Bicycles on city train

[ozbob]

It is a good thing that bicycles are permitted on city train.
This helps encourage people to use environmentally friendly methods of travel.

To help maintain maximum room for all passengers in trains, a policy of bicycles being in the lead carriage only, and then strict enforcement of no bicycles (except for exemptions) be done during peak hours. More "park and ride" bicycle lockers for security should be made available as well.  These lockers are free although a security deposit ($50) is required.

Presently bicycles are permitted on Citytrain services, outside these hours: 7:00-9:30am towards the CBD and between 3:00-6:30pm outwards from the CBD.
It is possible for an exemption to be made for special circumstances. Sometimes people see bicycles on trains in peak hours, and assume that the person is breaking the rules. They may well have an exemption.

It is not practical to increase the number of carriages on our suburban trains at this time.  They operate in integrated units of 3.  Presently some 3 car sets and majority 6 car.  The next combination is 9 car.  Most of the Brisbane stations cannot handle 9 car trains at present.  (Although this may well the option in the longer term on certain lines).

Some of the suburban sets  now have lead carriages with longitudinal seating. This makes them more ameanable for bicycles and passengers. In the longer term if all sets can have lead carriages (2 per 6) with longitudinal seating this would work better for bicycle users and the travelling public generally.

A condition of travel for a bicycle would then become that the rider must use the lead carriage when with bicycle.

Reference: http://www.citytrain.com.au/plan_your_trip/bicycles/bicycles.asp  < 404

[ozbob]

Update:  Present policy

https://www.queenslandrail.com.au/Customers/Pages/Bicycles.aspx'

Travelling with your bike
You are permitted to travel on South East Queensland (SEQ) train services with your bike at all times during weekends and public holidays.

Bicycles are permitted on weekdays at all times, excluding the following peak times due to safety, customer service, cleanliness and capacity issues:

Between 7:00am - 9:30am towards the CBD
Between 3:00pm - 6:30pm outwards from the CBD.
To avoid travelling during these peak times, all customers with bicycles must complete their morning journey by 7:00am toward the CBD and complete their afternoon journey from the CBD by 3:00pm. Passengers with bicycles are permitted to travel in the following opposite direction avoiding the specified peak times above.

During peak hours, bicycles will not be permitted to pass through the CBD (Fortitude Valley, Central and Roma Street stations).

Passengers with fold-up bicycles are permitted to travel at any time as long as they are contained in a carry bag and are within the following dimensions, 90cm x 70cm x 36cm.

Please note: If you are found travelling with a bicycle during peak times, you may be asked to leave the train until an appropriate service is available.

[ozbob]

With respect to the six month trial bicycles and scooters be allowed on peak hour train services. 

We support this with the caveat that carriages for bicycles and scooters need to be designated. 

We suggest carriages 1 and 6 on a six car train set, or carriage 3 on a three car set be the designated carriages. This allows passengers to choose to travel in carriages free of bikes and scooters and keeps some access available for disabled passengers. Passengers can still travel in the designated carriages but bikes and scooters should only be permitted in the designated carriages and this needs to be enforced.

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/ozbob13/status/1399158904760594432

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/CoxyJindas/status/1399161643242704896

https://twitter.com/CoxyJindas/status/1399162877278253056

[Cleveland Line]

First and last carriage is stated by the Minister in that 7News clip you linked to (see from about 1:30 mark)

https://twitter.com/ozbob13/status/1399158904760594432

[ozbob]

^ Yes, thanks.   Glad that some common sense has been applied.

It would have been good if the Minister's statement was more detailed than spin.

[brissypete]

Saying 2 per carriage is good and all but will any effort be made to enforce it, bikes have been a common sight on peak trains for years with very rare enforcement of the rules.

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[verbatim9]

It's better to have bikes where the straps are located in the NGRs. The older trains do have more space in the last carriages but not the NGRs. New stickers should be placed on the floor and exterior of doors where you can secure a bike safely.

Notice the n the NGRs there is no provision to secure the bikes safely in the last and first carriages. The metro style carriage is the most ideal for bikes which is picture also above.

[ozbob]

https://www.queenslandrail.com.au/Customers/Pages/Bicycles.aspx

Travelling with your bike

From 1 July 2021: Six-month trial of bikes and e-scooters on all trains in peak times

From Thursday 1 July 2021, you can travel with you bike or personal e-scooter on all South East Queensland peak train services, as part of a six-month trial.

If you're travelling with a bike or e-scooter, please:

travel only in the first and last carriages on six-car trains (not permitted on three car trains)
board via the first or last train door
check for space and ensure only two bikes or e-scooters are in the first and last carriages at one time.
Always be mindful of fellow customers and ensure access to priority areas and seating, aisles and doorways is kept clear. Please also make sure you stay with your bike or e-scooter at all times.

Travelling with your bike between Ipswich and Rosewood

Only three-car services operate between Ipswich and Rosewood stations. On this part of the network customers can still travel with a bike or e-scooter however, the following travel conditions apply:

travel only in the first carriage and board via the first train door
check for space and ensure only two bikes or e-scooters are in the first carriage at one time.
If you are travelling towards Rosewood, you will be prompted to move to the first three carriages at Ipswich station. If you are situated in the last carriage of the train with your bike or e-scooter, you will have time to relocate to the first carriage to complete your journey.

For more information about travelling with your bike, please speak with station staff or visit the TransLink website.

As this is a trial, we encourage customer feedback throughout the trial period. You can provide feedback through the above channels or via our online contact form.

Please note: Commercial e-scooters and e-bikes, and combustion-powered scooters are not permitted on Queensland Rail services at any time.

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/PeterDoherty7/status/1410569869993512962

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/MarkBaileyMP/status/1412882450900914176

[ozbob]

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/railbotforum/status/1412892075230515200

[ozbob]

[ozbob]

Brisbanetimes --> Bikes, scooters allowed permanently on trains after successful trial $

All bikes and scooters – electric or traditional – are allowed on south-east Queensland trains at any time from Saturday after a six-month trial in 2021.

Commuters can now bring their bikes and scooters on to the first and last carriages of trains all day after more than 170,000 trips were made last year in peak hours with few incidents in six months. ...

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/AnnastaciaMP/status/1484670448977977344

[Gazza]

Now anytime!

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=361617649111438&id=100057896175570

[ozbob]

[Cazza]

Great outcome! I've taken my e-scooter on the train to Ferny grove to visit a friend a few times now. Since the bus service to Upper Kedron is literally non-existent, it makes it so easy to actually make that first and last mile journey. Now time for more separated bike lanes around are suburbs so we don't have to dangerously use the completely inadequate footpaths around our city!

[#Metro]

As a bike and scooter user I'm a big supporter of scooters as a feeder mode. It's also cheaper than car parks at stations.

They are great late at night too when PT is dead and there isn't service.

Sadly, a lot of stations presume that scooters are very dangerous and surround stations in parking ban zones and the like.

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/cbdbug/status/1493511170094895105