Level crossings and Grade separation - level crossing removal

[HappyTrainGuy]

Radio message may well have been communicated there was just not enough time I suggest.  Also vision of the crossing may have been impaired on approach from glare, and there is the issue of drivers experiencing vehicles regularly going across as they approach from Bindha as well.

This morning I was on the Ipswich Highway at the time of crash yesterday this morning travelling in the same general direction, the sun was blinding.

Glare could have been a real issue. Since it was a vey low trailler from a distance it could have looked similar to the natural elevated shape of the level crossing (the white trailler would have continued the white reflections along the tracks). The transformers position (inbound track with a portion over hanging onto the outbound track - enough so it clipped the cab) would have been hidden in the foreground of the inbound station (same colour as the transformer btw)/inbound platform trees and the white truck cab could have blended into the white safety fencing/outbound platform station building. When the train got close enough for the driver to realise that there was indeed a truck blocking the level crossing 240t of EMU just couldn't slow down enough. Its only speculation on my behalf but it wouldn't suprise me if that played some part.

Re the specs for being a overdimensional load for level crossings.

You are required to obtain permission from Queensland Rail to take over dimensional road loads across Queensland Rail infrastructure under the Transport Infrastructure (Rail) Regulation 2006. Typical examples of such loads are houses, earthmoving equipment, transformers, machinery or agricultural equipment.

If a road load exceeds any of the requirements listed below, and it is required to transport such load across Queensland Rail infrastructure, you must apply for permission in the form of a permit or a confirmation issued by Network Access' Over Dimensional Road Loads Section. This permit or confirmation ensures safe travel over all Queensland Rail infrastructure and the type of authority will depend on the type of load being transported and the required route.

For more information of the legislative requirements, view the Transport Infrastructure (Rail) Regulation 2006 available on the Office of the Queensland Parliamentary Counsel web site.

If you would like more information please see the Frequently Asked Questions. If you would like to submit an application, please view the Application Process, call 07 3235 1719, or email us at road.loads@qr.com.au.

Written permission must be obtained where:

3. It is necessary to drive a vehicle that has the following over-weight dimensions:

    The axle mass for any single axle of the vehicle is over 12 tonnes;
    The total of all axle masses for any 9m of the vehicle's length is over 48 tonnes; or
    The total of all axle masses for the vehicle is over 105 tonnes.

2. It is necessary to drive a vehicle that has the following over-height dimensions, if the vehicle is higher than:

    A height barrier for the crossing;
    Were the South East Queensland electrified track crosses an access road (4.1m);
    Were the South East Queensland electrified track crosses another road (5m);
    Were another electrified railway track crosses an access road (4.3m); or
    I any other situation where the vehicle exceeds the height restriction (5.2m).

3. It is necessary to drive a vehicle that is longer than 35m.

4. It is necessary to drive a vehicle that is wider than:

    5.5m; or
    The distance between the posts of a height barrier for the crossing.

The Overdimensional Authority Application Process

    Step 1 - Download the application to move over-dimensional road loads form
    Step 2 - Complete form and fax it to 07 3235 2544 or send an email to road.loads@qr.com.au
    Step 3 - Our team will fax back a confirmation or permit four working days prior to the load being transferred
    Step 4 - It is then your responsibility to provide your driver and the Police with a copy of this authority. The Police will require three working days notice.

When do I need to obtain permission from Queensland Rail to travel?

You must have the necessary authority when the load exceeds legislative requirements set down in the Transport Infrastructure (Rail) Regulation 2006. A summary of these requirements can be found at overdimensional loads overview. For more details, refer to the Transport Infrastructure (Rail) Regulation 2006 available on the Office of the Queensland Parliamentary Counsel web site.

Why do I need a permit?

A permit is an authority to travel, under specific conditions, and is issued to manage adverse affects on Queensland Rail's rail network. A permit is a legislative requirement, and it is important to ensure the safety of all people involved in the transportation of over dimensional road loads, Queensland Rail staff and the general public.

A permit also ensures that all Queensland Rail network infrastructure is protected from potential damage and that the police are informed of Queensland Rail network requirements. Police must check the permit before travel.

Why do I need a confirmation?

A confirmation is authority to travel without added restrictions from QR Network. It is a requirement of the Queensland Police that Over-dimensional road loads are checked for dimension and route by Queensland Rail before travelling.

The police require all over-dimensional road loads to have a confirmation from Queensland Rail even when it does not travel over Queensland Rail infrastructure.

