On the Buses

[techblitz]

the following noted @ buranda 5.30ish today

p119 80% full
p129 100% full + standees
p176 100% full
p205 20% full
p137 30% full

also 118 full + standees + full 139
and full 251,275,265 <<<< all picked up pax at buranda


yesterday @ 5pmish top of adelaide st

p142 90% full
p119 70% full
p137 30%
valley 430ish noticed a route 305 full + lots of standees!

all in all im quite impressed with the 118 (i like to call it the forest lake bullet:) + 142 browns plain bullet + p546 via greenbank rsl park & ride
All perform well with consistent loads due to these routes utilising the freeways. Maybe time to get some bullet services for other areas where possible.

[longboi]

Standees on P88 everyday, both directions. Nothing new.

Not when I've used it.  Perhaps Milton workers help it - I didn't use it in that direction.

I still think the Milton connection is better provided by more trains.

I see it every day in the course of my duties. Standees are a regular occurrence.

[somebody]

At Buranda the other day, a P179 came in with a 180 behind it.  A couple of people ignored the P179 and boarded the 180.

I reckon the Sydney 1xx = Exx, 3nn = Xnn, Nnn = Lnn system is better.

[cartoonbirdhaus]

At Buranda the other day, a P179 came in with a 180 behind it.  A couple of people ignored the P179 and boarded the 180. I reckon the Sydney 1xx = Exx, 3nn = Xnn, Nnn = Lnn system is better.

The old numbering system* would've allowed the same legibility, for instance 5xx (full-time limited-stops) vs 2xx (Rocket, i.e. peak-hour express). A bit late now, though.

*Pre-12 April 1999

[Gazza]

At Buranda the other day, a P179 came in with a 180 behind it.  A couple of people ignored the P179 and boarded the 180.

The nerve of some people! Wanting to go to TAFE at South Bank, or work at Mater Hill!!!!

They should have taken the P179, and walked back across the river!

[somebody]

At Buranda the other day, a P179 came in with a 180 behind it.  A couple of people ignored the P179 and boarded the 180.

The nerve of some people! Wanting to go to TAFE at South Bank, or work at Mater Hill!!!!

They should have taken the P179, and walked back across the river!

Heading outbound.  I would have thought that was self evident.

[Gazza]

Heading outbound.  I would have thought that was self evident.

No, its not, because Buranda has 2 platforms.

[SurfRail]

They are the same route from Buranda onwards.  People go with the legible, easy to remember route.  One more reason why we should abolish as many rockets and route variations as possible.

[Gazza]

+1...For the uninitiated, the P179 might well skip some random stop or do a random routing they weren't expecting, hence using the 'safer' 180.

Obviously the two are the same route south of Buranda, but it demonstrates the issues with heaps of variants.

[#Metro]

The nerve of some people! Wanting to go to TAFE at South Bank, or work at Mater Hill!!!!

They should have taken the P179, and walked back across the river!

This is one reason why I think there should be a dedicated full time Captain Cook Bridge route - the combined (160 + P88? + 555) = 555 Queen Street Bus Station.

It is also why I think many rockets should be boiled down to a simpler, fewer set. The number of variations (particularly in Sunnybank and also Centenary is MIND BOGGLING).

[somebody]

Heading outbound.  I would have thought that was self evident.

No, its not, because Buranda has 2 platforms.

So you just assumed that I am referring to the inbound platform, because it would make less sense.

You really are a very amusing poster, most of the time.

[Gazza]

So you just assumed that I am referring to the inbound platform, because it would make less sense.

No, I just thought you were talking inbound because you'd probably expect someone (With good network knowledge) to pick the P179, if CBD bound, because it's faster across the CCB.
I thought your post was making fun of the people picking the slower 180 to get to the CBD...

I looked at the map before replying and it didn't occur to me you were talking about the 180 versus P179 southbound, because neither route is really better than the other, so someone picking one over the other isn't noteworthy.

[somebody]

It is if they let one identical bus go by for another.

[Mr X]

I think his point was that people ran for the 180 even though the P179 goes he same route as they might think the 179 does something totally whack further along the route.

edit: simon beat me to the punch

[SurfRail]

People aren't all autistic cardcounters who remember every single bus route.  Easier to remember a single route number all day, which goes from the same place all day, and follows the same route all day.  They might be more inclined to learn more of the network and use it for something other than the office 9-5 then.

Very few people in the general population have our kind of interest or knowledge.  The less hassle, the better.

[Gazza]

It is if they let one identical bus go by for another.

How long was the time between each? Was the P179 more crowded, or an old bus? Were the people getting on the 180 needing paper tickets?

[Arnz]

People aren't all autistic cardcounters who remember every single bus route.  Easier to remember a single route number all day, which goes from the same place all day, and follows the same route all day.  They might be more inclined to learn more of the network and use it for something other than the office 9-5 then.

Very few people in the general population have our kind of interest or knowledge.  The less hassle, the better.

+1.  Best keeping the bus routes across most regions to a KISS system.

[Gazza]

People aren't all autistic cardcounters who remember every single bus route.

