New Generation Rollingstock

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edit: as soon as i hit post I think i saw 746 Springfield bound. Maybe

750 was northgate bound

[SurfRail]

44 trains in service means there are the same number of NGR carriages in the fleet as the number of EMU carriages built (at 264 apiece).

[Andrew]

So what happened to 731 & 732? They seem the odd ones out from that list.

[jesse]

732 has been in service since NGR's got delegated to the SHC/CVN corridor. 746 I know for a fact has been in rev at least once already. 731 is the unknown at the moment

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732 has been in service since NGR's got delegated to the SHC/CVN corridor. 746 I know for a fact has been in rev at least once already. 731 is the unknown at the moment

Saw 746 today.
Total = 46. More carriage then EMUs

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Am I the only one noticing that the NGRs overshoot platforms and need to then set back with distressing frequency?  Case in point 749 this morning.  Nerang seems to be a favourite, not sure if that is location related, but it isn't the only place I've seen it in the last year and a bit.

I can't recall the 160s or 260s behaving like this, certain notable exceptions aside (ie Cleveland).

They seem to be ok on the Kippa-Ring line. But I suspect thr NGR's are a couple of metres longer than the standard 6 car set. Perhaps it is the higher speed of the Gold Coast line?

720 overshot Murrumba Downs by half a carriage this morning on its way to Springfield Central

[achiruel]

Is it maybe because the drivers aren't fully used to their braking performance yet? Or is it a visibility issue still? I recall their was some problems with sight lines in the first place.

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Is it maybe because the drivers aren't fully used to their braking performance yet? Or is it a visibility issue still? I recall their was some problems with sight lines in the first place.

The rest of the journey in this case suggested the former, as it was the only time it overshot and the driver got back into a rhythm as more and more stations were stopped at.
I suppose more NGRs -> more drivers driving them -> more with ngr experience

[HappyTrainGuy]

751 should be out there today.

[Andrew]

Juat saw 754 running a Test Train heading north at Petrie. Opened doors on the opposite side to the platform (which I believe is standard procedure).

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751 should be out there today.

Indeed it is

[Andrew]

Posted this earlier today on QR's Facebook page:

Hi QR

I wanted to inform you of a bizarre quirk of your new NGR trains. The door buttons don't always beep when you are at a station, letting you know they are available for use. This was highlighted to me about a month ago coming back from the Domestic airport by an unfortunate family who overshot International station because they didn't think the doors were released. They pointed out to me that "all the other trains do it" which is indeed correct.

As a regular on the Kippa-Ring line, I have since had many opportunities to travel on NGR trains and have been observing the door buttons. I usually sit in the end car closest to Kippa-Ring and travel to and from Sunshine. I would like to point out it is only SOME NGR trains that seem to have this issue. Others seem to work fine.

Most recently i have travelled on sets 713 and 714. Sitting in Car 8713 near doors B & D last night I witnessed that doors B (after being used at Kallangur) didn't beep at any further stations before again being used at Kippa-Ring. Doors D did not beep at Strathpine after being used by me to board at Sunshine.

This morning I travelled on car 3714 near doors A & C. After leaving Kippa-Ring (at which the doors A timed out, closed, but then didn't beep), doors A didn't beep at Rothwell, Mango Hill East and Mango Hill. They then started beeping again suddenly at Murrumba Downs and Kallangur. Doors C were used at Petrie, beeped at Bald Hills but not at Carseldine.

There does not seem to be any visible reason to me as a passenger as to why this is this case. And as mentioned, it only affects some trains but not others.

I would like feedback on this and would be willing to be contacted if they need to ask questions.

Kind Regards

Andrew

[ozbob]

^ well done Andrew.  Thanks for the information.

[verbatim9]

Posted this earlier today on QR's Facebook page:

Hi QR

I wanted to inform you of a bizarre quirk of your new NGR trains. The door buttons don't always beep when you are at a station, letting you know they are available for use. This was highlighted to me about a month ago coming back from the Domestic airport by an unfortunate family who overshot International station because they didn't think the doors were released. They pointed out to me that "all the other trains do it" which is indeed correct.

As a regular on the Kippa-Ring line, I have since had many opportunities to travel on NGR trains and have been observing the door buttons. I usually sit in the end car closest to Kippa-Ring and travel to and from Sunshine. I would like to point out it is only SOME NGR trains that seem to have this issue. Others seem to work fine.

Most recently i have travelled on sets 713 and 714. Sitting in Car 8713 near doors B & D last night I witnessed that doors B (after being used at Kallangur) didn't beep at any further stations before again being used at Kippa-Ring. Doors D did not beep at Strathpine after being used by me to board at Sunshine.

This morning I travelled on car 3714 near doors A & C. After leaving Kippa-Ring (at which the doors A timed out, closed, but then didn't beep), doors A didn't beep at Rothwell, Mango Hill East and Mango Hill. They then started beeping again suddenly at Murrumba Downs and Kallangur. Doors C were used at Petrie, beeped at Bald Hills but not at Carseldine.

There does not seem to be any visible reason to me as a passenger as to why this is this case. And as mentioned, it only affects some trains but not others.

I would like feedback on this and would be willing to be contacted if they need to ask questions.

Kind Regards

Andrew

^^See how important visual and audio cues (beeps) are than guard announcements. Especially for international travellers.

I will be writing in about this as well asking for a review of real time announcements as well as visual and audio cues.

[Andrew]

^^See how important visual and audio cues (beeps) are than guard announcements. Especially for international travellers.

I will be writing in about this as well asking for a review of real time announcements as well as visual and audio cues.

They appeared to be Aussie but perhaps not Brisbane natives fyi. But you raise a good point.

