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Started by ozbob, September 03, 2009, 09:09:38 AM

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Cazza

https://translink.com.au/service-updates/228701

"Delays 40 mins: Route 300 buses, inbound
Route 300 buses travelling inbound along Kingsford Smith Drive will experience delays of up to 40 minutes due to a traffic incident.

There are no delays expected for buses travelling outbound."

Expect a few late buses and some cancelled services this arvo. Looks like ICB tunnel (at Breakfast Creek) is shut westbound. Good luck for all the buses trying to get out of Eagle Farm depot! I've noted a few on AnyTrip heading up to the East-West Arterial to use Sandgate Rd or the tunnel to get into the City.

https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-27.438601,153.0614706,15.23z/data=!5m1!1e1

techblitz

luckily I didn't have to work up @ Pinkenba today...I usually get the 3.50ish inbound 300 from racecourse rd  :-c

ozbob

Buses travelling along Coronation Drive in both directions are delayed up to 20 minutes due to heavy traffic congestion.
4:21 PM - 7 May 2019
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https://twitter.com/TransLinkSEQ/status/1127458113135812609

bus decided to throw a fanbelt at landsborough. Best sunbus could do was ferry pax onto the 615 and have them change at USC..
The 607 to caloundra however is timetabled to leave 10 mins before the 615 arrives at usc..
Hopefully it waited  :-\

achiruel

A friend of mine was on an i/b 555 this morning that was running about twenty minutes late, I think this might have been due to a crash on the Gateway nb at Tingalpa whose effects went right back down the M1. Zero mention of any late running services from TransLink. Absolutely pathetic.

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Quote from: achiruel 7link=topic=2695.msg222386#msg222386 date=1557703812
A friend of mine was on an i/b 555 this morning that was running about twenty minutes late, I think this might have been due to a crash on the Gateway nb at Tingalpa whose effects went right back down the M1. Zero mention of any late running services from TransLink. Absolutely pathetic.

I'm currently on board a Capalaba bound route 260, which is running approximately 20 minutes late.  Zero mention of the late running, and I did overhear the driver radio in the late running.

Makes me wonder how underreported late running is.

EDIT: Just noticed that it's now on the TL website.... When the 260 is almost arriving at Capalaba... Lol  ::)

AnonymouslyBad

Quote from: achiruel on May 13, 2019, 09:30:12 AM
A friend of mine was on an i/b 555 this morning that was running about twenty minutes late, I think this might have been due to a crash on the Gateway nb at Tingalpa whose effects went right back down the M1. Zero mention of any late running services from TransLink. Absolutely pathetic.

I'm sure the *actual* cause is just TL not getting to it, but reporting this kind of late running probably isn't useful anyway. The only people affected by an inbound 555 running late already know about it: they're sitting on the bus.

I will eat my hat if TL's late running announcements ever become more than mostly noise. If there's a major incident we get a useful (customised) message, but otherwise it's all stuff that's either posted too late, or is too minor to be meaningful. Sometimes both: yes, we definitely needed to know that a single BUZ is running late, half an hour after the fact.

techblitz

Have a read of the following convo(click link) to get the general picture of the 555...

https://twitter.com/TransLinkSEQ/status/1128466558496444418


achiruel

Quote from: AnonymouslyBad on May 15, 2019, 20:01:59 PM
Quote from: achiruel on May 13, 2019, 09:30:12 AM
A friend of mine was on an i/b 555 this morning that was running about twenty minutes late, I think this might have been due to a crash on the Gateway nb at Tingalpa whose effects went right back down the M1. Zero mention of any late running services from TransLink. Absolutely pathetic.

I'm sure the *actual* cause is just TL not getting to it, but reporting this kind of late running probably isn't useful anyway. The only people affected by an inbound 555 running late already know about it: they're sitting on the bus.

I will eat my hat if TL's late running announcements ever become more than mostly noise. If there's a major incident we get a useful (customised) message, but otherwise it's all stuff that's either posted too late, or is too minor to be meaningful. Sometimes both: yes, we definitely needed to know that a single BUZ is running late, half an hour after the fact.

