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SEQ 2031: Light Rail Routes & Trolleybus
« on: October 01, 2010, 12:37:08 AM »
Following on from this: http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=4362.0

Which routes in Brisbane would be good for LRT conversion? Are there any areas where trolleybus would be worthwhile?
IMHO LRT/Tbus routes should ideally be high volume corridors.

I tried to test some ideas out in Google maps- though for the southside its a bit hard.
While LRT system down main road corridors is possible, it will be rather limited in scale without eventually converting the busway system. In many places, it just doesn't make a great deal of sense to run a tram parallel to the busway, or on a route trying to avoid a busway or not taking advantage of the benefits of running on the busway.

Many questons.
There are a few hurdles in places, not impossible to solve but difficult:

For instance:

*LRT from Tenneriffe Ferry over to West End Ferry must cross the Brisbane River.
How is it going to do this? Bridge or Tunnel? If you choose bridge, how do you run through Cultural Centre?

* LRT running on BUZ 385 from The Gap must enter the CBD. It could do this via Waterworks Road and Petrie Tce. But when it gets to Roma Street, what happens then? Does it run on Roma Street (and not integrate properly with other buses and trains, means less patronage, bad connections) or does it run on the busway there?

* LRT running along Old Cleveland Road. Is this really worthwhile running on the road when the, presumably faster, Eastern Busway will be right next to it? The same goes for Gympie Road if the Northern Busway is completed to Bracken Ridge.

*If we assume LRT is to run on the surface (to keep costs down) and the busways will remain unconverted, then how on Earth is anyone going to find kerb space and stop space for the sheer numbers of buses today AND LRT vehicles as well?

* LRT running down Ipswich Road towards the city- how will that access the CBD without using the busway? Will it use the much slower Stanley Street and Victoria Bridge?

Just some questions to think about...
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Re: SEQ 2031: Light Rail Routes & Trolleybus
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2010, 12:48:53 AM »
Who says they have to access the city? Hypothetical: Ipswich Rd LRT. You could terminate it at Woolongabbe (post CRR) and pax would have access to a quick train ride across to the CBD or using the busway acess to Mater Hill/South Bank. Not sure about the bridge capacity, but you could offer an interchange stop here and then continue across the the Story Bridge to The Valley/Tenneriffe?
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Re: SEQ 2031: Light Rail Routes & Trolleybus
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2010, 01:17:27 AM »
It might be possible to cross the Story Bridge.
But the next problem is run into: in a city full of hundreds and hundreds of buses, where do you find kerb space to accommodate them all?
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