New Generation Rollingstock

[achiruel]

I would be loathe to use Singapore, a country that keeps political opposition in prison and effectively employs slave labour, as something we would want to model our society on.

[verbatim9]

I would be loathe to use Singapore, a country that keeps political opposition in prison and effectively employs slave labour, as something we would want to model our society on.

Asiian cultures Japan, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Malaysia and Singapore to name a few are different. They are brought up with morals and learn from a young age to respect  their elders and surroundings. It comes through good parenting and embedded culture. Thats why they have clean well kept Public Transport. Society there just doesn't vandalise Public property to the extent that Western society does

[kram0]

I would be loathe to use Singapore, a country that keeps political opposition in prison and effectively employs slave labour, as something we would want to model our society on.

Slave labour in Singapore. You are kidding aren't you? Have you ever been there? Ok there political system is different to ours, but the average wage in Singapore is about $60-70k per year. There are also more millionaires in Singapore per capita than anywhere else in the world.

I suggest you do some research. As the post above points out the reason they have little to no graffiti is due to respect and upbringing. Not only that the dead sh%ts get punished, unlike in Australia where you get a slap on the wrist and give the police the finger on the way out of the courts.

[achiruel]

I would be loathe to use Singapore, a country that keeps political opposition in prison and effectively employs slave labour, as something we would want to model our society on.

Slave labour in Singapore. You are kidding aren't you? Have you ever been there? Ok there political system is different to ours, but the average wage in Singapore is about $60-70k per year. There are also more millionaires in Singapore per capita than anywhere else in the world.

I suggest you do some research. As the post above points out the reason they have little to no graffiti is due to respect and upbringing. Not only that the dead sh%ts get punished, unlike in Australia where you get a slap on the wrist and give the police the finger on the way out of the courts.

I suggest you do some research I'm not referring to wages of Singaporean citizens or expats from wealthy countries like Australia.

https://www.state.gov/j/tip/rls/tiprpt/countries/2017/271276.htm

As reported over the past five years, Singapore is a destination country for men, women, and girls from other Asian countries subjected to sex trafficking and forced labor, a source country for Singaporean women and children subjected to sex trafficking, and a transit country for Asian men subjected to forced labor on fishing vessels that transit through Singapore or its territorial waters. Some of the 1.4 million foreign workers that comprise approximately one-third of Singapore's total labor force are vulnerable to trafficking; most victims migrate willingly for work in construction, domestic service, performing arts, manufacturing, the service industry, or commercial sex. Domestic workers from countries such as Cambodia and Burma, whose nationals have a small presence in Singapore, experience language barriers that increase their isolation and vulnerability to trafficking; some employers exacerbate this vulnerability by denying workers access to mobile phones. NGO-released research found some domestic workers in Singapore experience conditions indicative of forced labor including restriction on their movement and communications; verbal, physical, or sexual threats and abuse; and denial of a legally-required weekly day off of work.

https://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/hrrpt/2009/eap/136008.htm

e. Denial of Fair Public Trial
The constitution provides for an independent judiciary, and the government generally respected judicial independence; however, in practice constitutionally authorized laws that limit judicial review permit restrictions on individuals' constitutional rights. The president appoints judges to the Supreme Court on the recommendation of the prime minister and in consultation with the chief justice. The president also appoints subordinate court judges on the recommendation of the chief justice. The term of appointment is determined by the Legal Service Commission (LSC), of which the chief justice is the chairman. Under the ISA and the CLA, the president and the minister for home affairs have substantial de facto judicial power, which explicitly (in the case of the ISA) or implicitly (in the case of the CLA) excludes normal judicial review. These laws provide the government with the power to limit, on vaguely defined national security grounds, the scope of certain fundamental liberties that otherwise are provided for in the constitution.
Government leaders historically have used court proceedings, in particular defamation suits, against political opponents and critics. Both this practice and consistent awards in favor of government plaintiffs raised questions about the relationship between the government and the judiciary and led to a perception that the judiciary reflected the views of the ruling party in politically sensitive cases.

a. Freedom of Speech and Press
The constitution provides for freedom of speech and freedom of expression but permits official restrictions on these rights, and in practice the government significantly restricted freedom of speech and of the press. Government intimidation and pressure to conform resulted in self-censorship among journalists; however, there was a moderate level of debate in newspapers and on the Internet on some public issues such as income inequality, immigration policy, and the role of religion in public life.

