Level crossings and Grade separation - level crossing removal

[Gazza]

BT buses have cameras on it, both inside and outside so why can't boom gate intersections be monitored in the same way?

The cameras on the bus are smaller, and less liable to damage.

By all means, have monitoring cameras, but do it like at Coopers Plains, where its on a pole by the road, with obvious signage.

You have seen how big a typical traffic camera is, haven't you?

[HappyTrainGuy]

I think it is possible. It just needs to be obvious so that it is a big detterent. These people obviously think they can get away with it and no-one will see them. BT buses have cameras on it, both inside and outside so why can't boom gate intersections be monitored in the same way?

Its possible. But practicle. Not a chance in hell. If a boomgate is struck the camera might need to be removed/replaced which could lead the crossing being offline to road traffic and rail traffic for longer periods. Then it has to by synced and inspected for proper working condition. Possible vandalism when they are lowered. Then comes the weather side such as dust and water etc along with its power source and up keep/maintainence. Shortly followed by the weight issue. Then the kicker... $$$.

All trains have cameras on the fronts and inside too. Nice bit of info aye

[Dean Quick]

Apparently the truck driver involved in the double fatality level crossing tragedy at Trawalla Victoria (2007) has filed a lawsuit against the Vic' gov't and V/line.

How can the driver of a large truck which slammed into the side of a passenger train at a level crossing resulting in 2 people losing their lives then turn around and sue for loss? What about the families of the victims?? Does this mean that every time a driver that disobeys the laws at level crossings and causes injuries/fatalities and damage not only escapes going to gaol but then has the audacity to blame someone else by filing lawsuits thereby imparting responsibility.

Is it just me or has our entire legal/justice system gone completely insane???

[somebody]

Filing /= winning.  Why pre-judge it?

[HappyTrainGuy]

One might assume that their betting on an out of court settlement.

[ozbob]

Minister for Transport and Main Roads
The Honourable Scott Emerson
26/04/2012

Train Crossing Gamble not Worth the Risk

The Queensland Government has warned it is only a matter of time until a pedestrian dies ignoring the protection at level crossings in South East Queensland.

Transport and Main Roads Minister Scott Emerson said he was shocked to see recent footage highlighting the deplorable behaviour which is occurring nearly every day across the rail network.

"Every crossing throughout the city network has boom gates and flashing lights, which are there for the protection of pedestrians," Mr Emerson said.

"The alarming reality is that some pedestrians are not getting the message and are continuing to take on trains whether it's by pushing through the pedestrian gates, or racing a train as the boom gates are lowering.

"I was horrified to see one example, captured by CCTV cameras at Deagon station, when students foolishly risked their lives at the level crossing, resulting in a very near miss.

"These children avoided a collision by seconds, when they pu shed through pedestrian gates and rushed across the tracks in front of a train travelling at approximately 65 km/h."

Queensland Rail CEO Jim Benstead said train drivers and station staff had raised concerns about the number of people not following the rules around train stations.

"These are examples of what Queensland Rail train drivers and guards are seeing more and more often - pedestrians racing across train tracks and playing Russian roulette with their lives," Mr Benstead said.

"We've had enough with pedestrians telling us they know better, they know the timetable and they can predict when it's safe to cross."

In another incident at Wulkuraka, near Ipswich, a young man kicked open the pedestrian gate in an attempt to cross the tracks. Luckily the man and the two pedestrians who followed him were only scared, not killed, avoiding a collision by just seconds.

On-train footage from an incident at Albion where a person ran a cross the tracks in front of a train, shows just how long it takes for a train to stop once the emergency brakes are applied.

In 2011, there were 472 near miss incidents at level crossings predominantly in the south east corner.

[ENDS] 26 April 2012

[petey3801]

The Queensland Government has warned it is only a matter of time until a pedestrian dies ignoring the protection at level crossings in South East Queensland.

Ummm... Yeah. Cause pedestrians have never died crossing tracks in front of trains before... 

In 2011, there were 472 near miss incidents at level crossings predominantly in the south east corner.

