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Overall performance for 2010.  Consider timetable, congestion, routes, integration with other transport modes as applicable.

4 or less
1 (10%)
5
1 (10%)
6
4 (40%)
7
2 (20%)
8
2 (20%)
9
0 (0%)
10
0 (0%)

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Online ozbob

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Southern Region
« on: November 28, 2010, 07:30:57 AM »
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Re: Southern Region
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2010, 12:59:28 PM »
At least there is a busway even if too many routes run along it.  Feed to the Busway not smother it!!!!

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Re: Southern Region
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2010, 10:45:39 AM »
6/10.

- Busway is great.  Services off the busway are not.
- Rail co-ordination is still 3rd rate.
- Go Card has helped on time running of local services.
- We BADLY need a usable bus service to the Brisbane Technology Park @ Eight Mile Plains.  Token effort at present isn't cutting it.

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Re: Southern Region
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2010, 12:51:18 PM »
Assuming that Logan Buses is included in "South"

Pros:
Can add value on the buses (except for pre-paid routes which is understandable !)
Routes are good for me at least
Finally have a add-value machine at Springwood !

Cons:
Drivers still lock the machine at a set location for entire journey - everyone gets stung with charges
New add-value machine put in service but not tested that it can actually read cards.... sigh...
Drivers now say their on-board system is "not working" to add value when you are at Springwood. Hmmm - suspicious
Scheduled "off peak" services too infrequent - or the definition of peak needs to be stretched in the evening. Not everyone finishes at 5pm.




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Re: Southern Region
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2010, 01:26:26 PM »
Hi IanB,

In regards to 'Drivers still lock the machine at a set location for the entire journey'.  This is most likely a fault with the GPS reciever that tracks the bus and allows the Go Card Driver Console Unit to highlight the correct stop automatically so the correct fare can be charged.  There has been recorded instances where for reasons unknown, probably hardware related, that the GPS reciever fails and the stops don't flip through the list so to speak. 

The drivers do have an obligation to override the GPS but it seems that it's either a failure of driver training, or driver culture between either the equipment or even management of the bus company that said driver works for, that the driver decides or does not notice that the same stop you may of touched on at is still locked in place 20 stops down the road for example.  It's an ongoing problem.

The best way an everyday passenger can spot a failed GPS is if the readers remain open beyond the bus stop, ie: they fail to go from 'Please Touch Your Go Card' to 'Please Wait...'.  If it remains on 'Please Touch Your Go Card' for your entire trip on that particular bus, then you should ask the driver to override the GPS, failing that, if your registered, send the details to TransLink of your records eg: 23-Nov-10 10:16:09 AM    Cancel touch on    Birkdale Station [56372] 23-Nov-10 09:57:54 AM Touch on Birkdale Station [56372]. 

If you've incurred a penalty fare (also known as a fixed fare), ie: you touch on and don't touch off until after 20mins has elasped and the GPS has failed, then you are entitled to a refund.       
   

somebody

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Re: Southern Region
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2010, 02:50:04 PM »
- Rail co-ordination is still 3rd rate.
What's the point with co-ordinating with such a poor rail service?

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Re: Southern Region
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2010, 02:55:53 PM »
- Rail co-ordination is still 3rd rate.
What's the point with co-ordinating with such a poor rail service?
What, and deny people (like me) who live in a predominantly rail served suburb a choice?

Just because the rail service is a bit ordinary is no reason to ignore it!  That's the kind of thinking that has got us where we are now.

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Re: Southern Region
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2010, 03:06:02 PM »
Co-ordination is vital if the service frequency is slow. Absolutely.
If the service frequencies are high, then co-ordination is not required, because the waiting time for the connection will be minimal.
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Re: Southern Region
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2010, 03:06:41 PM »
Ok, but it isn't the main priority.

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Re: Southern Region
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2010, 05:53:29 PM »
- Reliability is still very good. A few routes have their issues, but overall I'd say it's better than most areas.
- I know it's standard for the suburban regions, but the operating hours are still awful. Most routes have nothing at all in the evenings and some still have no Sunday service. What happened to those "minimum service standards"?
- Rail co-ordination is inconsistent, some routes do it well, though of course only in one direction. Others may as well not stop at the station at all.
- Routes (mostly unchanged the last few years) are generally pretty good, a . There could be a bit of tweaking to give faster east-west links.
- Facilities are not the best. It's better than it once was, but there's still not enough sheltered bus stops, and the upgrades we have had (bus stations) have consistently failed to deliver everything that was promised. The train stations are pretty universally run down (though I take it some are earmarked for upgrades).

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Re: Southern Region
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2010, 05:43:26 PM »
Score 6.3
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