Goodna Station

[Gazza]

Because it's cheaper just to let construction workers park there rather than hiring a shuttle bus and paying the driver.

On the Corindarra project, the work site was a few kilometers long, so perhaps it worked there.

But if all they are doing is putting in a substation at Goodna, then the might as well park right close by, so they can do the work quicker, since they can have their vans and utes with tools and materials etc right there.

Infrastrucure upgrades are short term pain for long term gain.

[#Metro]

How about just putting on an extra feeder bus or two for the passengers in the morning and afternoon?

[somebody]

I don't have a problem with the idea that the construction crew could use the parking as a priority.  If it would be acceptable for them to use a bus shuttle, why not for commuters?

Well if one was provided they might.

Indeed.  There are a couple of 530 & 463 services though.  Some others I expect.

[ozbob]

More photographs around Goodna rail station











An old advertising poster exposed, house and land packages $89,500 ....  



















Pedestrian access to the footbridge ...







Photographs R Dow 7th April 2011

[ozbob]

Track closure Corinda to Rosewood 16 and 17 April 2011













Photographs R Dow 16th April 2011

[ozbob]

Footings down side Goodna, not sure what for.  Seems to be a silly place in view of future planned track amplifications.





Photographs R Dow 4th May 2011

[Golliwog]

Footings down side Goodna, not sure what for.  Seems to be a silly place in view of future planned track amplifications.
Photographs R Dow 4th May 2011

Haven't the foggiest either, but you'd be suprised how much stuff gets done, even though it will only be temporary.

[ozbob]

Whatever it is, starting to take shape at Goodna.  Think it might be electrical gear of sorts.













Photographs R Dow 13th May 2011

[mufreight]

As an elevated structure this could have been built over the parking area which would leave the rail corridor with room for a third or fourth track but this and the other new structure adjacent to the other running line on the opposite side of the platform quite effectively preclude any additional tracks in the corridor without the demolition of these structures.
Another example of this ongoing lack of forsight that wastes millions.

[p858snake]

Seems strange that they would elevate something if its electrical due to easier to build that stuff at ground level and less safety risk that way as well...

[ozbob]

Goodna railway station is a strong swimmer ...

[mufreight]

Seems strange that they would elevate something if its electrical due to easier to build that stuff at ground level and less safety risk that way as well...

Floods, the majority of the equipment will be above the 74 water level.

[Golliwog]

As an elevated structure this could have been built over the parking area which would leave the rail corridor with room for a third or fourth track but this and the other new structure adjacent to the other running line on the opposite side of the platform quite effectively preclude any additional tracks in the corridor without the demolition of these structures.
Another example of this ongoing lack of forsight that wastes millions.

I think you can put a 3rd track in here between the new structure Ozbob has taken pics of and the current island. Might have to shift it up the line a little, but it would still work.

[mufreight]

As an elevated structure this could have been built over the parking area which would leave the rail corridor with room for a third or fourth track but this and the other new structure adjacent to the other running line on the opposite side of the platform quite effectively preclude any additional tracks in the corridor without the demolition of these structures.
Another example of this ongoing lack of forsight that wastes millions.

I think you can put a 3rd track in here between the new structure Ozbob has taken pics of and the current island. Might have to shift it up the line a little, but it would still work.

Wether these structures would need to be shifted ten centremetres or ten kilometres the point remains the same the will require to be relocated and that costs, it also creates disruption and if a traction power supply facility or major signaling equipment creates a restricted operating window while the relocation process is being carried out.
If any work is worth doing do it properly the first time and allow for known future needs.  The is cheaper in the medium to long term.

[Golliwog]

I meant the platform. The ends probably wouldn't line up with the ends of the current platforms unless you were going to have a tight squeeze between the platform edge and whatever it is their building. It'd just be a bit like Fortitude Valley.

[mufreight]

I meant the platform. The ends probably wouldn't line up with the ends of the current platforms unless you were going to have a tight squeeze between the platform edge and whatever it is their building. It'd just be a bit like Fortitude Valley.

