Queensland UTC +10
Terms of use Privacy About us Media Contact

Links

Author Topic: New Generation Rollingstock  (Read 211814 times)

Offline mufreight

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2994
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3360 on: July 04, 2018, 05:15:18 PM »
6 car set could be accommodated in the Ipswich workshops but they would probably have to spend $10 million or more equiping the workshops to do the work

Offline JustSomeTrainGuy

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 23
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3361 on: July 04, 2018, 08:08:53 PM »
But wasn't the 9 car Spirit of Queensland built/refurbished at Maryborough? :thinking
« Last Edit: July 04, 2018, 08:24:37 PM by JustSomeTrainGuy »

PoliticalFootball

  • Guest
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3362 on: July 05, 2018, 07:07:24 AM »
But wasn't the 9 car Spirit of Queensland built/refurbished at Maryborough? :thinking

It was built in pieces (1 car at a time) then sealed and shunted outside. Testing was also done outside due to not requiring overhead. Don't get me started on those pieces of crap either. Downer are only one step above Bombardier really.

Offline ozbob

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 81599
    • RAIL Back On Track
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3363 on: July 06, 2018, 01:30:23 PM »
https://twitter.com/Robert_Dow/status/1015075234070724608

Staff met train at Eagle Junction
No Assistance at domestic and international offered.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2018, 02:19:56 PM by ozbob »
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Bob's Blog  Instagram   Facebook  @ozbob13@mastodon.social

Offline ozbob

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 81599
    • RAIL Back On Track
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3364 on: July 06, 2018, 02:11:23 PM »
https://twitter.com/Robert_Dow/status/1015085555363659787
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Bob's Blog  Instagram   Facebook  @ozbob13@mastodon.social

Offline Stillwater

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6049
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3365 on: July 06, 2018, 03:48:33 PM »
Is the fact that QR staff did not meet NGR train at Domestic and International Airport stations because that section of Airport Line is privately owned?

Offline InclusionMoves

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 226
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3366 on: July 06, 2018, 03:53:38 PM »
Stillwater YES. Painful to try and get those two to cooperate. 

Is the fact that QR staff did not meet NGR train at Domestic and International Airport stations because that section of Airport Line is privately owned?
Geoff Trappett OAM
Phone: 0411812854
Twitter: @inclusionmoves
LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/in/geofftrappettoam
Website: www.inclusionmoves.com.au
Much of our work is pro bono: https://www.paypal.me/InclusionMoves

Offline ozbob

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 81599
    • RAIL Back On Track
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3367 on: July 08, 2018, 01:15:29 PM »
There was a dewirement last evening between Central and Roma St (down sub) involving a NGR.

Dewirements happen from time to time, but it has been suggested that this is the 3rd or 4th time that a dewirement has involved a NGR.

Anyone know anything further?

The media has been alerted to this possibility that there is a possible increased propensity for dewirements with the NGR and hopefully they might find out whether true or not.  I have planned to RTI to find out the number of times NGRs have had problems resulting in delays and cancellations, so I might just add in dewirements too. 
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Bob's Blog  Instagram   Facebook  @ozbob13@mastodon.social

Offline ozbob

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 81599
    • RAIL Back On Track
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3368 on: July 08, 2018, 01:25:56 PM »
Brisbanetimes --> NGR train at centre of network-wide delays after overhead line issues

Quote
A New Generation Rollingstock train is at the centre of the network-wide delays causing serious headaches for south-east Queensland commuters on Sunday.

Queensland Rail said an NGR train came into contact with the overhead power lines between Central and Roma Street stations at about 8.30pm on Saturday night, resulted in damage to both the train and network power supply.

QR said 1.2 kilometres of damaged overhead equipment needed to be repaired after the incident involving the Airport service and overhead lines resulted in sparks flying.

Almost 60 passengers were stranded on board the damaged NGR train for just over an hour on Saturday night before they were able to disembark.