There is no charge for a confirmation.

What is the application fee?

The fee varies, depending on the over dimensional road load and complexity of the application. A list of the relevant fees can be found at Overdimensional loads charges.

Is there an additional fee if I change the details on my application?

You may have to pay an additional permit fee to cover the extra work required to process the change requested. An additional permit fee may apply if the following changes are made outside of the relevant time frames specified by Queensland Rail:

    a change of route;
    a change of date; or
    change of dimensions.

A list of the relevant fees can be found at Overdimensional loads charges.

When I have a change of details, do I have to send a whole new application?

No. You simply put a line through the original information that you want to change and write the new information next to or directly above the obsolete information; then re-fax the application.

How much notice does Queensland Rail require?

The applicable Application Form sets out how much notification must be received by Queensland Rail before the transportation of an over-dimensional road load on Queensland Rail infrastructure. Depending on the type of load that is being transported, different requirements need to be met.

What happens if I don't obtain an authority?

You may incur penalty units under the Transport Infrastructure (Rail) Regulation 2006 and be liable for any damages to Queensland Rail network infrastructure.

Please note that a permit or confirmation does not prevent liability including damage to Queensland Rail property and personal injury to any person.

Police escorts should not allow the move to proceed without a written Queensland Rail permit or confirmation to cross the rail infrastructure.

Why must I list overbridge and open level crossings in the application?

This allows routes to be checked in order to ensure the safety of both Queensland Rail's infrastructure and all concerned parties.

Why must I list the time that the over dimensional road load will cross an open level crossing?

Queensland Rail requires an estimated time so we can:

    inform our Train Control to ensure the safe passage of any trains
    allocate staff at the correct times (if required)
    avoid incidents involving trains and rail mounted vehicles that can use the track at anytime.

How do I apply for permission?

Apply to move an over-dimensional road load through Queensland Rail's Over Dimensional Road Loads Division.

What should I do if I haven't received a permit or confirmation from Queensland Rail?

If you have not received a permit or confirmation by 10 am four working days prior to the move, it is important to call Queensland Rail on 07 3235 1719 as soon as possible. If you do not contact Queensland Rail your move on the required date may be in jeopardy.

Ed:  added source

http://www.queenslandrail.com.au/NETWORKSERVICES/Pages/OverdimensionalLoads.aspx

[ozbob]

Channel Nine News have conducted an interview on level crossings including the one at Banyo this morning.

I stressed the need for adherence to road rules and safety commonsense.  I highlighted that fact there are around 54 open level crossings around Brisbane lines and they are not going to be grade-separated any time soon, other the planned overpasses at Geebung and Bald Hills.  I also mentioned a member's observations at Kuraby yesterday.  Despite the incident at Banyo yesterday morning, vehicle drivers, pedestrians and bicycle riders are still putting their own and others lives at risk.  There is a need for our community to face up to our real responsibilities, not only at level crossings but on the roads generally.  It is sickening ..

Some discussion about the upgrade options at Banyo as identified in the 2008 study.

I was advised that my comments did not make the final cut. Thanks for the courtesy. I avoided sensationalism.

[petey3801]

Channel Nine News have conducted an interview on level crossings including the one at Banyo this morning.

I stressed the need for adherence to road rules and safety commonsense.  I highlighted that fact there are around 54 open level crossings around Brisbane lines and they are not going to be grade-separated any time soon, other the planned overpasses at Geebung and Bald Hills.  I also mentioned a member's observations at Kuraby yesterday.  Despite the incident at Banyo yesterday morning, vehicle drivers, pedestrians and bicycle riders are still putting their own and others lives at risk.  There is a need for our community to face up to our real responsibilities, not only at level crossings but on the roads generally.  It is sickening ..

Some discussion about the upgrade options at Banyo as identified in the 2008 study.

I was advised that my comments did not make the final cut. Thanks for the courtesy. I avoided sensationalism.

Probably why your comments didn't make the cut 

[ozbob]

There is a sort of 'maxim' in journalism unfortunately Petey, it reads basically as 'if it bleeds it reads ... '

Pointing out the correct situation rarely  ' bleeds ' ...   it is a great shame in some respects that the 5 second sound byte is what determines the view point.

I, battle on ...

[Set in train]

I wonder what John Fraser thinks of the design?   

indeed. I cannot stand that man/woman/thing's comments. They defile almost every Brisbane Times article comment feedback.