I could go on, but I think that's enough to make my point. I'd rather have to endure a bit of graffiti on the trains than live in a country that doesn't respect basic human rights.

[techblitz]

https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_current.jsp

cities ranked by crime....

safety index:

pretty accurate.....they have Melbourne as the worst major city in oz....Townsville as the worst Australian city....
Melbourne is getting progressively worse on the safety index..

current   55.67
2018 mid 56.17
2018 all   57.64
2017 mid 58.36
2017 all   58.98

Canberra comes in at 18....once again enforces the accuracy of this list....you literally never hear of homicides,gang robberies etc coming out of that area...
Malmo the worst in Sweden....no surprise there....

I'm impressed by the growing number of eastern block countries showing up near the top......
Estonia,croatia,romania,slovenia,armenia,belarus......they have seen their fair share of misery in the past but these are now some of the most unified,undivided places to live......majoirty of folk get along and the majority are happy.....less reason to commit crime.......they still have poverty like most but money/wealth is irrelevant....preserving culture/identity takes precedence....literally no 'progressive vs conservative' division' aka Australia.

[SurfRail]

It's f&$king disgusting. This is what happens when there are not proper punishments handed out for the vandalism caused by complete dead beats, that provide no benefit to this country. I was in Singapore a couple days ago and everybody respects the MRT. Not an ounce of vandalism anywhere.

I think one of the most relevant considerations (leaving Singaporean attitudes to public goods aside) is that something like the MRT is so heavily patronised there is virtually no opportunity for antisocial behaviour.  Very few parts of the MRT are going to be running empty for extended periods - maybe the Tuas extension and some other peripheral bits, but nothing like the big stretches of suburban nothing we get.  Similarly in Perth because rail is a mode of choice there's limited opportunity to be a ratbag because people actually board trains in significant volumes outside of peak.

[ozbob]

NGR 701 has left Redbank and gone back to Wulkuraka.

NGR 715 remains at Redbank.





Photographs R Dow 21st January 2019

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/railbotforum/status/1087433862605561856

[ozbob]

NGRs being introduced to services on Shorncliffe and Cleveland lines from the 4th Feb 2019.

[Arnz]

NGRs being introduced to services on Shorncliffe and Cleveland lines from the 4th Feb 2019.

Non NGR Lines left: Beenleigh <> Ferny Grove, Sunshine Coast (Nambour services only), Rosewood.

Gympie North won't be getting NGRs for some time (if ever) due to ATP requirements north of Nambour.

Slightly related.  Would the NGR introduction on the Shorncliffe <> Cleveland corridor this be in conjunction with the "staff rosters" that are supposed to be in place by "February 2019" prior to the 'supposed' "2019 Timetable" later in the same month.

Source Article (re 2019 timetables): https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/seq-s-new-train-timetable-not-ready-until-after-february-2019-20181005-p5081f.html

[techblitz]

NGRs being introduced to services on Shorncliffe and Cleveland lines from the 4th Feb 2019.

theres never been two lines more deserving of the ngrs.....one has had to put up with still compromised timetables(shorncliffe)......and the other relentless overcrowding which will hopefully get better with more 6 car sets...

[ozbob]

Couriermail Quest --> Commuters on Cleveland train line to travel on new fleet

The State Government will add New Generation Rollingstock (NGR) trains to Cleveland line services from February 4.

State Member for Capalaba Don Brown said southeast Queensland's NGR fleet have gone through rigorous testing and safety assessments before being rolled out.

"The new additions to the Cleveland line mean there are now 43 NGR trains on-track and delivering on the Palaszczuk Government's pledge to build extra passenger capacity across the southeast Queensland network," he said.

