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Interchanges and Feeder buses: Where should they go/be upgraded?

Started by #Metro, July 19, 2010, 18:30:47 PM

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#Metro

Interchanges: Where should they go/be upgraded?
Also, any ideas on where feeder buses could go?
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Jonno

If I look at successful rail/metro, tram/bus integrated networks overseas (the usual candidates of  Berlin, Zurick, Vienna, Prauge) the rail-bus/tram connections are not built as "interchanges" rather the bus/tram routes run along major routes that run across/between the tain/metros lines.  The services of both bus/tram and train/metro are very frequent (which we all know is the key) and one just jumps off the train/metro and walks to a bus/tram stop outside the station.  They are not feeder services rather routes that interconnect the transit routes with more local service.   The large 'interchange' stops such as Kepperra and the like create an unattractive, non-pedestrianfriendly, over-engineered  environment. 

Our city roads are fairly easy to navigate along and we need to have bus routes that just run along these roads so that you know you can jump on and off services to make your way across or around town.  The routes need to stick to the major roads and make a network of lines.  So my answer to the question is where ever a major or through road passes a station we have a interchange.

stephenk

Quote from: Jonno on July 19, 2010, 20:33:48 PM
 The large 'interchange' stops such as Kepperra and the like create an unattractive, non-pedestrianfriendly, over-engineered  environment. 

Keperra?
Evening peak service to Enoggera* 2007 - 7tph
Evening peak service to Enoggera* 2010 - 4tph
* departures from Central between 16:30 and 17:30.

#Metro

Interchange design is really important (for major interchanges).

QuoteOur city roads are fairly easy to navigate along and we need to have bus routes that just run along these roads so that you know you can jump on and off services to make your way across or around town.  The routes need to stick to the major roads and make a network of lines.  So my answer to the question is where ever a major or through road passes a station we have a interchange.

They need to stick to major routes and weave a network. Bus routes between stations can extend the reach of the rail network, but in many cases (Brisbane) the bus is passing the station or inside its catchment, but isn't feeding it. Examples would be bus routes which run along the Western Freeway and Coronation Drive. If the links are not timed, if they do not show crossing routes in the timetable, and if the bus stop isn't close to intersections, it is a big risk to do the transfer.
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Jonno

Quote from: stephenk on July 19, 2010, 21:01:48 PM
Quote from: Jonno on July 19, 2010, 20:33:48 PM
 The large 'interchange' stops such as Kepperra and the like create an unattractive, non-pedestrianfriendly, over-engineered  environment. 

Keperra?
Sorry Enoggera.

#Metro

What changes need to be made to Enoggera?
I've found it to be a dark place. StephenK might have something to say about the pedestrian access.
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stephenk

Quote from: tramtrain on July 20, 2010, 11:54:14 AM
What changes need to be made to Enoggera?
I've found it to be a dark place. StephenK might have something to say about the pedestrian access.

I wouldn't call it dark. It's quite open, safe, and well-lit at night (and also deserted at most times of the day). There is usually a security guard at Enogerra at night.

The bus interchange will not win any awards for architecture, but a lick of paint, new signage, and some buses would do it a world of good.

Don't mention the stupid fence to protect pedestrians from non-existant buses. QR claim that it is not on their property, so the complaint  is now going to Translink.

Evening peak service to Enoggera* 2007 - 7tph
Evening peak service to Enoggera* 2010 - 4tph
* departures from Central between 16:30 and 17:30.

#Metro

Quoteand some buses would do it a world of good.

I agree. Why have a massive interchange and hardly any buses!
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Mozz

Interesting - and to paraphrase - "Usually a security guard at Enogerra at night" - hmmm can't say I have seen this on the Ipswich line at any of the stations

Jonno

I would rather a waiter serving dinner to patrons outdoor on a plaza than a security guard.  But hey that's me

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