Connecting SEQ 2031

[ozbob]

Connecting SEQ 2031: An Integrated Regional Transport Plan for South East Queensland

Transport and Main Roads is preparing a new regional transport plan titled Connecting SEQ 2031: An Integrated Regional Transport Plan for South East Queensland.

Connecting SEQ 2031 will be a 22-year regional transport plan that serves the long-term needs of the people living, working, recreating and conducting business in south east Queensland.

When will the plan be available?

Connecting SEQ 2031 is expected to be released in mid 2010.

[Golliwog]

Anyone heard anything new about when this is expected to be released?

[Stillwater]

Should we hold a ceremony to physically and symbolically bury a copy of Connecting SEQ 2031?  Is it not dead?

[Mr X]

It's not like Labor had any big plans to fund it anyway.

Anyone could make a big report full of fluff, claim it will cost $200 billion over 40 years and then not fund it.

[SurfRail]

Who knows?

The IRTP 1997 was from the Borbidge days, and it informed transport planning virtually until this thing appeared.  It might still be kept even if pared back.

[Stillwater]

Connecting SEQ 2031 was an unrealistic and unfunded wishlist of projects.  The brand name is corrupted.  I would settle for a realistic document, called something else, that looked out 10 years, split into 3x3x4 year segments with deliverables and costs.  Ten years would be what the LNP could expect as its term in government, so the onus would be on it to deliver a 10-year plan.  Anna Bligh said she had a plan that the government in power during the period 2026 to 2031 would deliver the big-cost infrastructure projects, or the feds would pay.  There was always something wrong with that logic.

[#Metro]

I think Connecting SEQ 2031 will be cut. Can't be funded anyway. LNP will be keen to make it's own transport plan (let's hope not around Car Rapid Transit).

[Gazza]

Can't be funded anyway

Why not? Billion is the new million these days.

[HappyTrainGuy]

Can't be funded anyway

Why not? Billion is the new million these days.

GoCard top up on a bus anyone?

[somebody]

Connecting SEQ 2031 was an unrealistic and unfunded wishlist of projects.  The brand name is corrupted.  I would settle for a realistic document, called something else, that looked out 10 years, split into 3x3x4 year segments with deliverables and costs.  Ten years would be what the LNP could expect as its term in government, so the onus would be on it to deliver a 10-year plan.  Anna Bligh said she had a plan that the government in power during the period 2026 to 2031 would deliver the big-cost infrastructure projects, or the feds would pay.  There was always something wrong with that logic.

You can say the same thing about the 1997 IRTP, and:

The IRTP 1997 was from the Borbidge days, and it informed transport planning virtually until this thing appeared.  It might still be kept even if pared back.

[Fares_Fair]

I have just read a federal document that recommends to COAG's (Councils of Australian Government's, i.e. the States),  planning terms of 30 years.

[Gazza]

Getting back to what I was saying earlier....So people here don't see the connection between higher population by 2021/2031, meaning a higher tax base, but also meaning greater viability of these projects compared to now?

Thats how they get funded.

Besides, who's to say that $125 Bil is not just an upper level estimate.
Kinda sounds like a certain rail tunnel in Brisbane that had $2 bil come off the price. 

[Golliwog]

I have just read a federal document that recommends to COAG's (Councils of Australian Government's, i.e. the States),  planning terms of 30 years.

Well it makes sense. If you watched the peoples forum that CM and Sky News did with Campbell and Anna about a week before the election, someone asked Anna about planning for Kenmore. She didn't answer the specific question brilliantly, but made an excellant point about why they have all these plans. It allows other levels of government and developers know what the State wants to know, so that if they're proposing development in an area, they can base their plans off these things being there at some point, and also work together to achieve them.

[Gazza]

Can't be funded anyway

Why not? Billion is the new million these days.

GoCard top up on a bus anyone?

It's true though isn't it?

In 1999, $400 mil got you the whole SEB. In 2011 that got you 1.05km at Coorparoo.
We're still building stuff these days aren't we?

[Fares_Fair]

Hellooo... Connecting SEQ 2031,   ...listens attentively, then *beep, beep, beep, beep*

[Stillwater]

Your call is important to us .... please hold the line. ................................  You are customer number 5000 in the queue, your call will be answered by the next available operator ..........All our operators are busy at this time, but if you care to leave your name and a contact telephone number, we will call you back in 2031 ..........

Connecting SEQ 2031 was a guide only, but lacked funding and, consequently, began to fall behind on objectives from day one.  Somehow, we were promised, all would come good in 2031.

At Merseytravel (from where Neil Scales hails), their equivalent has a short and long-term plan to 2024 and annual reporting against objectives.  How refreshing!  Its plan contains a lot less glossy pictures and not a mention of 'world clarse' anywhere.

http://www.letstravelwise.org/content206_Local-Transport-Plan-3.html

[ozbob]

Memories ...

[James]

Memories ...

"...this rail revolution is made possible by Cross River Rail..."

...or not. Thanks Campbell, Scott and Tony!

[ozbob]

Is it back?

[Jonno]

Needs to focus more on cycling, walking and place creation whilst the longer term network redesign and infrastructure projects are delivered!!

[Stillwater]

All the comment says that governments must provide a 'policy narrative' that takes the people with them.  However, good policy needs to be funded (and that might mean more taxes) otherwise the narrative starts with the words 'once upon a time' and the pollies don't live happily ever after at the end.

What would people think about a $100 annual state government levy on every household in SEQ collected by councils with the rates, with the money raised going to accelerated PT projects?

It would be popular outside SEQ, because people up north and out west would not see 'their money' spent in SEQ.

[SurfRail]

All rateable properties in the TransLink service area should be paying it, and it should be a differential rate (ie the landlord of a commercial building in the CBD should be paying more than sombody living at Gumdale).

Should come to an arrangement with BCC, GCCC and SCRC that this will replace their existing charging mechanisms for public transport with the funds collected meant for improvements in their area.  In BCC's case they probably already collect a couples of times this much per year so they could reduce their base rates.

[ozbob]

http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/search-results.aspx?query=connecting+2031