2011 Timetable changes

[somebody]

- The spacing out of services needs to be much better after 2:30pm (what's with the every 18 minutes after 2:30pm)

18 minutes is a lot better than 30 minutes, although it would be better to have a consistent 9 minute frequency here rather than 6 minutes then 12 minutes alternating.

- Also, Auchenflower to Taringa and Chelmer to Oxley only get a slightly improved service from off-peak frequencies (every 12 minutes). Perhaps every 6 minutes as per AM peak? (Do people only catch the train to work?). I suppose they have left this gap for future City-Redbank services?

On this point and your previous point, with the exception of Toowong and Oxley and the above qualification, I support the way it is done here.

Looks like Rosewood-Ipswich will be a big winner.

Not sure how you figure.  They are losing some through trains and still have a base hourly frequency.

Weekend timetable is terribly confusing. Why not have Saturday services run on Sundays as well?

Agree.

Remember when the drivers were going to strike because they were being asked to work the same number of Sundays as Saturdays?  If I remember correctly, QR backed down on this, which means we have to put up with different timetables and less frequent services for Sunday compared to Saturday.

Didn't know that.  I have zero sympathy for the drivers here.  If they want to work in an industry which operates at unsociable hours, how can they strike when asked to do that work?

[#Metro]

From the QR Passenger Load Survey here ---> http://www.qrnational.com.au/MediaCentre/MediaReleases/Documents/Passenger_Load_Survey_2009.pdf

Boardings AM Inbound 2009
Milton - 420
Toowong - 1069

Alightings PM Outbound 2009
Milton - 473
Toowong - 945


IMHO, exchange Milton with a stop at Toowong instead.

[ozbob]

Need to consider alightings inbound too.  But figures confirm in my mind that I think Toowong is being bypassed on the proposed express pattern to load balance.

Another consideration is that the decision to bypass Toowong may be a deliberate strategy to load balance between expresses and the all stoppers?

So I think the thinking probably goes like this.

Largely irrelevant how many board inbound peak as all stoppers coming through very regular and Toowong is only hop skip and jump from town anyway.  A more critical question is how many potentially get off?

Outbound, all stoppers frequent even to dump the Toowong pax without overloading the Ippy express trains, and so doing a better run for the express trains and even up loading a bit.  Again the more critical question is how many would get on?

I suspect this might be the reason for the pattern Darra - Indro - Milton - Town

[Derwan]

Don't forget that Milton will (supposedly) be a TOD in the not-too-distant future.  Can't have services running express through it!

[somebody]

Just as importantly is the numbers of people getting off at Indro heading inbound.  I see 3 main reasons to get off at Indro:
1) You work at or are going to the shopping centre
2) You work at the Indooroopilly Sciences Centre or CSIRO in Meiers Rd
3) You want to use a 427/428/432 bus to get to UQ.

Reason (2) will not apply by the time the timetable takes effect as these workers are moving.  Reason (3) should be discouraged, strongly, by the system.  The only valid reason why people should be getting off AM inbound trains at Indooroopilly is for heading to the shops or some other local business.

I don't know, I think load balancing is a pretty lame exercise.

[david]

Need to consider alightings inbound too.  But figures confirm in my mind that I think Toowong is being bypassed on the proposed express pattern to load balance

From the 2009 Passenger Load Survey (which may be relatively outdated) p.38

Alightings (Inbound direction) Morning Peak
1 - Central
2 - Roma St
3 - Fortitude Valley
4 - Bowen Hills
5 - South Bank
6 - South Brisbane
7 - Toowong
8 - Indooroopilly
9 - Milton

Boardings (Outbound direction) Afternoon Peak
1 - Central
2 - Roma St
3 - Fortitude Valley
4 - South Bank
5 - Bowen Hills
6 - South Brisbane
7 - Indooroopilly
8 - Toowong
9 - Milton

As mentioned previously, the figures may be outdated, but it just goes to show that Toowong should definitely be a stop on the express pattern.

As for the TOD at Milton, the current proposal does not incorporate any office space, so it'll just be residential. Hence, there will be an increase in Milton to City passengers, rather than Ipswich to Milton passengers

[ozbob]

I think they are load balancing, they know the data.  I may be wrong with that assumption but why else would the pattern be as proposed?

It is pointless having the expresses overloaded and the all stoppers half empty.

But I am sure there is going to be a lot of feedback on this and they may well include Toowong.