Except it wasn't just that service. I checked on the real-time tracking a few services after that including the 555 and other M1 services and they were all late for at least 45 minutes after that. You don't think the pax waiting at Loganholme and Springwood for their buses might've liked to have known what was going on?

James

The thing is, all of these services have real-time tracking now anyway. So on two fronts:
1. The late-running notifications are moot for individual services as a delayed service will show up on the tracking, this said;
2. It should be easy to report late-running by simply having an automated system which checks for buses running late (say >7mins) periodically and automatically reports them. If you had a creative enough coder, you could possibly even automate this process.

I think having announcements is important though. Would also help TL as they'll then pick up on the services which are frequently running late, and possibly even have a chance to enhance the timetable accordingly.

"Thinking like a customer!"  :bg:
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techblitz

https://jp.translink.com.au/plan-your-journey/stops/eight%20mile%20plains%20station

so many late buses in there its ridiculous including almost every inbound 555  :o :o

checked 7.33


Route 555 Inbound

Springwood, Upper Mt Gravatt, Buranda, Mater Hill, City
555 Bus Inbound, 9 mins, scheduled for 7:27 AM. To Springwood, Upper Mt Gravatt, Buranda, Mater Hill, City.   7:27 am    9 mins
15 mins late


Route 555 Inbound

Springwood, Upper Mt Gravatt, Buranda, Mater Hill, City
555 Bus Inbound, 11 mins, scheduled for 7:20 AM. To Springwood, Upper Mt Gravatt, Buranda, Mater Hill, City.   7:20 am    11 mins 
24 mins late


Route 555 Inbound

Springwood, Upper Mt Gravatt, Buranda, Mater Hill, City
555 Bus Inbound, 14 mins, scheduled for 7:35 AM. To Springwood, Upper Mt Gravatt, Buranda, Mater Hill, City.   7:35 am    14 mins
12 mins late

ozbob

Yo, most bus delays are not reported.  It is but a small sample that gets the official tweet. 
Fuking hopeless if you are on a one hour frequency out in the donga and you don't have a smart phone.

James is spot on.  They should have route specific auto feeds that one could check via web and have come up on an app.  I mean how many people on the TransLink twitter feed are interested in bus delays in Cairns?
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https://jp.translink.com.au/plan-your-journey/stops/rbwh%20station

completely different contrast......most of those buses are either running ontime/early...

I think its clear now that the southern network needs immediate and massive attention and/or infrastructure..

ozbob

Yes TB  Southern is a giant cluster-fuk !

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TransLink has the data available on a daily basis.  They have known for a long time that Southern, closely followed by Western is unreliable but nothing much happens.  Data is reported, Minister exclaims ' world class ' network, off they go to morning tea with doughnuts.



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Yep absolutely atrocious o.t.r.....the off-peak would no doubt be improving the peak figures....which you would have to say are running at least 60 - 70% ontime....perhaps worse...

They would go a long way to improving that overall o.t.r figure just by fronting up and adding on more peak hour fat to the timetables.....as of now the 555 only gets allocated 5 minutes fat when its pretty clear the average late running is 10+ mins.....so there goes the 6 min on-time window  ::)

achiruel

I'm not too sure about the 555 but 545 OTR is atrocious even off-peak. Several times I have caught the FIRST 545 of the day on Saturday and Sunday and it has been 10-15 minutes late getting to Gardencity.

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James

30 minute bus delays to all services travelling down Coro Dr outbound due to a burst water main.

Traffic reporters are aware, you'd think TransLink would issue a service update, right? No. Hopeless. :fp:
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Cazza

Yesterday arvo, Coro Dr was a sh!t show too, with some buses running upwards of 30 mins late. No notifications either.

