Planned closures - discussion

[ozbob]

When was the power surge?  I don't remember hearing about that.  Another week on the temporary fixes would be too much of a risk in their judgement, I take it.

When the clamp failed at Milton, the live wire hit the rail and cooked a fair bit of gear as I understand it ...

[HappyTrainGuy]

When was the power surge?  I don't remember hearing about that.  Another week on the temporary fixes would be too much of a risk in their judgement, I take it.

When the clamp failed at Milton, the live wire hit the rail and cooked a fair bit of gear as I understand it ...

Yep. Track circuits took the brunt of it. Very lucky that no one was on the tracks in that area.

[Fares_Fair]

Indeed, it could have been much worse with potential for loss of life, unless there is some kind of emergency earthing along various points.

[Gazza]

Indeed, it could have been much worse with potential for loss of life, unless there is some kind of emergency earthing along various points.

The whole track is the earthing point....

[HappyTrainGuy]

Pretty sure when wires fall/come into contact with something they also deenergise before reenergising themselves after xx seconds.

[ClintonL94]

Hi Bob,

Thanks for posting those track closures while I was away..

[ClintonL94]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/bulletin/1328759691

Northgate to Gympie North track closure

From the first train on Saturday 24 March to the last train on Sunday 25 March, tracks will be closed between Northgate to Gympie North.

The last available train services before this closure are:

• 11.37pm service departing Ipswich, departing Central at 12.37am and arriving at Caboolture at 1.39am.

Services will return to normal on Monday 26 March.

Be sure to plan your journey in advance and allow for extra travel time (approximately 60 minutes) due to track works.

Bus replacement services

Buses will replace trains in both directions between Northgate and Gympie North.

Stations affected:

• Northgate
• Virginia
• Sunshine
• Geebung
• Zillmere
• Carseldine
• Bald Hills
• Strathpine
• Bray Park
• Lawnton
• Petrie
• Dakabin
• Narangba
• Burpengary
• Morayfield
• Caboolture
• Elimbah
• Beerburrum
• Glasshouse Mountains
• Beerwah
• Landsborough
• Mooloolah
• Eudlo
• Palmwoods
• Woombye
• Nambour
• Yandina
• Eumundi
• Cooroy
• Pomona
• Cooran
• Traveston
• Gympie North.

Improvement works include:

• Narangba station upgrade works
• overhead power line maintenance
• track reconditioning at Northgate
• other maintenance works between Northgate and Gympie North.

Need assistance?

Customers with a disability can call 3606 5555 or SMS 0428 774 636 for assistance.

Queensland Rail and TransLink are working together to improve the train network and provide a better experience for our customers.

We appreciate your patience as upgrade and maintenance works continue across the network.

[ClintonL94]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/bulletin/1328761969

Northgate to Shorncliffe track closure

From the first train on Saturday 31 March to the last train on Sunday 1 April, tracks will be closed between Northgate and Shorncliffe.

Services will return to normal on Monday 2 April.

Be sure to plan your journey in advance and allow for extra travel time (approximately 60 minutes) due to track works.

Bus replacement services

Buses will replace trains in both directions between Northgate and Shorncliffe.

Stations affected:

• Northgate
• Bindha
• Banyo
• Nudgee
• Boondall
• North Boondall
• Deagon
• Sandgate
• Shorncliffe

Improvement works:

• Sandgate station upgrade works
• track reconditioning
• overhead power line maintenance
• other maintenance works between Northgate and Shorncliffe

Need assistance?

Customers with a disability can call 3606 5555 or SMS 0428 774 636 for assistance.

Queensland Rail and TransLink are working together to improve the train network and provide a better experience for our customers.

We appreciate your patience as upgrade and maintenance works continue across the network.

[ClintonL94]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/bulletin/1328678918

Roma Street to South Brisbane track closure

From 9pm Wednesday 7 March until the last train, tracks will be closed between Roma Street and South Brisbane.

Train services will be affected by this closure from 8.30pm.

Services will return to normal on Thursday 8 March.

Be sure to plan your journey in advance and allow for extra travel time (approximately 30 minutes) due to track works.

Bus replacement services

Cleveland line

Buses will transport customers between Central and Dutton Park stations (on the Beenleigh line). Trains will operate between Dutton Park and Cleveland stations.

The last available train services on the Cleveland line before this closure are:

• 8.15pm service departing Central and arriving at Cleveland at 9.19pm
• 7.22pm service departing Cleveland and arriving at Central at 8.26pm.

Beenleigh line

Trains will operate express between Roma Street and Rocklea via Tennyson loop (stopping at Moorooka) then continue as scheduled from Rocklea to Beenleigh stations.

