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Overall performance for 2010.  Consider timetable, congestion, routes, integration with other transport modes as applicable.

4 or less
4 (30.8%)
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3 (23.1%)
6
2 (15.4%)
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4 (30.8%)
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0 (0%)
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0 (0%)
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0 (0%)

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Offline ozbob

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« on: November 28, 2010, 07:27:01 AM »
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Re: Brisbane West
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2010, 01:08:41 PM »
No bus lanes, no buway, scary network of routes.  Stuck on Coronation Drive.

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Re: Brisbane West
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2010, 01:43:20 PM »
Coronation Drive and Moggill Road = Fail

This area is a bottleneck and a perfect opportunity to allow priority of PT to improve travel times.
Even interchange of pax from most routes at Indooroopilly to train (bus + train) would be faster for PT users if the increase in bus frequency resulting from turning back terminating buses to do another run (and therefore decrease in travel times for people waiting at bus stops on the street) is factored in. It would also escape congestion on Coro and Moggill Roads.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2010, 01:45:48 PM by tramtrain »
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Re: Brisbane West
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2010, 03:26:50 PM »
In spite of complaints about still mediocre routings in both directions, complete lack of timetable co-ordination between routes and lousy city stop locations, the 444 makes the service overall pretty good.

Offline Emmie

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Re: Brisbane West
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2010, 05:32:52 AM »
I'm marking it up from last year because of the great improvement in the 412 BUZ.

Coro Drive is a terrible bottleneck, but not easily fixed. Last time there were bus lanes, they didn't work properly because they completely misjudged the tidal flow, assuming that most cars were coming FROM the west in the morning, and vice versa, and completely neglecting the counterflow to UQ and Wesley, amongst other large destinations.

I'd like to see more use of the bus/train interchange at Roma St for western services.


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Re: Brisbane West
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2010, 08:42:19 AM »
I'm marking it up from last year because of the great improvement in the 412 BUZ.

Coro Drive is a terrible bottleneck, but not easily fixed. Last time there were bus lanes, they didn't work properly because they completely misjudged the tidal flow, assuming that most cars were coming FROM the west in the morning, and vice versa, and completely neglecting the counterflow to UQ and Wesley, amongst other large destinations.

I'd like to see more use of the bus/train interchange at Roma St for western services.
Disagree with the last point.

With the Coro tidal flow, I expect the Green bridge has made a big difference.  Better counter peak frequency on the Ipswich line in the new timetable will help a bit, but it still falls short of the mark.

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Re: Brisbane West
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2010, 08:51:18 AM »
Before/after comparison of route 412 shows that patronage on it was unaffected by the introduction of green bridge bus services.
Not sure about the traffic situation, but our friends at the RACQ could tell us:

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The 2.65km inbound section of Coronation Drive from Benson Street to Hale Street averaged over two minutes and 40 seconds faster in 2010 compared with 2007 survey results. The tidal flow system has been removed from Coronation Drive since the 2007 survey. The Go-Between Bridge was not open during the 2010 survey period.

http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=4770.0

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Re: Brisbane West
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2010, 09:18:38 AM »
Isn't 2007 after the opening of the green bridge?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_Schonell_Bridge
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The bridge was opened on December 17, 2006

And isn't the 109 busier than the old 407, by quite a margin?

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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2010, 05:44:55 PM »
Score 5.9
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