Not enough room regardless for the required clerance between the running tracks and were there sufficent room through the actual existing station a third line could not be built without speed restricted curves and a curved platform which is contrary to the now espoused practice of platforms being straight and raised to carriage floor height to comply with the disability access.  having a bridge in close proximity of both ends of the existing station will further restrict future options.

[ozbob]

Down




UP



Photographs R Dow 19th May 2011

Looks like all the major spark gear is being put up high ... good!  Gurgle .. gurgle ...

[ozbob]

Photographs R Dow 20th May 2011

[ozbob]

Down side Goodna, showing the clearance.  A third line could be slotted in on the present general alignment. But if station platforms were rebuilt for straight faces the platforms would have to be further west than now to clear.  Not a major issue I think. 





Photographs R Dow 25th May 2011

[mufreight]

Have to sisagree on this one, they miss out on having enough room for a third track by just over a metre and the alignment of the track would require a tighter curve from where the line crosses Wooragoo Creek which would impose a speed restriction.

[ozbob]

This is looking in an UP direction (towards Ipswich)



Photograph R Dow 20th November 2011

Very tight as is I agree but I think the solution is to move the station towards Ipswich a bit and straighten a little.  I would hope that the structures they are building have been placed with respect to the planned track amplifcation (am I being too optimistic?   )

[ghostryder]

Bob/All
Mufreight might be right now that clearances are too tight but that was not always the case. Into the early 1990s there was a refuge on the side of the station where the current commuter carpark is. This refuge ran just east of Church St and ran parallel to the city bound line. The refuge crossed Layard St (refuge bridge according to near map still in place just minus the rails.), and rejoined the main line between Layard st and Woogaroo Ck, The crossover between Layard St and Woogaroo Ck amongst other things was once used to access the refuge if required. The refuge was used amongst other things to allow locos to run around after working the long gone Ipswich to Goodna services and serve a freight siding that was used to load timber products from the surrounding area and by the early 1980s had been removed and the area used for the relocation of the commuter carpark which once was located between the highway and the rail corridor. The goods siding on the Highway side was removed around the same time having fallen out of use with the closure of the good shed and with the no need for locos on the Brisbane to Goodna services to run around. 
The refuge survived was still in place in the mid 1980s and was in use storing coal hoppers when fire destroyed the original Goodna station building and signal box. The refuge was removed by the early 1990s.

Below is a copy of the old station yard plan of Goodna which i posted in a previous thread about Goodna footbridge. 

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/3wacolebbwvale3.jpg/

scott

[colinw]

Interesting.  By that diagram 5 tracks used to fit through at Goodna.

Ipswich to Goodna services? Those must have been withdrawn a fair while ago, although I think I can remember one or two loco hauled trains from Brisbane terminating at Goodna in a 1980s timetable.

[ghostryder]

Colin/all
I agree when you look at Goodna you would not think that it once boasted 5 tracks a refuge two goods siding and another little piece of trivia it was the location of the turning of the first sod of the Ipswich to Brisbane railway in 1870 due to potential boycotts from Brisbane and Ipswich over where the first sod and construction of the line should be carried out and started from.

scott

[mufreight]

The Ipswich to Goodna services were operated for workers at the Railway Workshops and ran into the site of what was to be the new Ipswich station (now the electric train stabling) where the workshops shunt engine would couple on to the rear of the train then pull it accross the river and into the workshops where there was a platform on the branch line that originaly ran through to the Mt Crosby pumping station.
The afternoon services were pulled out of the workshops accross the river where the loco that would haul the train down to Goodna was attached pulling the train into Ipswich station and on to Goodna.
The carriages were frequently stowed overnight in the goods loop on the down side of the station with the loco running back to Ipswich light engine

[ozbob]

I have received some advice from TransLink to the effect that:

Passenger waiting shelter at bus interchange / kiss n' ride to be implemented during the 2011/12 financial year.

Lighting upgrade.

And, Goodna railway station is proposed to be upgraded as part of the proposed Darra to Rebank rail corridor upgrade within the SEQIPP by 2026

Footnote:

Lifts are hoped to be operational late July (2011) is advised.  6 months does seem a little excessive in time for remedial action though IMHO.  Probably because the parts have to come from some outsourced provider who uses river barges for optimum transport efficiency ...

