Car parking - solutions?

[Cazza]

B-line program to deliver Opal activated commuter car park trial


https://transportnsw.info/news/2017/b-line-program-to-deliver-opal-activated-commuter-car-park-trial

[ozbob]

Sunday Mail 22nd October 2017 page 68

Traps with Peter Cameron

Wines plonks on rail parking

[#Metro]

^^ Wow, what a load of unfiltered rubbish.

LOL, they are going to cut 1000 car parks to put in a supermarket? When has that ever happened in QLD?

I think we will see hen teeth production farms set up before we see car parks taken away for a supermarket.

"Resident Only" How will Samford people get to catch the train?

I guess Queensland Rail will announce services to The Moon tomorrow?

[ozbob]

Couriermail Quest --> Councillor, State MP battle with ideas for parking near Ferny Grove Rail Station

A BRISBANE councillor concedes his plan to stop commuters parking on streets near Ferny Grove line railway stations will push cars onto local roads and add to congestion.

But Cr Andrew Wines (LNP – Enoggera) said the parking ban push was part of his opposition to the State Government's plan for a retail and residential development at Ferny Grove railway station.

"I'm sure that hundreds of vehicles are going to get back on the roads and jam up our major road corridors," Cr Wines said.

"My position has always been we need expanded and improved car parking at Ferny Grove train station because it's the biggest and most important one in the district.

"Instead of units, cinemas and grocery shops, we need more carparks.

"If we have a big one (carpark) there, on the main road, servicing all those people, we can largely deal with the issues through Oxford Park and Grovely (stations).

"When Ferny Grove fills up, they move to the next station on the line."

However State Labor MP for Ferny Grove Mark Furner said the resident-only parking scheme would be a "lose-lose" situation for residents and commuters.

"For residents, it would mean they have to pay the council to park in front of their own house. (Brisbane City Council charges $10 per vehicle, up to $25 per household).

"For commuters, it would result in more people driving to stations further along the line or all the way to the CBD.

"This would cost commuters more each day and put more cars on already congested roads," Mr Furner said.

He said the station development (or Transit Oriented Development) would add 253 extra spaces to cater for growth and "completely revitalise the area" but dodged questions about whether there would be room for more in the future.

The agreement for the project to go ahead depends on the developer gaining approval from Brisbane City Council to build a temporary commuter carpark, at the developer's expense.

Fightback Upper Kedron Ferny Grove spokeswoman Kate Gadenne said the group was "really angry" about the parking-ban plan.

"It's going to force more cars onto Samford Rd," she said. "What option do we have than to drive?"

She said parking had been a problem around Ferny Grove rail station, and other stations, for a very long time.

"Surely if council was so incensed about lack of commuter parking, they would be trying to improve bus services to ferry people to schools and the station, not petitioning for parking schemes that will earn them revenue and make finding a park even harder for many," she said.

"What about those who need to drop children to school in neighbouring suburbs and park further down the line? A scheme like this will only create revenue for council and put more cars on the road.

"These kinds of stunts serve to confuse and politicise the situation."

Mrs Gadenne said many in the community had questions about the proposed transit development, such as how traffic would be managed.

Plans for the TOD have yet to be lodged with the council.

[ozbob]

Couriermail Quest --> Sensors, cameras and app part of new parking trial at North Lakes

A HI-TECH project that will attempt to improve access to parking at North Lakes will be rolled out next year.

The $900,000 trial involves installing sensors in the pavement, as well as cameras that are linked to an app.

The app will then let users know where to find available parking spaces, out of the 358 being monitored along The Corso, Linkfield Drive and Little Burke St.

At a meeting in May, councillors called for expressions of interest for a smart-parking system in the CBD.

Part of that system was to limit all-day parking around the CBD, however, this latest trial will not enforce any time limits, according a council spokesman.

Assistant Minister for Cities and Digital Transformation Angus Taylor said the project would reduce congestion and make car parking more accessible and more convenient.

"Congestion in centres like this is caused by people driving around looking for a park," Mr Taylor said.

"The app can have their phones tell them where to go to get a park."

The project, initially thought to cost about $400,000, will be funded equally by the Federal Government and Moreton Bay Regional Council.

Division 4 councillor Julie Greer said the council would call for tenders to deliver the design, installation and operation of the system and work closely with local businesses, North Lakes State College and the community to evaluate its effectiveness.

