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New Services Tally - by July 2011
« on: October 29, 2010, 05:44:57 PM »
We have a new target of 305,000 seats per week by July 2011.  Let's keep count.  :)
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Re: New Services Tally - by July 2011
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2010, 05:47:47 PM »
I'm assuming they haven't given a breakdown of how many on each mode?
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Re: New Services Tally - by July 2011
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2010, 06:55:06 PM »
I was wondering about that.  Perhaps Bob can use his connections to find out.  :)
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Re: New Services Tally - by July 2011
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2010, 07:02:14 PM »
Probably, they have "learnt" from last time, when they didn't want to deliver rail services.

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Re: New Services Tally - by July 2011
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2010, 03:58:44 PM »
761 will now go to half hourly from hourly.

http://www.cabinet.qld.gov.au/MMS/StatementDisplaySingle.aspx?id=73004

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Minister for Transport
The Honourable Rachel Nolan

Thursday, December 16, 2010

Increase in frequency for route 761 buses

Bus services on route 761 between Tweed Heads and Robina will benefit from a $730,000 improvement package to increase frequency early next year.

Transport Minister Rachel Nolan said the improvements will increase frequency from hourly to half-hourly between 7am and 7pm on weekdays and 7am – 6pm on the weekends.

“This is excellent news for the Gold Coast and demonstrates the Bligh Government’s commitment to providing more regular transport services to the region,” Ms Nolan said.

“This service has had an average of over 4000 passengers a week since it was introduced in June 2010 and I expect this number to soar with the additional services.”

The new package will add an additional 164 services each week, or nearly 8000 seats.

Route 761 connects Tweed Heads through to the Gold Coast Airport, on to The Pines Shopping Centre and Varsity Lakes and Robina train stations and is funded by State Government and Gold Coast City Council.

Ms Nolan commended Gold Coast City Council for their continued commitment to public transport through their financial support.

Gold Coast Mayor, Ron Clarke, said Council contributed nearly $8 million annually to support additional public transport services for the city.

“This helps us improve the frequency of regular bus connections and also makes it possible to provide other services,” Cr Clarke said.

He said expanding Route 761 services would prove a benefit for both residents along the western M1 corridor and visitors needing a rail-air connection.

“Route 761 provides a vital link between the Gold Coast Airport and Varsity Lakes railway station. It is used by visitors and residents alike.

“It also complements the popular route 702 from the airport along the Gold Coast Highway, giving visitors an alternate route north,” Cr Clarke said.

Departure times on route 755 between Pacific Fair and Robina will be bought forward two minutes to ensure the best driver and vehicle utilisation, following the scheduling of the additional route 761 trips.

For more information on public transport, visit www.translink.com.au or phone the Call Centre on 13 12 30, available 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

Media contact: Chris Ward 0418 424 654

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Re: New Services Tally - by July 2011
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2010, 04:02:21 PM »
I am happy for the Gold Coast commuters.

.. and what does the Sunshine Coast get ??

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Re: New Services Tally - by July 2011
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2010, 04:18:52 PM »
Sunshine coast did get some upgrades.  Some details here: http://busaustralia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=56205

Cataloging the seats from the upgrades:
New rail timetables: 150 000
Route P88: 44 000
Extra 555s: 5 400
Redcliffe upgrades: 6 500
Extra 761s: 8 000
Western Region upgrades: unknown
Sunshine Coast upgrades: 11 000
P546: unknown
N798: unknown

Total of claimed seats added/announced: 224 900.
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Re: New Services Tally - by July 2011
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2010, 12:15:36 PM »
Service improvements - 29 October to 31 December 2010

Route 88 crosses south-west - http://statements.cabinet.qld.gov.au/MMS/StatementDisplaySingle.aspx?id=72787
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Brisbane’s newest high frequency bus service — Route 88 — will ease congestion in Brisbane’s southern and western suburbs adding more than 41,000 weekly seats from next month.

Transport Minister Rachel Nolan said from Monday December 13, Route 88 would run from Eight Mile Plains to Indooroopilly via the South East Busway, Captain Cook Bridge, Coronation Drive and Moggill Road, to ease congestion on the South East Busway.

11,000 new seats and a new permanent airport bus service - http://www.translink.com.au/about-translink/reporting-and-publications/media-releases/release/251
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Sunshine Coast residents will soon have more than 11,000 new weekly bus seats under a new $1.2 million bus improvement package.

Transport Minister Rachel Nolan said the Queensland Government in partnership with Sunshine Coast Regional Council were delivering 248 extra bus services each week across the Sunshine Coast from Monday, December 13.