That should read "In 2011, there were 472 reported near miss incidents at level crossings predominantly in the south east corner." I can guarantee there were many, many more incidents than that...

[HappyTrainGuy]

What suprises me (Not really to be honest) is that none of the news websites even gave this a mention yet when someone is found chewing on a dolls head that suddenly becomes news worthy.

[ozbob]

From the Queensland Times 28th April 2012 page 10

Death rides the rails

[ozbob]

The Morning Bulletin --> Driver blasted for rail near miss

[colinw]

There's more to this release than just level crossings, but it looks like (hopefully) there might be some action on Robinson Road & Telegraph Road at last.  With the MBRL coming these projects can't come a day too soon.

Ministerial Media Statement -> click here

Premier

The Honourable Campbell Newman

Friday, May 04, 2012

State and BCC working together to deliver for Brisbane

Premier Campbell Newman and Lord Mayor Graham Quirk met this week to start work on a new partnership between the State Government and the Brisbane City Council.

Premier Newman said the meeting was very productive, with an in-principle agreement reached on a number of issues including starting immediately on work to upgrade rail crossings, the hand back of state-run parklands to Council and a resolution on the stalled Howard Smith Wharves redevelopment.

"My Government believes that local councils are best placed to determine what is right for their local communities and unfortunately many of the issues discussed at the meeting were used as a political football by the former State Government," Mr Newman said.

"But we're going to get on with the job and re-empower the Brisbane City Council and local councils right across the state to provide practical and appropriate solutions to local issues."

Lord Mayor Graham Quirk welcomed the new partnership, saying his top priority was to start work on a timeline and budget program to build flyovers at dangerous rail crossings at Robinson Road Geebung and Telegraph Road Bracken Ridge.

"We'll be allocating money in the coming budget to kick start these works to upgrade these dangerous rail crossings," Cr Quirk said.

Cr Quirk said the agreement reached meant that Brisbane City Council could get on with delivering for local residents.

"This is an example of the sort of things that can be achieved when you have a state government that's prepared to work with local government, not against them," Cr Quirk said.

An in-principle agreement was reached on:

·Handing over the management of South Bank, Roma Street Parklands, Roma Street Forum and Emma Millar Place to the Brisbane City Council, with funding to ensure the BCC is not out of pocket;

·The re-activation of the Brisbane City Council's Howard Smith Wharves proposal to build a wonderful parkland and boutique hotel;

·The re-submission of the South Brisbane Riverside Neighbourhood Plan to allow 12 storey buildings to be built between Montague Road and the river;

·The establishment of a Land Use and Transport Planning Working Party made up of representatives from the BCC and State Government to better co-ordinate land use and transport planning between the two levels of government;

·The hand-back of ULDA areas – Carseldine, Woolloongabba, North Shore Hamilton, Bowen Hills to be handed back to the Brisbane City Council with ULDA powers; and

·Work to immediately begin on a timeline and budget program for the upgrade of open level crossings at Robinson Road, Geebung and Telegraph Road, Bracken Ridge.

The Premier said the LNP Government believed that to be most effective and truly accountable to local people, all councils need to have a high level of autonomy and authority, and responsibility to plan, solve problems and manage the growth of local communities.

"The LNP supports the strong role that Queensland's 73 councils play in representing the interests of local people, determining facilities and services, and making local laws to help provide safer and stronger communities, and better places to live," Mr Newman said.

"I look forward to working with all local councils, along with Local Government Minister David Crisafulli, to form a new partnership between state and local government."

[ENDS] 4 May 2012

[#Metro]

·The establishment of a Land Use and Transport Planning Working Party made up of representatives from the BCC and State Government to better co-ordinate land use and transport planning between the two levels of government;

This falls far short. Brisbane Transport must go.

[HappyTrainGuy]

Well, it looks like were going to be getting the Bracken Ridge to Fitzgibbon busway running right beside the railway line. YAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY 

[colinw]

Huh?  :conf

Why would you build a busway to Fitzgibbon when there's a rail line that from 2016 will carry fulltime 4TPH right through the middle of the suburb?  The area already has decent linehaul service, its the feeders that need to be sorted out, not another bl**dy concrete festival!