I noted work going on for the lift on the southern side of the footbridge again today (I think it is actually operational but not in use yet).  I can also confirm that there is no plan to supply oxygen tanks and ropes at this time either.

[ozbob]

Noted some technicians working on the lift at Goodna rail yesterday ..  good sign!

[mufreight]

Noted some technicians working on the lift at Goodna rail yesterday ..  good sign!

Only 5 months late, well better now than never, but the question is will they realy fix it this year? or was this inspection just the precursor to another assessment or report.

[ozbob]

Work proceeding with the electrical gear, high and dry ..







Bi Di Signalling at Goodna?  Not AFAIAA, a remnant of the former siding on the down side.  Interesting it is still lite up. 







Photographs R Dow 5th June 2011

[ozbob]

Noted some technicians working on the lift at Goodna rail yesterday ..  good sign!

No joy just yet, they were just 'cleaning' ...  preparation hopefully for restoration works soon! 

[petey3801]

Bi Di Signalling at Goodna?  Not AFAIAA, a remnant of the former siding on the down side.  Interesting it is still lite up.

That signal is for terminating trains at Goodna. The Down platform is Bi-Di (technically, although can't go any further than the Ipswich end of the platform in the Up direction without written authority). It was used quite a bit for the tuition trains when the Corinda-Wacol/Darra and Richlands lines were opened until the floods knocked the points on the City end out for a while.

[ozbob]

Bi Di Signalling at Goodna?  Not AFAIAA, a remnant of the former siding on the down side.  Interesting it is still lite up.

That signal is for terminating trains at Goodna. The Down platform is Bi-Di (technically, although can't go any further than the Ipswich end of the platform in the Up direction without written authority). It was used quite a bit for the tuition trains when the Corinda-Wacol/Darra and Richlands lines were opened until the floods knocked the points on the City end out for a while.

Thanks!

[ozbob]

Some more views of Goodna, work proceeding on station itself today as well as the electrical structures.  No sign of lifts returning to service. 

Pipe train on the move through Goodna

















3 car UP on driver training





Photographs R Dow 10th June 2011

[Cam]

No sign of lifts returning to service.  

The lifts I have used that were flooded at car park levels in buildings in Eagle St, Brisbane have been operational for months. The state government knows that enough voters in the Goodna area will continue to vote for the ALP candidate in Bundamba no matter what.

If lifts at Petrie station were flooded 6 months ago, they would be operational by now. Petrie being a comparable railway station to Goodna in terms of patronage, but what is most important, it's in the marginal ALP seat of Kallangur.

I'm no LNP supporter. I will support whoever & whichever party delivers for the Bundamba electorate.

The lack of police presence on the platform at Goodna railway station & surrounding areas at night is a concern considering the amount of crime reported in the area. The police station may only be about 500m from Goodna railway station but that doesn't mean you are any safer walking from the station or waiting for a train at night. I regularly listen to Ipswich area police radio in the evening so I hear what problems the police have to deal with in the area.

It is obvious to me that there is very little pro-active policing at night (8pm-midnight) on the streets in the Bundamba electorate. The area seems to be regularly very understaffed at night & staff on duty are often called from one job to another between 8pm & 10pm - particularly Thursday to Sunday nights.

Honestly, I will crack a bottle of the most expensive champagne I can buy at the local bottle shop , the night I see police on foot pro-actively policing the streets around any of the railway stations in the Bundamba electorate on the Ipswich Line.  I hear regular jobs over police radio within, say 500m of railway stations in the area but the perpetrator of a crime would have to be very unlucky to be caught in the act by police. If police were in the area at night, they would most likely be on the way to another job. A pro-active police presence is needed but it seems that there are not nearly enough police stationed at Goodna to attempt it between 8pm & midnight most nights.

The police at Goodna are probably doing their best but require significantly more numbers at night to be anything more than a reactive police service driving from one job to another.

Fortunately, ozbob now uses Goodna station on a regular basis. Hopefully, his influence can deliver for Goodna station what the member for Bundamba has not been able to do in 11 years.