[ozbob]

Couriermail --> Train operator's view of tracks under spotlight

[ozbob]

Minister for Transport and Main Roads
The Honourable Scott Emerson
17/09/2012

Government backs level crossing safety trials

The Newman Government will soon be testing three innovative solutions to make open level crossings across Queensland safer.

Transport and Main Roads Minister Scott Emerson said three companies were now shortlisted as part of the Rail Level Crossing Safety Technology Trial.

"We're committed to doing everything possible to save lives at level crossings, which is why we announced the $1 million trial in June," Mr Emerson said.

"Following our call for proposals from rail safety technology suppliers we have shortlisted three companies; NFA Innovations Pty Ltd, La Trobe University and Railnet Safety Systems Pty Ltd.

"Their ideas include different radio break-in systems that warn vehicles to stop as they approach level crossings and solar powered lighting/signage systems that would not be affected by electricity outages.

"These ideas, as well as a number of other trials currently underway such as the valet in-roads light system in Innisfail, will help us identify and evaluate a range of potential level crossing safety improvements."

Mr Emerson said the successful applicants had been notified and would now enter the next stage of the process where parties will prepare a comprehensive proposal including the identification of suitable trial sites.

In the first six months of 2012, there have been 213 reported near misses on the Queensland Rail network, 130 of which occurred in south east Queensland and 83 of which occurred in regional Queensland.

"While these trials look to improve level crossing safety, motorists and pedestrians must continue to play their part and simply follow the rules - obey the signs and signals," Mr Emerson said.

In June, Queensland Rail launched a new confronting level crossing safety campaign, crosses, to highlight the seriousness of this behaviour, and the message is clear - don't gamble with your life at a level crossing.

[#Metro]

Why can't there be a detection loop built into every suburban crossing?
The gates would come down, activating the detection loop which would detect if ANYTHING is present
above the crossing while the gates are down. If there is, an alarm should sound or something should go off at the control centre?

[Golliwog]

Why can't there be a detection loop built into every suburban crossing?
The gates would come down, activating the detection loop which would detect if ANYTHING is present
above the crossing while the gates are down. If there is, an alarm should sound or something should go off at the control centre?

If you mean the same type of loop as used to trigger traffic lights (an induction loop IIRC) then it could probably be done, but as I understand it they just have a current induced by ferric metals so would go off for the train as well, not to mention getting them to not detect the rails/steel sleepers.

[red dragin]

Proximity sensors covering the crossing space and/or a sensor to detect a fully down boom gate can't be that hard to do either. Then radio cut in to the cars & approaching trains?

[#Metro]

you could even use a laser or something like this. Very low tech. And none of the problems with electromagnetic sensing. Crossings should also have EMERGENCY STOP buttons which you can press which will set off alarms - rather than frantically trying to look for phone phone numbers while on the verge of death. And you could also update the driving in queensland book to include a section on what to do if you do get stuck on a crossing.

There are level crossings in England where they have a phone built into the crossing so that if anything goes wrong, you just pick up the emergency phone. We already have these on freeways, why not rail crossings? Incidents seem common enough...

[ozbob]

Having a phone is a good idea, prone to abuse but that can be worked around I suppose.  Maybe an 'emergency' button that triggers a CCTV and someone at control can quickly check as well as suggested.

Technological safety layers can induce a false sense of security, and there is always the problem of what happens if it fails or radio may be off, a false sense of confidence can be endeared. 

Rumble strips, valet lighting, solar powered lights (traffic lights too) and signs.   There has been a lot of discussion in the past of adding traffic lights to some crossings. Been done at Wacol effectively and has seemed to reduce the occurrences there, although there are still plenty of idiots racing booms and in some cases driving around down booms. 

[HappyTrainGuy]

I'd also say no to a public radio/phone system as that would add another coms channel to be maintained and looked after (wouldn't be as bad for the city but futher out it would be a pain in the rear end to maintain and look after). When the railways had and used their own trackside phone system one issue that kept happening was that vandals kept using/cutting/tampering/even stealing the phone which meant all the boxes at the time got massive padlocks put on them until radios became the norm and they were removed. An intercom system similar to the stations might be on to something but instillation and upkeep for remote areas could be a issue. Something like the Clem7/Airport Link tunnels with it broadcasting on the radio might work for out of the city but that's a useless system if someone happens to be listening to a CD/Ipod or simply has the radio/volume turned off. A system with more functionality would be practicle. Clamping down on running thru or remaining stationary on the level crossings should be looked at more with tougher penalities to start with.