Put it another way: when are we going to stop wasting gazillions of dollars on "stuff" and instead start spending more modest amounts of money on "services"

SERVICES MUST BE FREQUENT, BOTTOM LINE!

[HappyTrainGuy]

Who knows why they would. I'd rather see them use the road connecting Bracken Ridge-Carseldine and feed the 340 into Bracken Ridge/Bald Hills/Strathpine. I think it was BCC/BT planned it in conjunction with the ULDA. Through the old QUT, under/over the train tracks, through the junk yard then shadowing the railway line to Telegraph Road where it would go under the new rail bridge with a busway stop where the road/level crossing currently is. 

[SurfRail]

Huh?  :conf

Why would you build a busway to Fitzgibbon when there's a rail line that from 2016 will carry fulltime 4TPH right through the middle of the suburb?

I'm willing to reserve judgement on this one for two reasons:

1. I would rather that infill stations not be added anywhere within the existing metropolitan network.  Bald Hills is inconveniently located for bus services to access and the alternative is a new station at Telegraph Road, which will only slow the service down more.  Building this gives you a bee-line straight into Carseldine without having to do lengthy detours.

2. Fitzgibbon is effectively empty space, so this "busway" would not need to be as intensive as the rest of the busway network, and represents a good sense of priorities (ie it could have just been a road).  I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up looking more like the Rockingham 555 route, a T-way or the USC bus link at Sippy Downs than the SEB.

[colinw]

Fine, when you put it that way, but it better not take the space required to quad the line! 

[SurfRail]

Fine, when you put it that way, but it better not take the space required to quad the line! 

Agreed!

In a sensible world, it might even be done at the same time...

[HappyTrainGuy]

For me its still pointless. There doesn't have to be a train station there. All it needs are proper frequent feeder routes. Something that currently doesn't really exist on the northside... however that does exist for hourly/worse routes Run something along Telegraph Road-Carselgrove Ave.-Carseldine station where people actually live/have access, run a route Telegraph Road-Lacey Road-Carseldine station to take advantage of the new estates there. Even better make that the Carseldine rail bus. It might already be an empty space but its pretty much a express Telegraph road to Carseldine station bus in an area that doesn't have the high route numbers to make it a high frequency corridor.

[ozbob]

Inbound Westlander involved in level crossing crash with car in Toowoomba this morning.  No passenger injuries.

[ozbob]

Inbound Westlander involved in level crossing crash with car in Toowoomba this morning.  No passenger injuries.

http://www.thechronicle.com.au/story/2012/06/16/train-and-car-collide-toowoomba/

[somebody]

24 passengers!  Ouch.

[ozbob]

From the Couriermail click here!

Brisbane's deadly crossings to get rail overpasses

Brisbane's deadly crossings to get rail overpasses

    by: Sarah Vogler
    From: The Courier-Mail
    June 19, 2012 12:00AM

TWO of Brisbane's most notorious rail crossings will be upgraded within three years after finally attracting the funding needed to fix them.

Brisbane Lord Mayor Graham Quirk said work on overpasses at the Robinson Rd, Geebung, and Telegraph Rd, Bracken Ridge rail crossings would begin within months, with both to be completed by the end of 2014 at a total cost of $281 million.

Brisbane City Council will chip in half of the total bill - starting with a $23.5 million allocation in the 2012-13 Budget to be handed down tomorrow - with the State Government to pay the rest.

Residents have been waiting more than six years for the upgrades after feasibility studies were completed in 2005.

Cr Quirk said the former State Government had pushed the projects out to 2020, with council unable to fully fund the upgrades. The crossings have been the scene of more than 60 near-misses between cars, pedestrians and trains in just three years, with three deaths at Geebung alone since 1992.

Traffic data also showed motorists were forced to wait up to 18 minutes during the morning and afternoon peak periods at Bracken Ridge, and up to 15 minutes at the Geebung crossing. Those waits were set to double by 2016, when TransLink predicts train traffic on those lines will jump by 80 per cent.

