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Offline SurfRail

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« Reply #1520 on: June 09, 2021, 12:53:39 PM »
7th birthday of operations coming up on the 21st of next month.

One of only 2 things they managed to get basically right in the last 20 years - the other being integrated ticketing in July 2004.  Everything else has had or caused problems to some extent.
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« Reply #1521 on: June 09, 2021, 09:10:06 PM »
Along with the Springfield line, one of two decent PT infrastructure programs in SEQ in the past decade. And how close did that come to being a cluster***?

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« Reply #1522 on: June 09, 2021, 10:19:31 PM »
Springfield was going to be single track.  :fo: :yikes:
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« Reply #1523 on: June 10, 2021, 12:11:26 AM »
Along with the Springfield line, one of two decent PT infrastructure programs in SEQ in the past decade. And how close did that come to being a cluster***?

We had to advocate for double track and the station at Springfield (Lakes).  It was a near miss.  The outcome is good though now.
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« Reply #1524 on: June 10, 2021, 09:56:55 AM »
^ Although still plenty compromised (eg Darra junction, missing Oxley platform etc)
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« Reply #1525 on: June 10, 2021, 10:02:31 AM »
^ Although still plenty compromised (eg Darra junction, missing Oxley platform etc)

Different project.  But Corinda <> Darra West is good example of what not do.
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« Reply #1526 on: June 26, 2021, 09:19:36 AM »
Gold Coast Bulletin --> Gold Coast Mayor Tom Tate on light rail: Truth is being left at the platform $

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DEMOCRACY is a wonderful thing but as a society, we cannot let the truth become a casualty of any debate.

The latest push back from the anti-light-rail brigade has left the truth at the station platform.

Here’s a fact. Light rail was first discussed in the City’s public transport plan of 1998.

It was listed, along other proposed transport modes including rapid buses and even monorail.

In 2011, as a mayoral candidate, I actually lobbied for rapid buses over light rail.

I won the mayoralty in 2012 but by then, light rail was the chosen transport mode and stage one was being built. So I got on board.

Our City’s modern transport plan shows the critical role light rail will play, linking heavy rail at Helensvale with light rail all the way to the airport.

My message to the anti-light rail protesters is: where were you in 2010? It is foolhardy to now be protesting a project that got the green light more than a decade ago. ...
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« Reply #1527 on: July 09, 2021, 01:03:06 AM »
Gold Coast Bulletin --> Shock finding: Why trams and not buses are the only way to improve public transport to the airport $

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ALMOST all visitors at the Gold Coast Airport are leaving by car due to the limited bus services, according to a council report.

The only way to improve public transport, council officers suggest, is a tram service.

In an update on light rail Stage 4 from Burleigh to Coolangatta, the officers refer to the airport as “pivotal to the local tourism industry and economic development on the Gold Coast” and note demand would increase significantly in the next 20 years.

The state government’s ShapingSEQ 50-year regional plan sought high-frequency public transport connections including extending light rail to Coolangatta, officers added. ...
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« Reply #1528 on: July 09, 2021, 01:14:44 AM »
We wouldn't be here in relation to the proposed route debate, if they had finished the heavy rail to the airport. If heavy rail to the airport is completed prior to the tram being completed? There would only be one choice for the LRT route. That being the coastal route, as the other route would be taken up with heavy rail and active transport, being a shared path parallel to heavy rail corridor.

If the government is smart, they would secure funding to start on the heavy rail corridor to Tugan ASAP. This will give the anti LRT groups no option but concede and allow the LRT to travel via the Gold Coast Hwy to the airport.
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« Reply #1529 on: July 09, 2021, 06:16:12 AM »
Let’s have an express tram to OOL from Burleigh 😜 :bna:
No stopping in between! They can take the bus!
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« Reply #1530 on: July 09, 2021, 02:03:17 PM »
We wouldn't be here in relation to the proposed route debate, if they had finished the heavy rail to the airport. If heavy rail to the airport is completed prior to the tram being completed? There would only be one choice for the LRT route. That being the coastal route, as the other route would be taken up with heavy rail and active transport, being a shared path parallel to heavy rail corridor.