If a train driver contacted control all the drivers would have heard that communication. In theory a driver near the area could have already responded and applied action before control even called that specific train number out. If a station attendant jumped on their radio the train drivers wouldn't hear any of it due to it being on a different coms channel for obvious reasons (multiple staff coms channels ie inner city coms (RS-FV)/all coms etc vs driver/control coms channels vs yard coms vs mtce/track gang coms channels). Then you have someone relaying that information between the two systems to the correct workstation where the person attending that workstation can relay a general order for crews in that area (similar to spads) or to specific crews depending on the information and time they have at hand - closest moving train 3 stations away might get told to stop at the station leading up to it etc. Anyway, its all speculation at this point until a preliminary/final report is made. I was only there for a little while and the amount of dribble, over exaggerating and sudden railway experts that had indepth knowledge of radio communications and timings/locations of each driver when they received that information that I heard coming from people was just plain crazy.

Edit: Spelling.

[ozbob]

Brisbanetimes -->  Radio warnings to be trialled at rail crossings

[HappyTrainGuy]

What about removing boomgates with rising bollards?

[Gazza]

One thing I think would be good is something like the rail crossings in Japan which display an arrow showing the direction the train is coming from.
Useful too, because if two trains are coming both ways it shows that too.

[ozbob]

In Jordon at our Dead sea hotel we had this thing lift out of the road with big spikes on it. Like a book laying flat opening up.

As much as I love to see idiots cars get written off for doing such stupid things, what is the cost of this? Maybe we only need to target a few key LX, with results will published  to make people think a bit more.

This is a very very cool post, congratulations .. RTT  I like ..

[ozbob]

Maybe the Adelaide Auto bahn could have the rising bollards

[Gazza]

Maybe the Adelaide Auto bahn could have the rising bollards

Adelaide Autobahn: ??

[SurfRail]

While I'm sure RTT meant the O-Bahn, the one-way Southern Expressway might benefit from them as well when the flow changes!

[ozbob]

Correspondence received from BCC:

9th October 2012

TELEGRAPH ROAD OPEN LEVEL CROSSING REPLACEMENT PROJECT

As you may be aware, Brisbane City Council and the Queensland Government recently agreed to
jointly fund the replacement of the Telegraph Road Open Level Crossing at Bracken Ridge and the
Robinson Road Open Level Crossing at Geebung. Both projects will improve safety and reduce
congestion.

These projects are part of Lord Mayor Graham Quirk's commitment to tackle traffic congestion by
investing $1.4 billion in transport initiatives this financial year. This investment will also create jobs and
keep our economy growing.

The projects are also a key component of the Queensland Government's strategic transport plan which
identified the crossing replacements as vital to increase road system efficiency, particularly for public
transport and freight through this corridor.

The Telegraph Road Open Level Crossing Replacement Project will involve:

. a new four lane road-over-rail overpass
. a new road connection from the intersection of Lacey and Linkfield Roads that joins to the
existing Telegraph Road, west of Norris Road
. an upgrade to the intersection of Lacey and Linkfield Road including signalisation and on
road bike lanes
. removal of the level crossing and boom gates
.  closing Telegraph Road on the eastern side of the existing crossing.

The design for the project is expected to be finalised by early 2013 with construction expected to start in
mid-2013.

==============

ROBINSON ROAD OPEN LEVEL CROSSING REPLACEMENT PROJECT

As you may be aware, Brisbane City Council and the Queensland Government recently agreed to
jointly fund the replacement of the Robinson Road Open Level Crossing at Geebung and the
Telegraph Road Open Level Crossing at Bracken Ridge. Both projects will improve safety and
reduce congestion.

These projects are part of Lord Mayor Graham Quirk's commitment to tackle traffic congestion by
investing $1.4 billion in transport initiatives this financial year. This investment will also create jobs and
keep our economy growing.

The projects are also a key component of the Queensland Government's strategic transport plan which
identified the crossing replacements as vital to increase road system efficiency, particularly for public
transport and freight through this corridor.

The Robinson Road Open Level Crossing Replacement Project will involve:

. building an overpass over the rail line to join Robinson Road East and Robinson Road West
. extending Railway Parade along the rail line to meet the overpass on its northern side at a new
intersection at Bassano Street
. installing traffic signals at either end of the overpass (Newman Road and Bassano Street)
. closing the open level crossing prior to completing the project.