About 31 private properties and eight industrial properties would be resumed to make way for the Robinson Rd upgrade, to cost about $199 million. It would involve the construction of an overpass of the rail line dividing Robinson Rd West and Robinson Rd East.

There have been two partial acquisitions to complete the $82 million Telegraph Rd upgrade, which will include a four-lane overpass which would extend from an upgraded intersection at Lacey and Linkfield roads to Telegraph Rd on the northern side of the line.

"(These two) rail crossings have been constantly in the news - and rightly so - both from a safety point of view and a road-congestion aspect," Cr Quirk said.

[ozbob]

From the Brisbanetimes click here!

Level crossing upgrades finally get green light

Level crossing upgrades finally get green light
June 19, 2012 - 3:00AM

Overpasses will finally be built over two controversial open level rail crossings on Brisbane's northside in the next 12 months, lord mayor Graham Quirk confirmed last night.

Cr Quirk last night said the $281 million needed for projects at Bracken Ridge and Geebung will feature in tomorrow's Brisbane City Council budget.

The news came as the council's opposition leader, Milton Dick, warned rates would increase close to 5 per cent and charges and fines would rise.

There have been up to 40 near misses at each of the rail crossings at Robinson Road, Geebung, and Telegraph Road, Bracken Ridge over the past three years.

A man was killed at the Geebung rail crossing in July last year.

Commuters have waited for five years for work to start at the rail crossings, because the previous Labor state government refused to commit to either project.

Premier Campbell Newman, when he was Brisbane's lord mayor, offered to pay 50 per cent of the cost for the rail crossings.

After winning the state election, Mr Newman repeated his promise to share the funding.

Cr Quirk said the council's civic cabinet had on Monday looked through the latest plans for the two overpasses and approved the projects.

"Now the new state government has agreed to a 50/50 funding agreement, these critical projects can proceed after years of council waiting for state support to progress with these important works," he said.

The work will start in this financial year and be finished by 2014.

At Geebung, $199 million will be spent to build an overpass over the rail line from Robinson Road West to Robinson Road East.

At Bracken Ridge, $82 million will see a new four-lane overpass extend from an upgraded intersection at Lacey and Linkfield roads to meet with Telegraph Road over the rail line.

Cr Quirk said the council had been frustrated nothing had progressed, despite plans being prepared.

"Consultation with the local community has been ongoing since 2007, with a number of designs for Robinson Road presented to the community back in 2008," he said.

"So it's a welcome announcement that these works will now get underway."

The rail crossing at Robinson Road is a well-known traffic bottleneck with traffic delayed for up to 15 minutes during peak hours.

Transport Minister Scott Emerson said the new Moreton Bay Rail Link, currently under construction, would add to the number of trains using the crossings in the future.

"Train timetable changes in June last year have caused additional delays for car commuters and with the future impacts of Moreton Bay Rail these level crossings will become unsafe and unworkable during peak," he said.

"At Telegraph Road, there have been numerous boomgate strikes causing delays to train passengers and 22 near misses with cars and trains over the past three years.

"At Geebung there was a fatality last year and 40 near misses involving pedestrians and trains over the past three years."

Labor's council team also promised the rail crossings went ahead at the last council election.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/level-crossing-upgrades-finally-get-green-light-20120618-20jx1.html

[ozbob]

Sent to all outlets:

19th June 2012

Two of  Brisbane's 54 level crossings to be grade separated

Greetings,

Some welcome news.  Two of Brisbane's 54 level crossings are to be grade separated.  Crossings at Robinson Road Geebung and Telegraph Road Bald Hills.

See -->  http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=2391.msg101303#msg101303

There are 172 level crossings in Melbourne and only 8 in Sydney.  Sydney has been a lot smarter for a lot longer than either Melbourne or Brisbane.

Some of the crossings in Melbourne, for example, Murrumbeena Road, Murrumbeena can be closed to road traffic for 45 minutes or longer in the peak.  Unless we continue to grade separate such scenarios could occur in Brisbane.

