On the Buses

[somebody]

As it is, it should follow the 200 route between Cribb/Scrub and the Carindale shops roundabout.  No need to make the network even more complicated.

It'd be faster along Winstanley St wouldn't it?  I'm not concerned about this one.

Interesting that there are only going to be two stops between Carindale Interchange and Chatsworth/Eva, which I guess is served by the P208.

That happens quite often on the network with new bus stops.  Residents want a bus route but don't want the bus stops that come with it.  Gotta love Nimbys who want it both ways.

Wouldn't be the same people who complain about both things though, surely.

[STB]

That happens quite often on the network with new bus stops.  Residents want a bus route but don't want the bus stops that come with it.  Gotta love Nimbys who want it both ways.

Wouldn't be the same people who complain about both things though, surely.

Not in my experience.  They complain about not wanting a bus route, then when one is put it, they complain about the bus stops.  Technically though it is council land, not owned by the owners, so there isn't really a reason that the owners of the houses involved can complain, it becomes more of a political issue than a legal issue.

[Mr X]

Anyone remember the big outcry from West End when the CityGlider was introduced..?
People in one of the streets near the terminus didn't like the fact buses used their street to turn around, yet wanted more services, so council had to demolish a house to build a roundabout just to appease the residents of one street. Pathetic.

[STB]

I took a ride out on the buses after uni today.

Ride around as follows:

330 - QUT KG to Chermside (about a 80% seated load - departed QUT KG at 12:58pm arriving Chermside at 1:17pm).
599 - Chermside to Toombul (about half a load)
308 - Toombul to Airport One DFO (about half a load)
590 - Airport One DFO to Garden City (the full run - only a few on board - one getting off and one getting on at Carindale)
169 - Garden City to UQ Lakes (Holy hells bells at the line up for the 109 - this was around 3:30-4pm at the time I was there)
29 - UQ Lakes to W'Gabba (about 20% load)
210 - W'Gabba to Mater Hill
222 - Mater Hill to Stones Corner Busway Stn (about half a load)
222 - Stones Corner Busway Stn to Langlands Park Busway Stn (about 75% load - GPS problems, reader was stuck on Upper Mt Gravatt Busway Stn!)
P217 - Langlands Park Busway Stn to Carindale (2 got off at Langlands Park, I was the only one on board for the rest of the run to Carindale - approx 4:45pm)
270 - Carindale to Capalaba (about 25% load, several got on at Carindale, several already on board, a few got off at Capalaba, the rest stayed on beyond).

Finally on my bus home!

[O_128]

Maybe TL should look at getting these FTR buses for the UQ, 111, and 66 routes,  basically a tram without tracks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTR_(bus)



And Ill ask again, Can TL please look into putting PIDs on buses? If we are going to run our Bus system like a rail or tram system please look at implementing them, Even just for busway stations and white bus stops.

[Golliwog]

169 - Garden City to UQ Lakes (Holy hells bells at the line up for the 109 - this was around 3:30-4pm at the time I was there)

Never seen the line before? Where was it back to?

[Mr X]

I've seen monster queues stretching up, out of the station and up to the top of the path to the UQ union before.

[dwb]

I've seen monster queues stretching up, out of the station and up to the top of the path to the UQ union before.

Dude to the nature of the university and proximity of the stop to the campus, queues are always going to be inevitable, I'd think even with rail mode. Presumably this weren't waiting long, or it was caused by an issue such as a problem on the busway.

Of course I def agree more needs to be done at the unis, but no queue is just not healthy either!

[dwb]

And Ill ask again, Can TL please look into putting PIDs on buses? If we are going to run our Bus system like a rail or tram system please look at implementing them, Even just for busway stations and white bus stops.

Does anyone know if this is part of the plan when realtime is rolled out which should be happening later in the year for total finally on Logan city buses.

I saw pids with next stop info, maps and audio announcements on buses in Seville (a small Spanish town) in 2006!

[Otto]

The new gates have now been placed at the Melbourne St Busway Portal ( not yet operating )..

They look like glass sliding doors which I assume will just slide shut when the portal has the green, then slide open when the portal is clear to cross..

* wonders what happens to the people between the glass doors when they slide shut *

[Golliwog]

They look like automatic doors, which I know can be set to be one way. Not fool proof, but better than nothing. Either that or it looked like there was a decent amount of space provided inside each door for a person to wait if they were locked in.

[O_128]

Can the 29 please have its PID changed as it reads UQ lakes via eastern busway, should be via PA hospital. 209 needs to be changed to via eastern busway not old cleveland road.