The incident caused delays on Saturday night and they continued on Sunday, with 20-minute delays across the network and buses called in to replace affected services.

"Crews are working as quickly as possible to repair the damage and services have been restored through to Roma Street station," QR said in a statement.

"Services that would normally pass South Brisbane station on the Gold Coast, Beenleigh and Cleveland lines are being rerouted through the Tennyson loop line.

"Gold Coast and Beenleigh trains are running express from Moorooka to Roma Street stations and Cleveland trains are running express from Buranda to Roma Street, stopping only at Yeerongpilly station.

"Rail replacement buses are conveying customers wanting to access stations between Moorooka and Roma Street.

"All other services are experiencing moderate delays as they pass through the inner-city area."

QR apologised to affected customers and said it expected the repairs to be completed before the Monday morning peak hour, but vowed to keep customers informed through the TransLink website.

"Repairs are continuing today and we ask that people allow additional travel time if travelling through the inner city area," the statement read.

"Our first priority is safely repairing the damage to overhead power lines and restoring full services for our customers. Investigations will be undertaken to determine the cause of the issue."
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Bob's Blog  Instagram   Facebook  @ozbob13@mastodon.social

Offline ozbob

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 81599
    • RAIL Back On Track
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3369 on: July 08, 2018, 01:30:02 PM »
https://twitter.com/Robert_Dow/status/1015799725251936256
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Bob's Blog  Instagram   Facebook  @ozbob13@mastodon.social

Offline ozbob

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 81599
    • RAIL Back On Track
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3370 on: July 08, 2018, 01:49:55 PM »
There was a dewirement last evening between Central and Roma St (down sub) involving a NGR.

Dewirements happen from time to time, but it has been suggested that this is the 3rd or 4th time that a dewirement has involved a NGR.

Anyone know anything further?

The media has been alerted to this possibility that there is a possible increased propensity for dewirements with the NGR and hopefully they might find out whether true or not.  I have planned to RTI to find out the number of times NGRs have had problems resulting in delays and cancellations, so I might just add in dewirements too.

Just spoke with a journalist who said Queensland Rail have said that NGRs have not been previously involved with any dewirements.
They (QR) are still not calling this a dewirement, but does appear to be one according to some sources.
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Bob's Blog  Instagram   Facebook  @ozbob13@mastodon.social

Offline ozbob

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 81599
    • RAIL Back On Track
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3371 on: July 08, 2018, 01:51:53 PM »
^

https://www.queenslandrail.com.au/about%20us/Media%20Centre/Media%20Releases/Pages/Statement-on-overhead-power-issue-through-inner-city.aspx

Queensland Rail

Statement on overhead power issue through inner city

At 8.28pm last night (Saturday 7 July), we experienced an overhead power issue through the inner city area.
 
On inspection, electrical contact between a New Generation Rollingstock (NGR) train and the overhead powerlines resulted in  damage to the train and power supply.  Works are now underway to move the train and repair 1200 metres of damaged overhead equipment.
 
As a result, buses were immediately arranged to replace trains between Bowen Hills, South Brisbane and Corinda stations.
 
Crews are working as quickly as possible to repair the damage and services have been restored through to Roma Street station.
 
Services that would normally pass South Brisbane station on the Gold Coast, Beenleigh and Cleveland lines are being rerouted through the Tennyson loop line. Gold Coast and Beenleigh trains are running express from Moorooka to Roma Street stations and Cleveland trains are running express from Buranda to Roma Street, stopping only at Yeerongpilly station. Rail replacement buses are conveying customers wanting to access stations between Moorooka and Roma Street.
 
All other services are experiencing moderate delays as they pass through the inner city area.
 
We apologise to our customers who have been impacted by this issue.  Repairs are continuing today and we ask that people allow additional travel time if travelling through the inner city area.  At this stage, full services are expected to be restored for tomorrow’s morning peak period and we will keep our customers updated as repairs continue.
 