A number of properties are currently being acquired for the project. The owners of these properties
have already been contacted by the project team and early works to remove some buildings have now
commenced. The main construction phase of the project is expected to start mid-2013.

[ozbob]

From the Brisbanetime click here!

Rub out rail crossing runners: lobby group

Rub out rail crossing runners: lobby group
October 13, 2012 - 3:00AM Tony Moore

Motorists who ignore warnings at rail crossings should have their driver's licences cancelled for 12 months, the state's leading rail lobby group said yesterday.

Queensland Transport yesterday revealed boom gates on Brisbane's train network were struck by vehicles 80 times in 2011-12.

Already Queensland Transport has taken legal action against 38 people and recovered more than $200,000.

Rail Back on Track spokesman Robert Dow yesterday called for licences to be cancelled.

"Not only should there be full cost recovery for these careless and dangerous acts of irresponsibility, they should also be disqualified from driving for at least 12 months for the first offence," Mr Dow said in a statement.

"For the second offence, it should be life."

However, Transport Minister Scott Emerson said those penalties were too severe and a matter for the courts.

Instead, Mr Emerson backed a call from the RACQ, the state's motoring lobby group, to toughen the awareness program around rail crossings, rather than penalties.

Mr Emerson said Queensland Transport now planned action against a further 63 claims where boom gates were damaged.

"We are fed up with the costly damage and will continue to pursue drivers for the repair costs of infrastructure," he said.

"We ask that people obey the warning signs and signals and stop – this could save them not only money, but also their life."

RACQ spokesman Paul Turner said while RACQ's "big picture" program was to eliminate level crossings altogether, he said it was time to re-focus the government's safety strategy, rather than simply increase fines or cancel licences.

"We need a bit of a campaign from the government around rail crossings, rather than going straight to the penalty," he said.

"Maybe it's a case of raising the awareness as well."

Mr Turner said the indifferent attitudes of motorists and commuters at level crossings were causing major traffic congestion and chaos.

He did not think increasing the fines would have an impact.

"People are just being silly and they shouldn't try to rat-run a rail crossing," he said.

"It doesn't end well.

"It can either cost them their lives, or it is costing parts of Brisbane several hours in travel congestion and rail chaos."

Mr Emerson said 427 people risked their lives at level crossings in 2011 alone, often forcing train drivers to take emergency evasive action.

He agreed that a new awareness campaign was needed.

"In fact we recently launched a campaign called Crosses," Mr Emerson said.

"This campaign highlighted the risks and devastation associated with people racing trains on our level crossings."

A million-dollar level crossing safety trial is also underway, he said.

"Three companies have since been shortlisted as part of the Rail Level Crossing Safety Technology Trial," he said.

"While these trials will look to improve level crossing safety, motorists and pedestrians must continue to play their part and follow the rules."

On Thursday, there was a level crossing crash at Beams Road that interrupted Caboolture line trains between Northgate and Bald Hills.

Yesterday, Gold Coast and Beenleigh trains were interrupted after a vehicle ran through a boom gate near Runcorn.

On September 14, at Banyo there was extensive damage when a Shorncliffe line train collided with a truck that had become wedged in the rail tracks. The truck driver was badly injured.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/rub-out-rail-crossing-runners-lobby-group-20121012-27ily.html#ixzz2978diIgr

[ozbob]

How many failed ' campaigns' have we had now?

Ban the idiots!  That will focus minds and behaviours ...

[ozbob]

Sent to all outlets:

11th October 2012

Re: Gosh, didn't see it ...

Greetings,

Longer term more has be done with grade separation (road and rail separated).

Interesting facts:

Melbourne has around 172 level crossings, Sydney has 8, Brisbane 54. A failure to grade-separate network critical crossings is contributing to massive congestion and network issues. An urgent priority for Brisbane is to move forward with grade separation immediately, at least two of the 54 are to be done and that is welcome. More needs to happen however. In Melbourne some level crossings remain closed for up to 45 minutes or so at a time at peaks. Neglect is hurting.

Time to bite the bullet big time!

Cheers
Robert

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
RAIL Back On Track http://backontrack.org

Sent to all outlets:

11th October 2012

Gosh, didn't see it ...