[ozbob]

Just as importantly is the numbers of people getting off at Indro heading inbound.  I see 3 main reasons to get off at Indro:
1) You work at or are going to the shopping centre
2) You work at the Indooroopilly Sciences Centre or CSIRO in Meiers Rd
3) You want to use a 427/428/432 bus to get to UQ.

4. Go to school in Indooroopilly ...

[somebody]

I think they are load balancing, they know the data.  I may be wrong with that assumption but why else would the pattern be as proposed?

It is pointless having the expresses overloaded and the all stoppers half empty.

But I am sure there is going to be a lot of feedback on this and they may well include Toowong.

There is actually no real increase in train frequency in the AM peak, more or less.  Only 6 trains added, less 2 trains via Tennyson by my count.  I think the increase is probably from having the peak service last longer.  Nor is there any earlier inbound trains weekday or weekend.

4. Go to school in Indooroopilly ...

Good point.  Are there many private schools around?  Pretty sure there is one on Harts Rd and another on Central Av.  Does QLD have the same rule as NSW that you must go to the nearest state school, if you go to a state school?

[ozbob]

http://www.ourindooroopilly.com/oischools.html

Three major schools in Indooroopilly, boosts the pax count.

[johnnigh]

Harts Rd, St Peters Lutheran School for the Overprivileged. Central Ave, just another pariochial Catholic School, may or may not be overprivileged.

And, no, State Schools don't have areas in any significant way. That's why lots of kids get driven around to the 'best' primary schools - Corinda chn to Graceville etc.

But I have a question: with the increased peak period and off peak frequency, will passengers be allowed to use the Anzac Sq tunnel after 6?

[ozbob]

will passengers be allowed to use the Anzac Sq tunnel after 6?

Good question, we should raise that all in the 'consultation' ..

[colinw]

Coming in late here (10 hours out of sync being in the UK at present).

To me this looks like a useful rewrite of the Ipswich line timetable, and on balance is a positive move.  I would have liked to have seen the quarter hourly frequency extend further (specifically Petrie, setting up the core sector of a future Springfield to Kippa-Ring service), but then I don't have any information about crew or rollingstock availability so that may simply be impossible at this time.

The only big mistake I can see is missing Toowong from the express pattern in peak, and agree that Milton must stay due to the forthcoming TOD.

I guess half hourly offpeak Richlands service is also a mild disappointment, but I'm not declaring war on that one because I'm certain it is interim.

Regarding loss of Tennyson, I view that as a temporary measure that will change in future when CRR goes ahead, freeing up Merivale Bridge capacity & eliminating many junction conflicts at Yeerongpilly.  For now, capacity on the Merivale Bridge is too valuable to waste on "via Tennyson" services - better to use those slots for trains from Cleveland, Beenleigh or Gold Coast.  Post 2016, I hope & expect to see a cross linking service via Tennyson come back in a big way.  The proximity of the back part of the Yeerongpilly TOD to Tennyson station alone should dictate use of that station will return.

The same concern about scarce Merivale Bridge capacity leads me to dislike trains from the northside terminating at South Bank.  If a train is routed across Merivale Bridge, it should proceed a reasonable distance down one of the southside lines, not terminate at South Bank - particularly given how pathetic the frequency becomes once you are past Park Rd in either direction.

I look forward to seeing what the next moves in this game are going to be, and am hanging out for my quarter hourly service at Kuraby.  Right now I'm rather envious of you Ipswich Line people.  

Over all a commendable effort, but now we've had a taste we want more!

Lets keep it positive people - we might not all have exactly what we want, but this is definitely a move in the right direction.

[Emmie]

Lets keep it positive people - we might not all have exactly what we want, but this is definitely a move in the right direction.

Agreed. We've all been (rightly) highlighting the problems, but in general, these are significant improvements, which need to be acknowledged. Thanks Bob, for your advocacy in all this.

[Mozz]

Another factor in supporting a Toowong stop is that it provides (albeit 400m away) a connection to the citycat services in peak to southbank (convention centre as well), new farm and other points east on the river.

[Cam]

I tend to agree with ozbob regarding load balancing being the reason to include Milton in the express stopping pattern but not Toowong. I went through the Passenger load figures from 2009 & I believe that including both Milton & Toowong in the express stopping pattern will overload these services between the two stations causing delays.