State Member for Redlands Kim Richards also welcomed the rollout of the capacity-building NGR fleet to the Cleveland line.

"This is a welcome addition to public transport infrastructure for the Redlands, but there is always more to be done and I make no apology for continuing to lobby for further improvements that will benefit of our community," she said.

The introduction of NGR trains to the Cleveland line is in addition to planning work now underway for an upgrade of the Cannon Hill station.

State Member for Lytton Joan Pease said the Palaszczuk Government would also boost station staff at most stations on the Cleveland line for NGR services.

Transport and Main Roads Minister Mark Bailey said southeast Queensland was using public transport in record numbers with more than 15 million passenger trips during November in 2018 alone.

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/MarkBaileyMP/status/1089694787651887105

https://twitter.com/railbotforum/status/1089734683305234432

[ozbob]

Looks like NGR 715 might be on the move shortly.  Following a tip off from mufreight I went down to Redbank for a bo-peep.

Train has been moved a few carriage lengths and a coupler arrangement fitted to the front.  I assume this was fitted and then tested.

Expect the train will be moved to either Wulkuraka or possibly Maryborough in the coming week.





Photographs R Dow 28th January 2019

[ozbob]

Understand NGR 701 will be towed to Maryborough early this week.

[ozbob]

It would appear that 701 might be the first NGR to be rectified.  Sort of appropriate I guess .. 

[Arnz]

Cleveland <> Shorncliffe initial NGR timetable now available:

(A shame the Friday TT for Cleveland is still a complete mess post 5pm).

https://www.redlandcitybulletin.com.au/story/5874992/ngr-trains-added-to-cleveland-line-services/?cs=213&fbclid=IwAR2lyQHJ1TcI2RSATsoGLkrBZRh8o48Rc2BnU3Z6DER2MDifJPPI916Sxj4

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/Putmaryborough1/status/1090368400512114688

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/railbotforum/status/1090413197637505024

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/railbotforum/status/1090420414793146369

[ozbob]

http://statements.qld.gov.au/Statement/2019/1/30/ngr-trains-on-track-for-maryborough

Media Statements
Minister for Transport and Main Roads

The Honourable Mark Bailey

Wednesday, January 30, 2019

NGR trains on track for Maryborough

An NGR train has arrived in Maryborough to give Downer EDI staff a first look at the trains they will be working on as part of a $335 million rectification contract.

Staff will familiarise themselves with the layout and internal fittings on the six-car trains ahead of a modification project that will ensure 75 NGR trains are fitted with larger toilets and new accessibility features for people with disabilities.

Member for Maryborough Bruce Saunders said the Palaszczuk Government had delivered on its jobs commitment for Maryborough and the Wide Bay region's economy would reap the benefits of that commitment over the next few years.

"We always said these works would be carried out locally and made no apologies for that," Mr Saunders said.

"The rectification work will not only make our new trains accessible and better for everyone, particularly people with disabilities and mobility issues, but this contract will support regional manufacturing and an estimated 100 local jobs too.

"This $335.7 million program of works for the NGR trains has also been supported by an $80 million contract recently awarded to Downer to overhaul ten IMU100 three-carriage trains and 12 three-carries SMU200 series trains too.

"Those works will also be done 100 per cent locally and are further proof that the Palaszczuk Government recognises our region's important contribution to Queensland's economy and its role in the state's rail history."

Mr Saunders said all NGR rectification work would be done at Downer EDI Maryborough.

Work is due to start on the first NGR train modification later this year before all the trains are progressively upgraded by early 2024.

Visiting Maryborough today, Transport and Main Roads Minister Mark Bailey said he was pleased the people of Maryborough had certainty around the government's rail jobs commitment following the Forde Inquiry into how Queensland's NGR trains were designed and ordered.

"This is not my first visit to Maryborough and each time I've been impressed with both the facilities here and the enthusiasm of the workers. I've seen that pride in their workmanship again today," Mr Bailey said.