[ozbob]

I am not sure if can do much Cam, but thanks for the faith!

We will try though.

Have asked if there is any update on the lift repair timelines.

Sent to QR.

11 June 2011

Goodna rail lifts

Howdy,

Is there any update of when the lifts at Goodna rail might be operational please?  There was a sign that said late July if I recall correctly.

The natives are getting very restless out there --> http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=5712.msg59583#msg59583

Folks are carrying prams etc. up and down the stairs as well.  I know not desirable but I don't think they will listen, one of them hit my leg yesterday as they manoeuvred up the stairs.

I noted the lifts being cleaned the other day.  It would be good if that the lifts on the southern end of the pedestrian bridge were operational as well, although I realise that is part of the road upgrade.  It looks like they might be close there.

Thanks.

Cheers
Robert

[mufreight]

No sign of lifts returning to service.  

I'm no LNP supporter. I will support whoever & whichever party delivers for the Bundamba electorate.
Fortunately, ozbob now uses Goodna station on a regular basis. Hopefully, his influence can deliver for Goodna station what the member for Bundamba has not been able to do in 11 years.

Perhaps Ozbob should stand as an independent candidate for Bundamba, not only could there be influence applied to the ignored needs of the Bundamba electotate but also in the area of public transport statewide.
One thing for sure there would be no shortage of workers to support him as a candidate.

[#Metro]

Perhaps Ozbob should stand as an independent candidate for Bundamba, not only could there be influence applied to the ignored needs of the Bundamba electotate but also in the area of public transport statewide.
One thing for sure there would be no shortage of workers to support him as a candidate.
   

Disagree.

[ozbob]

LOL I am not standing for any election mu!  Labor heartland is labor heartland.

[BrizCommuter]

. Petrie being a comparable railway station to Goodna in terms of patronage,

Petrie has approx. 60% more am peak boardings than Goodna. However, they are both busy suburban stations.

[Cam]

. Petrie being a comparable railway station to Goodna in terms of patronage,

Petrie has approx. 60% more am peak boardings than Goodna. However, they are both busy suburban stations.

This may be getting off topic but i think it is worth commenting on:

Even though the Ipswich Motorway becomes congested in places in peak times between Goodna & Rocklea, it still provides a much faster trip towards Brisbane than the heavily congested arterial roads from the Petrie area.

Sometimes at work there is the option of taking a company vehicle straight home after a site visit in the afternoon & drive it into work in the CBD the following morning. Several of my work colleagues who usually catch a train in from stations around Petrie & towards Caboolture prefer to catch the train than drive a company vehicle into the CBD in the morning peak period. They will pay the $5-$6 to catch the train home after returning to the CBD from a site visit & the $5-$6 back into the CBD the following morning rather than drive in a company vehicle to park under the building in the CBD. Their reasoning is that the traffic is so congested coming in from the outer northern suburbs that it takes so much longer to drive in than catching a train - even in the early peak period i.e. to arrive in the CBD by about 7.30am. If it takes so long to drive in for a 7.30am start, I certainly wouldn't want to do it for an 8.30am start.

It's a very different story for those living out my way on the Ipswich Line. Driving into the CBD for a start around 7.30am takes about as long from the Goodna area as it takes on the express train services in the new timetables. It wouldn't suprise me if there was a considerably higher percentage of commuters from the Petire area who catch the train into the CBD in peak times rather than than driving alone/car pooling comapred to the Goodna area because the commuting times by road from Petire are so much slower compared to rail. I counted about 50 sets of traffic lights from Petrie to Brisbane via Gympie Rd & the Inner City Bypass compared to about 14 sets of lights from Goodna to Brisbane via the Ipswich Motorway, Ipswich Rd, a suburban road onto the Pacific Motorway to the city. That's a massive difference. BTW, when I drive into work I usually take another route from Annerley to the CBD that has several more traffic lights but usually has a faster trip time as it is less congested.

The fact that there is a fairly free flowing motorway towards Brisbane along the railway line at Goodna is not the only reason for an under utilised Goodna railway station. There are other problems such as accessibility & parking that make Gailes & Wacol more attractive for those driving to a railway station in the area.