I think that the debate regarding which of the two stations to stop at confirms to me that Ipswich line expresses require two stopping patterns in peak periods when additional services are provided in the coming years:

1) Express Roma St to Darra, Redbank then all to Ipswich/Rosewood.

2) Roma St, Milton, Toowong, Indooroopilly, Oxley, Darra, Goodna, Redbank then all to Ipswich. Corinda's patronage suggests that perhaps it should also be included in this stopping patern.

Gailes & Wacol can be serviced by all stations to Redbank services in the future. Wacol's current patronage would indicate that it should be included in express stopping pattern 2. However, if Darra is well serviced by buses from the Centenary suburbs and Richlands by buses from Inala & Forest Lake, I think that patronage will siginficantly decline to/from Wacol. Also, the fact that Wacol is in the next zone compared to Gailes no doubt increases patronage.

EDIT: added Corinda as a possible stop for pattern 2.

[Stillwater]

I am looking at the revised timetable to Gympie North and wonder why a 5 minute stopping time is allowed for Traveston.  It must have something to do with Traveston's short platform, but passengers alighting there are normally advised to move to the first car.  Passengers get on and off at the first car only.

[skippy]

Corinda station results... Comparing current to draft timetables

Corinda to City (inbound)
1 extra service departing Corinda between first service and 9am.
5 less services departing Corinda
10 extra off peak services
Minimum wait time: Current timetable 1mins, draft timetable 6mins - an increased minimum wait time of 5mins
Average wait (peak): Current timetable 8mins, draft timetable 11mins - an increased average wait time of 3mins
Average wait (off peak): Current timetable 19mins, draft timetable 15mins

The minimum wait time comparison is nice but not a critical. What is important is the maximum wait time in the peak and off-peak.  For my station Taringa the comparison is:

Maximum wait time (am peak): Current timetable 13 mins (7.24, 7.37), draft timetable 12 mins (7.08, 7.20) - an improvement of 1min
Maximum wait  (off peak): Current timetable 30 mins (weekends and after 6.30pm weekdays), draft timetable 15 mins - an improvement of 15mins


There are a number of other examples where standaisation has improved the maximum wait time. eg. Roma St - Corinda, Current timetable has a 23 min wait after 8.19am. The draft timetable maximum wait is 15 mins.

[Luke]

It really is a joke that Petrie isn't going to have a 15 mins off peak frequency like Darra is.  Once again the northside continues to be ignored.

[david]

I tend to agree with ozbob regarding load balancing being the reason to include Milton in the express stopping pattern but not Toowong. I went through the Passenger load figures from 2009 & I believe that including both Milton & Toowong in the express stopping pattern will overload these services between the two stations causing delays.

Sorry but I can't say that I agree to this statement. With the frequency being proposed, overloading should not be an issue at Toowong, especially since most people will go for the potentially emptier all-stations from Richlands services. The time difference between the express from Toowong and all-stations from Toowong will be minimal. I think that people Ipswich to Wacol passengers should have access to Toowong as a one-seat journey. Toowong is an important DESTINATION, not just a place where lots of people board the train, so this needs to be considered.

If there needed to be a choice between Milton and Toowong, I'd go Toowong, since the draft timetable seems to allow for transfers between the express from Ipswich and the counter-peak service at Roma St making it VERY easy to backtrack to Milton. But why not have both stops? I mean, if you look at the Caboolture timetable, the express trains are stopping all stations between Northgate and Bowen Hills. Are they also applying load balancing in this instance too?

[somebody]

Stopping at Milton would have no effect on loadings.  From the 2009 Passenger load survey:

	Inbound AM Boardings	Inbound AM Alightings	Outbound PM Boardings	Outbound PM alightings
Milton	420	477	433	473
Toowong	1069	569	550	945
Indooroopilly	1582	756	494	1446

So just as many people are getting off at Milton as are getting on.

Swapping Toowong for Indooroopilly would push some pax from the expresses to the all stoppers, but I still think load balancing is a very lame exercise.

And why haven't the 2010 Passenger Load Survey figures been released?  Is Translink secrecy getting worse?

It really is a joke that Petrie isn't going to have a 15 mins off peak frequency like Darra is.  Once again the northside continues to be ignored.

Darra is only getting it because of the branch.

What is a joke is the addition of stops at all stations between Northgate and Bowen Hills.