"Upon completion, the NGR trains will be the some of the most accessible in the country, and that will be thanks to the skill and craftsmanship of the crews here at Downer EDI.

"We expect the first NGR train to be upgraded to meet all operational and functional requirements to go back into customer service in 2020."

Downer CEO Michael Miller said Dower was delighted to be working alongside the Queensland Government to improve disability access on the QNGR fleet.

"Maryborough has a long and proud tradition of building trains for Queensland and this experience will be critical in delivering these modification works for the Queensland Government," he said.

"The program will also provide the opportunity for Downer to offer long-term sustainable employment opportunities for regional Queensland."

Mr Miller said Downer's Maryborough workshop will undergo a $10 million upgrade to enable multiple trains to be modified simultaneously.

"The initial planning and design works for this infrastructure upgrade are underway with construction works due to begin in April of this year."

The NGR modifications will include:

installing larger toilet modules (10 per cent larger than the previous design) in the middle carriages across the entire fleet to allow passengers who use mobility devices to access the toilet from both accessible carriages

doubling the number of priority seating from 24 to 48 seats per six car train

revised seating layouts that make access easier for passengers using a mobility device, and further functionality improvements to internal fittings and carriage features.

For more details on the NGR accessibility upgrades go to www.tmr.qld.gov.au/ngr.

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/ozbob13/status/1090501411266121728

[ozbob]

Just had a look at Redbank.  NGR 715 is being worked on in situ at Progress rail yards.

I would assume to get ready for movement to either Wulkuraka or Maryborough. 

Couple of workers and all doors of the train are open.  Probably to cool it down a bit.



Photograph R Dow 31st January 2019

[JustSomeTrainGuy]

Interesting post from /r/Brisbane (specifically the part about the NGR bearings)

Have QR retired the EMU's?

Not officially, a bunch of the 60-class EMU's (the ones with no driving cab on the end) are sitting in storage at Elimbah and Woombye and even out at the Ipswich Workshops.
The NGR's are being rolled out to more lines with Cleveland/Shorncliffe corridor starting next month, but so far none have been officially scrapped.
...
Well as far as we're concerned, the EMU's will be kept as backup. And all of the NGR's have to go to Maryborough to get refurbed anyway, as the current bearings are not rated to run at 140kph as we've been running them at on the Gold Coast and Springfield lines. And they're getting a second toilet module.
The 100 class IMU's will also be going to Maryborough to be fitted with ATP to run on the North Coast line north of Nambour, and several sets of EMU's have already gone to Maryborough too for a general refurb for continued use.
I'd rather be working a set of old EMU's than the NGR's any day.

[ozbob]

^ thanks.  Very very interesting ..

[ozbob]

^ thanks.  Very very interesting ..

https://www.reddit.com/r/brisbane/comments/almxsp/random_question_but_have_qr_started_retiring_the/

Well as far as we're concerned, the EMU's will be kept as backup. And all of the NGR's have to go to Maryborough to get refurbed anyway, as the current bearings are not rated to run at 140kph as we've been running them at on the Gold Coast and Springfield lines. And they're getting a second toilet module.

The 100 class IMU's will also be going to Maryborough to be fitted with ATP to run on the North Coast line north of Nambour, and several sets of EMU's have already gone to Maryborough too for a general refurb for continued use.

I'd rather be working a set of old EMU's than the NGR's any day.

Yes, first time I have heard ' bearings ' mentioned as an issue.  Will attempt to follow that up.

The mention of 100s being fitted for ATP is a good thing.  This is in line with our present emphasis on Gympie North <> Nambour services and we suggested that the 100s would be the ideal trains for that.  I might know more about that next week as I have a couple of meetings with QR.

Exciting times ... 

[ozbob]

Facebook ..

[achiruel]

installing larger toilet modules (10 per cent larger than the previous design) in the middle carriages across the entire fleet to allow passengers who use mobility devices to access the toilet from both accessible carriages

Does this mean that the earlier idea of having toilets in only 35 units has been abandoned? So will each set have two toilets, because that's the only way I can see them meeting DDA requirements, considering an accessible path past the larger toilet module will be impossible.