If the government is smart, they would secure funding to start on the heavy rail corridor to Tugan ASAP. This will give the anti LRT groups no option but concede and allow the LRT to travel via the Gold Coast Hwy to the airport.
No because then they would say sh%t like
"Oh we already have a train, we dont need a tram"
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"Send it west to Varisty then change to a train"

Both are crap outcomes.

The fact is,

-Trams get double the patronage of the GC heavy rail line....

This is amazing performance. A 20km tram line gets more patronage than a 50km rail line.



-777 bus to the airport gets more patronage than the 760 bus from Varisty to the airport.

Therefore if the trams and the coastal buses are more heavily used, the need to upgrade that corridor is more urgent.

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« Reply #1531 on: July 09, 2021, 04:39:50 PM »
Or, as is already happening, they'll be saying 'trams are outdated, make it xx instead', completely ignoring the fact that forcing a modal change on the one corridor will completely ruin the chance of the network performing as well as it can.

The stupidity among the NIMBY movement knows no bounds unfortunately.

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« Reply #1532 on: July 09, 2021, 05:48:25 PM »
The world is not run on Facebook or the comments section of news websites, as some of these people seem to have forgotten.

This war was lost 10 years ago.  Trams it is.  Deal with it, move, or stay and be grumpy - doesn't make a difference.  Their personal approbation of the project is unnecessary and does not constitute a veto.

I'm much happier not saying anything these days.  It is amusing to watch though.
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« Reply #1533 on: July 10, 2021, 12:56:02 AM »
^ agree SurfRail.  It is beyond tedious.
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« Reply #1534 on: July 23, 2021, 11:19:41 PM »
https://twitter.com/7NewsGoldCoast/status/1418478352080408588

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« Reply #1535 on: July 25, 2021, 03:04:01 PM »
Gold Coast Bulletin -->  Renaissance of Light Rail research paper $

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THE Gold Coast light rail has helped lead a national “renaissance” of trams, a new report reveals.

The Renaissance of Light Rail research paper compiled by the Australasian Railway Association analyses the first five years of the trams on the Coast and its short and medium-term legacy, including boosts to property prices and public transport usage. ...
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« Reply #1536 on: July 29, 2021, 04:17:18 AM »
Gold Coast Bulletin --> Shock move: Red light to super tower light rail development in Gold Coast suburb $

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ANGRY Main Beach residents are calling on council to remove the light rail overly map which has launched a wave of super tower development through their beachfront suburb.

In a stunning move, council planning chair Cameron Caldwell made the suggestion to protesting residents at the Main Beach Association annual general meeting on Tuesday night.

More than 200 residents attended the event at the Southport Yacht Club and another 67 watched on zoom due to COVID restrictions, ready to back several motions as part of a “call to action” to reform council’s planning powers.

The Bulletin in an exclusive report on the eve of the meeting revealed how the suburb could quadruple within 20 years, the population increasing by 420 per cent reaching 16,411 people.

Residents aware the tram route had allowed for code assessable developments with bigger and bulkier buildings than existing apartment buildings in large landscaped grounds voiced fears that the suburb east of Tedder would “become Hong Kong”.

Cr Caldwell had told residents: “Why don’t you ask council to put forward amendments that remove that overlay. We just did it on the beachfront, we proposed to do that. ...
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« Reply #1537 on: July 29, 2021, 07:20:34 PM »
People living anywhere near the ocean-front on the GC have to come to accept, it stopped being a seaside village decades ago! It's one of the key economic drivers of SEQ and needs to embrace built structures that reflect this. It's the "Vegas" of Oz and will be increasingly focused on delivering high quality tourist experiences, way more than any type of even remotely idyllic domestic lifestyle.

Now, let's get a true fast/er rail connection between Bris/GC and add a mountain of value to the SEQ tourist experience!   :pr
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« Reply #1538 on: July 29, 2021, 11:59:05 PM »
Also, if you don't like high rises near the beach you can always just buy a place in Byron Bay and not worry about high rises.

 

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