Car parking - solutions?

[Jonno]

Can we remember to come back when this whole project is finished and the streets are still full of parked cars and highlight that the additional car parks at a high cost has fixed nothing and made the station a unsafe urban environment. Waiters not security cameras.

[mufreight]

Not really a solution at Dinmore, but rather another example of short-sightedness.
The extended car park has been built so that encroaches upon the alignment for the third track with the car park less than 2m from the platform face that was built for a third platform when the station was rebuilt in preparation for the 1950's track amplification and electrification.
When as will be eventually required a third or fourth track is constructed about a third or this great marvel of stupidity will have to be torn up.
So much for the expert transport planners at SEQIP.   

[Jonno]

Interesting post at Human Transit on the subject

http://www.humantransit.org/2010/07/eight-fewer-cars-74-more-bikes.html

Every car park built is a waste of money...my hard earned money!!!

[ozbob]

I noted a petition on platform 3 Oxley this morning calling for improved expanded park and ride facilities at Corinda and Oxley, and feeder buses to Oxley from the Centenary Suburbs.  Agree wholeheartedly with need for feeder buses.  As a  community we cannot continue to knock down houses and turn the precincts around stations into lifeless acres of tar and cement.  Station buses!  Bring it on...

[ozbob]

From the Sunday Mail 29th August 2010 page 12

Row as TransLink snoops on commuters



Comment:

All the commuter  car parks have signs indicating constant surveillance, whether this extends to data collection for the purpose of transport planning is a moot point.  This is not new, data like this has been collected for years to assist in planning of park and ride facilities and local feeder buses.  We are becoming overly sensitive.  Motorists are constantly monitored by cameras on the roads and highways.

[ozbob]

Yesterday I attended a community meeting at the Darra Bowls Club.  The meeting was a BCC community information session on the 'Darra Oxley District Neighbourhood Plan'.   I was able to have concerns with car parking around the stations and consequent issues for residents and businesses and commuters noted as a major planning issue.

[#Metro]

Um, what is this all about?
The purpose of vehicle rego being displayed on both ends of the car is so that people can look up the information...
Yes, they should be told.

Now what has TL learned about these park and ride facilities? What reports did it make?
Are they locals or people from further away?

What about feeder buses? Have they used the info there?

[Stillwater]

With many of the railway station carparks located in busy suburban shopping centres, often the movement of cars to and from the station add to the general traffic congestion in suburbs, especially during peak periods.  Also, station carparks are used by people shopping or doing business in the area, not necessarily catching a train.

Thought should be given to having boom gates at station carparks, operated by people flashing their Go-Card, so that only commuters can use these areas.  Land adjacent to railway stations in busy suburbs is expensive (if additional acquisition is required), so it may be more feasible to establish commuter carparks some distance from the stations (in less congested locations) and having a shuttle bus feed to and from the station.

All new stations should have built into their design provision for a feeder bus function.

[ozbob]

This is an edited transcript of an online meeting held 29th August, posted in this thread to facilitate further discussion.  Due to various commitments not many able to make this meeting but we will be discussing this again in a couple of weeks.

Transcript of online meeting 29th August 2010.   

   
ozbob: Ok  we can get started
ozbob: General format for online meetings


    * Meeting opens
    * Welcome
    * Members check in as desired or pass (check that folks are able to comment etc.)
    * Introduction of topic and guest/s (if invited)
    * Discussion of topic