The RACQ said it supported innovative ways for motorists to have a more efficient driving experience.

"Driving around looking for a park can create added congestion so we'd expect an app like this would benefit motorists," a spokeswoman said.

[ozbob]

Been advocating something like this forever here ... NSW gets on with it ....

https://twitter.com/GladysB/status/977346011818467333

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/moore_oliver/status/982379392239357952

[ozbob]

Couriermail Quest --> The State Government is selling a parcel of land used as overflow parking at Mango Hill train station

A large vacant block of land used for overflow parking for a popular southeast Queensland train station is up for sale leaving commuters limited parking options.

Up to 200 commuters a day park on the patch of dirt next to the Mango Hill train station, north of Brisbane, as the station car park fills up early every morning.

Brisbane real estate JLL is taking expressions of interest from those keen to develop the site, on behalf of the Queensland Government for the Department of Transport and Main Roads (TMR), which owns the land.

Residents were quick to take to social media to express concerns at the loss of parking spaces.

Moreton Bay Regional Council mayor Allan Sutherland and state Labor MP for Murrumba Steven Miles said they would work to ensure any future development included a car park.

The 3.8ha site, including two other parcels of land near the station, is known as The Mango Hill Transit Oriented Development site.

It is being touted as an opportunity for a range of uses including medium density residential, retail, commercial, education, a child care facility, leisure facilities and more with an allowable building height up to 21m.

"The current car park at Mango Hill station is clearly too small," Mr Miles said.

"Most days even the temporary car park is full.

"Long term commuters deserve a larger, sealed car park and I expect this development will incorporate a car park available to commuters.

"I will be asking the Transport Minister to urge developers to incorporate a car park in their proposals," Mr Miles said.

"The sky is the limit for this project. It could offer a seamless integration of apartment living, retail, food and beverage outlets across the road from public open spaces."

Cr Sutherland said the council strongly supported the idea of any development having a car park requirement.

"We're working hand-in-glove with the State Government to unlock the potential of the Mango Hill site so local residents can truly benefit from the new rail line, university precinct at Petrie and nearby shopping."

Residents Claude and Isabell De Beer were concerned at the possible loss of the car park.

"Sometimes at 10am you can't get a park here," Mr De Beer said.

"There are too many cars. We are not a little suburb any more. We need this car parking in our suburb."

Expressions of interest for the site close at 4pm on April 27.

[SurfRail]

So improve the local bus services!  Not hard guys...

[ozbob]

A few more parking 🅿 problems around Darra too of late. Some of the street parking has been restricted duo to road resurfacing. Feeder bus 🚌 far from ideal of course.

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Out of all the new-ish stations from Kallangur - Kippa-Ring, Mango Hill has the least amount of (official) parking spaces with 200, but is one of the busiest stations on that part of the line (?)

(& here are the local buses, 681/2 & 687)

[techblitz]

its ridiculous.....the ones who get punished are the ones who actually use the buses...as it is their buses which are slowed down in all the traffic.

[SurfRail]

If I was planning buses around North Lakes, I would be aiming to completely redesign things around there for simplicity.  In particular, get rid of the loops that don't go to the station, and provide connections between all off-peak trains and most peak trains (from first to last service) between Mango Hill and North Lakes, Kippa-Ring and Redcliffe, and Redcliffe and Sandgate.  There should be no reason why Gold Coast stations should be the only ones with that level of service.

[OzGamer]

Honestly, drive the three minutes to Murrumba Downs where there are hundreds of spaces available. Does every station need a sea of parking around it?

[Paul B]

People feel entitled to drive and then get the train. is it a cultural thing? Given the lack of bus priority in Brisbane, it will be hard to take it away now that it is so common.
Women I see on social media often cite the "don't feel safe walking from train" explanation to why they do it. It certainly adds to the congestion around Northgate station / Sandgate Rd / Nudgee Rd

[SurfRail]

What amazes me - even for TransLink's woeful standards of performance - is that the bus timetables for Springfield haven't been sorted out after 4 1/2 years since the extension opened.  Parking issues everywhere, but let's not run enough buses to make the 10-bay bus interchange actually useful to people in the area.  Honestly, it's enough to make me want to punch glass at times.

