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Major Centre Connector Loop

Started by Jon Bryant, April 10, 2009, 15:01:04 PM

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Jon Bryant

As our existing rail system requires a trip through the CBD and transport studies show people are move around the CBD, I have always thought a loop line that connected Garden City, Carindale, Cannon Hill, Airport Precinct, Toombul, Chermside, Brookside, Indooropilly and then back to Garden City would be a great start to fixing the transport problems of the City.

Yes it will cost billions but then so is the planned tunnels and they will not fix the problem whilst destroying the inner city (PS has anyone had the unfortunate oppourtunity to drive past the old Kendron Hotel.  We should hold our heads in shame to the damage done to the commuity there).

I would also liek to see the impact this loop line would have on the Inner City Rail Capavity study.  Truth be told we probably need both.

stephenk

As most public transport journeys are to Brisbane's CBD, then an outer loop cannot be financially justified.

A new cross-city railway line as outlined in the inner city rail capacity study is what Brisbane needs.
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Jon Bryant

Whilst most public transport journeys are to the CBD, this is becasue this where the only efficient and effective services are.  Transport studies show that 80% of trips are around the city or local.  I think a study understanding the impact of an outer loop rail line would be would return some interesting results.

Derwan

The current long-term strategy for the QLD Government is to decentralise Government services.  Unless we have a public transport system that doesn't focus on getting people in and out of the city, tens of thousands of public servants will be forced onto the roads to get to work.

We need to explore cross-suburb and cross-city services that do not rely on people going through or changing services in the city, which defeats the purpose of decentralisation.
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mufreight

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Derwan a reasonable test of your idea would be an hourly service between Clevland and Ipswich with a co-ordinated bus operating from Darra to Chermside via Brookfield and Enoggera, but I would not like your chances as Translink has refused to support an already operating bus service between Ipswich and Indoorpilly that operates via Tivoli, Karalee and Kenmore.
This service is carrying a reasonable loading, more in fact than other cross country services operated for Translink such as those into Springfield (Orion) from Carole Park. One must on this basis question the intent of Translink as the operating authority with relation to providing commuter services on a community amenity basis.

haakon

Quote from: mufreight on April 21, 2009, 09:40:55 AM
Derwan a reasonable test of you idea would be an hourly service between Clevland and Ipswich.

I would be all over that route! My current commute is Bundamba station to Buranda station.

Sunbus610

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Quote from: Jon B on April 10, 2009, 15:01:04 PM
I have always thought a loop line that connected Garden City, Carindale, Cannon Hill, Airport Precinct, Toombul, Chermside, Brookside, Indooropilly and then back to Garden City would be a great start to fixing the transport problems of the City.
But we already have a similar transport route operating like this however it's by bus instead of train, I'm referring to the Great Circle Line service route 598/599. My main long term grudge with this services current timetable is that it doesn't operate on Sundays. It would be great to see 1/2 hour services on Saturday and 1 hour services on Sunday on the GCL.
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Markus

To Jon B,
Im curious as to who would be served by such a "loop".
i.e. What destinations, rather than suburbs, would be served.

To gather the greatest quantity of passengers I was of the understanding that rail be built to just past "a destination". i.e. A focal point. C.B.D., airport, stadium, in fact any point that would in itself generate a trip. I may have misunderstood your point, pardon if i did. IF you referred to a "cross regional" line, then Im with you, so long as its AFTER the Merivale Br. choke point is addressed to completion.


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