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Propose new BUZ routes

Started by #Metro, November 15, 2009, 14:46:44 PM

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#Metro

A thread to propose and discuss new BUZ routes:

1.Down Ipswich Road- either 100 or 110.
2.North along Kingsford Smith Drive- route 300.
3.East Brisbane-Bulimba, say 230 or 235
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cartoonbirdhaus

#1
Maybe the 230 and 300 could be combined as a through-running route, if CityGlider-style arrangements were in place along that corridor. (Much less importantly, it would have a historical precedent, as this was route 170 before 12.4.1999, and tram route 70 before then.)

Another possibility is a new route, numbered 355, from Cultural Centre to Everton Park. The 350 could then be re-routed to start outbound journeys at Cultural Centre, serving KGS and Roma St, then running express to Everton Park, before observing its current stopping patttern from there to its terminus. This tiering arrangement would provide inner-city areas such as Red Hill with a decent minimum, as well as taking pressure off the existing 379/380-1 during the day. Maybe the latter group of routes could run express from the City to Ashgrove, I don't know.
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somebody

Quote from: tramtrain on November 15, 2009, 14:46:44 PM
1.Down Ipswich Road- either 100 or 110.
Simple co-ordination between the 100/110/115/117/124/125 would probably be good enough.  At the moment you can wait 28 mins for an outbound service in the middle of a weekday at QSBS.  Why 2 stop locations?  It's not quite as bad heading inbound.

#Metro

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QuoteSimple co-ordination between the 100/110/115/117/124/125 would probably be good enough.

I was thinking along the lines of a single branding and single stop in the City. And also BUZ service level (late night, weekends etc).
Last time I caught 124/125 it was torture. It is such a long, windy route that it seems to take eternity.

Max Headway's constructive route 355 has my thumbs up! :-t
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somebody

Quote from: tramtrain on November 19, 2009, 19:07:23 PM
I was thinking along the lines of a single branding and single stop in the City. And also BUZ service level (late night, weekends etc).
Last time I caught 124/125 it was torture. It is such a long, windy route that it seems to take eternity.
I was thinking of a single stop in the city too.  It's only winding after it leaves Ipswich Rd.  Did you want BUZ frequency to Archerfield or somewhere else?

Quote from: tramtrain on November 19, 2009, 19:07:23 PM
Max Headway's constructive route 355 has my thumbs up! :-t
It's pretty similar to the 351 though.  Didn't the 350 used to run to the Cultural Centre, but they stopped it doing so presumably to reduce congestion there.  I do support using KGSBS for the 351 though.

cartoonbirdhaus

Quote from: tramtrain on November 19, 2009, 19:07:23 PM
Last time I caught 124/125 it was torture. It is such a long, windy route that it seems to take eternity.
Well, the all-stops 117, 124 and 125 are more useful for local travel - for instance, getting from Salisbury to Sunnybank Plaza.
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#Metro

QuoteI was thinking of a single stop in the city too.  It's only winding after it leaves Ipswich Rd.  Did you want BUZ frequency to Archerfield or somewhere else?

I was thinking Inala/Forest Lake, and now that the rail station at Richlands is coming... perhaps terminating there.
This would allow transport to the "Beenleigh line" side of the city.

Archerfield Airport used to be Brisbane's main aviation airport before Eagle Farm.
I think it is an opportunity waiting to be discovered- a bit like Brisbane's own Avalon Airport.
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somebody

Quote from: tramtrain on November 19, 2009, 23:02:07 PM
I was thinking Inala/Forest Lake, and now that the rail station at Richlands is coming... perhaps terminating there.
So BUZ and extend the 100?  Wow, a big increase in service.

Jon Bryant

Each of our major roads need a BUZ plus Bus Lanes.  They all do not need to lead to the city but need to link up commerical centres.

This way there is a matrix of routes that lets you jump on and off routes all across the city...these will become trams routes over time.  These BUZ routes are then fed by local feeder buses (for those that cannot walk to the BUZ route or the trip is local).  These buses could also be colour coded in some way to indicate they are local to the area whilst still clealry being a Translink Bus - similar to the Spring Hill Loop.

#Metro

Hi Jon B,

QuoteEach of our major roads need a BUZ plus Bus Lanes.

I think you have been reading my mind! This is exactly my logic. Main roads connect main centres, are likely to have the congestion on them (and also go to the places people want to go) and thus be routes where the biggest gains can be made.

I know that some routes aren't that popular. But look at 345 Aspley. I don't think many people caught that bus at all, but now it is a BUZ it has more people catching it. Same with a lot of other routes.
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cartoonbirdhaus

What Jon B said - except with much more pleasing livery than the Spring Hill Loop.  :)
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stephenk

Any new Buz service that runs along the Northern Busway from RBWH to Cultural Centre would be welcome!

Maybe a Buz to replace the Doomben Line, and free up some peak track capacity?
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beauyboy

My main wishes are
380or 379 to service Waterworks Rd
375 to Service Stafford city and Bardon
330 to service Bracken Ridge & the Inner Northern Busway
300 to service Kingsford Smith Drive and Hamilton
196 to service fairfeild and the other side of New Farm
100 to service Inala and Forest Lake

am I asking to much :-r

Donald
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#Metro

We have
1. New bus factory which is churning out buses
2. New depot to house them
3. Fare hike to supply more $

Donald, no its not too much to ask. Its time for some more BUZ services down the main roads.
Citygliders might help (300-like and 192/199-like routes are on the menu) but there is no BUZ down Ipswich Road to the major centres in Acacia Ridge, Inala and Forest lake. If they can put a BUZ out to Moggil....

There is a bit of deadwood and missed opportunity in the system which recombination or alteration could fix (475 route alter, 66 + 109 merge, 104 is empty most days, 198 runs one way only-weird). These inefficiencies are locking up cash for other routes or discouraging patronage.




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Quote from: beauyboy on December 31, 2009, 07:49:04 AM
380or 379 to service Waterworks Rd
Include the 381 and this service is almost there: 15 minute frequency until around 7pm weekdays, 5pm Sat, and half hourly Sunday.  I would question why a single route needs to be made a "favourite" for a BUZ service?  If you BUZed the 380, what do you then do for the 381?  Stop running it?

Main thing that I would like is a single city stop, and getting rid of the (IMO) ridiculous North Quay routing from the inbound services.

Quote from: tramtrain on December 31, 2009, 09:43:00 AM
These inefficiencies are locking up cash for other routes or discouraging patronage.
The stupid one is the failure to put the empty counter peak services on the Northern busway into revenue service.

Golliwog

Quote from: tramtrain on December 31, 2009, 09:43:00 AM

1. New bus factory which is churning out buses


Yes we do, but my one problem with that is when they opened the new bus factory, they stopped making them at Toowong as well, or did I miss read something somewhere?
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Quote from: tramtrain on November 19, 2009, 23:02:07 PM
QuoteArcherfield Airport used to be Brisbane's main aviation airport before Eagle Farm.
I think it is an opportunity waiting to be discovered- a bit like Brisbane's own Avalon Airport.

Not going to happen Tramtrain. YBAF (Archerfield) like most other GAAP airports (Camden, Bankstown, Parafield, Jandakot) is dieing since the sale because of increased commercial costs to own and operate aircraft there.  Its role is changing significantly.  It may become an aviation commercial centre (for training and maintenance) but not a destination for jet RPT traffic such as 737's, A320's or EMB140's etc so don't expect it to grow like Avalon, if anything expect it to shrivel.

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