A bus to Brisbane every 15 minutes, seven days a week - http://www.translink.com.au/about-translink/reporting-and-publications/media-releases/release/250
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Buses between Logan City and Brisbane will run every 15 minutes, seven days a week from Monday 20 December.

Transport Minister Rachel Nolan said bus route 555 (Loganholme bus station to Brisbane City) would become one of South East Queensland's highest frequency bus routes.

"More than 30,000 people use this route each week and I expect this number to soar with the additional services," Ms Nolan said.

"The State Government will deliver an extra 120 services, which is an additional 5400 seats on route 555 each week."


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Re: New Services Tally - by July 2011
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2010, 12:23:02 PM »
New Services Tally to 31 December 2010

Bus:
New Route P88 - 41,000 new seats
Sunshine Coast improvements - 11,000 new seats
Route 555 upgrades - 5,400 new seats
Total - 57,400 new seats

Train:
Total - No new seats

Ferry:
Total - No new seats

Total new seats delivered to 31/12/2010 - 57,400 new seats out of 305,000 new seats promised
% of new seats delivered - 18.82%

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Re: New Services Tally - by July 2011
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2010, 12:59:40 PM »
Why aren't you counting the P546 (70 runs/week, how many seats/trip?), N798 (8 runs/week) or Redcliffe upgrades?

I presume that you aren't counting the new rail timetables or extra 761s because these services haven't started yet.

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Re: New Services Tally - by July 2011
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2010, 01:29:56 PM »
P546 and the Redcliffe upgrades were announced before the promise of 305,000 new seats was made. I'm assuming that we are only counting new seats delivered after 29 October, which was the date when the promise was made.

As for the N798, that is being funded by the Gold Coast City Council, not Translink, so I don't think it's appropriate to include them.

As for the Western Region upgrades, no official figure has been released, so we'll have to let that one slide.

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Re: New Services Tally - by July 2011
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2010, 02:21:15 PM »
More trains please!!! :)
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Re: New Services Tally - by July 2011
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2011, 07:15:45 AM »
2250 weekly seats on the extra 186s.  Link: http://www.cabinet.qld.gov.au/MMS/StatementDisplaySingle.aspx?id=73374

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Re: New Services Tally - by July 2011
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2011, 10:14:31 PM »
It's been a rather tumultuous January and February, but I think now is an appropriate time to update the new services tally.

New Services Tally to 28 February 2011

Bus:
Extra 192s - 4,950 new seats -> http://www.translink.com.au/about-translink/reporting-and-publications/media-releases/release/283
Extra 709s - approximately 1,800 new seats (40 new services - no figure provided by Translink) -> http://www.translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/bulletin/1297133577
Extra 186s - 2,250 new seats -> http://www.translink.com.au/about-translink/reporting-and-publications/media-releases/release/280
Total - 9,000 new seats

Train:
Total - No new seats
NOTE: Extra Richlands services will most likely be included in the final tally provided by Translink when the new timetables are released and come into force.

Ferry:
Total - No new seats

Total new seats delivered to 28/2/2011
- 66,400 new seats out of 305,000 new seats promised
% of new seats delivered - 21.77%

Small increase in new seats, but perfectly understandable due to the recent weather events in Brisbane (and Queensland). Remember that the extra Richlands services haven't been included due to the impending timetable review, which will probably result in an official new seats figure release.

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Re: New Services Tally - by July 2011
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2011, 11:27:08 PM »
I would keep an eye on the 192 seats. From the wording on the TL website it seems the plan is to return to the original timetable once the ferries are back up and running. But I think the service upgrade was needed anyway, and if the new short running services are able to time with the City Glider at West End, then perhaps the route should be permanently shortened to just be West End to UQ and have the longer running hours and increased frequency kept even after we get the ferries back.
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Re: New Services Tally - by July 2011
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2011, 04:16:03 AM »
Extra 192s don't count unless the seats exceed what was lost from the ferries!

Richlands was 150k wasn't it?  Maybe that is "will be".

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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2011, 08:37:41 AM »
I think the 192s need to be made permanent (even if this means a re-routing). There is no connecting service along Gladstone road and also Highgate Hill, and Dornoch Tce. You can't catch a ferry from there. IMHO 198 should be reviewed, it is an air parcel service and 192/Ipswich Road and CityGlider covers these areas, maybe 192 could be altered to cover this area too.
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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2011, 10:43:59 AM »
I think the 192s need to be made permanent (even if this means a re-routing). There is no connecting service along Gladstone road and also Highgate Hill, and Dornoch Tce. You can't catch a ferry from there. IMHO 198 should be reviewed, it is an air parcel service and 192/Ipswich Road and CityGlider covers these areas, maybe 192 could be altered to cover this area too.
Getting off the point, but I think that the 196 should run to UQ Lakes with the 105 taking over the Fairfield Gardens service.  Then what do you need the 192 for?