Buses will transport customers for stations between Central and Rocklea. Customers for Cleveland line trains will need to transfer at Dutton Park station.

Customers travelling on Ferny Grove services, for stations from Yeerongpilly to South Brisbane, will need to transfer to a bus replacement service at Rocklea station.

Customers requiring assistance are recommended to transfer at Central station.

The last available train service on the Beenleigh line before this closure are:

• 8.31pm service departing Central and arriving at Beenleigh at 9.33pm
• 7.29pm service departing Beenleigh and arriving at Central at 8.31pm.

Gold Coast line

Trains will operate express between Roma Street and Rocklea and as scheduled between Rocklea and Varsity Lakes.

Customers travelling to Park Road, Southbank and South Brisbane stations will need to transfer at Rocklea station for a bus connection.

Buses will transport customers between Central and Park Road.

Customers requiring assistance are recommended to transfer at Central station.

The last available train service on the Gold Coast line before this closure are:

• 8.24pm service departing Central and arriving at Varsity Lakes at 9.45pm
• 6.53pm service departing Varsity Lakes and arriving at Central at 8.08pm.

Stations affected:

• Roma Street
• South Brisbane
• South Bank
• Park Road
• Dutton Park
• Fairfield
• Yeronga
• Yeerongpilly.

Improvement works

Improvement works include:

• overhead power line works at Roma Street.

Need assistance?

Customers with a disability can call 3606 5555 or SMS 0428 774 636 for assistance.

Queensland Rail and TransLink are working together to improve the train network and provide a better service experience for our customers.

We appreciate your patience as upgrade and maintenance works continue across the network.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/bulletin/1328752578

Roma St-Y'Pilly, Corinda & Murarrie track closure

From the first service on Saturday 17 March to the last service on Sunday 18 March, tracks will be closed between Roma Street to Yeerongpilly, Corinda and Murarrie.

Services will return to normal on Monday 19 March.

The first train services on Saturday 17 March to be affected by this closure are:

Beenleigh line

    4.59am service departing Beenleigh will now terminate at Yeerongpilly at 5.40am
    3.53am service departing Bowen Hills will now terminate at Roma Street at 4.04am.

Gold Coast line

    5.48am service departing Varsity Lakes will now terminate at Yeerongpilly at 6.52am
    5.17am service departing Bowen Hills will now terminate at Roma Street at 5.26am.

Ipswich line

    5.07am service departing Ipswich will now terminate at Corinda at 5.43am
    3.45am service departing Bowen Hills will now terminate at Roma Street at 3.53am.

Richlands line

    6.18am service departing Richlands will now terminate at Corinda at 6.28am
    5.37am service departing Bowen Hills will now terminate at Roma Street at 5.45am.

Cleveland line

    4.53am service departing Cleveland  will now terminate at Murarrie at 5.27am
    4.39am service departing Bowen Hills will now terminate at Roma Street at 4.49am.



Be sure to plan your journey well in advance and allow for extra travel time (approximately 60 minutes).
Bus replacement services

Buses will replace trains in both directions between Central to Yeerongpilly, Corinda and Murarrie stations.

Customers travelling to Roma Street on the Airport, Doomben, Ferny Grove, Shorncliffe, Caboolture and Sunshine Coast lines should remain on the train.
Stations affected
CBD lines

    Roma Street
    South Brisbane
    South Bank
    Park Road

Ipswich/Rosewood line

    Corinda
    Sherwood
    Graceville
    Chelmer
    Indooroopilly
    Taringa
    Toowong
    Auchenflower
    Milton

Beenleigh line

    Dutton Park
    Fairfield
    Yeronga
    Yeerongpilly

Cleveland line

    Buranda
    Coorparoo
    Norman Park
    Morningside
    Cannon Hill
    Murarrie

Improvement works include:

    Roma Street station works
    overhead power line equipment works
    other maintenance works between Roma Street, Yeerongpilly, Corinda and Murarrie stations.

[somebody]

Was this always planned for Sat morning?  I have a memory of Fri evening.

Not cancelling the nightlink trains seems to forgo a few hours of possible work.

[ozbob]

Was this always planned for Sat morning?  I have a memory of Fri evening.

Not cancelling the nightlink trains seems to forgo a few hours of possible work.

Can't recall, however it would be hard to come up with a more disruptive track closure than this one.  I think it reflects a growing attitude by railway operators all over, punters don't really matter much it seems.  The timing is most unfortunate in the election context, this will be more grist for mill with respect to  dissatisfaction with public transport.  Thousands will be caught out by this one.