Greetings,

Yet another vehicle hitting boom gates and power lines, stopping trains on the Caboolture line this time.

http://jp.translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/details/1349937556
 

Last updated: 4.43pm Thursday 11 October 2012

A vehicle has struck the boom gates at Beams Road near Sunshine station on the Caboolture train line.

It has also brought down overhead powerlines which have affected the train service.

Train services to Caboolture are currently suspended between Northgate and Bald Hills.

Buses are being arranged to transport passengers between these two station.

Police and electricians are en route to the location.

Passengers can expect delays up to one hour.

Not only should there be full cost recovery for these careless and dangerous acts of irresponsibility, they should also be disqualified from driving for at least 12 months for the first offence.  Second offence life.

Clearly vehicle drivers just don't care.

Time the Minister for Transport and Main Roads acted!

Best wishes,
Robert

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
RAIL Back On Track http://backontrack.org

[Stillwater]

Is it the case that motorists just don't recognise the flashing red lights at level crossings?  At selected crossings, perhaps, the traditional red-yellow-green traffic signal should be installed, in addition to boom gates and signals, to reinforce the message that a bloody big train is coming.  Drivers are more conditioned to stop at conventional traffic signals.  Driver training manuals should also have a specific level crossing behaviour component.

[ozbob]

Sent to all outlets:

12th October 2012

Re: Gosh, didn't see it ...

Greetings,

Queensland Rail and passengers have had enough.  Time to act.

Here is a plan.

Immediate -

Increase sanctions for level crossing breaches, disqualification for a year first offence, second life.  Continue education program, particularly heavy vehicle drivers to check all heights and widths of their vehicles and loads and select safe routes.  Prominent publicised cameras to record breaches.

Medium term -

Consider placing of additional modified traffic signals at high risk crossings to augment present flashing lights, signs and booms.  Wacol level crossing is a good example of how this has helped.

Longer term -

Continued accelerated program of grade separation.

Best wishes
Robert

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
RAIL Back On Track http://backontrack.org

[somebody]

"rub out" was the headline?!

[ozbob]

The RACQ would hardly be expected to support a call for licence sanctions for breeches.

Government doesn't grasp the seriousness of the situation.  They possibly could be held liable for not doing enough.

[#Metro]

The RACQ would hardly be expected to support a call for licence sanctions for breeches.

Government doesn't grasp the seriousness of the situation.  They possibly could be held liable for not doing enough.

Pfft. Toothless minister continuing previous administration's inertia. Can you believe what they are even writing? Outrageous.

"We need a bit of a campaign from the government around rail crossings, rather than going straight to the penalty," he said.

There is already a campaign. Clearly not working!

"Maybe it's a case of raising the awareness as well."

How much more frickn' awareness do you need with BOOM GATES PHYSICALLY BLOCKING THE CROSSING, massive signs, audible loud beeping, giant red flashing lights. Goodness me, if you're not aware of that, you shouldn't be on the road!

[ozbob]

Exactly.  Time to get the gloves off and disqualify.  I bet that would lead to a marked reduction in the incident numbers.

[Matt]

I think just install Red Light Cameras to the worst crossings with a $2000 fine attached, if you cannot afford to pay the fine immediately, forfeit of licence for 3 months, maybe then they can catch the train to work.

[Gazza]

Just heard on the news, govt will double fines to $8800 for level crossing strikes! 
Great outcome from this past week!

[Stillwater]

Made public by Channel 7 News.  Official announcement tomorrow (Sunday).

[Golliwog]

Just heard on the news, govt will double fines to $8800 for level crossing strikes! 
Great outcome from this past week!

Good to hear! I think a 3 month license suspension wouldn't go astray either. The disruption these boom gate incidents can cause is massive!

[Fares_Fair]

Just heard on the news, govt will double fines to $8800 for level crossing strikes! 
Great outcome from this past week!

I thought that the current penalty was a $300 fine and the loss of 3 demerit points.

Co-incidently, I had an interview with local ABC radio Coast FM early Friday morning with Bruce Atkinson, after the crane truck incident at Bilsen Road, Sunshine, and called on the Government to increase the fines as the current penalties were clearly not a deterrent, with a level crossing incident almost weekly across the network. I said the current penalty of a $300 fine and the loss of points wasn't working...

I too assume it has been under consideration for some time.

Incidently on Thursday, I left work at 4:55pm and arrived home at 9:40pm. It was a marathon journey.

This is good news, hopeful it will have a positive change for the Queensland rail network.

[ozbob]

From the Sunday Mail click here!