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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2011, 01:19:08 PM »
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Getting off the point, but I think that the 196 should run to UQ Lakes with the 105 taking over the Fairfield Gardens service.  Then what do you need the 192 for?

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I don't think it is wise to break the connection here.
West End would lose the connection. If anything 196 needs to be extended to Yeronga. 192 is needed to cover the Dornoch Tce/Gladstone Rd section for students (and Dornoch Tce itself- how close is that to the CBD?).

The 105 is terrible and is even longer than the 196.
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Re: New Services Tally - by July 2011
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2011, 03:16:39 PM »
Time is running out, but even if the 120 BUZification goes ahead, assuming the extra 192s are removed, we have something like:
Extra 709s - approximately 1,800 new seats (40 new services - no figure provided by Translink) -> http://www.translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/bulletin/1297133577
Extra 186s - 2,250 new seats -> http://www.translink.com.au/about-translink/reporting-and-publications/media-releases/release/280
New Route P88 - 41,000 new seats
Sunshine Coast improvements - 11,000 new seats
Route 555 upgrades - 5,400 new seats
extra 761s "nearly" 8000 new sets - these surely count
Western (Ipswich) Region - not specified - estimate 20000
196 BUZ - estimated 20000
120 BUZ - estimated 20000
New train timetables - I understand 150k.

Total: 279 450.  No cigar.

Let's hope they are going to BUZ another route, or TUZ the Caboolture line.  Perhaps the 100, but I for one am cooling on this particular idea.  101 and 465 meeting every train would be about as good, except for the poor train frequency to Richlands.

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« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2011, 03:21:55 PM »
120 BUZ??? This is news to me...
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Re: New Services Tally - by July 2011
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2011, 03:45:32 PM »
120 BUZ??? This is news to me...
It has been rumoured.

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« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2011, 08:54:47 PM »
120 BUZ??? This is news to me...
It has been rumoured.

6 June 2011 was what BT planners told me.
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« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2011, 11:01:25 PM »
There was an ad from TL in todays mx giving the June 6 date for upgrades, but didn't list the upgrades, so anything is possible. Given we already know of the train and New Farm upgrades that are planned for that date, anything else would be a big benefit.
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« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2011, 11:18:22 PM »
fingers crossed for a 245 BUZ  ;D ;D
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« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2011, 08:51:47 AM »
245 would be a very good route. Time to get core frequency on core arterial roads!
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« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2011, 09:03:01 AM »
120 BUZ??? This is news to me...
It has been rumoured.

6 June 2011 was what BT planners told me.
Prepare for the announcement on Thu 2 June 2011 then.

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« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2011, 10:40:09 AM »
120 BUZ??? This is news to me...
It has been rumoured.

6 June 2011 was what BT planners told me.
Prepare for the announcement on Thu 2 June 2011 then.

Equally likely - we'll see buses running around with "Garden City BUZ 120 / via Tarragindi" in the days coming up to it, and then no mention of it once it is quietly dropped.
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Re: New Services Tally - by July 2011
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2011, 01:44:55 PM »
What exactly would be the point of a 120 BUZ?

It seems like a bit of milk run to me, especially the part south of Tarragindi.

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« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2011, 04:05:00 PM »
What exactly would be the point of a 120 BUZ?

It seems like a bit of milk run to me, especially the part south of Tarragindi.

I think it is fine city-Kessels Rd.  The bit between Garden City and Orange Grove Rd is fine too.  The concept of connecting these two routes up is also fine, and helps to allow dual action on the route.  Those heading to Troughton Rd can use route 135.

What's the problem?  It does look strange on a map, I'll allow.

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« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2011, 08:43:04 PM »
What exactly would be the point of a 120 BUZ?

It seems like a bit of milk run to me, especially the part south of Tarragindi.

I think it is fine city-Kessels Rd.  The bit between Garden City and Orange Grove Rd is fine too.  The concept of connecting these two routes up is also fine, and helps to allow dual action on the route.  Those heading to Troughton Rd can use route 135.

What's the problem?  It does look strange on a map, I'll allow.

I like it. I think theres certainly a benefit to setting routes up to have a second purpose other than just suburb to city.
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« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2011, 07:13:27 AM »
I just find it strange that it doesn't proceed directly along Kessels Rd.  Surely it isn't that far a walk from the GU Kessels Rd entrance?