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Buses travelling through the Brisbane CBD will experience delays of up to 30 minutes due to heavy traffic congestion.
#TLAlert #TL30s #TL40s #TL50s #TL60s #TL100s #TL200s #TL300s #TL400s #TL500s
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https://translink.com.au/service-updates/235211

QuoteFrom approximately 5pm today (Friday 21 June) buses travelling through Brisbane CBD may be delayed due to a protest march in the CBD.

TransLink will continue to monitor the public transport network and update customers of any changes.

Please keep an eye out for any updates this afternoon via translink.com.au, the MyTransLink app and our social media channels.

We will keep this page updated with the latest information.

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Quote from: ozbob on July 11, 2019, 17:39:43 PM
https://twitter.com/TransLinkSEQ/status/1149218563649093633

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I mustn't have got that message... I was on time all afternoon / evening !!  :bna:
7 years at Bayside Buses
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Retired and got bored.
1 year at Town and Country Coaches and having a ball !

achiruel

Quote from: Otto on July 12, 2019, 08:41:34 AM
Quote from: ozbob on July 11, 2019, 17:39:43 PM
https://twitter.com/TransLinkSEQ/status/1149218563649093633

Rats on a sinking ship ... 

I mustn't have got that message... I was on time all afternoon / evening !!  :bna:

I think it was mostly the western services (4xx/100) that were affected due to a crash on the Centenary Hwy.

techblitz

https://www.facebook.com/TransLinkQLD/posts/3431897863502921

QuoteYet another shocker at Mater Hill bus stop for the 100. Three buses have passed full with 20 people waiting here for half an hour to go home. Might it be worth an express route out to the suburbs??

speaking of the 100....noted S1650 pulling into inala doing some training....my bus pulled up behind it...so got an opportunity to follow the extended bus as it worked its way through all the roundabouts in inala/forest lake which obviously makes a good training ground for the new drivers  :bu

achiruel

Would there be any value in having the 100 stay on the busway until Greenslopes and then having it get to Ipswich Rd via Bairnsdale Pl/Ridge St/Lewisham Rd/Ekibin Rd East/Cracknell Rd?

Then leaving the inner part of Ipswich Rd to be served by 124/125.

James

Quote from: achiruel on July 12, 2019, 13:33:25 PM
Would there be any value in having the 100 stay on the busway until Greenslopes and then having it get to Ipswich Rd via Bairnsdale Pl/Ridge St/Lewisham Rd/Ekibin Rd East/Cracknell Rd?

Then leaving the inner part of Ipswich Rd to be served by 124/125.

You miss the PA Hospital by using that route. I imagine such a proposal would go down like a lead balloon. The only transfer which isn't really catered for by going via PA Hospital busway would be to the 120 and 180, and the 120 runs pretty close (geographically) to the 120 in the whole scheme of things.

I'd actually like to add a 100 BUZ stop around Balaclava St personally - there's a long stretch there in Woolloongabba which has pretty poor service from the BUZ network, but plenty of all-stops services.
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achiruel

Stops missed: Route 553

Last reviewed: Sunday 4 Aug 2019 at 1.16pm (17 minutes ago)

The following stops will be temporarily unavailable due to a police incident:

Inbound

Clarks Rd near Meadows Cct, Loganholme
Clarks Rd near Dewar Dr, Loganholme
Jalan St near Murrami Ct, Tanah Merah
Pintu Dr near Tanah Merah Ave, Tanah Merah

Outbound

Pintu Dr near Tanah Merah Ave, Tanah Merah
Jalan St near Nandala Dr, Tanah Merah
Jalan St near Murrami Ct, Tanah Merah
Jalan St near Mallee Dr, Tanah Merah
Clarks Rd near Drews Rd, Loganholme
Clarks Rd near Corndale St, Loganholme

The nearest stop for passengers are located at:

Inbound

Alamein St near Lae St, Beenleigh
Alamein St near Juniper Ct, Beenleigh
Drews Rd near Barokee Dr, Tanah Merah
Loganholme Station

Outbound

Loganholme Station
Drews Rd near Piari St, Tanah Merah
Drews Rd near Boeing St, Tanah Merah
River Hills Rd near Eagle Dr, Eagleby

Affected services
Bus
553

achiruel

The 6.30pm route 66 southbound bus is cancelled due to heavy traffic congestion. The next southbound route 66 bus departs RBWH Station at 6.40pm.