Rail hoons face big fines for crashing into boom gates

Rail hoons face big fines for crashing into boom gates

    by: Rose Brennan
    From: The Sunday Mail (Qld)
    October 14, 2012 12:00AM

RECKLESS drivers who crash through boom gates could be slapped with an $8800 fine under new penalties announced by the State Government.

But Robert Dow, of commuter advocacy group Rail Back on Track, said the Government had not gone far enough in the fight against dangerous drivers.

Mr Dow said he wanted motorists to have their licences automatically disqualified for 12 months if they damaged rail infrastructure.

Minister for Transport Scott Emerson said the maximum penalty was double the current amount. The new fines are due to be introduced next month.

"I'm fed up with careless drivers who are causing havoc for thousands of public transport commuters because they can't be bothered to obey the signs and signals," Mr Emerson said, adding that wayward drivers could lose their licences if they were charged for damaging rail fixtures such as boom gates, wires and bridges.

Mr Dow said Queensland Rail and the State Government needed to beef up their education campaigns to target the perpetrators of the damage, such as truck drivers, rather than train commuters.

"They're preaching to the converted at the moment," he said. "They need to get a bit more aggressive with their education campaigns.

"The situation (with boom gate collisions) is getting intolerable and it's leading to constant rail delays.

"It not only stops the trains but the roads as well."

The new penalty will be in addition to compensation paid by drivers to Queensland Rail to cover repair bills.

The Sunday Mail revealed on September 9 that Queensland Rail had raked in more than $225,000 from drivers who had crashed into level crossings since July 2010. One motorist had to pay more than $18,000.

Almost 180,000 public transport commuters have been stranded this year after damage closed rail crossings.

"There will be some satisfaction for commuters knowing the Government is increasing penalties but we still think more needs to be done," Mr Dow said.

So far this month, six boom gates have been hit and overhead wires have been damaged four times.

[ozbob]

Yes that was the minimum I think FF.  The maximum is a different thing. Will need to look at the regulations closely when changed.

I think if a ticket is written out it is a few hundred dollars and the points.  Some will go through a court process and this is when the higher fines may be applied.

None the less, these moves might concentrate a few more minds hopefully.

I also had a chat to the journalist about bridge strikes.  There is of course a lot that can be done to reduce the incidence of those disruptive events as well.

Just heard on the news, govt will double fines to $8800 for level crossing strikes! 
Great outcome from this past week!

I thought that the current penalty was a $300 fine and the loss of 3 demerit points.

Co-incidently, I had an interview with local ABC radio Coast FM early Friday morning with Bruce Atkinson, after the crane truck incident at Bilsen Road, Sunshine, and called on the Government to increase the fines as the current penalties were clearly not a deterrent, with a level crossing incident almost weekly across the network. I said the current penalty of a $300 fine and the loss of points wasn't working...

I too assume it has been under consideration for some time.

Incidently on Thursday, I left work at 4:55pm and arrived home at 9:40pm. It was a marathon journey.

This is good news, hopeful it will have a positive change for the Queensland rail network.

[ozbob]

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14th October 2012

Re: Gosh, didn't see it ... I don't fit! You don't say ... BOOM!

Greetings,

Some news from the Sunday Mail :

Rail hoons face big fines for crashing into boom gates  http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/rail-hoons-face-big-fines-for-crashing-into-boom-gates/story-e6freon6-1226495011488

Being maximum fines does not mean they will be applied absolutely as I understand it.  Still, thank you to Minister Emerson and TMR for at least recognising the seriousness of the problem and acting.

More needs to be done in terms of education - more education targeted directly to motorists and heavy vehicle operators, and of course ongoing grade separation.  Prominent ' red light ' cameras and the consideration for additional road traffic signals at some crossings.

Pedestrians and cyclists also need to obey rules and regulations.

A step in the right direction though, thanks!

Best wishes
Robert

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[ozbob]

http://www.scottemerson.com.au/media-releases/tougher-penalties-at-rail-crossings.html

Tougher penalties at rail crossings

Sunday, 14 October 2012 05:21

The Newman Government today announced the creation of a new offence, doubling the existing penalty for motorists who cause major disruptions to the rail network.

Transport and Main Roads Minister Scott Emerson said careless drivers who ignore rail crossing signals and damage boom gates or bridges would face a maximum penalty of $8,800.