[ozbob]

Had another look at 715 at Redbank.  Both ends of the train have couplers fitted.  Probably suggests Maryborough might be the destination in time.







Photographs R Dow 2nd February and 31st January 2019 (last one).

[ozbob]

installing larger toilet modules (10 per cent larger than the previous design) in the middle carriages across the entire fleet to allow passengers who use mobility devices to access the toilet from both accessible carriages

Does this mean that the earlier idea of having toilets in only 35 units has been abandoned? So will each set have two toilets, because that's the only way I can see them meeting DDA requirements, considering an accessible path past the larger toilet module will be impossible.

Yes. *" adding a second unisex toilet module to all 75 trains to ensure all wheelchair accessible spaces have compliant access to accessible facilities "

* https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Projects/Name/N/New-Generation-Rollingstock/Accessibility

[ozbob]

Days since NGR 701 towed to Wulkuraka

[mufreight]

installing larger toilet modules (10 per cent larger than the previous design) in the middle carriages across the entire fleet to allow passengers who use mobility devices to access the toilet from both accessible carriages

Does this mean that the earlier idea of having toilets in only 35 units has been abandoned? So will each set have two toilets, because that's the only way I can see them meeting DDA requirements, considering an accessible path past the larger toilet module will be impossible.

Yes. *" adding a second unisex toilet module to all 75 trains to ensure all wheelchair accessible spaces have compliant access to accessible facilities "

* https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Projects/Name/N/New-Generation-Rollingstock/Accessibility

It is possible with the redesign of the toilets that compliant access could be provided between carriages 3 and 4 but TMR has had control of the redesign so it will be a gold plated lemon of a design, the sooner we get a Minister with enough guts to seperate QR from TMR and allow QR to run its own show then the sooner QR might gain some credibility and actualy make some progress again.

[Stillwater]

This from the TMR website: "All 75 NGR trains will be rectified and operating on the network by 2024."

So, five years for the rectification work to be completed on all trains.   

[SABB]

It is possible with the redesign of the toilets that compliant access could be provided between carriages 3 and 4 but TMR has had control of the redesign so it will be a gold plated lemon of a design, the sooner we get a Minister with enough guts to seperate QR from TMR and allow QR to run its own show then the sooner QR might gain some credibility and actualy make some progress again.
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I think that the problem is that QR now has more staff with "Project Manager" in their job title than "Engineer".

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installing larger toilet modules (10 per cent larger than the previous design) in the middle carriages across the entire fleet to allow passengers who use mobility devices to access the toilet from both accessible carriages

Does this mean that the earlier idea of having toilets in only 35 units has been abandoned? So will each set have two toilets, because that's the only way I can see them meeting DDA requirements, considering an accessible path past the larger toilet module will be impossible.

Yes. *" adding a second unisex toilet module to all 75 trains to ensure all wheelchair accessible spaces have compliant access to accessible facilities "

* https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Projects/Name/N/New-Generation-Rollingstock/Accessibility

Wonderful that it appears to be the full 75 

703 704 705 706 707 708 709 710
711 712 713 714 716 717 718 719 720
721 722 723 724 725 726 727 728 729 730
733 734 735 736 737 738 739 740
741 742 743 744 747 748

^41. Didn't someone somewhere say there's 43 now?

[ozbob]

Interesting response on our Facebook post  https://www.facebook.com/RAILBackOnTrack/posts/2446651095349063

https://www.facebook.com/RAILBackOnTrack/posts/2446651095349063?comment_id=2446976695316503

Thank you for taking my call on Friday 1/02/2019 regarding the below New Generation Rolling Stock Train article:
http://statements.qld.gov.au/Statement/2019/1/30/ngr-trains-on-track-for-maryborough

I am writing to you today with a huge concern of mine and something that has really angered me throughout this NGR Project process which has been non-consulting with people who are disabled!