[ozbob]

Brisbanetimes --> Add an hour to travel time, train commuters warned

[HappyTrainGuy]

If they are doing planned core works I don't see a problem with shutting down other lines to maximise the available downtime. Yes, it might annoy some people but it saves having two different closures. Try looking at the tube in the UK. Name a weekend where there hasn't been a line shut for maintainence Its amusing that the BT article states that they are removing vegitation in the area considering a branch fell on the OH and tripped the power resulting in a signal fault earlier in the week.

[ozbob]

I see a  problem. The fools still have not got a clear ticketing policy for the shutdowns. We never had these constant closures once, work was done around the clock constantly, and railways prided themselves with the ability to maintain services. I have noticed some track walkers of late out and about as well, maybe some of the well practised procedures of the past are making a come back.

Another closure on the Ippy April 14.  That makes our three for the year hey?  No more?  LOL

[somebody]

We never had these constant closures once, work was done around the clock constantly, and railways prided themselves with the ability to maintain services.

Hmm, so this is a first to close Murrarie-Yeerongpilly-Roma St & Roma St-Corinda?  It is highly undesirable doing it in this way.  Much better to have trains running through Dutton Park<->Buranda as you can interchange at Buranda for regular buses and use the Tennyson loop.  And vice versa with Milton closures.

[ozbob]

We never had these constant closures once, work was done around the clock constantly, and railways prided themselves with the ability to maintain services.

Hmm, so this is a first to close Murrarie-Yeerongpilly-Roma St & Roma St-Corinda?  It is highly undesirable doing it in this way.  Much better to have trains running through Dutton Park<->Buranda as you can interchange at Buranda for regular buses and use the Tennyson loop.  And vice versa with Milton closures.

Exactly, it just seems the impacts of closures get progressively worse.  I can't recall this particular pattern of closure happening before.

[ozbob]

612 ABC Brisbane Breakfast with Spencer Howson

Planned Rail Disruptions

16 March 2012 , 9:39 AM by Scott rollinson

All weekend buses in place of trains from Roma Street to Yeerongpilly, Corinda and Murarrie - affecting Cleveland, Beenleigh/Gold Coast and Ipswich/Rosewood lines.

Jim Benstead, Acting CEO of Queensland Rail explains...

Click --> here!

[ClintonL94]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/bulletin/1331095949

Dutton Park to Varsity Lakes track closure

From 2am Saturday 28 April to last train on Sunday 29 April, tracks will be closed between Dutton Park and Varsity Lakes.

Services will return to normal on Monday 30 April.

Be sure to plan your journey in advance and allow for extra travel time due to track works (up to 60 minutes).

Bus replacement services

Buses will replace trains in both directions between Dutton Park and Varsity Lakes stations.

Stations affected:

• Dutton Park
• Fairfield
• Yeronga
• Yeerongpilly
• Moorooka
• Rocklea
• Salisbury
• Coopers Plains
• Banoon
• Sunnybank
• Altandi
• Runcorn
• Fruitgrove
• Kuraby
• Trinder Park
• Woodridge
• Kingston
• Loganlea
• Bethania
• Edens Landing
• Holmview
• Beenleigh
• Ormeau
• Coomera
• Helensvale
• Nerang
• Robina
• Varsity Lakes.

Improvements works:

• preventative maintenance between Dutton Park and Varsity Lakes.
• track work near Trinder Park and Fruitgrove stations.

Need assistance?
Customers with a disability can call 3606 5555 or SMS 0428 774 636 for assistance.
Queensland Rail and TransLink are working together to improve the train network and provide a better service experience.

[ClintonL94]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/bulletin/1331079865

Mitchelton to Ferny Grove track closure

From 8pm Thursday 5 April until the last train on Monday 9 April, tracks will be closed between Mitchelton and Ferny Grove.

The last available train services before this closure are:

• Departing Beenleigh at 5:29pm, Central at 6:34pm and arriving at Ferny Grove at 7:06pm
• Departing Roma Street at 6:51pm, Central at 6:55pm and arriving at Ferny Grove at 7:24pm
• Departing Ferny Grove at 7:28pm, Central at 7:58pm and Beenleigh at 9:27pm.

Services will return to normal on Tuesday 10 April.

Be sure to plan your journey in advance and allow for extra travel time (up to 30 minutes).

Bus replacement services
Buses will replace trains in both directions between Mitchelton and Ferny Grove stations.

Stations affected:

• Mitchelton
• Oxford Park
• Grovely
• Keperra
• Ferny Grove.