Note:  Edited transcripts of meetings will be made available for future reference/discussion and posted on the board.
somebody: I think there are a couple of strong candidates: 100 into Richlands and 450 into Darra
ozbob: Car parking
ozbob: getting to be a major issue at many levels
ozbob: residents, businesses and commuters
ozbob: problem stations?
Stillwater: caboolture a mess
ozbob: Nambour, Caboolture, Petrie, FG, Oxley Corinda
somebody: Must side with Jonno on this one, I'm afraid
Stillwater: same at narangba
ozbob: Any more?
ozbob: Most of the Ippy line stations with park and rides are a mess
somebody: Graceville & Sherwood?
Stillwater: petrie is busy, but seems QR has opened up some more grassed spaces
ozbob: yes,  more will come
Stillwater: it continues to be a busy station, however
ozbob: yesterday at the BCC community planning group meeting at Darra for Darra Oxley
somebody: Kippa-Ring is the best solution
Stillwater: yes, true
ozbob: I managed to table the issue, and a planner actually supported the notion of ramped up station buses.
Stillwater: and the situation at nambour and caboolture is the same -- people drive to nambour from further north because there are poor train services.  they drive to Caboolture from the glasshouse mountains area for the same reason.
ozbob: I am thinking that a task force comprising commuters, businesses, translink, government, operators needs to take this issue on
Stillwater: that is a good idea
somebody: But Translink are already spending too much money on parking
ozbob: Yes indeed SB, that is why we need to start getting sustainalbe solutions.
Stillwater: there should be a consideration of the type of pressure put on the government.
ozbob: Park and rides are needed but not to infinity
somebody: We already have quite a few park and rides.  Many more than Sydney offers
Stillwater: if we just demand more parks, the response is to provide them in the rail reserve, thus using space that may be needed for future tracks
ozbob: yes
somebody: What about Melbourne and Perth
Stillwater: the government should be encouraged to work with councils and business also -- use council land for carparks, provide coffee shops etc (utilising business) at the parking locations
Stillwater: get business to provide funding for the franchise opportunity within a carpark
Stillwater: offset the cost of the carpark with the franchise money
ozbob: Melbourne has some parking but those who tend use public transport can mainly walk up / and tram it particularly along the broad inner network, this is historical pattern of development.  as you get it out a bit it is like BNE   basket case
ozbob: Perth, not real sure but they are using feeder buses well
somebody: I'm guessing Melbourne doesn't have a substantial CBD bus system like SYD & BNE do?
Stillwater: look to utilising off-site (but nearby) carparks, like carparks for churches (they are used on sundays only), or carparks at sports fields and have shuttle buses from there to the stations
ozbob: SB no, it is trams   and boy do they carry the pax
somebody: do buses feed the trams at terminii?
ozbob: yes some but limited, buses are being used for a lot of cross suburban stuff away from rail and tram  works well
Stillwater: make the local infrastructure (carparks at churches and sports grounds) work harder -- that's why its important to involve councils and look outside the box
ozbob: In Melbourne City there are a few buses that come in but nothing like SYD or BNE
ozbob: **make the local infrastructure (carparks at churches and sports grounds) work harder -- that's why its important to involve councils and look outside the box  **  good point SW
Stillwater: At Caboolture there is a wonderful opportunity to build an underground carpark on council owned land across the road from the station.  Business could build it inexchange for using part of the space on top for retail, rest as a square.
Stillwater: then, the existing station carpark can become a major bus interchange, taxis, kiss and ride etc
Stillwater: ikt is one of the stations due for a facelift.  has anyone seen the plans?
ozbob: It looks as though no one else is coming along tonight.  I will post this transcript and we can get a discussion going and follow it up with another meeting.   There is grief everywhere with parking ...
ozbob: plans for CAB , no I haven't
Stillwater: it can be a wonderful facility, but i suspect it will be developed in a piecemeal fashion
Stillwater: i looked at the opening plaque there recently -- it was opened offocially by (I think) Gordon Chalk.  Remember him?
ozbob: Yes that is a while back
Stillwater: ok, need to head off for dinner, thanks for the opportunity to chat about an important subject
ozbob: Thanks for coming along,  We will be following this up
Stillwater: ok
Stillwater has left.
ozbob: We will close now

[#Metro]

Just listed the stations mentioned: Maybe some members can propose feeder bus solutions for their local area?

Caboolture
Nambour
Petrie
Ferny Grove
Oxley
Corinda
Narangba
All Ipswich line stations

[Golliwog]

Ferny Grove: I believe its the 399 to Samford, needs a boost. Currently it does something like two runs to the station in the morning and two runs in the evening from the station back out, so if you miss those then you're stuck.

I think the 397/398 are good although perhaps they could do with a little tweeking of the route to cover more areas. I havn't caught either in a long time, but IIRC one of them does a lot of zig zagging.

I think the 367 to Upper Kedron needs to be rerouted as a lot more housing estates have been put in since this route was first started yet the run hasn't been extended at all.