That said, there are a fair few aspies on SSC transport forum. Comes with the territory.

[somebody]

Were the people getting on the 180 needing paper tickets?

No idea.  An interesting possibility.

[SurfRail]

People aren't all autistic cardcounters who remember every single bus route.

That said, there are a fair few aspies on SSC transport forum. Comes with the territory.

I gave up on that place - too vile for me.

My comments above should of course be taken with a grain of salt given that I DO know where everything goes, but in my case it isn't (as far as I can tell) Asperger's or some kind of autism spectrum issue - just long study and time spent travelling all over the south-east.  There would be very few like me, even working at TransLink.

[Gazza]

People aren't all autistic cardcounters who remember every single bus route.

That said, there are a fair few aspies on SSC transport forum. Comes with the territory.

I gave up on that place - too vile for me.

I stay around for EcoRat/NoShowWithoutPunch e's posts.

[SurfRail]

^ I've always found Riccardo annoying, even though he is usually right.

[somebody]

^ I've always found Riccardo annoying, even though he is usually right.

Ha ha.

I think I know what you mean.

[SurfRail]

New format timetables and network map for Surfside NSW:

http://www.surfside.com.au/sit_bus_services_nsw_timetables.htm

Leaves the quality of TransLink's work north of the border for dead.

[ozbob]

Rail Buses at Corinda, track closure Corinda <-> Roma St

Interesting to see Red and White buses on the Corinda - Richlands bus shuttles (Darra <-> Richlands track closure).

Thompsons doing the heavy lifting ..





Photographs R Dow 26th August 2012

[Golliwog]

How come the Darra-Richlands closure isn't really mentioned in the notice? They only talk about Roma St-Corinda, Y'pilly and Murarrie. Are they actually doing work out at Richlands?

[ozbob]

How come the Darra-Richlands closure isn't really mentioned in the notice? They only talk about Roma St-Corinda, Y'pilly and Murarrie. Are they actually doing work out at Richlands?

This is the only real mention, not sure if work being done between Darra and Richlands, it is probably an overkill to run trains between Corinda and Richlands during a closure such as this.

http://jp.translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/details/1341454991

... Bus replacement services

Richlands line

    No trains will operate between Richlands and Darra  - buses will operate between Richlands and city.
    Train services will still operate between Darra and Corinda.

When I called in at Corinda, no TL or QR staff adjacent, only some Thompsons Bus staff.

Folks have to work it out .. lol

Saw some TOs heading up the ramp at Corinda Rail, they like to work the rail legs of closures ...

[HappyTrainGuy]

Pitty Thomspons can't put those buses to good use in the Strathpine, Warner, Bray Park, Lawnton and Petrie areas.

[Mozz]

How come the Darra-Richlands closure isn't really mentioned in the notice? They only talk about Roma St-Corinda, Y'pilly and Murarrie. Are they actually doing work out at Richlands?

Yep caught me out last night - checked the journey planner earlier in the afternoon planning to catch the 6.55pm from Oxley arrived 10minutes early at 6.45pm only to have a 25 minute wait on the platform, damn me getting used to a 15 minute off peak frequency. I was going to a party at carindale, so it was a bit of a trek there and back with the closure thrown in.

[somebody]

And Translink think it's good enough, even world beating, as is.

[ozbob]

And Translink think it's good enough, even world beating, as is.

Indeed, information is vague and not explicit.   Another poor effort.

[kazzac]

New format timetables and network map for Surfside NSW:

http://www.surfside.com.au/sit_bus_services_nsw_timetables.htm

Leaves the quality of TransLink's work north of the border for dead.

I agree ,definetly better! my parents live within that area,Tweed Heads /Banora Point,they are both still able to drive so dont have to rely on PT all the time yet.I think there is only a bus every hour from the stop near their place.

[SurfRail]

^ There were service cuts in early 2009 which basically cut the Tweed network frequency in half in places.  Thank you NSW Treasury, thank you very much.

[Jonno]

However, the routes look like they were drawn by my 2 year old nephew.  They take suburb wondering to completely a new level.

[SurfRail]

However, the routes look like they were drawn by my 2 year old nephew.  They take suburb wondering to completely a new level.

They are actually quite reasonable.  The Tweed is not a nice, linear place.

The only one which is really horrible is the 606, which is probably the least patronised anyway.

[cartoonbirdhaus]

^ Does anyone know why the 605 does that Banora Hills Dr/Pioneer Pde/Johnson St deviation?

[SurfRail]

^ Does anyone know why the 605 does that Banora Hills Dr/Pioneer Pde/Johnson St deviation?

To run closer to Banora Point Primary school is my guess.  Maybe for historical reasons (eg there was a school diversion) and nobody has changed it.

[ozbob]

Buranda  and Boggo Road - some random photographs













Photographs R Dow 29th August 2012

[cartoonbirdhaus]

^ Does anyone know why the 605 does that Banora Hills Dr/Pioneer Pde/Johnson St deviation?

To run closer to Banora Point Primary school is my guess.

'Cos the poor little dears would have to walk 100 metres along Johnson St! 

[HappyTrainGuy]