Improvement works:

• Keperra to Ferny Grove track duplication project works
• preventative maintenance works between Mitchelton and Ferny Grove.

Need assistance
Customers with a disability can call 3606 5555 or SMS 0428 774 636 for assistance.
Queensland Rail and TransLink are working together to improve the train network and provide a better service experience for our customers.
We appreciate your patience as update and maintenance works continue across the network.

[ClintonL94]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/bulletin/1331082241

Sherwood to Rosewood track closure

From 2am Saturday 14 April until last train on Sunday 15 April, tracks will be closed between Sherwood and Rosewood (including Richlands).

The last available train services before this closure are:

• departing Ipswich at 12.37am, departing Central 1.37am and arriving 1.41am at Bowen Hills
• departing Richlands at 12.38am, departing Central 12.52am and arriving 12.56am at Bowen Hills
• departing Caboolture at 12.52am, departing Central 1.58am and arriving 1.56am at Ipswich
• departing Bowen Hills at 12.37am, departing Central 12.43am and arriving 1.15am at Richlands

Services will return to normal on Monday 16 April.

Be sure to plan your journey in advance and allow for extra travel time due to track works (up to 60 minutes).

Bus replacement services
Buses will replace trains in both directions between Sherwood and Rosewood station (including Richlands).

Stations affected:

• Sherwood
• Corinda
• Oxley
• Darra
• Richlands
• Wacol
• Gailes
• Goodna
• Redbank
• Riverview
• Dinmore
• Ebbw Vale
• Bundamba
• Booval
• East Ipswich
• Ipswich
• Thomas Street
• Wulkuraka
• Karrabin
• Walloon
• Thagoona
• Rosewood.

Improvement works:

• Ipswich Motorway roadworks from Goodna to Dinmore
• overhead powerline maintenance works at Darra
• maintenance between Sherwood and Rosewood.

Need assistance?
Customers with a disability can call 3606 5555 or SMS 0428 774 636 for assistance.
Queensland Rail and TransLink are working together to improve the train network and provide a better service experience for our customers.
We appreciate your patience as upgrade and maintenance works continue across the network.

[ozbob]

We never had these constant closures once, work was done around the clock constantly, and railways prided themselves with the ability to maintain services.

Hmm, so this is a first to close Murrarie-Yeerongpilly-Roma St & Roma St-Corinda?  It is highly undesirable doing it in this way.  Much better to have trains running through Dutton Park<->Buranda as you can interchange at Buranda for regular buses and use the Tennyson loop.  And vice versa with Milton closures.

Exactly, it just seems the impacts of closures get progressively worse.  I can't recall this particular pattern of closure happening before.

TransLink website 17th March 2012 7.15am

[ozbob]

Was at Darra earlier this afternoon, noted an UP grain and an UP coalie ....

[Mozz]

I believe that QR and Translink would suggest that your sighting is......


http://turntherightcorner.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/the-princess-bride-inconceivable.jpg?w=500&h=390

[ozbob]

 

or it could be a case of

[somebody]

Was at Darra earlier this afternoon, noted an UP grain and an UP coalie ....

I guess the close down only affects those parts of the network due to the need isolate the overhead.

[ozbob]

It is reasonable to assume the freight trains have travelled Murrarie to Yeerongpilly on their way west ...

[somebody]

It is reasonable to assume the freight trains have travelled Murrarie to Yeerongpilly on their way west ...

What I mean is that the tracks and signals are undisturbed, only the overhead is switched off.

[petey3801]

With the new design of the closures, the Dual Gauge is considered a seperate line to the suburbans, so the freighters would still be able to run, just at reduced capacity (or tidal flow type movements). Same when the Dutton Park - Varsity lakes closures are on, the dual gauge line is still operational.

[mufreight]

With the new design of the closures, the Dual Gauge is considered a seperate line to the suburbans, so the freighters would still be able to run, just at reduced capacity (or tidal flow type movements). Same when the Dutton Park - Varsity lakes closures are on, the dual gauge line is still operational.

That being the case would it not be reasonable to have the overhead configured so that the DG line could be isolated from the NG lines thus enabling the operation of services from Beenleigh and the Gold Coast through to South Brisbane rather than to Yeeroongpilly.

[somebody]

With the new design of the closures, the Dual Gauge is considered a seperate line to the suburbans, so the freighters would still be able to run, just at reduced capacity (or tidal flow type movements). Same when the Dutton Park - Varsity lakes closures are on, the dual gauge line is still operational.