There should also be another route (or two), but it would have to use Midi buses or have a bus turn around facility put in at the end of Lanita Rd or one of the other dead end streets down that way. The bus through Keperra also needs work as its service times are pretty dodgey and it stops running at something like 5.30pm, perhaps something could be looked at with the half of Keperra on the southern side of Samford Rd as catching the 362 from here takes ages of twisting through the other side of Keperra to get to the station. IMO also a new route needs to be made as part of Translinks new network plan to link between the 385 and the Ferny Grove line. Currently the 362 has this role but its quite a windy route and only runs at a roughly hourly frequency all day. I  think the ideal service would connect with the shopping center at The Gap (posibly looping around Payne Rd) across to the Great Western and then down Samford Rd to FG station.

[somebody]

Quite a few good points there, but I'm less convinced of a need for a more frequent 362.  I think there are far bigger fish to fry, such as combining the 397 & 398 with the 390 and serving KGSBS.

I would agree about the need for a bus interchange on the north side of the station at Ferny Grove.  Might require removing half a dozen parking spaces, but well worth it.

[david]

With the proposed Park and Ride at Jindalee, I think it would be appropriate for a new feeder service from Jindalee to Darra Station.

I propose that the 458 be re-routed to follow the following:
- Normal route up to Centenary Highway, follow Sinnamon Road to Centenary Highway Westbound on-ramp, exit Sumners Road off-ramp, follow 452 to Darra station.

Alternatively, a rat-run could be made through Sinnamon Park using the following route:
- Normal route up to Centenary Highway, follow Sinnamon Road to Centenary Highway Westbound on-ramp, Exit Mt Ommaney off-ramp, (L) Glen Ross Road, (R) Bellwood St and follow 451 to Darra station.

Although most people would think Oxley would be a better option, I tend to think Darra would be better because
a) It allows for connection with Darra-Roma St expresses, which would be more attractive
b) 17 Mile Rocks Road is a shocker in peak these days
c) It allows for interchanging opportunities to Springfield later on (which is slated for an employment boom)

[somebody]

Not a fan, I'm afraid david.  Jindalee-city via Darra or Oxley is too much backtracking to go forward.

Riverhills is different.

[Golliwog]

But while it may be longer given traffic in peak it may end up being faster, unless buslanes are put in to the city.

[Stillwater]

The oft-touted response from transport officials is that there is not enough patronage to warrant late-night buses, or buses serving smaller communities.  On the Sunshine Coast, the council is having a trial of maxicabs as buses, called FlexiLink.  It is an innovative idea that deserves support.  Here is a link: www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/sitePage.cfm?code=flexilink

[Golliwog]

I've heard of FlexiLink before. Seems like a good idea. I would think it would have a use operating short feeder services around stations given that taxis are funnily enough a lot smaller than a bus so can get into more areas than a bus can. Plus patronage on short routes might not be high enough to justify a whole bus to come frequently enough to be useful.

[ozbob]

David makes a good suggestion IMHO.  A lot of cars parking at Oxley are from the Jindalee area. It is not a long drive or ride from there to Oxley/Darra at all.  Some direct feeder buses to Darra could work well and help relieve some of the parking pressures for sure.  Particularly when more express trains from Darra, coming ...

[ozbob]

http://www.translink.com.au/mediarelease.php?id=196

$7.2 million for Klumpp Road Park n' Ride

Monday 6 September 2010

Residents in the Upper Mount Gravatt region will soon be able to park 'n' ride the bus from their local area, thanks to construction of a new $7.2 million park 'n' ride which is now under way.

Transport Minister Rachel Nolan and State Member for Mansfield Phil Reeves today turned the first sod on the 200 carpark project, which is due for completion by the end of the year.

"This new facility will make it much easier for residents in the Upper Mount Gravatt area to access bus services heading for the South East Busway," Mr Reeves said.

"It will provide customers living in nearby suburbs such as Mansfield and Mt Gravatt with a dedicated facility to park their cars and complete their journey on public transport.

"Many people live within walking distance of the public transport network, but for those who have to drive or ride to catch a bus, this new facility will give them much better access to public transport."

Mr Reeves said that the new park 'n' ride will provide parking for approximately 200 cars, including disabled parking bays.

"There will also be new traffic lights timed with the Timor Street traffic lights to provide safe access and better access for walkers and cyclists, and there will also be new bike racks," Mr Reeves said.

"The project will include landscaping using drought-resistant plants, and it will be a safe parking area with security cameras and lighting and 24 hour CCTV cameras.

"On a number of occasions, local residents have raised with me the need for more public transport opportunities in this area and I'm glad the Bligh Government has listened to those concerns."