[Golliwog]

But the Boggo Rd busway IS the Eastern Busway. But yes, I think 209 should read 'via Eastern Busway'

[WTN]

But the Boggo Rd busway IS the Eastern Busway. But yes, I think 209 should read 'via Eastern Busway'

Yet the new 222 shows 'via Busway'.

[Gazza]

But the Boggo Rd busway IS the Eastern Busway. But yes, I think 209 should read 'via Eastern Busway'

I think its stupid to call Boggo Rd the Eastern Busway...They Branch in two completely opposite directions at separate points.

[somebody]

I think its stupid to call Boggo Rd the Eastern Busway...They Branch in two completely opposite directions at separate points.

+1

But then what should it be called.  Park Rd busway?  UQ busway?  Schonell busway?  I can understand the cringe at calling it Boggo Rd busway.

[O_128]

I think its stupid to call Boggo Rd the Eastern Busway...They Branch in two completely opposite directions at separate points.

+1

But then what should it be called.  Park Rd busway?  UQ busway?  Schonell busway?  I can understand the cringe at calling it Boggo Rd busway.

Just say via PA hospital,

[SurfRail]

I can understand the cringe at calling it Boggo Rd busway.

Should have been this from the start, and Park Road should also have been renamed instead of them floating that silly survey about keeping the name while at the same time they had "Boggo Road" name signage prepared for the busway.

[ozbob]

529 rail bus Bell St Ipswich, outside the railway station.  Travels Ipswich to Toogoolawah (replicating in part the Brisbane Valley Branch)

[I was fortunate to travel to Yarraman on the second last train, had a meal in the dining car heading back to Ipswich (ARHS tour) another lost line ... also memorable because ran out of coal on the way back and they loaded some sleepers on at Toogoolawah to burn .... very spectacular at night the smoke stack!]





Photographs R Dow 12th September 2011

[O_128]

The bus set up at carindale is stupid, the I/B and O/B 200 stops at the same spot so I got on not realising it was outbound  . Build the busway station as the next stage.

[somebody]

The bus set up at carindale is stupid, the I/B and O/B 200 stops at the same spot so I got on not realising it was outbound  . Build the busway station as the next stage.

According to the map, stop A is to the city, and stop B is to Carindale Heights.  However, one would think they could get all the city via O-C Rd routes on the same side regardless of operator.

[O_128]

The bus set up at carindale is stupid, the I/B and O/B 200 stops at the same spot so I got on not realising it was outbound  . Build the busway station as the next stage.

According to the map, stop A is to the city, and stop B is to Carindale Heights.  However, one would think they could get all the city via O-C Rd routes on the same side regardless of operator.

nope everytime I've used it they stop at the same stop, It needs to run like indooroopilly, but thats to hard.

Also any news if westfield will be contributing to the Busway stations at carindale or chermside?

[Mr X]

I don't see why we're not just proposing a metro down this corridor instead of more buses. By 2026 or whenever it will finish, we'll be converting the busways to something else anyway. We can't run on buses forever.

[somebody]

I don't see why we're not just proposing a metro down this corridor instead of more buses. By 2026 or whenever it will finish, we'll be converting the busways to something else anyway. We can't run on buses forever.

I don't believe there are any such plans.  Not saying it can't happen, of course.

[Mr X]

Aren't the busways built to be converted to light rail in the future?

[Arnz]

IIRC the busways are built for conversion to LR in the future, however there is no future plans to convert them of yet.

[O_128]

IIRC the busways are built for conversion to LR in the future, however there is no future plans to convert them of yet.

Might be seeing this come up in the election hopefully. All future busways should be built with the tracks built in so all thats needed are the overheads.

[SurfRail]

The bus set up at carindale is stupid, the I/B and O/B 200 stops at the same spot so I got on not realising it was outbound  . Build the busway station as the next stage.

According to the map, stop A is to the city, and stop B is to Carindale Heights.  However, one would think they could get all the city via O-C Rd routes on the same side regardless of operator.

Nope - it is TransLink policy that private operators must always take the bays and city stop locations that are furthest from where people need to be (eg Garden City 260/262 and LCBS stops, the former Inala 'E' for Westside, Carindale J and Stop 85 Elizabeth St for Veolia etc).

[O_128]

The bus set up at carindale is stupid, the I/B and O/B 200 stops at the same spot so I got on not realising it was outbound  . Build the busway station as the next stage.

According to the map, stop A is to the city, and stop B is to Carindale Heights.  However, one would think they could get all the city via O-C Rd routes on the same side regardless of operator.

