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What stabling do we have?
« on: September 12, 2010, 03:09:18 PM »
My count is:
7x 6 car trains at Robina
6x 6 car trains at Ipswich + 1x 3 car train
3x 6 car trains at Manly
5x 6 car trains at Beenleigh + 2x 3 car trains
10x 6 car trains at Caboolture - 6 on the north side of the station + 4 on its east side, with difficult shunting required for 2 spots.
1x 6 car train at Gympie North
4x 6 car trains at Nambour
2x 6 car trains at Shorncliffe (not used AIUI)
not restricted at Mayne

Is my count above accurate?  Seems that the stabling facilities have been badly neglected because no politicians have seen votes in it due to it being un-sexy.  There is also a need for stabling at Springfield as I see it.

Also, the 2x 3 car roads at Beenleigh explain 3 car trains on the Beenleigh and Ferny Grove lines.

At Ipwich, my count is that the 6:33, 6:46, 7:05, 7:16, 7:24, 8:40 trains all need to be empty moves from Mayne.  Perhaps there is case for a facility of about 5-6x 6 car trains and a crew base at Rosewood?  Where's the advantage in Wulkuraka?
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Re: What stabling do we have?
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2010, 04:12:38 PM »
Wulkuraka has the advantage of space --> http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-27.612359,152.727004&z=18&t=k&nmd=20100605

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Re: What stabling do we have?
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2010, 04:16:38 PM »
Yes, Ok, there is no room at Ipswich for more stabling.

Putting some at Rosewood makes this not really an issue though, and reduces empty running.

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Re: What stabling do we have?
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2010, 04:37:29 PM »
Wulkuraka is also well positioned for Ipswich Rosewood and eventually Ripley and Springfield support.  Stabling at Redbank will have limited utility, based on the population projections trains are going to have to start from Ipswich rather than Redbank.  I wonder what the official reasons are to justify the stabling at Redbank ...  I feel a blunder coming on ...
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Re: What stabling do we have?
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2010, 04:39:36 PM »
Soon to be 8 x 6 car trains at Beenleigh.

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Re: What stabling do we have?
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2010, 04:44:52 PM »
Mitchelton has 1 x 6 car, Manly has 2 x 6 car, IIRC - Redbank siding has 1 x 6 car and Petrie has 2 x 6 car + 1 x 3 car
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Re: What stabling do we have?
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2010, 05:28:58 PM »
Do they use the Mitchie  stabling spot though? I've never gone through when a train has been there.
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Re: What stabling do we have?
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2010, 05:43:14 PM »

QR acknowledges that additional train stabling is required at Nambour, but is sending out mixed messages.  The Caboolture-Nambour duplication EIS said stabling was outside its scope and would have to be considered separately.  Three sites have been identified, but little work has been done to select the most appropriate.  Advice from senior person is that 'locations north of Nambour are under consideration'.  It is unclear whether this is a reference to Yandina, but must be assumed not to be the case until the contender sites have been identified.

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Re: What stabling do we have?
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2010, 05:48:47 PM »
Yandina --> http://www.yandinaonline.com.au/  

The first issue of the Ninderry-Nicklin News due Oct 15th might have something on this.  Who knows ..
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Re: What stabling do we have?
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2010, 07:07:53 PM »
Mitchelton has 1 x 6 car, Manly has 2 x 6 car, IIRC - Redbank siding has 1 x 6 car and Petrie has 2 x 6 car + 1 x 3 car
Re: Manly, 2 trains in a fenced off area and they put a third one on one of the platforms.  Presumably they can't use the other platform due to some safeworking problem, but I'd think that an unsignalled move would be better than running Manly - Mayne - Manly.  But that's just my opinion.  Perhaps there are security concerns with having the second train on the platform.

Re: Petrie/Redbank/Mitchelton.  To my knowledge that is not in use.  Perhaps the Petrie one should be.  Thanks for filling in that omission though.

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Re: What stabling do we have?
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2010, 10:44:12 PM »
Re: Petrie/Redbank/Mitchelton.  To my knowledge that is not in use.  Perhaps the Petrie one should be.  Thanks for filling in that omission though.
When I went out west to Ipswich to photograph the new livery on SMU 277/278 for their first passenger service, I saw a driver walk to a train at Redbank Siding. The train I was on was at Redbank at 7:33am. I'd assume that train in the siding was for the 7:58am Redbank to Doomben Express. On the way back to the city the train was no longer in the depot..

As for Petrie, every weekend that I pass through and some evenings I've seen trains in the depots(I don't travel to Caboolture too often though). Nearmap link aswell - http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-27.266151,152.983063&z=18&t=k&nmd=20100425

Not too sure about Mitchelton just mentioning that there is a siding there ;)
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Re: What stabling do we have?
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2010, 11:35:47 PM »

Re stabling 'north of Nambour' ... sounds as though the new Yandina paper has a 'special correspondent' lined up.  That, and Paul Scurrah's throwaway line of 'good news soon for NCL' offers some prospect for optimism, hopefully before 2031!  Mmmmm, and promise (only that) of 160km/hr trains.  I will have to wear a hair net to keep my part in place on the ride to town.  That is, if I have any hair when the fast trains start running!

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Re: What stabling do we have?
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2010, 11:13:08 AM »
They use Redbank stabling for a single train?  I'm surprised that they bother.

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Re: What stabling do we have?
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2010, 11:22:16 AM »
There is also a siding long enough for 1 x 6 car sets at Rocklea,although at present it is only used rarely to hold track equipment. Click here.

Not that Rocklea would be a particularly useful place to stable a train, as it hasn't been used as a suburban terminus since the 1940s or '50s.

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Re: What stabling do we have?
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2010, 11:00:10 AM »
There is a stabling point just past the Normanby next to the ICB. It's not used much but as I pass there on the adjacent bikeway everyday I do see EMU's etc parked there. :tr Looks like there is only enough room for 1 6 car set though.  :tr

 

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