Our first priority is safely repairing the damage to overhead power lines and restoring full services for our customers.  Investigations will be undertaken to determine the cause of the issue.

We thank customers for their patience and encourage them to visit www.translink.com.au before travelling today for service updates.
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Bob's Blog  Instagram   Facebook  @ozbob13@mastodon.social

PoliticalFootball

  • Guest
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3372 on: July 08, 2018, 02:05:24 PM »
There was a dewirement last evening between Central and Roma St (down sub) involving a NGR.

Dewirements happen from time to time, but it has been suggested that this is the 3rd or 4th time that a dewirement has involved a NGR.

Anyone know anything further?

The media has been alerted to this possibility that there is a possible increased propensity for dewirements with the NGR and hopefully they might find out whether true or not.  I have planned to RTI to find out the number of times NGRs have had problems resulting in delays and cancellations, so I might just add in dewirements too.

Just spoke with a journalist who said Queensland Rail have said that NGRs have not been previously involved with any dewirements.
They (QR) are still not calling this a dewirement, but does appear to be one according to some sources.

There have been 2 previous line issues when a NGR was in the vicinity at the time. One at Kuraby I think it was and the other around Helensvale. Make your own conclusions.

Offline ozbob

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 81599
    • RAIL Back On Track
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3373 on: July 08, 2018, 02:22:59 PM »
Any idea of the dates of the previous line issues?

Seems a bit of hocus pocus going on somewhere hey?

Understand the train was NGR 722 and is being towed to Wulkuraka now.
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Bob's Blog  Instagram   Facebook  @ozbob13@mastodon.social

PoliticalFootball

  • Guest
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3374 on: July 08, 2018, 02:28:25 PM »
No sorry. Pre Comm Games that's all I know.

Offline ozbob

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 81599
    • RAIL Back On Track
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3375 on: July 08, 2018, 02:47:45 PM »
No sorry. Pre Comm Games that's all I know.

Thanks.  I do recall a dewirement pre games now.  Will check later.
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Bob's Blog  Instagram   Facebook  @ozbob13@mastodon.social

Offline ozbob

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 81599
    • RAIL Back On Track
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3376 on: July 09, 2018, 07:21:23 AM »
https://twitter.com/Robert_Dow/status/1016064058259206145
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Bob's Blog  Instagram   Facebook  @ozbob13@mastodon.social

Offline redlandsneen

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 58
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3377 on: July 09, 2018, 09:19:13 AM »
Brisbanetimes --> NGR train at centre of network-wide delays after overhead line issues

Quote
A New Generation Rollingstock train is at the centre of the network-wide delays causing serious headaches for south-east Queensland commuters on Sunday.

Queensland Rail said an NGR train came into contact with the overhead power lines between Central and Roma Street stations at about 8.30pm on Saturday night, resulted in damage to both the train and network power supply.

QR said 1.2 kilometres of damaged overhead equipment needed to be repaired after the incident involving the Airport service and overhead lines resulted in sparks flying.

Almost 60 passengers were stranded on board the damaged NGR train for just over an hour on Saturday night before they were able to disembark.

The incident caused delays on Saturday night and they continued on Sunday, with 20-minute delays across the network and buses called in to replace affected services.

"Crews are working as quickly as possible to repair the damage and services have been restored through to Roma Street station," QR said in a statement.

"Services that would normally pass South Brisbane station on the Gold Coast, Beenleigh and Cleveland lines are being rerouted through the Tennyson loop line.

"Gold Coast and Beenleigh trains are running express from Moorooka to Roma Street stations and Cleveland trains are running express from Buranda to Roma Street, stopping only at Yeerongpilly station.

"Rail replacement buses are conveying customers wanting to access stations between Moorooka and Roma Street.

"All other services are experiencing moderate delays as they pass through the inner-city area."

QR apologised to affected customers and said it expected the repairs to be completed before the Monday morning peak hour, but vowed to keep customers informed through the TransLink website.

"Repairs are continuing today and we ask that people allow additional travel time if travelling through the inner city area," the statement read.