Minister Nolan said that last year the State Government made a $123 million election commitment to deliver more than 1,300 new park 'n' ride spaces for TransLink customers over the next 3 years through the TransLink Station Upgrade Program.

"Since the start of this year, we have already opened six new or expanded park 'n' ride projects, delivering more than 700 additional, secure, all-day car parking spaces," Ms Nolan said.

"These projects alone represent a $17 million infrastructure investment that will provide convenient access for TransLink's public transport customers, while avoiding adding additional traffic to inner city streets or around major commercial hubs.

"This new facility in Upper Mt Gravatt and numerous others like it throughout the TransLink network are helping to alter commuter behaviour by making it easier and more attractive to make public transport the first choice, which goes a long way towards reducing congestion on our roads.

"We'd also like to take this opportunity to thank the residents for their patience during the construction of this vital piece of infrastructure," Ms Nolan said.

Mr Reeves said further public transport infrastructure to benefit the local area had also been flagged last week with the release of the Queensland Government's $123 billion transport blueprint.

Mr Reeves said Connecting SEQ 2031: An Integrated Regional Transport Plan for South East Queensland was the next stage towards a world class public transport system.

"When the Queensland Government published the first integrated plan in 1997 there wasn't a single kilometre of dedicated busway in the State. Thanks to that plan we now have a world renowned public transport system with 24 km of busway in Brisbane, more than any other city in Australia," Mr Reeves said.

"It just goes to show that when you have a clear plan for the future you can make it happen.

"Consultation on the draft plan is now open and I encourage all local residents to carefully consider the draft plan and have their say."

For more information visit www.connectingseq.qld.gov.au or phone 1800 038 178.

For more information on the Klumpp Road Park 'n' Ride project, email klumpproad@tmr.qld.gov.au, phone 1800 192 112 (free call), or visit www.translink.com.au or phone 13 12 30, 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

[#Metro]

I hope they release the information about which suburbs these cars come from.

[somebody]

Yet another park and ride?  Have Translink spent 10x on park and ride as opposed to service improvements in the last 12 months?  Yes, I know park and ride are one off expenditures.

[#Metro]

Minister Nolan said that last year the State Government made a $123 million election commitment to deliver more than 1,300 new park 'n' ride spaces for TransLink customers over the next 3 years through the TransLink Station Upgrade Program.

So two trains' worth of pax were added to the system. I struggle with the idea that to access PT, you need a car.
I understand that it may be needed for far flung places, but Klump Rd?  Its only 2km from Garden City Westfield?

[somebody]

I understand that it may be needed for far flung places, but Klump Rd?  Its only 2km from Garden City Westfield?

And the Mains Rd park n ride isn't far away either.

[BribieG]

A fair amount of activity on the Caboolture line in the last few months with big new car park extensions just opened at Burpengary and Bald Hills, and the Morayfield West carpark doubling in size, just about finished and they are putting in cabling for the cameras etc.
They built a very big car park at Caboolture on Hayes Street behind the station, many years ago for Expo and it has just sat there like a white elephant as you would be taking your life into your hands to walk around there after dark. Recently they have fenced and lit and camera'd the carpark and it's now fairly full. Interesting to see a lot of apartment development around the station as well nowadays, it used to be old derro timber houses on blocks.



They must have done that flyover at 6 am on a Sunday 

Also Bribie Island park n ride for the 640 bus is now open. About 4 cars park there  but hopefully it will take off.

[#Metro]

From the Courier Mail
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/call-for-park-n-ride-hubs-to-be-built-closer-to-brisbanes-cbd-to-ease-parking-squeeze/story-e6freoof-1225932518573


PARK 'n' ride facilities should be built within 10km of Brisbane's CBD to stop commuters from clogging up residential streets around major transport hubs, Brisbane City Council says.

Commuter advocacy group Rail Back on Track spokesman Robert Dow said feeder buses, which picked up from local streets and carried passengers to local transport hubs, should be expanded.

Mr Dow said people were still encouraged to drive because the feeder bus situation was not the best, in particular their hours of operation.

"In some cases they stop at 5pm or 6pm," he said.

A TransLink spokesman yesterday rejected the proposal, saying it would increase traffic congestion in the inner city.

"It also goes against TransLink research and world's best practice."

Since July last year, more than 950 extra park 'n' ride spaces have been built.

[#Metro]

 

It wasn't clear the way Ursula wrote the article- did TransLink reject the idea of park and rides, or was it station feeder buses, or both?

