Rail System Map : Showing Travel Zones

[Fares_Fair]

Hello All,

I have searched the TRANSLink website for the rail zoning maps that are commonly displayed on trains' advertising billboards in the carriages.

I mean the ones that show the station name and it's go card zonal number.

The only one I could find is a coloured zone map which is useless, and doesn't show where all stations are located relative to their go card cost zone.

I would like to include the link for it here if possible.

Thank you.

Regards,
Fares_Fair.

[Derwan]

http://translink.com.au/resources/travel-information/maps/110117_busway-and-train-network.jpg

Is this the one you mean?

[Fares_Fair]

yes, that's it. thank you Derwan.
I have seached all over the place for it ...

Regards,
Fares_Fair.

[p858snake]

Travel Information -> Maps -> Train Network

[SteelPan]

Not wanting to be "negative" but still, all these years on, still WWWAAAYYY too many zones!   

[somebody]

Not wanting to be "negative" but still, all these years on, still WWWAAAYYY too many zones!   

Why is this a problem?

[SurfRail]

Not wanting to be "negative" but still, all these years on, still WWWAAAYYY too many zones!   

Yes, but most people travel through only 2-3 on average I believe. 

What makes it lovely and confusing is the Airport line separate fare scale, which stops the system from just having a station access fee at Domestic and International on top of the usual fare.

[SteelPan]

Not wanting to be "negative" but still, all these years on, still WWWAAAYYY too many zones!   

Yes, but most people travel through only 2-3 on average I believe. 

What makes it lovely and confusing is the Airport line separate fare scale, which stops the system from just having a station access fee at Domestic and International on top of the usual fare.

One can only assume Airtrain's modelling, shows better revenue from a fare revenue structure rather than a station access charge structure (ie, Sydney).  I imagine, it's about QR "only" been contracted for Airtrain services, as opposed Cityrail (Sydney) running trains through a common use built line, with the private sector stations.

The Qld Govt could of course bite the bullet, buy Airtrain and maybe for say 10yrs thereafter install a station access charge, to help reduce the initial financial pain and then, after the 10yr period, kill off the access charge and have the Airtrain service run as a seemless part of the wider Citytrain network.  Maybe a PT question for both sides at the next state election.   

[#Metro]

I think the secret/good thing for Sydney airport airtrain is that the airport has stations that are in the middle of the line. So Sydney Airtrain meets the "be on the way principle" because it pools passengers going to different destinations together which justifies the higher frequency.

Brisbane Airtrain is a TERMINAL station. Passengers are only going to Brisbane Airport, and there are no other destinations. Granted though, frequency on the Shorncliffe line, or any other line isn't too spectacular either...

The Qld Govt could of course bite the bullet, buy Airtrain and maybe for say 10yrs thereafter install a station access charge, to help reduce the initial financial pain and then, after the 10yr period, kill off the access charge and have the Airtrain service run as a seemless part of the wider Citytrain network.  Maybe a PT question for both sides at the next state election.  

Buying out Airtrain spends a lot of money ($300 million or more?) for zero new services. How many new train services can you get for $300 million? The least-worst option would be to just either subsidise trips after 8pm or get airtrain itself to run buses.

(but even then we still have another problem- the line is effectively moving people up and down a guideway if the trains that people could connect to are also low frequency)

[mufreight]

The imediate buy out of Airtrain is the only logical answer, the suggestion by Steelpan with the Government then making a limited life (10 years is reasonable) station access charge to offset the costs of the purchase, as the operator QR would then be able to better intergrate services with the rest of the rail network and extend the hours of operation to meet the demand.

[#Metro]

Good luck convincing the government to spend $300 million!

[mufreight]

Good luck convincing the government to spend $300 million!

Another reason why there is a need to change the Government.   

[SurfRail]

We could take the $300m and put it towards 2 new airport links down my way... 

[Zoiks]

Another reason why there is a need to change the Government.   

Do you really think Campbell 'Road Tunnel' Newman would do this? I think we have a better chance at investment in public transport under labor atm

[#Metro]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/services-and-timetables/buses/route-702
http://translink.com.au/about-translink/reporting-and-publications/media-releases/release/192

The direct bus connection between Southport and the Gold Coast Airport, route 702, is proving popular with residents and visitors.

TransLink CEO Peter Strachan said patronage on the route had more than doubled since it was extended late last year.

"In the final week of July this year, 15,277 passenger trips were made on route 702, up from 7132 in the same week last year," Mr Strachan said.

"Customers previously had to transfer to a mini-bus with limited frequency.

"Now we have full size buses carrying an average of 30 people each run to the airport every half-hour, including connections to the first and last flights of the day.

"This large increase in passengers shows that customers clearly enjoy the convenience of the one-seat journey to and from the airport.

"The State Government, through TransLink, jointly funded a six-month trial to extend the bus route in partnership with the Gold Coast City Council and the support of Gold Coast Airport and Gold Coast Tourism."

Also half hourly but runs later than Brisbane Airtrain... Ouch....


Stop buying bags of concrete... it is not necessary to buy out Brisbane Airtrain to get improved service. Spend that money on boosted train frequency and expanded hours to Brisbane Airport.

[mufreight]

Well if they wait until the Airport Link tunnel is open the value of Airtrain will depreciate considerably so that figure of $300 million will probably drop to half if that figure then the Airtrain will need to be operated by QR and intergrated into the network or it will sink financialy with Airtrain then seeking subsidy from the Government to remain solvent.

[somebody]

Also half hourly but runs later than Brisbane Airtrain... Ouch....

761 also provides half hourly service to OOL.  During its operating hours, there is a 15 minute coordinated frequency north from the airport.