[Gazman]

Honestly, drive the three minutes to Murrumba Downs where there are hundreds of spaces available. Does every station need a sea of parking around it?

I'm surprised more people don't do this. Regardless, I have no idea how they came up the car park numbers required at each station along the Redcliffe line. Not to mention, Mango Hill's car park is extremely poorly design with such an inefficient use of space.

[techblitz]

People feel entitled to drive and then get the train. is it a cultural thing? Given the lack of bus priority in Brisbane, it will be hard to take it away now that it is so common.

lots of new age millennials with small cheap cars trying to balance work,gym/sports,shopping or café with friends....last thing they want is to be waiting for a bus.
Sad reality unfortunately...

One fairly foamy way to tackle it...

1. build some new estates without garages
2.implement bans on permament resident vehicles....only allow temporary trucks or cars eg: visitors/removalists.
Basically force them to use the buses.....obviously there needs to be a decent discount compared to similar estates in the area so as to entice them to commit living in a residency where vehicles aren't allowed.

Women I see on social media often cite the "don't feel safe walking from train" explanation to why they do it. It certainly adds to the congestion around Northgate station / Sandgate Rd / Nudgee Rd

given the female bus driver which who recently assaulted at Nundah I can see why 

[#Metro]

Charge for parking. Perth does.

Don't force people to eat rotten apples because eating apples is an inherently good thing - replace the apples instead.

Instead of letting people bring their car to the station, let them bring their house to the station instead.

[red dragin]

Honestly, drive the three minutes to Murrumba Downs where there are hundreds of spaces available. Does every station need a sea of parking around it?

I'm surprised more people don't do this. Regardless, I have no idea how they came up the car park numbers required at each station along the Redcliffe line. Not to mention, Mango Hill's car park is extremely poorly design with such an inefficient use of space.

Their intention was to capture Bruce Highway traffic at Murrumba Downs.

[ozbob]

http://statements.qld.gov.au/Statement/2018/5/9/parking-relief-for-varsity-lakes-commuters

Media Release
Minister for Transport and Main Roads
The Honourable Mark Bailey

Parking relief for Varsity Lakes commuters

Commuters will be approximately 70 car parks better off as the temporary Commonwealth Games parking spaces at Varsity Lakes train station are given a $250,000 facelift to expand the available parking capacity.

Minister for Transport and Main Roads Mark Bailey said the success of the Varsity Lakes park'n'ride during the Commonwealth Games reinforced the benefits the additional parks would have for customers.

"We're advised that the sealed component of the temporary GC2018 park'n'ride will be ready for customers within a month, which is great news for Gold Coast commuters," Mr Bailey said.

"Transport and Main Roads officers have assessed the site following the Games ahead of site reparation works.

"The site was assessed as requiring temporary lighting and CCTV, as well as remedial works including repairs to the car park surface, line marking and fencing.

"Park 'n' ride facilities are an important element of the transport network and, when delivered in the right locations, they allow commuters to connect with high frequency public transport where walking, cycling and other transport options are limited.

The additional spaces are a temporary arrangement that'll be in place while longer term planning for the site occurs. 

Mr Bailey said the vacant land around Varsity Lakes station is earmarked for future use as a Transit Oriented Development (TOD), and additional commuter car parking for the train station.

"Using this land for car parking as the TOD plans progress is a great result for commuters," Mr Bailey said.     

"In addition to utilising land near train stations for park'n'rides, TOD opportunities are also identified at locations where the state owns adjacent land that is surplus to rail requirements.

"TODs are private sector developments aimed at creating vibrant and accessible mixed use spaces.  They typically promote increased use of active and public transport modes and improve safety and security through passive surveillance.

There are currently 305 car spaces at Varsity Lakes train station.

ENDS

[Paul B]

http://www.couriermail.com.au/questnews/commitments-flood-in-for-northside-electorates/news-story/5a3084638a1d8ab1647a69cdd72f74e7

More parks for Geebung. No plans to fix the pathetic hourly feeder routes 326,327.
Zillmere Rd crying out for something better than the 325

[SurfRail]

Honestly, send these numbskulls to Europe and make sure they don't get chauffeured anywhere.  Force them to get a train from the airport to town, buy a local public transport pass, and give them a range of destinations to reach in a given day.  Make sure they pass through the main interchanges and observe the important characteristics, including the virtual absence of car parking.