It is welcome news that some progress is now to be made with level crossings, but still more to be done.  Level crossing grade separation needs to be looked at from the perspective of the transport network.  Prolonged closures at level crossings also effect buses (and trams in Melbourne). Getting rid of them improves rail network reliability as well, as well as reduction in the safety risks.

Motorists, cyclists and pedestrians need to follow the road rules at level crossings.  Breaches at level crossings need to be treated seriously.

Best wishes
Robert

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
RAIL Back On Track http://backontrack.org

[ozbob]

What level crossings should be next do you reckon?

Say Coorparoo, Wacol, Alderley, Keperra, Runcorn ...

[ozbob]

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Sad story but it reiterates the fact you shouldn't gamble with your life around railway tracks - http://ow.ly/bF8CJ

[#Metro]

Can we have a list of all 54 crossings?

I'd say anything that has the potential to get in the way of high frequency should be looked at for separation. I'm thinking Ferny Grove Line here because with 15 minute frequency in both directions, that's 8 trains crossing per hour, that's a boom gate down every 7.5 minutes ALL DAY LONG. In peak hour it will be even worse.

Coorparoo needs to go as well, not as high a priority as FG line as the frequency is not there yet, but any implementation of the Cleveland solution WILL require separation at all crossings due to the extreme frequency effectively closing them.

[ozbob]

Can we have a list of all 54 crossings?

I'd say anything that has the potential to get in the way of high frequency should be looked at for separation. I'm thinking Ferny Grove Line here because with 15 minute frequency in both directions, that's 8 trains crossing per hour, that's a boom gate down every 7.5 minutes ALL DAY LONG. In peak hour it will be even worse.

Coorparoo needs to go as well, not as high a priority as FG line as the frequency is not there yet, but any implementation of the Cleveland solution WILL require separation at all crossings due to the extreme frequency effectively closing them.

From http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=6859.0

Here is a list of level crossings in the suburban area off the top of my head:

Ipswich Line
Sherwood
Wacol
Ebbw Vale

Rosewood Line
Wulkuraka (Pedestrian Gates only)
Karrabin
Between Karrabin and Walloon (or is it between Walloon and Thagoona...?)
One either side of Walloon plus Pedestrian Gates
Thagoona
Rosewood

Beenleigh Line
Beaudesert Road, Salisbury
Coopers Plains
Sunnybank
Runcorn
Between Runcorn and Fruitgrove
Just after Fruitgrove
Kuraby
Between Trinder Park and Woodridge
Bethania
Between Edens Landing and Holmview
Holmview

Cleveland Line
Two between Coorparoo and Norman Park
Cannon Hill
Murrarie
Lindum
Wynnum North
Between Wynnum North and Wynnum
Wynnum Central
Lota (Pedestrian Gates only)

Ferny Grove Line
Le Geyt Street before Windsor (Pedestrian Gates only)
Windsor (Pedestrian Gates only)
Newmarket
Alderly
Mitchelton x4 (2 either side) + Pedestrian Gates on FYG end
Grovely
Keperra (Pedestrian Gates only)
Ferny Grove x2

Caboolture Line
Northgate
Sunshine
Geebung
Carseldine
Telegraph Rd (Between Carseldine and Bald Hills)
Strathpine
Lawnton
Narangba
Burpengary
Morayfield

Shorncliffe Line
Banyo
Nudgee (Pedestrian Gates only)
Deagon
Sandgate x2 (one either side)
Shorncliffe

Doomben
Hendra
Doomben


I don't know how many are north of Caboolture as I do not know that line, but that is a pretty comprehensive list for south of Caboolture (minus Staff/Traincrew access pathways at Beenleigh and Ipswich)

That gives a total amount of Level Crossings (south of Cab) as: 54x Level Crossings, 8x Stand Alone Pedestrian Gates.

If there are any I have forgotten, let me know and i'll add them to the list.


Edit: Fixed up formatting

[colinw]

What level crossings should be next do you reckon?

Say Coorparoo, Wacol, Alderley, Keperra, Runcorn ...