"Our first priority is safely repairing the damage to overhead power lines and restoring full services for our customers. Investigations will be undertaken to determine the cause of the issue."

I am sickened by the waste of money on inferior quality and/or proper suitability of the NGRs.  Resources are SCARCE and TMR, QR or whichever inept orgnaisation is frittering away money like there is no tomorrow.  I'm calling for salary and bonus cuts across the board for these lame-brained idiots!

Offline ozbob

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 81599
    • RAIL Back On Track
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3378 on: July 12, 2018, 12:40:36 PM »
I have been advised that NGRs will be further expanding their revenue runs next week.

One service per day to Northgate 3.44pm Roma Street > Northgate, Mon <> Thu

Fri 4.11pm Roma St > Northgate.

In time the number of services will increase.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2018, 01:00:45 PM by ozbob »
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Bob's Blog  Instagram   Facebook  @ozbob13@mastodon.social

Offline verbatim9

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2518
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3379 on: July 12, 2018, 02:08:04 PM »
^^Thats a good sign

Offline ozbob

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 81599
    • RAIL Back On Track
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3380 on: July 19, 2018, 02:40:19 AM »
NGR (lite) UP Goodna 4.08am yesterday (18th July)  night testing?
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Bob's Blog  Instagram   Facebook  @ozbob13@mastodon.social

Offline not_available

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 152
  • SCREEEEEECH
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3381 on: July 24, 2018, 04:55:34 PM »
724 has been released into the wild.
Do I really need to clarify?
Sarcasm and rhetorical questions don't translate perfectly into written form, do they?

Offline techblitz

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2331
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3382 on: July 27, 2018, 11:40:56 AM »
just saw 728 pulling into Caboolture inbound direction

Offline ozbob

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 81599
    • RAIL Back On Track
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3383 on: July 27, 2018, 11:47:36 AM »
just saw 728 pulling into Caboolture inbound direction

Testing?
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Bob's Blog  Instagram   Facebook  @ozbob13@mastodon.social

Offline Arnz

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2271
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3384 on: July 27, 2018, 11:58:45 AM »
^^

On a related note, 717 have been sighted on test runs between Caboolture and Nambour throughout the week.  728 was also sighted north of Cab, but not sure if on test duties as well.
Rgds,
Arnz

Unless stated otherwise, Opinions stated in my posts are those of my own view only.

Offline not_available

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 152
  • SCREEEEEECH
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3385 on: July 30, 2018, 06:25:26 PM »
724 has been released into the wild.
And so has 726
Do I really need to clarify?
Sarcasm and rhetorical questions don't translate perfectly into written form, do they?

Offline MichaelJ

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 120
  • The Passenger is at the heart of everything we do.
    • Photo Gallery
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3386 on: August 02, 2018, 03:49:53 PM »
21 units available for revenue service now.  They're powering through them!
Views expressed in this post are those of the individual person and are not necessarily the views of any Government Agency or third-party Contractor.

My Photo Gallery
http://www.flickr.com/jamesmp

Offline ozbob

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 81599
    • RAIL Back On Track
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3387 on: August 02, 2018, 04:19:29 PM »
21 units available for revenue service now.  They're powering through them!

Thanks MJ ... it is overwhelming the pace ..   :P

Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Bob's Blog  Instagram   Facebook  @ozbob13@mastodon.social

Offline mufreight

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2994
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3388 on: August 02, 2018, 04:21:44 PM »
712 sighted Central Station  platform 4 at 1.49pm headed for Domben

Offline achiruel

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 330
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3389 on: August 02, 2018, 05:12:19 PM »
Does anyone know when the DDA fixes will start happening?

Offline mufreight

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2994
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3390 on: August 02, 2018, 06:21:30 PM »
Believe there is a 30 point plan that has yet to go before cabinet for approval before anything might commence and there is the $10 million extension of the sheds ate Downer's Marybrough plant to be built so they can do the modifications and so far no start on the foundations for these extensions so probably nothing will get started before the end of the year at the earliest.