[techblitz]

http://www.couriermail.com.au/questnews/commitments-flood-in-for-northside-electorates/news-story/5a3084638a1d8ab1647a69cdd72f74e7

More parks for Geebung. No plans to fix the pathetic hourly feeder routes 326,327.
Zillmere Rd crying out for something better than the 325

650 space multistory coming for springfield central station as well....yet has only a handful of poor frequency bus routes 

[ozbob]

I managed to highlight the mediocre state of the Springfield area bus network in an interview on 4BC yesterday afternoon.  Slammed it.

[ozbob]

Couriermail Quest --> Public transport expert says carpark will be filled in a day

The number of parking spaces at Springfield Central station will double but a public transport expert says they will be filled within a day of opening.

State Labor MP for Jordan Charis Mullen revealed on Monday a vacant block southeast of Springfield Central station was the ­preferred site for a multistorey 650-space carpark.

Surveyors inspected the site last week but Ms Mullen did not specify start and finish dates for the build.

The $44 million park 'n' ride would boost parking from 500 spaces to 1100.

But Rail Back On Track co-ordinator Robert Dow said it would not stop cars overflowing onto median strips and footpaths.

"I can guarantee, as soon as the new carpark is finished it will be full the day after," Mr Dow said.

He said parking at the end of the line station had been inadequate since it opened in December 2013 with 200 parks.

Mr Dow said Queensland Rail trains could seat about 1000 passengers, and ­providing parking for "only one train full" was not an adequate solution.

"That's the problem in a nutshell," he said.

"Either we turn the whole suburb into a parking lot or we be a little more sensible and provide better access to active transport — protected bicycle and pedestrians pathways — and better feeder buses," Mr Dow said.

He said the bus network to Springfield Central station was unchanged since it opened, despite the surge in population.

He believed improvements in bus reliability, frequency and route design would be a better solution than increased parking.

TransLink confirmed the station was served by 10 buses per hour on weekdays and six buses every hour on weekends.

Further along the line, Springfield Station has no bus stop. TransLink confirmed in November it would continue to look at the feasibility and benefits of building a bus stop.

"There is always a limit to how many cars you can fit into a carpark, but if bikeways are made safe, pedestrian infrastructure is in place and buses can be relied upon, then we can get more people to work on time," Mr Dow said.

For the record I commented trains carry up to 1000 pax ... not seated!   

[#Metro]

Typically you can fit 2 people in an apartment, so 325 apartments around Springfield station would do the trick.

[matlock]

"Further along the line, Springfield Station has no bus stop. TransLink confirmed in November it would continue to look at the feasibility and benefits of building a bus stop."



Good lord, why? Just build a bus stop and reroute some bus routes to service the station. Don't waste 10 years doing up glossy brochures about a single bus stop...

[Cazza]

Good lord, why? Just build a bus stop and reroute some bus routes to service the station. Don't waste 10 years doing up glossy brochures about a single bus stop...

https://www.google.com.au/maps/d/edit?mid=1qwbo3Rwgyuoa23rs2TFRLEB3i1A&ll=-27.670568914329323%2C152.92076645229486&z=14

The hard work's been done. All they need to do is stick in a bus bay and stop and hey presto. Plenty of room:
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-27.6596194,152.9216479,3a,75y,72.51h,74.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syDHvuhzRJfrUZ582dscIAg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

[ozbob]

Couriermail Quest --> Springfield Central station upgrade too slow for passenger growth

PASSENGER growth at Springfield Central station supports public transport expert Robert Dow's assertion that its new 650-space carpark would likely be full within a day.

The $44 million park 'n' ride would boost parking from 500 spaces to 1100.

Last year, 1175 passengers boarded a train at Springfield Central station.

This accounted for 12 per cent yearly growth and a 60 per cent surge on 2014 figures.

On average, passengers numbers have grown 16 per cent annually since the station opened in December 2013.

With this considered, more than 1300 passengers can be expected by the end of this year.

It is not yet known when the carpark would be operational.

State Labor MP for Jordan Charis Mullen campaigned for the station parking upgrade and said build dates would be confirmed following detailed design of the park 'n' ride.

She could not yet confirm if the build would allow additional storeys in the future to meet the growing demand.