My top picks (not including the ones just announced)

• Cavendish Road, Coorparoo (Cleveland Line & Port of Brisbane freight line)
• Boundary Road, Coopers Plains (Beenleigh/Gold Coast line)
• Warrigal Road, Runcorn (Beenleigh / Gold Coast line)
• South Pine Road, Alderley (Ferny Grove line)
• Dawson Pde, Keperra (Ferny Grove line)
• Wacol Station Road, Wacol (Ipswich/Rosewood Line)
• Stanley St East, Coorparoo (Cleveland Line & Port of Brisbane freight line)
• Beenleigh Road, Kuraby (Beenleigh/Gold Coast Line)
• Todd's Road, Lawnton (Caboolture/Kippa-Ring/Nambour/Gympie Line)
• Pumicestone Road, Caboolture (Nambour/Gympie Line)

Are there any that people would consider for outright closure?

[Jonno]

The resumptions and urban blight overpasses create is not a good outcome.  There must be better ways to grade separate.  Lower the rail line?  All overpasses in Brisbane further reduce densities usually around stations!

[Fares_Fair]

Can we have a list of all 54 crossings?

I'd say anything that has the potential to get in the way of high frequency should be looked at for separation. I'm thinking Ferny Grove Line here because with 15 minute frequency in both directions, that's 8 trains crossing per hour, that's a boom gate down every 7.5 minutes ALL DAY LONG. In peak hour it will be even worse.

Coorparoo needs to go as well, not as high a priority as FG line as the frequency is not there yet, but any implementation of the Cleveland solution WILL require separation at all crossings due to the extreme frequency effectively closing them.

From http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=6859.0

Here is a list of level crossings in the suburban area off the top of my head:

Ipswich Line
Sherwood
Wacol
Ebbw Vale

Rosewood Line
Wulkuraka (Pedestrian Gates only)
Karrabin
Between Karrabin and Walloon (or is it between Walloon and Thagoona...?)
One either side of Walloon plus Pedestrian Gates
Thagoona
Rosewood

Beenleigh Line
Beaudesert Road, Salisbury
Coopers Plains
Sunnybank
Runcorn
Between Runcorn and Fruitgrove
Just after Fruitgrove
Kuraby
Between Trinder Park and Woodridge
Bethania
Between Edens Landing and Holmview
Holmview

Cleveland Line
Two between Coorparoo and Norman Park
Cannon Hill
Murrarie
Lindum
Wynnum North
Between Wynnum North and Wynnum
Wynnum Central
Lota (Pedestrian Gates only)

Ferny Grove Line
Le Geyt Street before Windsor (Pedestrian Gates only)
Windsor (Pedestrian Gates only)
Newmarket
Alderly
Mitchelton x4 (2 either side) + Pedestrian Gates on FYG end
Grovely
Keperra (Pedestrian Gates only)
Ferny Grove x2

Caboolture Line
Northgate
Sunshine
Geebung
Carseldine
Telegraph Rd (Between Carseldine and Bald Hills)
Strathpine
Lawnton
Narangba
Burpengary
Morayfield

Shorncliffe Line
Banyo
Nudgee (Pedestrian Gates only)
Deagon
Sandgate x2 (one either side)
Shorncliffe

Doomben
Hendra
Doomben


I don't know how many are north of Caboolture as I do not know that line, but that is a pretty comprehensive list for south of Caboolture (minus Staff/Traincrew access pathways at Beenleigh and Ipswich)

That gives a total amount of Level Crossings (south of Cab) as: 54x Level Crossings, 8x Stand Alone Pedestrian Gates.

If there are any I have forgotten, let me know and i'll add them to the list.


Edit: Fixed up formatting

It would be interesting if these could be rated according to the number of incidents that occur, i.e. where the most common problem crossings are located and prioritise from that basis.
Traffic factors also to be considered of course.

[colinw]

The resumptions and urban blight overpasses create is not a good outcome.  There must be better ways to grade separate.  Lower the rail line?  All overpasses in Brisbane further reduce densities usually around stations!

That is true, which is why I am not in favour of overpasses for all of them, and even favour closure of certain crossings.

Ones I consider could possibly be closed outright include Sherwood Road, Sherwood &  Bonemill Rd, Runcorn There's probably others.