This added to the fact that as far as I can determine, that section of Kessels Rd doesn't actually have a bus service other than the GCL, i.e. no night-time or Sunday service, at all.

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« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2011, 07:57:35 AM »
If you are saying Kessels Rd would be better than Musgrave Rd, on that point I would agree.  There are a lot of issues with the bus system, and this one is well down the list.  The theory could be that the stops on Orange Grove Rd south of Kessels Rd and on Musgrave Rd are too far from Coopers Plains station.  I personally think that some people need to live with >800m walk distance.  My walk to the station is around 850m, although I have buses closer.

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« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2011, 06:07:17 AM »
From the Brisbanetimes click here!

Brisbane bus services boosted

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Brisbane bus services boosted
Daniel Hurst
May 17, 2011 - 5:35AM

Brisbane commuters heading to the University of Queensland, New Farm and southside suburbs will gain more frequent bus services from next month.

Under changes coinciding with new train timetables on several rail lines, the state government will fund extra services on five popular Brisbane Transport bus routes.

The measures will see two existing routes – 196 (New Farm to Fairfield via the CBD) and 120 (Upper Mt Gravatt to CBD) – converted to high-frequency commutes.

This means passengers should never have to wait more than 10 minutes for a bus in peak times or 15 minutes in off-peak times including weekends and public holidays.

“Turn-up-and-go” services will also be available to commuters transferring from the Indooroopilly railway station to UQ at St Lucia.

Transport Minister Annastacia Palaszczuk said people making this trip would have a bus at least every 10 minutes in peak times or 15 minutes in off-peak times on either route 427, 428 or 432.

“This package recognises that Indooroopilly train station will become an even more important hub in the network as it forms part of the new simplified express train stopping pattern,” she said in a statement.

Ms Palaszczuk said the extra services would result in an extra 47,000 bus seats being available to commuters on the network each week.

A TransLink spokesman said minor changes would be made to other route timetables but there would not be a reduction in services.

He said New Farm's 196 and 197 routes would be combined into one route as part of the overhaul.

However, boosting 196 to a high-frequency route would still result in an extra 19,000 seats being available to New Farm each week, he said.

Ms Palaszczuk said TransLink consulted with the New Farm community about the restructure and the feedback was “overwhelmingly positive”.

She said changes would take effect on June 6, when sweeping timetables changes on the Rosewood, Ipswich, Caboolture and Sunshine Coast railway lines would make an additional 150,000 seats available to customers on train services each week.

“This Brisbane bus package, together with the new train timetables will be the most significant enhancement to our network ever,” she said.

“It delivers the final piece of our commitment to add an additional 305,000 weekly seats to the network in the current financial year, on top of the 300,000 additional weekly seats added last year.”

The changes

Routes 196, 197

    Route 197 (New Farm-City-Fairfield Gardens) will be amalgamated into the similar Route 196 (New Farm-City-Fairfield).
    Route 196 will become high-frequency with services every 10 minutes for a bus in peak times or 15 minutes in off-peak times including weekends and public holidays.
    The government says this will result in an extra 19,000 bus seats each week on this corridor.

Route 120

    This route, connecting Upper Mt Gravatt to the CBD, will become high-frequency with services every 10 minutes for a bus in peak times or 15 minutes in off-peak times including weekends and public holidays.
    The government says this will result in an extra 19,000 bus seats each week on this corridor, meeting growth around Coopers Plains, Annerley, Salisbury, Tarragindi and Nathan.

Routes 427, 428, 432

    A bus on one of these routes between Indooroopilly station and the University of Queensland will leave every 10 minutes in peak times or 15 minutes in off-peak times on weekdays.
    However, services on Saturdays will be every 30 minutes and on Sundays every hour.
    The government says this will result in an extra 9000 bus seats each week on this corridor.


Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/brisbane-bus-services-boosted-20110516-1epnz.html
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« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2011, 11:04:16 AM »
By my count, these numbers mean that the Western Region upgrade must have delivered 38 550 seats for the target to be met, as they claim.  Unless they are claiming the 192s which are likely to be temporary.