Springfield News reported earlier that a site had been selected for a new multi-level carpark that would provide 1100 spaces at a site southeast of the station.

Rail Back on Track co-ordinator Robert Dow said Queensland Rail trains could seat about 1000 passengers, and ­providing parking for "only one train full" was not adequate.

"Either we turn the whole suburb into a parking lot or we be a little more sensible and provide better access to active transport — protected bicycle and pedestrians pathways — and better feeder buses," he said.

[ozbob]

Couriermail --> Is comprehensive feeder bus system the answer to Brisbane's rail parking problem?

RAIL commuters are being forced to be creative or park illegally at choked Park 'n' Ride facilities around Brisbane but there maybe a simple solution to the problem, according to a rail advocacy group.

Rail Back On Track wants feeder buses to ferry commuters to train stations to ease the strain on Park 'n' Ride facilities which are overflowing and clogging residential streets.

Despite more than 10, 100 spaces across 67 Park 'n' Ride facilities servicing Brisbane's metropolitan train network, local streets are being choked with parked vehicles while some motorists park illegally because of the lack of space.

Rail Back On Track spokesman Robert Dow said the solution was not to create more parking spaces but to introduce feeder buses which head directly to the nearest train station.

"It's (parking facilities) something we have been looking at for 10 years and watching it get worse," Mr Dow said.

"No matter what you do, you are never going to build enough parking spaces.

"Perth has a third of the size of Brisbane's railway line but carries 30 million more passengers a year because they have excellent feeder buses."

Brisbane City Council's infrastructure chairman Amanda Cooper places the blame on the lack of car spaces on the state government which is responsible for the rail network and associated parking facilities.

"The addition of new park and ride facilities at locations along major transport corridors will allow more commuters to park and ride, taking the pressure off major roads," Cr Cooper said.

"Residents across the city are experiencing significant commuter parking in local streets every day due to the failure of the State Government to properly plan for park and ride facilities."

The council and the state government have clashed over the potential reduction of 300 spaces at Ferny Grove railway station during the construction of a retail and residential development.

The station can accommodate 959 vehicles and which is the most of any Park 'n' Ride facility in Brisbane.

The largest Park 'n' Ride on the south is Sunnybank (219) spaces while out west Richlands reigns supreme with 638 and Many, with 230 spaces, is the hero of the East.

Of course there are bigger Park 'n' Ride facilities at Eight Mile Plains (858 spaces) and Carindale (270) but they purely service the bus network.

Transport and Main Roads Minister Mark Bailey said the government prides itself on the number of Park 'n' Ride facilities it has created or upgraded.

Just last week, a further 81 car park spaces were added to the Park n' Ride facility at Varsity Lakes on the Gold Coast.

"The Palaszczuk Government has given Park 'n' Rides a significant boost, committing $114 million at the election to build an additional 1600 park and ride spaces at transport hubs across SEQ," he said.

"As south east Queensland's population continues to grow, Labor is committed to taking more cars off the road and encouraging locals to use public transport.

"This includes the $44 million multi storey commuter car park at Springfield Central Station, as well as significant upgrades to the bus station Park 'n' Rides at Greenbank and Eight Mile Plains, and also the car parks at Lawnton, Geebung, Virginia and Lindum train stations."

A department of Transport and Main Roads spokesman said there were 158 Park 'n' Rides lots across the TransLink 'strain, bus, ferry and tram network.

The spokesman pointed to impending upgrades to bus and train station car parking facilities in the outer metropolitan areas.

"The sites earmarked for Park 'n' Ride expansion are Eight Mile Plains bus station, Greenbank bus Park 'n' Ride, and Geebung, Virginia, Lawnton, Lindum, Springfield Central, Salisbury, and Darra train stations," the spokesman said.

"Increased parking capacity will also be delivered at Dakabin train station as part of the Dakabin Station Upgrade Project."

[ozbob]

^ following on from the article above I just completed an interview (prerecorded  have school pickup duties this afternoon)  with Katherine Feeney Afternoons ABC Radio Brisbane.  Possibly will be on ~3.15pm today or so.  Could change though.

[ozbob]

^ following on from the article above I just completed an interview (prerecorded  have school pickup duties this afternoon)  with Katherine Feeney Afternoons ABC Radio Brisbane.  Possibly will be on ~3.15pm today or so.  Could change though.