[#Metro]

The resumptions and urban blight overpasses create is not a good outcome.  There must be better ways to grade separate.  Lower the rail line?  All overpasses in Brisbane further reduce densities usually around stations!

How about make the overpass look nice. Lutwyche busway station is directly underneath an overpass but they painted the overpass ceiling white and it actually boxes the station in quite nicely as well as acting as a de-facto roof! Other overpass treatments include wood panelling and 'lace' dressing

[SurfRail]

My top 10 picks (in no particular order) would be:

•   Warrigal Rd (Fruitgrove)
•   Boundary Rd (Coopers Plains)
•   Cavendish Rd and Stanley St (Coorparoo) – as a single project
•   Barrack Road Cannon Hill and Queensport Road Murrarie (as part of a project to close Cannon Hill and Murrarie Stations and amalgamate them into a new Cannon Hill station on Creek Road)
•   South Pine Rd (Alderley)
•   Samford Rd (Ferny Grove)
•   Beams Rd (Carseldine)
•   The one at Strathpine
•   The one at Kuraby
•   The 2 at Lytton on the Port line

Beaudesert Rd at Salisbury could be closed permanently (bridge already there...) – this was planned as part of CRR implementation anyway.  If Sherwood cannot be grade-sepped it should be closed as well.

I would like to see the Sunnybank one closed for safety reasons, but I don't think that will fly.  Just have to wait for the realignment of the line (tunnel from Runcorn to Coopers Plains via Centro Pinelands )

[#Metro]

Which ones are the ones most often smashed into boomgates. You could cut train downtime a lot if there was a pattern.

[HappyTrainGuy]

Forgot Cabooltures LX

Sandy Creek Road LX (Fishermans Island Branch). Kingsford Smith Drive LX (Doomben/Hamilton Cold Stores). Woombye Station pedestrian gates (Nambour Line), Palmwoods Station pedestrian gates/LX for the siding at the station - signs (Nambour Line), Bray Road LX/Pedestrian gates - Mooloolah (Nambour Line), Gympie Street LX - North of Landsborough (Nambour Line), Caloundra Street LX/pedestrian gates (Nambour Line), Beewah Station pedestrian gates - mtce siding (Nambour Line), Barrs Road LX (Nambour Line) and there are 2 property access roads - One has flashing lights and the other has signs (Nambour Line).

[SurfRail]

^ The ones I have picked are a fair blend of notoriety for accidents, main roads and crossings that could probably be done without too much resumption or heavy engineering.

Plenty of crossings are bad for persistent accidents but there is not really a practical way to fix them without enormous spending for limited traffic benefit (eg Bethania) compared to the others.

[Golliwog]

What level crossings should be next do you reckon?

Say Coorparoo, Wacol, Alderley, Keperra, Runcorn ...

My top picks (not including the ones just announced)

• Cavendish Road, Coorparoo (Cleveland Line & Port of Brisbane freight line)
• Boundary Road, Coopers Plains (Beenleigh/Gold Coast line)
• Warrigal Road, Runcorn (Beenleigh / Gold Coast line)
• South Pine Road, Alderley (Ferny Grove line)
• Dawson Pde, Keperra (Ferny Grove line)
• Wacol Station Road, Wacol (Ipswich/Rosewood Line)
• Stanley St East, Coorparoo (Cleveland Line & Port of Brisbane freight line)
• Beenleigh Road, Kuraby (Beenleigh/Gold Coast Line)
• Todd's Road, Lawnton (Caboolture/Kippa-Ring/Nambour/Gympie Line)
• Pumicestone Road, Caboolture (Nambour/Gympie Line)

Are there any that people would consider for outright closure?

Arbor St at Ferny Grove! Not sure how the plans are going but they seem to want to connect Archdale to Samford Rd so they can remove this one. Even if they don't people can still drive through the car park (though in the old car park there were a number of speed bumps along the through route to discourage this) to get from Conavalla to Samford Rd. I can see some locals being opposed though if it's removed without Archdale going through.

[ozbob]

Brisbanetimes --> Resumptions planned for northside overpasses