[verbatim9]

I am on carriage 6736A last Airport Service (delayed) and the beeps to alert which doors can be opened have either been disabled or are broken.

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[timh]

Not sure if this has been answered already, but does anyone know why the NGRs aren't operating on the Ferny Grove line yet? I have a friend who uses that line a lot and he reckons it's still all old rollingstock. Is it a signalling thing? Forgive my noobishness

[Andrew]

Apparently it has something to do with Newmarket station according to a QR driver I was chatting with.

[brissypete]

Not sure if this has been answered already, but does anyone know why the NGRs aren't operating on the Ferny Grove line yet? I have a friend who uses that line a lot and he reckons it's still all old rollingstock. Is it a signalling thing? Forgive my noobishness

No idea but as a Beenleigh line passenger (which generally continue to Ferny Grove) I don't mind at all, lot less rolling stock issues on Beenleigh line than the NGR lines.

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[STB]

Spotted NGR 755 doing test runs around midnight tonight through the Valley and Central.  Seemed to be doing the Exhibition / Hole in the wall loop.

[ozbob]

Bombardier --> Bombardier signs contract to upgrade trains for the Queensland New Generation Rollingstock (NGR) project

April 3, 2019 Berlin

Transportation,  Press Release

New Generation Rollingstock (NGR) train for Queensland, Australia

Bombardier to lead a $361 million AUD design change programme requested by the Queensland Government
Bombardier to leverage local supply chain to improve fleet's accessibility and passenger experience
Mobility technology leader Bombardier Transportation announced today an order from the Queensland Government to deliver modifications to the New Generation Rollingstock (NGR) trains currently being introduced to the South-East Queensland rail network. The order has been signed on March 29th. The total value of the contract is approximately $361 million AUD ($255 million US, 228 million euro) which includes design and delivery, as well as ongoing maintenance, over the remaining term of the public-private partnership.

"Bombardier is proud to partner with Queensland Government to deliver the new generation trains to the passenger rail network. This variation order is an important request from our customer, and we will continue to work closely with them to deliver the NGR project in line with the enhanced specifications set out by the Queensland Government," said Paul Brown, Bombardier Transportation's Project Director for the Queensland New Generation Rollingstock project.

Bombardier is leading the Qtectic consortium contracted to deliver the NGR project and will undertake the work to modify the trains in line with the government's revised design specifications with industry partner Downer EDI. The agreement between Bombardier and the Queensland Department of Transport and Main Roads (TMR) will see the previously approved toilet modules upgraded for improved disability access. The changes will also include an additional module added to each six-car train to provide improved access for passengers with limited mobility.

"The significance of the NGR project in Queensland cannot be understated," affirmed Wendy McMillan, President, Southeast Asia and Australia at Bombardier Transportation. "With 70 percent of Queensland's future population growth targeted in the South-East region, the NGR fleet will bring a significant 26 percent capacity increase to the South-East Queensland rail network to meet the growing demand for rail services. It's a game-changing project for Queensland and Bombardier is proud to be delivering it."

Features of the new trains include capacity for 964 passengers in each six-car train, onboard WiFi, CCTV throughout the train, LCD infotainment displays, toilet modules, 12 allocated spaces for mobility aids and more enhancements to the passenger experience.

Bombardier has created more than 2,000 local jobs across the industry and supply chain throughout this project. The design and toilet modification activities will support a further 100 local jobs at Downer's Maryborough facility in addition to the 145 current Bombardier employees at the Wulkuraka Maintenance Facility.

The $4.4 billion AUD NGR project is being delivered under a public-private partnership with the Queensland Government and was awarded to Qtectic, comprising Bombardier Transportation, John Laing, Itochu and Aberdeen Standard Investments. The project includes the design and delivery of 75 new passenger trains, construction of a new maintenance centre at Wulkuraka, Ipswich and 32-years of fleet maintenance.

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/railbotforum/status/1113459288146464768

[ozbob]

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[jesse]

754 now in circulation

[ozbob]

754 now in circulation

Thanks Jesse 

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754 now in circulation

Thanks Jesse 

That brings it to 50...

[ozbob]

Quite a story around the world.  In Queensland they try to keep a low profile ... 

Railway News --> Bombardier to Upgrade New Generation Rollingstock

[Andrew]

Set 758 seen on test train duties heading north at Sunshine yesterday around 1115am.

[Cazza]

Apparently 761 and 762 arrived at Wulkuraka as of today.

[HappyTrainGuy]

Apparently 761 and 762 arrived at Wulkuraka as of today.

And 8 EMUs should now be stowed on the Normanby loop as a result.

[verbatim9]

Apparently 761 and 762 arrived at Wulkuraka as of today.

And 8 EMUs should now be stowed on the Normanby loop as a result.

I cycle the Normanby bike route a few times a week. Noticed 4 trains now 2 being the later version IMUs which are half covered in Graffiti.

[HappyTrainGuy]

Apparently 761 and 762 arrived at Wulkuraka as of today.

And 8 EMUs should now be stowed on the Normanby loop as a result.

I cycle the Normanby bike route a few times a week. Noticed 4 trains now 2 being the later version IMUs which are half covered in Graffiti.

Should be 8 emus there now. 4 emus joined the area on Sunday and the 4 60's were removed and replaced with 4 emus around lunch time

[ozbob]

Days since NGR 701 towed to Wulkuraka

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I suspect there will be maybe a few more ngrs running around now in time for the new services on monday

[Andrew]

So anyone sighted 731 anywhere? It seems to be a bit of a mystery...

[SteelPan]

This may be of general interest on this thread

[ozbob]

^ thanks.  Interesting vid.