^ How does a bus that runs exclusively on the busway get delayed by traffic congestion?

James

Quote from: achiruel on August 09, 2019, 18:31:21 PM
The 6.30pm route 66 southbound bus is cancelled due to heavy traffic congestion. The next southbound route 66 bus departs RBWH Station at 6.40pm.

^ How does a bus that runs exclusively on the busway get delayed by traffic congestion?

It's possible that this trip was the start of a run and got held up getting to the start of the route, or got held up by a previous run.

Getting a little more far-fetched, it is possible the 6:30pm 66 was sent out to cover another run, or the congestion at CC caused by the protest was bad enough to make the 6:30pm 66 late enough to cancel it and run it back to the depot / UQ Lakes empty.
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timh

Quote from: achiruel on August 09, 2019, 18:31:21 PM
The 6.30pm route 66 southbound bus is cancelled due to heavy traffic congestion. The next southbound route 66 bus departs RBWH Station at 6.40pm.

^ How does a bus that runs exclusively on the busway get delayed by traffic congestion?

Probably Victoria bridge. There was a big crash northbound on the M3. Everyone diverted to alternate routes so the intersection of Busway/Melbourne/grey street was probably heckers. Silly bus queues across the Victoria bridge probably ensued.

Brisbane metro is looking pretty good at the moment

HappyTrainGuy

I was wondering why no outbound buses were going past. Looked across the road and terminating 300/306/320/330/333/345 buses are queued up. Metro would be nice but having a proper network would be better in the mean time.

ozbob

Quote from: HappyTrainGuy on August 09, 2019, 21:42:38 PM
I was wondering why no outbound buses were going past. Looked across the road and terminating 300/306/320/330/333/345 buses are queued up. Metro would be nice but having a proper network would be better in the mean time.

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Quote from: ozbob on August 10, 2019, 00:55:26 AM
Quote from: HappyTrainGuy on August 09, 2019, 21:42:38 PM
I was wondering why no outbound buses were going past. Looked across the road and terminating 300/306/320/330/333/345 buses are queued up. Metro would be nice but having a proper network would be better in the mean time.

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Its not many but from most of my observations its mostly boarding times and terminating buses/west end buses that are causing most of the congestion across the Victoria Bridge. All it took was 2 buses wanting to turn right and suddenly the entire platform was useless as buses have half pulled out but not far enough that the first bus waiting on the bridge can't enter the platform area because the 2 buses that have terminated are now blocking the entire south eastern busway and network.

Surely restricting local traffic in the area during peak along with fixing the bus network can prolong the need for metro anyway.

ozbob

The 4.18am route N154 outbound bus is cancelled due to an operational issue.

The next outbound route N154 bus departs Eagle Street Stop 153, Brisbane City at 5.18am.

:-[
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James

Quote from: HappyTrainGuy on August 10, 2019, 01:17:44 AMIts not many but from most of my observations its mostly boarding times and terminating buses/west end buses that are causing most of the congestion across the Victoria Bridge. All it took was 2 buses wanting to turn right and suddenly the entire platform was useless as buses have half pulled out but not far enough that the first bus waiting on the bridge can't enter the platform area because the 2 buses that have terminated are now blocking the entire south eastern busway and network.

Surely restricting local traffic in the area during peak along with fixing the bus network can prolong the need for metro anyway.

You're right HTG.

In this case, simply giving a direction for buses to go the long way (via Melbourne St, Montague Rd & across Grey St to Hope St) would have at least gotten some of these buses moving and out of the way. You get a similar issue at the Melbourne St Portal - the West End buses force an additional traffic light phase.

Until we get Metro though, there is definitely more capacity to gain at CC if you re-route some of the 3XX and 4XX buses and send them directly to QSBS/terminate them on the northern side of the river, e.g. at Parliament.
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