I tend to agree with ozbob regarding load balancing being the reason to include Milton in the express stopping pattern but not Toowong. I went through the Passenger load figures from 2009 & I believe that including both Milton & Toowong in the express stopping pattern will overload these services between the two stations causing delays.

I think that the debate regarding which of the two stations to stop at confirms to me that Ipswich line expresses require two stopping patterns in peak periods when additional services are provided in the coming years:

1) Express Roma St to Darra, Redbank then all to Ipswich/Rosewood.

2) Roma St, Milton, Toowong, Indooroopilly, Oxley, Darra, Goodna, Redbank then all to Ipswich. Corinda's patronage suggests that perhaps it should also be included in this stopping patern.

Gailes & Wacol can be serviced by all stations to Redbank services in the future. Wacol's current patronage would indicate that it should be included in express stopping pattern 2. However, if Darra is well serviced by buses from the Centenary suburbs and Richlands by buses from Inala & Forest Lake, I think that patronage will siginficantly decline to/from Wacol. Also, the fact that Wacol is in the next zone compared to Gailes no doubt increases patronage.

EDIT: added Corinda as a possible stop for pattern 2.

That would be about right once there is additional infrastructure supporting Redbank terminators and the Springfield line has been done.  Although I wouldn't stop at Corinda for pattern 2.  I was thinking of a stop at Goodna for pattern 1, but then why?  If you are missing Oxley and Indro, why would you stop at Goodna.

especially since most people will go for the potentially emptier all-stations from Richlands services.

No one should EVER have to let a train go by because it is too full.  Well, perhaps after a game or concert.  But in a regular peak?  *NO*.

[#Metro]

And why haven't the 2010 Passenger Load Survey figures been released?  Is Translink secrecy getting worse?

What about the orange "garbage bin" survey that happened last August IIRC. What happened to that? Completely fell off the radar along with the results of the Airtrain meetings...

[Golliwog]

Somebody, I totally disagree with your comments RE: changing at Indro station to get to UQ, and anywhere in the area really. Encouraging people to use PT is about making whatever trip they want to make on it possible. Who are we to say that if they want to change at Indro to get to UQ that they can't? If it provides them with a shorter trip, or the trip destination they want then I say let them. Just because we currently have the 412/402 set up from Toowong doesn't mean that should be the only option.

Also, RE: No one in peak should ever have to wait for a non full train, with our current frequency, maybe. But if the frequency was much higher then deal with it. I forget which station on Londons Tube it was (I think Canary Wharf?, somewhere near there at least) but they had trains coming roughly every 3 minutes and also had door partitions on the platforms. With the crowds there just in the standard peak you were waiting until the 2nd if not 3rd train to pull in before you were at the front and could get on. No one complained, didn't even look annoyed.

[O_128]

And why haven't the 2010 Passenger Load Survey figures been released?  Is Translink secrecy getting worse?

What about the orange "garbage bin" survey that happened last August IIRC. What happened to that? Completely fell off the radar along with the results of the Airtrain meetings...

Those orange bins are still at manly station with the surveys most likely rotting away.

All in all it really is to little to late.

I was honestly expecting

PEAK
every 7 min richlands to CBD
every 7 min Petrie to CBD
Every 10 min Ipswich to CBD express darra to Roma street with stops at indooroopilly, toowong and milton
Every 10 min Caboolture to CBD express Petrie to Bowen Hills with stops at Northgate and eagle junction and later down the track at carseldine and straphpine as the business centre and busways connections come online.
Im not to familiar with the shorncliffe line but a frequency upgrade to every 12 mins or better create a combined frequency of every 5 mins or so on the northgate owen hills section.

OFF PEAK

Every 15 min to richlands
Every 15 min to Ipswich with express pattern.

Lets hope that this "consulation" is really what it is and not the usual crap the government expects us to take.

[ozbob]

From the Queensland Times click here!

150,000 new seats on Ipswich line

150,000 new seats on Ipswich line

18th November 2010

IPSWICH train commuters are the biggest winners in Queensland Rail's biggest timetable shake-up in more than a decade, with 150,000 more seats a week added to the Ipswich line.

Ipswich MP and Transport Minister Rachel Nolan said customers would be asked to comment on the new timetables over the next three weeks. Depending on the feedback from customers, the services will be delivered in the first half of 2011.

Under the revision, more peak-hour trains will be leaving Ipswich for Brisbane.