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« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2011, 09:18:58 PM »
Stumbled upon this! -> http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/bulletin/1305615772

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Inala bus service changes
 
From Monday 6 June, a new train timetable will be introduced on the Ipswich and Richlands lines.

changes will also be made to Brisbane bus routes 101, 102, 103 and 122To ensure connections are kept with the new train times.
Route 101

    * Minor timetable changes, with consistent arrival and departure times
    * More reliable services
    * Dedicated train connections seven days a week, at both Oxley and Corinda stations
    * Coordinated services to meet school demand and start and finish times

Route 102

    * Two additional weekday services at 5.55am (inbound) and at 6.25am (outbound)
    * Minor timetable changes, with consistent arrival and departure times, to address on-time running issues
    * Dedicated train connections seven days a week, at both Oxley and Corinda stations
    * Coordinated services to meet school demand and start and finish times

Route 103

    * Weekend services introduced for the first time, with dedicated train connections at Darra station. Eight inbound services and eight outbound services will run both Saturday and Sunday
    * Monier Road Shopping Village will also be serviced for the first time, in both directions
    * Two additional weekday services at 5.26pm (inbound) and 6.02pm (outbound)
    * Minor timetable changes with consistent arrival and departure times, to address on-time running issues.

Route 122

    * Minor timetable changes, with consistent arrival and departure times, to address on-time running issues.

New timetables will be available closer to June from your local train station or bus interchange, from this website, or by request from our call centre on 13 12 30.

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« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2011, 09:24:10 PM »
And this too! -> http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/bulletin/1305516415

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Changes to route 104 services

From Monday 6 June, as part of changes being made to the Ipswich train timetable, train services between Corinda and Yeerongpilly stations will be removed.

To replace these services, route 104 (Corinda to PA Hospital) will be improved. This service runs from Corinda station to the Princess Alexander Hospital, via Tennyson and Yeerongpilly stations.

Planned changes to route 104

    * No longer operating along Ipswich and Annerley Roads. Instead, this service will now run along Fairfield Road, before entering the Eastern Busway at Dutton Park, servicing the Boggo Road and PA Hospital busway stations.
          o Because of this diversion, the bus stops near Annerley Junction on Ipswich Road will no longer be serviced.
          o Passengers travelling to and from the city can still use routes 112, 116 and 202.
    * 11 additional services–six departing from Corinda station, and five departing from the PA Hospital.
    * Services will terminate at the PA Hospital busway station (lower level platform), avoiding traffic and congestion near Cornwall Street.
    * No longer servicing the Corinda Community Centre on Clara Street. Passengers travelling to this centre can still use the Centenary & Oxley Reach Medical Run, operated by Yellow Cabs.

Benefits for customers

    * improved safety at Buranda by terminating at the PA Hospital busway station
    * more services
    * direct connections to Cleveland and off-peak Airtrain services at Park Road train station
    * a more direct service to University of Queensland, with connecting routes 109, 139, 169 and 209 at Boggo Road busway station
    * direct connections to other services on the Eastern Busway at the Boggo Road busway station
    * a quicker, more direct service to the PA Hospital.

School rail passes

We are aware there may be some students with a current 6 or 12 month School Rail Pass that use the Tennyson line services.

These passes can be used on all route 104 services until the end of the school year.After this time, normal TransLink tickets and fares will apply.

A new timetable for this service will be available soon. Be sure to check back regularly, or call 13 12 30 for more information.

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« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2011, 08:11:34 AM »
That's good news.

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« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2011, 09:44:40 AM »
WOW

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Re: New Services Tally - by July 2011
« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2011, 09:46:24 AM »
http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=5100.0  :)

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"The Route 104 is an 'around town' bus service which connects Corinda, Tennyson, Yeerongpilly and the PA Hospital, and it fills in for the Tennyson rail services when they do not run."

"RAIL Back on track understands that the 104 bus route is currently under review."

RAIL Back on Track suggests that in order to provide a decent level of service if all rail services are removed, services run:

* Every 15 minutes between 7 - 9 am in the morning peak hour
* Every 15 minutes between 4 - 6 pm in the afternoon peak hour
* At a standard 30 minute frequency during off-peak times
* The last service to be at 7 pm

"This would only require the addition of a minimal number of bus services to the current timetable to reach this level of service. For example, there is already 15 minute frequency between 7 - 8 am between the current 104 bus services and the Moorooka bound morning train."

Other considerations could include routing via Fairfield Road and the inclusion of stops at:

* UQ Lakes
* PA Hospital Busway Station
* Park Road RAIL Station
* Buranda Busway Station

"Such improvements would improve the legibility of the service, give the route a chance to attract more patronage and allow onward connections to Cleveland, Beenleigh, Gold Coast, Eight Mile Plains/Logan and Carindale through a single transfer at Park Road and Buranda."

"The current Route 104 service simply does not offer this high level of integration and connection with the rest of the wider network, and a high level of connection and integration is essential for such 'around town' bus services which do not enter the CBD."
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