The issue:

ON the New NGR Trains, there is no guard cabin/station that has been built into the NGR train in the middle for a guard to be stationed which alines to all the disability boarding points at every Queensland Rail station across the network? Why not? The issue with this new approach, is a lack of responsive service delivery that was once there is no longer there! For people with disability this is a huge disappointment, that this guard cabin was removed, because people who are blind are trained specifically to find the disability boarding point and stand within the disability boarding point locations at every Queensland Rail station and once the train pulled into the station, the guard would step out of his cabin and assist with our journey. It gave us confidence to travel on our own, as we new that if we needed someone the guard was there to assist us. The guard is now a long way away from us now and we do not feel safe travelling on trains any longer!

Casual staff are being hired to stand at unmanned and busy stations all day and wait for people with a disability and are not being trained correctly on how to guide people who can't see down a platform. The minister of public Transport, Mr. Mark bailey has refused to meet with people with disability to discuss this matter? This issue doesn't just effect people with a disability though:

1. it effects mothers with Prams and little children.
2. Customers with Mental health.
3. Customers who can't speak English or have just arrived in Australia.
4. Customers who are young.
5. Customers who have hidden disability's.
6. Customers who are old.

How can the State government expect a guard to help all of these types of customers by just looking through a Video camera? What happens when the Video camera breaks down? What then? A Train out of service? The State government is being very unfair, Unjust and is not looking after the traveling public! The guard has been put at the back of all NGR Trains. This means it makes it a lot harder for the guard to interact with the public traveling community. He has to look through video cameras and make a judgment on that person instead of talking with the person with a disability directly And assist them with their journey. It also makes it harder for wheelchair customers to notify staff of their destination station.

This guard cabin was removed with no consulting measures or checking what the disability community needed? We need and we require a Guard mid-train for the safe, accessible, reliable and successful journey of people of disability again. Why did the state government get rid of such a perfick , sensible and helpful system?

So I would ask that a guard cabin be re-built back into all 75 New Generation Rolling Stock Trains as soon as possible and without delay? The disability community Is waiting for our state government to do the right thing and listen. To the people that know what we need in life. Do not underestimate people with a disability!

Thank you and I await your response.

[verbatim9]

Interesting response on our Facebook post  https://www.facebook.com/RAILBackOnTrack/posts/2446651095349063

https://www.facebook.com/RAILBackOnTrack/posts/2446651095349063?comment_id=2446976695316503

Thank you for taking my call on Friday 1/02/2019 regarding the below New Generation Rolling Stock Train article:
http://statements.qld.gov.au/Statement/2019/1/30/ngr-trains-on-track-for-maryborough

I am writing to you today with a huge concern of mine and something that has really angered me throughout this NGR Project process which has been non-consulting with people who are disabled!

The issue:

ON the New NGR Trains, there is no guard cabin/station that has been built into the NGR train in the middle for a guard to be stationed which alines to all the disability boarding points at every Queensland Rail station across the network? Why not? The issue with this new approach, is a lack of responsive service delivery that was once there is no longer there! For people with disability this is a huge disappointment, that this guard cabin was removed, because people who are blind are trained specifically to find the disability boarding point and stand within the disability boarding point locations at every Queensland Rail station and once the train pulled into the station, the guard would step out of his cabin and assist with our journey. It gave us confidence to travel on our own, as we new that if we needed someone the guard was there to assist us. The guard is now a long way away from us now and we do not feel safe travelling on trains any longer!

Casual staff are being hired to stand at unmanned and busy stations all day and wait for people with a disability and are not being trained correctly on how to guide people who can't see down a platform. The minister of public Transport, Mr. Mark bailey has refused to meet with people with disability to discuss this matter? This issue doesn't just effect people with a disability though:

1. it effects mothers with Prams and little children.
2. Customers with Mental health.
3. Customers who can't speak English or have just arrived in Australia.
4. Customers who are young.
5. Customers who have hidden disability's.
6. Customers who are old.

