners) per carriage, and thus a total of 144 seats in a 3 car set.
Am I missing something ?

Regards,
Fares_Fair.

[SurfRail]

Hi FF,

ICEs cannot run as 3 car sets in revenue service - you can have 4, 5 or 6 cars, ie 2 "power pairs" with 0-2 trailer cars in the middle.  Assuming 100% fleet utilisation - not likely - you can have 4 ICE-only consists running on the network at once (4 x 4 with the option of having some or all of the 4 'loose' trailer cars split up between those 4 trains ).

I would say the published figures are right for a 4 car set.

You could have more than 4 sets running if you partner an ICE pair with an EMU, but that gives you the worst of both worlds...

[HappyTrainGuy]

42 seats for the driving motor cars and 48 seats for both the motor car and trailer cars.

If they wanted to they could run 8 ICE+EMU sets but why bother as both sets are top speed limited. The minimum they can run (Excluding the ICE+EMU combo) is EMD+EMM+EMM+EMD / 42+48+48+42 which gives you a 180 seating load for a 4 car set.

4 car set - 180 seated (EMD+EMM+EMM+EMD)
5 car set - 228 seated (EMD+EMM+EMT+EMM+EMD)
6 car set - 276 seated (EMD+EMM+EMT+EMT+EMM+EMD)

[Fares_Fair]

  Thank you SR, and thanks HTG for the detailed explanation.

Regards,
Fares_Fair.