Mr Emerson said as well as double the maximum penalty a guilty motorist would also have to pay for repairs to any damage caused by their actions and could lose their licence because of dangerous or reckless driving.

"I'm fed up with careless drivers who are causing havoc for thousands of public transport commuters and damaging hundreds of thousands of dollars' worth of infrastructure because they can't be bothered to obey the signs and signals," Mr Emerson said.

"In the past twelve months there were 194 boom gate strikes – more than one every two days.

"This year alone almost 180,000 commuters have been stranded getting to or from work when services have been delayed or cancelled because of rail crossing incidents.

"The current penalty of $4,400 is obviously not deterring drivers running the red signals and shutting down large parts of the network, so it will be doubled.

"There are often costs of almost $10,000 to repair damaged equipment and signalling and we will also push for full cost recovery from individuals and companies that cause this damage."

Mr Emerson said the tougher penalties are aimed at reducing rail crossing outages following a spate of incidents this month.

"But even before these latest incidents we had increased awareness of the issue with a hard-hitting Queensland Rail campaign, Crosses. Launched earlier this year it encourages people to obey the signals at rail crossings and not gamble with their lives," he said.

"The Newman Government is also investing $1 million to introduce new technology to make rail crossings safer.

"We're trialling radio break-in systems that warn vehicles to stop as they approach level crossings, and solar powered lighting/signage systems that would not be affected by electricity outages.

"We will also deliver this term, in partnership with the Brisbane City Council, road overpasses at Telegraph Road Bracken Ridge and Robinson Road Geebung, the two rail crossings identified by the RACQ as the most dangerous in Brisbane.

"These disruptions to our public transport system caused by motorists have to stop."

The new offence will be introduced next month.

BACKGROUND – MONTH OF HELL FOR COMMUTERS

-           Friday, 12 October: vehicle hit the boom gate at a level crossing at Shorncliffe, causing delays for City network customers.

-           Thursday, 11 October: truck driver hit the boom gate at Bilsen Road level crossing at Sunshine, bringing down the overhead wires and causing substantial delays to afternoon and following morning peak services.

-           Wednesday, 10 October: vehicle hit the boom gate at the Station Road level crossing at Bethania, on the Beenleigh/Gold Coast line. The impact resulted in the boom arm coming into contact with the overhead wires, causing delays of up to an hour.

-           Monday, 8 October: vehicle struck a boom gate at the Dawson Parade level crossing on the Ferny Grove line, again causing delays for City network customers.

-           Thursday, 4 October: vehicle hit the boom gate at the Caloundra Road level crossing, just south of Landsborough station. The impact snapped the boom arm in two and caused delays for both City network and long distance travel customers.

-           Thursday, 4 October: overhead wires were tripped at Boundary Road, Coopers Plains, resulting in the boom gates remaining down and disrupting road and rail commuters. We believe overhead wires at the level crossing were struck by an over-sized truck.

-           Tuesday, 2 October: motor vehicle crashed into the boom gates at the Station Road level crossing, Bethania on the Beenleigh/Gold Coast line, and the broken boom gate tripped the overhead power supply for trains.

[aldonius]

The Sunday Mail article asked for commentary via email (or post). You'd think they'd just have a comments thread like everybody else.
Whipped up an email for the sake of it. Possibly jumped the shark a bit by the end.

Is $8800 a fair fine? Accidents happen, certainly.

However, it's not like the level crossing or bridge is absent one day, then magically appears the next (except for new line construction).

Therefore, this is a part of any motorists' journey that can, and should, be planned.

Back to the specific dollar figure. Any crash involves damage - both to the motorist, government (QR) and quite possibly 3rd party property.

If the motorist is at fault in a garden-variety prang, they are liable for the damage caused. The same principle applies here.

Another thing to consider is the time value of money - specifically, the time of potentially thousands of commuters, as seen with the Bilsen Rd incident on 11/10/12. Bus substitution for trains typically adds 30 minutes to an hour of travel time - multiply this over peak hour (and minimum wage) and that's far over the $8800 figure...

As such, if the increased fine's deterrent value prevents more such major incidents , then society may well have a net win.

There is a ratio, however, of a) societal non-cost of incidents prevented to b)  societal cost incidents where the fine is levied. As the fine is sufficiently large to give a family significant strife, and possible adverse effects stem therefrom, this ratio must be decently good. However, given the mass interruptions to thousands of people and destruction of taxpayer property that occurs, I am confident that this ratio will remain favourable.