How can the State government expect a guard to help all of these types of customers by just looking through a Video camera? What happens when the Video camera breaks down? What then? A Train out of service? The State government is being very unfair, Unjust and is not looking after the traveling public! The guard has been put at the back of all NGR Trains. This means it makes it a lot harder for the guard to interact with the public traveling community. He has to look through video cameras and make a judgment on that person instead of talking with the person with a disability directly And assist them with their journey. It also makes it harder for wheelchair customers to notify staff of their destination station.

This guard cabin was removed with no consulting measures or checking what the disability community needed? We need and we require a Guard mid-train for the safe, accessible, reliable and successful journey of people of disability again. Why did the state government get rid of such a perfick , sensible and helpful system?

So I would ask that a guard cabin be re-built back into all 75 New Generation Rolling Stock Trains as soon as possible and without delay? The disability community Is waiting for our state government to do the right thing and listen. To the people that know what we need in life. Do not underestimate people with a disability!

Thank you and I await your response.

Even though I respect the person's comments. I do not agree with his argument of retrofitting trains further. Any money spent should be on station accessibility improvements as well as ETCS. So we can move to driver only operation in the future for a sustainable high frequency network.

[ozbob]

I think it is too late now for central guards compartments to be done.  Contracts are signed and the rectification process is underway.  The operating model for NGRs is high cost in terms of labour - the many station porters required.  This concerns me as it might mean less services due to a lack of funding.   

It is difficult to imagine a more botched new train roll out.  So many issues,  all could have been avoided if we had a functioning transport bureaucracy ... we clearly don't and bumbling along without reform is a just a recipe for more failure.

[ozbob]

Couriermail Quest --> New generation trains for commuters on Shorncliffe line

NEW larger capacity trains will be available to rail commuters on the Shorncliffe line this week.

The New Generation Rollingstock (NGR) trains will operate on eight inbound and six outbound services from Monday through Friday.

Member for Nudgee Leanne Linard said the new trains were being added to Shorncliffe line services from Monday, February 4 after rigorous testing and safety assessments.

"With the addition of the Shorncliffe line there are now 43 NGR trains on-track and delivering on the Palaszczuk Government's pledge to build extra passenger capacity across the South East Queensland network," she said.

"The NGR rollout to Shorncliffe follows the recent upgrade of 24 weekly three-carriage services to six-carriage configurations to double the number of seats on key services in our region with more than 5000 extra seats every week.

"By progressively adding NGR trains and additional carriages, the number of three-car sets on the network at peak times has been reduced by more than two thirds, which means more capacity and better efficiency for passengers."

Member for Sandgate Stirling Hinchliffe said the extra capacity and arrival of NGR trains on the Shorncliffe line was welcome, but there was still more work to be done to improve the timetable.

"Passengers have told us they want to see the gap in morning peak services from Monday through to Thursday resolved and we've been working with the minister to make that a priority," Mr Hinchliffe said.

He said staff numbers would increase at most stations on the Shorncliffe line for NGR services.

"The increased customer service presence on the Shorncliffe line will mean passengers needing assistance to board NGR trains will get the help they need with the dignity they deserve," Mr Hinchliffe said.

"For passengers using Bindha station, the on-board guard will be available for those who need help to join the train."

Services with six-car NGR trains on the Shorncliffe line from February 4 include:

■ Monday to Thursday (inbound)

7.09am Shorncliffe to Cleveland

8.54am Shorncliffe to Cannon Hill

11.09am Shorncliffe to Cleveland

3.09pm Shorncliffe to Cleveland

4.09pm Shorncliffe to Manly

■ Friday (inbound)

7.24am Shorncliffe to Cannon Hill

3.39pm Shorncliffe to Manly

4.09pm Shorncliffe to Manly

■ Monday to Thursday (outbound)

6.28am Central to Shorncliffe

8.13am Central to Shorncliffe

10.13am Central to Shorncliffe

2.13pm Central to Shorncliffe

6.13pm Central to Shorncliffe

■ Friday (outbound)

8.13am Central to Shorncliffe

Scheduling may change as additional NGR train sets enter service after safety and track testing.

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/railbotforum/status/1091863712179269632