That being the case would it not be reasonable to have the overhead configured so that the DG line could be isolated from the NG lines thus enabling the operation of services from Beenleigh and the Gold Coast through to South Brisbane rather than to Yeeroongpilly.

You lost me here.  I'm sure the overhead on the DG is switched off also.

We're just speculating on the work they are doing.  Perhaps the tracks between Park Rd & Sth Brisbane have been disturbed.

[mufreight]

With the new design of the closures, the Dual Gauge is considered a seperate line to the suburbans, so the freighters would still be able to run, just at reduced capacity (or tidal flow type movements). Same when the Dutton Park - Varsity lakes closures are on, the dual gauge line is still operational.

That being the case would it not be reasonable to have the overhead configured so that the DG line could be isolated from the NG lines thus enabling the operation of services from Beenleigh and the Gold Coast through to South Brisbane rather than to Yeeroongpilly.

You lost me here.  I'm sure the overhead on the DG is switched off also.

We're just speculating on the work they are doing.  Perhaps the tracks between Park Rd & Sth Brisbane have been disturbed.

It would be logical for the sake of redundency to have the power circuts for the DG between South Brisbane and Yeeroongpilly seperate, and the section between theSouth Brisbane and the subs at Roma Street West as a seperate circut also, this would give the capability of still operating trains in the event of a power outage.
It would require the instalation of perhaps seven overhead isolating sections and two circut breakers, less than what was the cost of the last overhead meltdown in the terms of farebox revenue alone..

[somebody]

So that passenger trains can run from Murrarie to Corinda via Tennyson on the DG?  I don't see the value.

More important would be separation of the Corinda-Milton section from the Sth Brisbane-Yeerongpilly section.  I don't know why this wouldn't exist.

[somebody]

Where is the neutral section between Roma St and Milton/Sth Brisbane?  Logic would suggest it should be south/west of the pointwork.

[SurfRail]

So that passenger trains can run from Murrarie to Corinda via Tennyson on the DG?  I don't see the value.

That's not actually possible as the dual gauge is not electrified between the Park Road flyover and the port.

I think mufreight was talking about running trains express from Yeerongpilly to South Brisbane.  In the circumstances, that appears quite impractical, and may in fact be impossible depending on what work is being done.

More important would be separation of the Corinda-Milton section from the Sth Brisbane-Yeerongpilly section.  I don't know why this wouldn't exist.

It does.

[HappyTrainGuy]

Simon, both netural sections are located in the area of the tunnel enterance towards South Brisbane and the overhead road bridge towards Milton. If you look on nearmap during the floods you might be able to see the small yellow....... black rectangle boxes beside the rails.

[somebody]

Ok, so that's not a reason why via Indooroopilly would need to close simultaneously with via Sth Brisbane.

Is there another?

[HappyTrainGuy]

Vegitation removal, overhead inspections/tightening cables and cleaning of the corridor is happening between Roma Street-Milton. Wouldn't suprise me if its continued along or to other parts of the entire corridors along with any work being needed at Towoong and other small jobs that could be put in the window.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/bulletin/1328759691

Northgate to Gympie North track closure

From the first train on Saturday 24 March to the last train on Sunday 25 March, tracks will be closed between Northgate to Gympie North.

The last available train services before this closure are:

   11.37pm service departing Ipswich, departing Central at 12.37am and arriving at Caboolture at 1.39am.

Services will return to normal on Monday 26 March.

Be sure to plan your journey in advance and allow for extra travel time (approximately 60 minutes) due to track works.
Bus replacement services

Buses will replace trains in both directions between Northgate and Gympie North.

Stations affected

   Northgate
   Virginia
   Sunshine
   Geebung
   Zillmere
   Carseldine
   Bald Hills
   Strathpine
   Bray Park
   Lawnton
   Petrie
   Dakabin
   Narangba
   Burpengary
   Morayfield
   Caboolture
   Elimbah
   Beerburrum
   Glasshouse Mountains
   Beerwah
   Landsborough
   Mooloolah
   Eudlo
   Palmwoods
   Woombye
   Nambour
   Yandina
   Eumundi
   Cooroy
   Pomona
   Cooran
   Traveston
   Gympie North.

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Excellent day to have a major track closure, voting day.  Brainless ...

The one day when the entire community needs to get around.

And if the election was close I have no doubt that Queensland Rail would have been directed to keep all lines open tomorrow.  No doubt at all.

And before someone says ' can't change the dates of track closures '  I say BULLDUST, they have done it many times before because of weather or other changing priorities.

[Fares_Fair]

Don't want to make it too easy for those pesky, Sunshine Coast voters (amongst others) to vote now, do we?