Nope - it is TransLink policy that private operators must always take the bays and city stop locations that are furthest from where people need to be (eg Garden City 260/262 and LCBS stops, the former Inala 'E' for Westside, Carindale J and Stop 85 Elizabeth St for Veolia etc).

Is Translink run by idoits?

[somebody]

The bus set up at carindale is stupid, the I/B and O/B 200 stops at the same spot so I got on not realising it was outbound  . Build the busway station as the next stage.

According to the map, stop A is to the city, and stop B is to Carindale Heights.  However, one would think they could get all the city via O-C Rd routes on the same side regardless of operator.

Nope - it is TransLink policy that private operators must always take the bays and city stop locations that are furthest from where people need to be (eg Garden City 260/262 and LCBS stops, the former Inala 'E' for Westside, Carindale J and Stop 85 Elizabeth St for Veolia etc).

Is Translink run by idoits?

That was my first thought as well, but I'm sure that's a little tongue in cheek.  Do BCC own the interchanges?

[longboi]

nope everytime I've used it they stop at the same stop, It needs to run like indooroopilly, but thats to hard.

Very strange as the O/B 200 uses B whenever I've been there. O/B 200 is even listed on the stop specific timetable for B  :conf

[Bulimba30A]

Same here re 200 o/b using stop b, but why combine I/b 206 and o/b 200??  206 has more in common with 204 and are combined on the outbound.

Maybe the reason for splitting 222/217 from 200 is to encourage use away from 200 from Carindale, or is that trying to read some logic into it?  Personally in summer I'd prefer to wait in the shade that stop a provides.

[O_128]

The bus set up at carindale is stupid, the I/B and O/B 200 stops at the same spot so I got on not realising it was outbound  . Build the busway station as the next stage.

According to the map, stop A is to the city, and stop B is to Carindale Heights.  However, one would think they could get all the city via O-C Rd routes on the same side regardless of operator.

Nope - it is TransLink policy that private operators must always take the bays and city stop locations that are furthest from where people need to be (eg Garden City 260/262 and LCBS stops, the former Inala 'E' for Westside, Carindale J and Stop 85 Elizabeth St for Veolia etc).

Is Translink run by idoits?

That was my first thought as well, but I'm sure that's a little tongue in cheek.  Do BCC own the interchanges?

i would assume westfield does

[ozbob]

525 bus at Redbank rail



Photograph R Dow 22nd September 2011

[Mr X]

Translink, looking at a map and picking the closest stop when a stop is closed is not a sensible decision in some cases.

From 8pm Friday 23 September until 5am Monday 26 September, 'Kennedy Street' stop 11 on Vulture Street (near Kennedy Terrace), East Brisbane will be closed due to Energex works on Vulture Street.

Passengers should use 'Linton Street' stop 11, located on Wellington Road (approaching Linton Street).

Closed bus stop:

Kennedy Street - 11, Vulture Street (approaching Blackall Terrace, near Kennedy Terrace)
Alternative bus stop:

Linton Street - 11, Wellington Road (approaching Linton Street)

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/bulletin/1316401699

The stop on Lindon Street isn't even on the 184/185/210/212, it's on the 230/235, so how do you expect those passengers to get off at that stop?   Good luck to anyone who actually wants to get on and goes to the alternative stop, only to find they are on the wrong route!

[Otto]

The 184/185/210/212 services will be detouring via Wellington rd ( stopping at Linton st as required ) then right to Mowbray, right to Elfin then left to Vulture.

[Mr X]

That should be on the release then!

[Arnz]

As reported by Noel and Hornibrook over at ATDB, Buslink Sunshine Coast has recently taken delivery of a low floor Volgren Merc in full TL livery.  A tad surprised that a school-only operator has it's newest delivery painted in full TL colours with Buslink logo.

I wonder if BusLink is interested in bidding against TAG for the Sunshine Coast urban bus contract up for renewal at the end of the year/early 2012?

[Arnz]

Also reported, the remaining few 'high floor' pie-carts at Sunshine Coast Sunbus Marcoola depot are in the process of being moved over the weekend... to join its sister 5526 at Caloundra West depot.  Woo for the high floor antiques running around on various routes on the southern part of the coast, but will no longer be popping up on the Northern (Noosa) parts and may appear less often around the Nambour area.

So if you want to catch one of the remaining pie carts over the next few months, you'll see them on various routes on the Southern Sunshine Coast (between Nambour/Maroochydore and Golden Beach).

[BrizCommuter]

Reports of a 25 minute wait to board a bus at Roma Street towards RCH/RBWH this morning. Multiple full outbound 66 and 3xx buses.