Trips to Brisbane will be faster on several peak hour services, with trains running express between Darra and the Brisbane CBD, stopping only at Indooroopilly and Milton.

There are also additional peak and off-peak services to Nambour and Rosewood providing a cost effective option for those travelling between regions.

Rail Back on Track spokesman Robert Dow said his commuter advocacy group thought the changes simplified the timetable and made them more efficient.

Information sessions will be held later this month. For timetable and information session details, visit www.translink.com.au or call 13 12 30.

[Emmie]

Another factor in supporting a Toowong stop is that it provides (albeit 400m away) a connection to the citycat services in peak to southbank (convention centre as well), new farm and other points east on the river.

This is a good point. It's a very easy walk to the Regatta ferry stop, with the overpass across the road.

More generally, Toowong is a major interchange for many buses to the western suburbs. Milton isn't, since it's too far from Coronation Drive, and buses along Milton Rd are more limited, and caught in more congestion. 

[BrizCommuter]

And why haven't the 2010 Passenger Load Survey figures been released?  Is Translink secrecy getting worse?

I have now asked TransLink 3 times for a copy of this document. Every request so far has been ignored.

[ozbob]

Daughter number one reports A3 size copies of the draft Ippy timetable being handed out this morning.  Grab me a few I said ..

[ozbob]

And why haven't the 2010 Passenger Load Survey figures been released?  Is Translink secrecy getting worse?

I have now asked TransLink 3 times for a copy of this document. Every request so far has been ignored.

If this stalemate continues we might have to put in a RTI request ...

[#Metro]

All in all it really is to little to late.

I was honestly expecting

PEAK
every 7 min richlands to CBD
every 7 min Petrie to CBD
Every 10 min Ipswich to CBD express darra to Roma street with stops at indooroopilly, toowong and milton
Every 10 min Caboolture to CBD express Petrie to Bowen Hills with stops at Northgate and eagle junction and later down the track at carseldine and straphpine as the business centre and busways connections come online.
Im not to familiar with the shorncliffe line but a frequency upgrade to every 12 mins or better create a combined frequency of every 5 mins or so on the northgate owen hills section.

OFF PEAK

Every 15 min to richlands
Every 15 min to Ipswich with express pattern.

I am surprised that we haven't seen the whole UrbanLink thing come online. I don't like the way it is being publicised as 150 000 new seats, because many of them will be one station extensions that previously terminated at Corinda, now extending to Darra, or Darra now extending to Richlands... am I being too harsh???

Perth is still WAY ahead...

[ozbob]

Yes,  they are counting new services.  Remember the Corinda week day off peak terminators were only for  the time between the peaks. 

What I would like to see is the interim Richlands timetable ..

[Cam]

Stopping at Milton would have no effect on loadings.  From the 2009 Passenger load survey:

	Inbound AM Boardings	Inbound AM Alightings	Outbound PM Boardings	Outbound PM alightings
Milton	420	477	433	473
Toowong	1069	569	550	945
Indooroopilly	1582	756	494	1446

So just as many people are getting off at Milton as are getting on.

Milton is well balanced.
If the express services stopped at Toowong on the AM inbound trip, there would effectively be about 500 / 2 = 250 extra passengers on these services between Toowong & Roma St  and about 400 / 2 = 200 extra passengers on the PM outbound trips.

The concern that there will be delays at Toowong whilst these extra passengers try to board express services that are at capacity may explain why the express services are not timetabled to stop at Toowong. If the inbound express services were forecast to have spare capacity at Toowong then I think Toowong is the better option to stop at. Likewise, if the outbound express services were forecast to have spare capacity at Roma Street then I think that Toowong would be the better option to stop at.

However, I don't think that this will be the case. In particular, I think that the 12 minute frequency of the PM outbound express services will mean that they are full leaving Roma Street - the 5.06pm & 5.18pm will be absolutley packed without extra passengers for Toowong.

EDIT: Spelling

[Cam]

I am surprised that we haven't seen the whole UrbanLink thing come online.

"Rail commuters travelling to the city from Redbank, Strathpine, LoganLea, Ferny Grove, Manly and the Brisbane Airport would be the first to benefit from a staged roll-out of more frequent, higher capacity rail services, which will be named UrbanLink services," Ms Nolan said.

http://www.cabinet.qld.gov.au/mms/StatementDisplaySingle.aspx?id=71319

This statement was made less than 3 months ago. Redbank has lost 5 afternoon peak outbound services in the proposed 2011 timetable (mainly) because the Redbank terminating services have been removed. I don't think that Strathpine has benefitted either.