Offline ozbob

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 81599
    • RAIL Back On Track
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3391 on: August 02, 2018, 07:27:34 PM »
Believe there is a 30 point plan that has yet to go before cabinet for approval before anything might commence and there is the $10 million extension of the sheds ate Downer's Marybrough plant to be built so they can do the modifications and so far no start on the foundations for these extensions so probably nothing will get started before the end of the year at the earliest.

Real shame the ' 30 point plan ' was not implemented in 2015 hey?   ::)
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Bob's Blog  Instagram   Facebook  @ozbob13@mastodon.social

Offline red dragin

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1320
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3392 on: August 02, 2018, 08:38:19 PM »
Points 1-28 are "stall" and "smoke and mirrors" until finally reaching 29 which is election campaign and 30 which is "we're broke from our election promises"

Offline ozbob

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 81599
    • RAIL Back On Track
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3393 on: August 03, 2018, 02:24:08 AM »
What happened on the 7th July ?  NGR involved in a dewirement ?

Good Morning,

Nearly a month now since the incident where a New Generation Rollingstock train came in contact with overhead wires near Central Station ( Statement on overhead power issue through inner city  https://www.queenslandrail.com.au/about%20us/Media%20Centre/Media%20Releases/Pages/Statement-on-overhead-power-issue-through-inner-city.aspx ).

What happened?  Is there any update on the ' investigations ' please?

The travelling public wants to know thank you.

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
RAIL Back On Track https://backontrack.org
« Last Edit: August 03, 2018, 02:29:38 AM by ozbob »
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Bob's Blog  Instagram   Facebook  @ozbob13@mastodon.social

Offline ozbob

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 81599
    • RAIL Back On Track
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3394 on: August 03, 2018, 02:30:55 AM »
https://twitter.com/Robert_Dow/status/1025056299749335040
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Bob's Blog  Instagram   Facebook  @ozbob13@mastodon.social

Offline Stillwater

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6049
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3395 on: August 03, 2018, 12:15:39 PM »
NGR train seen heading south through Cooroy railway station at noon today, Friday.  The destination shown was 'Santa's Express'.  Does this mean that NGRs operating the Gympielander service to Gympie North and back will be QR'S Christmas present to the people of the Sunshine Coast and Gympie?  The northbound ICE Gympielander was delayed a few minutes while the two trains crossed.

Offline JustSomeTrainGuy

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 23
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3396 on: August 03, 2018, 04:06:19 PM »
Slightly off topic; Would this mean that the onboard voice announcement would say "This is a Santa's Express train, stopping all stations" to an empty train? Or is this turned off for non revenue services?

bretto82

  • Guest
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3397 on: August 03, 2018, 04:32:30 PM »
All systems are tested on all corridors before they enter service just to fix any little bugs in the vas and gps plus doors and things plus the do train crew training at the same time

PoliticalFootball

  • Guest
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3398 on: August 04, 2018, 10:41:59 AM »
NGR train seen heading south through Cooroy railway station at noon today, Friday.  The destination shown was 'Santa's Express'.  Does this mean that NGRs operating the Gympielander service to Gympie North and back will be QR'S Christmas present to the people of the Sunshine Coast and Gympie?  The northbound ICE Gympielander was delayed a few minutes while the two trains crossed.

Doubt it. Afaik NGRs aren't currently fitted with ATP. Won't be running to Gympie until ETCS is fitted.

PoliticalFootball

  • Guest
Re: New Generation Rollingstock
« Reply #3399 on: August 04, 2018, 10:43:11 AM »
Slightly off topic; Would this mean that the onboard voice announcement would say "This is a Santa's Express train, stopping all stations" to an empty train? Or is this turned off for non revenue services?

No auto announcements are made using 'special' train numbers.

 

Sitemap 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 


“You can't understand a city without using its public transportation system.” -- Erol Ozan