The station feeder bus system currently in place is a joke. But the idea of park and rides in the inner city-- what the? Although Toowong has it, and Toowong isn't 10 km from the CBD.

Clearly an access problem is acting as a huge barrier. People cannot get to the station even though they might live almost next to it. (800m + or so)

[#Metro]

Time to roll out FUZ buses!!!

       

and feed rail using bicycles 

  :bi  :bi  :bi  :bi

[O_128]

sheeesh ursala another anti pt article 

[ozbob]

I don't think it is anti-public transport, was able to reinforce the calls for feeder buses that are a real option ...

From the the Courier Mail click here!

Call for park 'n' ride hubs to be built closer to Brisbane's CBD to ease parking squeeze

Call for park 'n' ride hubs to be built closer to Brisbane's CBD to ease parking squeeze

   * by Ursula Heger
   * From: The Courier-Mail
   * October 01, 2010 12:00AM

PARK 'n' ride facilities should be built within 10km of Brisbane's CBD to stop commuters from clogging up residential streets around major transport hubs, Brisbane City Council says.

Each day 300,000 commuters fight it out for the 21,000 spaces available at transport hubs across the southeast, forcing many to drive their cars to areas just outside Brisbane's CBD zone, such as Windsor and Indooroopilly, before catching public transport into the city centre.

Deputy Mayor Graham Quirk called on the State Government to scrap its ban on park 'n' ride facilities within 10km of the CBD.

"If somebody lives 7km from the CBD they aren't going to drive to a park 'n' ride 10km out if they are coming into the CBD," he said.

"They'll tend to go to a train station or a major bus station that is closer in, and therein lies the problem because there is nowhere else to park except for in residential precincts."

Cr Quirk said the State Government needed to build park 'n' rides within a 3km radius of the city centre, as well as add to existing facilities in some outer suburbs.

"The inner suburbs is where the pressure is on, but also there is some pressure in the outer suburbs where there are insufficient spaces, and that tends to create an overflow in suburban streets," he said.

Windsor resident Meghan Tyquin, said people often blocked her driveway.

"We are trying to put a petition for two-hour parking in the area, to stop this happening," she said.

Some other areas have petitioned council to install parking limits, but Cr Quirk said deeming areas off-limits to commuter cars just pushed the problem to other streets.

A recent BCC survey of some Windsor residents found little support for installing two-hour limits on all street parking.

Commuter advocacy group Rail Back on Track spokesman Robert Dow said feeder buses, which picked up from local streets and carried passengers to local transport hubs, should be expanded.

Mr Dow said people were still encouraged to drive because the feeder bus situation was not the best, in particular their hours of operation.

"In some cases they stop at 5pm or 6pm," he said.[/b]

A TransLink spokesman yesterday rejected the proposal, saying it would increase traffic congestion in the inner city.

"It also goes against TransLink research and world's best practice."

Since July last year, more than 950 extra park 'n' ride spaces have been built.

TransLink is against the inner city park and ride expansion, not the feeder bus.  That could have been better clarified.

[ozbob]

Note:

On page 16 of today's Courier Mail (print) there is this additional comment that has not made the online version viz. "TransLink rejected Cr Quirk's park 'n' ride push, saying it would worsen traffic congestion in the inner city."  This is after my comments.

[somebody]

What a stupid idea!  Within 10km of the CBD, it should be achievable to have a reasonable bus or rail service within a reasonable walk.

[#Metro]

Bicycle access to stations needs to be improved and research/focus groups into cycling to rail and busway stations needs to be done.
This means registered GoCard activated bicycle cages also and signed bike paths/bike lanes around station areas.

  :bi  :bi  :bi  :bi

Feeder buses (FUZ buses) should be trialled at key locations, and certainly at locations which have traffic hell.
Which rail stations have traffic hell in the morning/local streets full of cars? Perhaps someone can suggest a few.

       

There are some difficulties with feeder buses to local stations- not impossible to solve, but here are a few:
* Poor interchange, no bus bay facilities or stops
* Poor road connections around the stations- many rail lines will split a suburb and become a barrier to
walking, cycling and buses. The solution is more bridges either side of the rail station to allow circulation
* Narrow streets around rail stations- use smaller buses if possible

So with that- would anyone be keen to suggest some trial locations?