Perhaps Ms Nolan's statement would have been more timely if made well after the introduction of the 2011 timetable to appease those who have lost services with it's introduction.

[Fares_Fair]

Just saw the draft this morning for the first time.
This Draft 2011 timetable is an absolute disaster for sunshine coast commuters !!!!!
I'm appalled by it.

More to come ....


Regards,
Fares_fair

[somebody]

Somebody, I totally disagree with your comments RE: changing at Indro station to get to UQ, and anywhere in the area really. Encouraging people to use PT is about making whatever trip they want to make on it possible. Who are we to say that if they want to change at Indro to get to UQ that they can't? If it provides them with a shorter trip, or the trip destination they want then I say let them. Just because we currently have the 412/402 set up from Toowong doesn't mean that should be the only option.

I can go along with these comments only if you are thinking of reaching different destinations on Swann Rd or Central Av.  And are you saying that the bit of the 427 which runs Ward St/Central Av/Lambert Rd and then back to Clarence Rd rather than just continuing down Clarence Rd is appropriate?  I would doubt that there would be a difficulty with a bus making the Clarence Rd/Westminster Rd turn in the other direction.

Also, RE: No one in peak should ever have to wait for a non full train, with our current frequency, maybe. But if the frequency was much higher then deal with it. I forget which station on Londons Tube it was (I think Canary Wharf?, somewhere near there at least) but they had trains coming roughly every 3 minutes and also had door partitions on the platforms. With the crowds there just in the standard peak you were waiting until the 2nd if not 3rd train to pull in before you were at the front and could get on. No one complained, didn't even look annoyed.

Maybe, and you would see the same thing leaving Sydney's Olympic Park during the Olympics, and to a much, much lesser degree for other events at Olympic Park although that is what I was referring to with sporting events or concerts.  I do not think anything like that is happening anytime soon in SEQ.

[Golliwog]

I do like the more direct route there, but would you lose patronage because you've moved the catchment area closer to the railway and have less residential area covered? And I still don't see what your problem with people changing at Indro to get to UQ is.

[somebody]

It's the increased operating cost which I don't like.

I don't think you'd lose patronage.  Only weird trips would lose out.

[timbo]

Totally agree with Fares Fare. The Sunshine Coast draft is no improvement. What happened to express services? Why stop at inner city stations?
Currently 45 - 50 mins between Caboolture and Central weekdays am. Proposed, 50 to 58 mins. Not good enough.

Still the forgotten ones........

[Arnz]

Nambour to Elimbah
   * Connections between express and all stations services will be available at either Caboolture or Petrie stations. This will provide Sunshine Coast commuters with access to stations between Morayfield and Virginia.
   * Six morning peak express services will arrive at Central station between 6am and 9am.
   * Six afternoon peak services will depart Central station between 3.30pm and 6.30pm.
   * Some changes to the express services will be implemented to maximise the capacity of the network, including:
         o Sunshine Coast express services will now stop all stations between Northgate and Bowen Hills
         o some Sunshine Coast services will stop between Caboolture and Petrie.
   * Off-peak and weekend passengers will benefit from trains which will operate every 90 minutes
   * The timetable of the 649 RailBus service will change to integrate with the new rail timetable.

2 extra services introduced (1 extra peak service in each direction).  a 3:30pm afternoon peak and a 5:30am (filling in the 5am and 5:50am gap).
The waiting gap on weekdays has been reduced to roughly every 90 minutes (just shuffling around of trains).  Railbuses still operate inbetween the 90 min gaps.

I am still concerned however that QR may breach its own "zero harm policy" again to screw over Sunshine Coast commuters by replacing the 2 early morning 3-car IMUs, the 5pm 6-car IMU and the evening 3-car IMUs with non-toilet EMU/SMUs.

[somebody]

And why haven't the 2010 Passenger Load Survey figures been released?  Is Translink secrecy getting worse?

I have now asked TransLink 3 times for a copy of this document. Every request so far has been ignored.

If this stalemate continues we might have to put in a RTI request ...

I think this is just part of a bigger issue with the whole secrecy attitude, which has to stop.  I don't know if a media release would be appropriate or not.  In any event, it isn't the right time, with the consultation process looking like a goer.