Interview went to air around 3.15pm.  I managed to listen to it as I returned from the school run.
Should be able to download it later when show audio is made available.

:bi

[ozbob]

Interview with Kat Feeney Afternoons ABC Radio Brisbane

5th June 2018

> https://backontrack.org/docs/abcbris/abcbrisbane_5jun18.mp3

Discussion on need for feeder bus and active transport improvements rather then constant expansion of expensive park n' ride.

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/Robert_Dow/status/1003892160943362048

[Paul B]

More park and ride is just delaying bus reform. It has stifled the northside.
Reading some old forums here, I saw mention of wanting a BUZ 325 for hospital access.
6 years later and the network is still a mess.
How does the network go about getting changes incrementally made? Is it done by senior people only?
Is there a team of young route designers that all get a chance to learn/implement networks
in their younger years? ie a team of 10 all design a feeder network, and the best parts from each are used?
Or is this all shrouded in secrecy?

[ozbob]

Queensland Times 18th July 2018 page 5

Push to accelerate Park n' Ride build to under 4 years



https://twitter.com/Robert_Dow/status/1019316400404365312

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/Robert_Dow/status/1019321168237453312

[ozbob]

Couriermail --> Parking duopoly gives Brisbane highest short-term costs in nation

BRISBANE motorists are at the mercy of a carpark operator duopoly that is extracting the highest short-term-parking fees in the country, according to new research.

RACQ's latest CBD Parking Report has revealed Brisbane motorists are copping the highest off-street parking fees of any capital city for visits of an hour or less, and the second most expensive fees overall.

Brisbane parking rates have outstripped inflation since 2010-11 with the average weekday casual car parking rate in the CBD quadrupling since 2001, the report says.

The price of parking for 30 minutes in Brisbane ($16.98) was nearly double the cost in Melbourne ($9.41) and about 35 per cent more than Sydney ($12.50).

RACQ head of public policy Rebecca Michael said motorists were being ripped off and would start to shun the city in favour of suburban shopping centres where prices were cheaper or free.

"It's daylight robbery for motorists and sadly this just discourages them from coming to the CBD to go shopping or have meal," Dr Michael said.

The report found Wilson and Secure Parking operated the majority of parking stations in Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne, and the continued high parking prices suggested operators were "in a comfortable oligopoly position" to "extract maximum prices from motorists".

The report also found that more CBD businesses were buying or leasing off-street parking places for executives, reducing the proportion of spaces available for casual users.

"These car parks contribute to congestion as presumably many are used for the work commutes of senior managers," the report says.

Public servant Holly Vincent said she stopped driving in to the City, where she works, a few years ago due to the lack of parking spaces and because the commute was "pretty rubbish".

Ms Vincent said she would occasionally drive in on the weekend, however would seek out online parking deals before leaving.

The report also analysed on-street parking, finding the Brisbane CBD had the cheapest average hourly rate of $4.90 despite increasing 11 per cent in the past year.

"This is a good outcome for Brisbane but the large difference between on-street and off-street parking rates increases the volume of circulating traffic searching for an on-street space to save money," the report says.

"This can add substantially to the level of traffic within the CBD."

Dr Michael said motorists had to employ savvy tactics to avoid being slugged.

"Drivers should aim to support the cheaper carparks and plan their visits to the CBD by booking online and utilising early-bird rates," she said.

"Parking stations like King George Square or Wickham Terrace are operated by Brisbane City Council which sees them priced well below the average."

Brisbane CBD average weekday casual rates

30 mins $16.98 *highest in Australia

1 hr $28.71 (1.4 per cent increase) *highest in Australia

2 hrs $46.64 (1.7 per cent increase)

4 hrs $68.57 (0.4 per cent decrease)

8 hrs $72.52 (1.6 per cent decrease)

Highest maximum daily rate: $95

30-minute parking rates

Brisbane $16.98

Sydney $12.50

Melbourne $9.41

One-hour parking rates

Brisbane $28.71

Sydney $28.42

Melbourne $21.54

[SurfRail]

https://twitter.com/Robert_Dow/status/1019321168237453312

December 2013 was when Springfield Central opened.  Nearly 5 years and NOTHING done to fix the local bus services.  What an abject failure.