[#Metro]

Suggest trial locations! ---> http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=4548.msg35320#msg35320

[Derwan]

What a stupid idea!  Within 10km of the CBD, it should be achievable to have a reasonable bus or rail service within a reasonable walk.

Totally agree with this!

Park'n'rides within 10km of the city will only encourage more people from further out to drive further towards the city.

The council needs to WAKE UP and offer better feeder services.  TransLink has to come to the party and FUND these services.

[#Metro]

Feeder buses should travel in direct routes, be high frequency; and one other thing. Should they be free as well?
IMHO free transfers to the rail station might be a good idea.

[Derwan]

Should they be free as well?
IMHO free transfers to the rail station might be a good idea.

They should not add to the cost when transferring.  If both are the same zone, the feeder service will effectively be free.  For example, if the station is zone 3, the feeder bus should also be zone 3.  Heading to the city will be a 1-3 zone trip whether you catch the feeder service or not.

Of course to implement this, they need to put an end to the situation where some stations are a particular zone but a bus to/from that station is a different zone (e.g. Boondall).  (In fact, there is a "feeder" bus from Boondall station that runs through College Green a couple of times a day.  But if I were to catch it, I'd be paying for an extra zone to travel back towards the city.)

[Jonno]

Feeder buses should travel in direct routes, be high frequency; and one other thing.

Agree totally as long as the feeder is a cross city route than feeds many stations/locations (e.g. Morningside-Coorpooroo- holland Park or the like)

Should they be free as well? IMHO free transfers to the rail station might be a good idea.

I think with some sensible zone management they should not be any additional cost until you are making a true  cross town trip.  Frequency will always be the key then cost does not matter as much because it is good value.

Total

[ozbob]

From the Herald Sun click here!

Melbourne's CBD parking is equal dearest in Australia

Melbourne's CBD parking is equal dearest in Australia

    * Mitchell Toy
    * From: Sunday Herald Sun
    * October 03, 2010 12:00AM

MELBOURNE is one of the two most expensive cities in Australia for CBD parking, a nationwide investigation has found.

Motorist can expect to pay an average maximum of $45 for a full day of under cover CBD parking on a weekday, compared with $4 in the Northern Territory and $20 in Adelaide.

Sydney also ranks as most expensive with drivers paying a maximum of $45 on a weekday.

Drivers are slugged a maximum of $44 in Brisbane, $27 in Perth and $22 in Hobart for a covered city parking spot, a Sunday Herald Sun survey of carparks shows.

The carparks include the Wilson behind 333 Collins St, where a full day's parking costs $46, and Secure Parking at the Foundry on Little Collins St, where the daily fee is $54.

Visitors to the Wilson Park Hyatt carpark, next to the Peter MacCallum Cancer Centre, can expect to pay $19 per hour for the first three hours and a maximum of $85 for a lost ticket.

In Darwin - the nation's cheapest parking city - fees get as low as $2.40 per day at the Mitchell St, Daly St and McMinn St carparks.

Parking at the Darwin Oval and Cavenagh St in the CBD costs $4 per day.

Darwin City Council owns many CBD parking areas.

Christopher Zinn, of consumer group Choice, said planning ahead and checking costs of alternatives such as public transport were wise moves for motorists.

"Parking is what's known as a grudge purchase - nobody likes paying for it," Mr Zinn said.

"A few people who work in offices can have it paid for them, but often it's people who need to go to the doctor or are not well off who face large fees for parking."

Mr Zinn said drivers should pay close attention to price structures that usually were displayed at entrances to carparks.

Secure Parking spokesman Andrew Sapir said market conditions often influenced the price of parking in any given area.

"Rent is always a big influence on what a car park will charge," he said.

"In cities such as Sydney and Melbourne there are also things such as parking levies and congestion tax."

Drivers are encouraged to take advantage of cheaper weekend parking, with flat rates of $12 or less common in the Melbourne CBD.

Secure Parking recently launched a weekend Party Parker deal, allowing CBD partygoers to leave their cars overnight for discounted rates.

[ozbob]

From the Northern Times Caboolture 1st October 2010 page 14

PARKING CHAOS

PARKING CHAOS

Lobby group RAIL Back on Track is calling on a taskforce including councils,
TransLink, the State Government and community groups to address congestion at park 'n'
ride facilities near train stations.

[ozbob]

From The Satellite 6th October 2010 page 7

SOLUTION DOOMED TO FAIL